Questions Only

[bluevictim]

And what would that person say?

[thefemalemind]

-Sorry if i'm invading :)
who could say what?

[kathycf]

Not sure, maybe Albert Einstein? :)

[bluevictim]

Was that really a question, or just a suggestion?

[kathycf]

Does it matter? :lol:

[bluevictim]

Does anything matter?

[kathycf]

Who am I to say?

[bluevictim]

Are you who you say you are?

[Redzeppelin]

And if not, then who are you?

[kathycf]

Am I not myself?

*goes off to check*

[bluevictim]

Are you quoting a song by The Who?

EDIT: What did you find out when you checked?

[kathycf]

I think that is personal, don't you? :p
Why must I be so silly?

[bluevictim]

Is someone forcing you to be silly?

[kathycf]

Am I not my own worst taskmaster?

[bluevictim]

Are you from New England?

[kathycf]

Yes, didn't you see that under my avatar? ;)
Are you trying to say that New Englanders are their own worst taskmasters?

[bluevictim]

Isn't there some stereotype about New Englanders and their Puritan work ethic?

[seasong]

Aren't Puritans those people that made gossipers wear a metal spiked 'tongue'?

[Madhuri]

Is gossiping so bad??

[smilingtearz]

isn't it useless?

[Madhuri]

It is. :nod:

Can I buy something for free? :D

[smilingtearz]

how would it be "buying" if it's free of cost?

[Madhuri]

Thats exactly what I want to know. :D

Why isnt impossible possible? :D

[Pendragon]

Haven't you read Alice in Wonderland? Isn't there a quote in there about doing 'three impossible things before breakfest'? :lol:

[thefemalemind]

Well, didn't you watch the movie?

[kathycf]

Can I have breakfast instead?

[Maria L]

you can have breakfast and a movie :)

Why does Disney have to box up all of their movies after a while?

[kathycf]

Does it have something to do with marketing techniques?
If people think they can only get movies at certain times, will they not try to buy them up quickly?

What movie will be playing during breakfast, and will it go well with my french toast? :D

[bluevictim]

What movies go well with french toast?

[kathycf]

Anything but graphic horror, right? I mean, who wants to see guts and gore with their french toast, am I right? ;)

[bluevictim]

Is there any kind of food that guts and gore would go well with? Would it go well with a steak (cooked rare, I guess)?

[Maria L]

ofcourse! Is there any movie that would go well WITHOUT popcorn?

[Pendragon]

Shouldn't Kath be watching The Breakfest Club? http://p.webshots.com/ProThumbs/77/33577_wallpaper400.jpg

[Maria L]

The breakfast club is good, but how about duck soup?

[RobinHood3000]

Who can deny that Duck Soup is the superior movie, by far?

[Maria L]

noobody
Best comedy dinner movie?

[ennison]

Carry On Cooking.
When does a little nonsense now and then become an obsessive act of sublimating intellectual engagement with the real?

[Maria L]

lol, oooh big words!

"Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected?"

[thefemalemind]

What about unexpecting the expected?

[ennison]

Big words wot like Marmalade and corrugations and such like?

How big does a word have to be before it qualifies as big? Is ponderous a big word? How about voluminous? Does exiguous qualify or .... horror of horrors .... it's like being on a blooming ski slope .....its gathering momentum it's coming ... it's here it's antidisestablishmentarianism gulp puff puff. I'm away to lie down now.

[The Bookinator]

Why is big called big? Why can't it be orange or joyful instead of being called big? What's up with me and adjectives today?

[thefemalemind]

If i knew what was up with you and your adjectives, I could tell you now couldn't I? Why are you asking me if the first place? Don't you know I'm crazy?

[Maria L]

you're crazy? Shouldn't you be in an asylum then?

[Pendragon]

Ever been in one? The sharp thud of that door locking that defines your current world? The lying awake at night wondering exactly what sort of illness your roomate has and if they will attack you in the night? Hearing screaming going on and wondering what is happening, then having your room door locked? Ah, but you never know what people might like, do you? http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/AbsalomKane/acc31.gif

[thefemalemind]

well i guess i should be in an asylum, shouldn't i? but why would i be in there when i can be on here and write wonderful poetry and read it too?

[ennison]

Asylum's where you get sanctuary from the outside world innit?

[Pendragon]

There's two types of assylum, me mate, you wouldn't like the one kind, take me word on it, OK? May I offer condolences on the loss of your beloved father, Lady Female Mind? http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/figuren/a135.gif

[Madhuri]

Arent we prisoners of our own devices?

I am sorry for your loss, Female Mind.

[AimusSage]

Why do some feel fine eating grapes in the basement of life?

[Madhuri]

What does it mean?

[AimusSage]

isn't that obvious?

[Madhuri]

Isnt it obviously obvious that it isnt obvious?

What am I saying? :rolleyes:

Does it mean that some people never want to become forerunner in life?

[AimusSage]

Is that what you think it means?

[Madhuri]

Wasnt I just guessing the meaning?

Do you confirm my guess?

[AimusSage]

How do the grapes get into the basement?

[Madhuri]

Do you think I am Miss-Know-All?

[AimusSage]

Are you trying to say you are not the one in the tree by the garden of knowledgable plantlife?

[Madhuri]

Where is that supposed to be?

[AimusSage]

It isn't in Delhi?

[Madhuri]

Is it? How come I dont know of such a graden?

[AimusSage]

Is it possible that it was consumed by the powersurges in a plant not far from utopia?

[Madhuri]

Do you think plants feel?

[AimusSage]

What if they do? Do you feel for plants that feel, or do you like the plants that do not feel?

[Madhuri]

Wont everything be dead if feelings were taken out?

[AimusSage]

Is that a subtle hint telling me I'm dead?

[Madhuri]

:lol:

Are you? I think you are a warm person. Do you disagree?

[AimusSage]

Am I allowed to disagree?

[Madhuri]

No.

Do you take my view as final? If not then some sharp object will be waiting for you...;)

[AimusSage]

what kind of sharp object are we talking about here? Can it be used to refute your claim that I am a warm person, or do my protests fall unto deaf ears?

[Madhuri]

Do you think any sharp object is sharp enough to refute my claim? :rolleyes:

[AimusSage]

You think I am better of using a large blunt object?

[Madhuri]

Wasnt the sharp or blunt object to be used by me?

Can I eat something else?

[AimusSage]

What would you like to eat? A banana?

[Madhuri]

Do I have more choices?

[AimusSage]

I take it that means you don't want to eat a banana?

[Madhuri]

Does it not mean I am an unsure person?

[AimusSage]

Do we need to ask freud what not eating bananas means?

[Madhuri]

Do bananas and dreams have a connection?

[AimusSage]

could it be linked to an subconscious desire?

[Madhuri]

Isnt it what dreams reflect?

[AimusSage]

you dream?

[Madhuri]

maybe I do, maybe not.

Are you saying I dream of bananas?

[AimusSage]

What kind of bananas do you dream about?

[Chava]

what are these ba-na-na's you speak of?

[AimusSage]

Have you asked freud yet?

[Madhuri]

Do you know of Freud's food habits? Was he a banana lover?

[AimusSage]

Don't you think he prefered his mother?

[Madhuri]

Since when have mother's become food?

[AimusSage]

Do you eat your mother ? :eek:

[Madhuri]

:lol:

No, silly. But, my mother thinks I bother her a lot :rolleyes:

Why are mothers like that?

[AimusSage]

isn't it what mothers do? Bother people untill they no longer can be bothered?

[Madhuri]

Do I want to sleep and have good dreams only?

[AimusSage]

How can you not want that? You do know how to wake up right?

[Madhuri]

Can someone wake me up at the right time?

Why is the sky at night black?

[AimusSage]

Are there no stars to guide your dreams into the night? What if there is no one awake to wake you up? What if they all dream of turnips?

[Madhuri]

Dont you think i'll have to sleep to know of all this? And wouldnt it be a nightmare if I dream of turnips? turnips...in my dreams too....Noooooo :rolleyes:

[AimusSage]

Can one, by counting turnips, become immortal?

[ennison]

Immortal? No. Hungry maybe.

If the turnip had a personality how would it be described ... in Freudian terms?

[AimusSage]

Could it be a little turnipian in preferences?

[ennison]

Do you extend freewill to the turnip .... or are its preferences instinctive?

[kathycf]

Do you think a turnip is ruled soley by it's turnipey Id? :p

[Madhuri]

Arent turnips ruled by Martians?

[AimusSage]

Isn't that a bit presumptious? Don't you think it is more likely they co-exist?

[Madhuri]

Can you show some evidence?

[Pendragon]

Well, I could show you a turnip but wouldn't you know it, my camera jammed when I tried to be the first to get real phorographagic evidence of Martains? http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/edoom/spacecraft.gif

[ennison]

Don't you think it is only a matter of time before we realise that turnips and other roots are sentient creatures?
Why cant everyone be as polite as Logos?

[bluevictim]

What would all the vegetarians eat?

[zanna]

We'd all have to share, wouldn't we?

[bluevictim]

What would you share?

[zanna]

I'd share my eggplant, but not my chocolate, wouldn't you? :D

[bluevictim]

If roots are sentient creatures, would you still eat eggplant?

[zanna]

I don't eat it anyway, do you think I'd start, especially if I found that out?

[bluevictim]

What would it take to get you to start eating eggplant?

[zanna]

Do you have a million dollars? :D

[bluevictim]

No, but would you eat it in a house? Would you eat it with a mouse?

[thefemalemind]

There's two types of assylum, me mate, you wouldn't like the one kind, take me word on it, OK? May I offer condolences on the loss of your beloved father, Lady Female Mind? http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/figuren/a135.gif

----____yes you may. and thank you_____----

[zanna]

How would I know if you had a million dollars?

[thefemalemind]

well, wouldn't you know telepathicaly , using your telepathic mind?

[bluevictim]

What if I make myself think I have a million dollars even if I don't?

[kathycf]

Isn't that self delusional?

[zanna]

How do you delude yourself? Stand out in a deluge?

[kathycf]

Wouldn't that be deluging oneself, not deluding oneself?

[zanna]

Aw, who cares, anyway? Isn't that a pretty insignificant difference? :D

[bluevictim]

Are there any differences that aren't insignificant?

[zanna]

In what context?

[bluevictim]

Are there contexts which have more significant differences than others?

[zanna]

Why would you need to know?

[bluevictim]

Would it help in job interviews?

[zanna]

Aren't you supposed to dress nicely for those?

[Madhuri]

Will 'Intelligent professor shabbily dressed' look work?

[Pendragon]

Why not? I have a very high IQ and I would manage to look sloppy in the best tailor made suit, so this will be a "come as you are unless you ARE in the buff", I take it? http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/xerx/CO.gif

[Madhuri]

What will the interviewer think in that case?

[kathycf]

Would that not depend on the individual interviewer and their views of public nudity?

[ennison]

Please do not distract me. I am very easily distracted.

To answer an earlier question 'What would we share / eat?'

Ground down minerals I guess. Vitamin pills. Astronaut grub. A three course meal in a pill.

And now the interviewer is asking ''...............................................' '?

[zanna]

Why would he ask that? Shouldn't everybody know that a three course meal in a pill would be great? :lol:

[kathycf]

It would be a time saver to have such a pill, but wouldn't you miss eating dessert?

[Pendragon]

Isn't dessert the best part of the meal? And come to think of it, Kathy, wouldn't it also depend on what sort of job one was apply for? What if one is applying to be an artist's model or an exotic dancer, wouldn't they be expected to show off their, um, "assets"? http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/figuren/h020.gif

[Madhuri]

Cant I have dessert morning, noon and night? What will become of me if I follow such a routine?

[bluevictim]

How long do you think you could keep that routine up?

[kathycf]

I guess the job interviewer would have to specify the specific nudity they wanted from the interviewee before the actual interview took place, since it is best to be prepared, no? :p

Would Madhuri really eat desserts all day long? :idea:

[AimusSage]

Could I be more bored? Shouldn't I be studying for my law exam tomorrow? What's with the deserts, does anyone eat deserts in the nude?

[bluevictim]

What would you do if your job interviewer specified a nude interview?

[kathycf]

Would I not follow the Boyscout motto and "be prepared"?

Does Aim enjoy turnip desserts in the nude instead of studying for his exams? :eek:

[AimusSage]

Could you be on to something? :p

[Madhuri]

Will the law exams contain questions on this particular way of dress up or down?

[bluevictim]

Would nude dessert eating help when studying for law exams?

[kathycf]

Would it not be worthwhile to find out? Would not anything that helps with law exams be worthwhile to find out? :D

[bluevictim]

Is there a law against it?

[kathycf]

Do you have to ask? Given that this is questions only thread, you know that is a rhetorical question, right? :p

[zanna]

Is any question really rhetorical? Can't all questions be answered some way or another?

[bluevictim]

Why would anyone think my question was rhetorical?

[Domer121]

Why would anyone not?

[zanna]

Isn't all about perception? What if I thought it was a viable question?

[Pendragon]

And if you did? Is Amius planning on showing up in court with a turnip pinned to his lapel (provided he passed the bar exam!), like the fifth Doctor Who used to go around with the celery? :lol:

[kathycf]

Wouldn't that be quite the fashion statement? :lol:
Will Aim start a trend with the turnip lapel?

[Madhuri]

What is Aims up to? Does he plan to make eating turnips everyday a law for all litnettians?

[Pendragon]

Hasn't that been obvious from the begining? What will a typical day's menu look like, do you think?

[kathycf]

How about scrambled turnip for breakfast and roast turnip for dinner, followed by turnip pudding? Would that not be lovely?

(btw, did you know turnip is nutritious and delicious?)

[bluevictim]

Is it common knowledge that turnip is nutritious and delicious?

[kathycf]

Is it not? Is this information available only to turnipers then? ;)

[bluevictim]

Are there a lot of turnipers?

[kathycf]

Did you know there is a LitNet turnipers club, of which I am a member and Aimus is the club president?

[Madhuri]

Can you show us your member ship cards? :p What kind of activities are carried out in such a club?

[Pendragon]

Well, does a hoe handle fit your hand? Are you able-bodied enough to till the soil? Can you distinguish between a turnip and a rutabaga? Were you aware that you can eat both the top (greens) and the bulb (root) of the turnip? Did I miss any important questions for membership, Aimus? :thumbs_up :p

[Bookworm89]

What is a turnip?

[kathycf]

A vegetable commonly available in the supermarket or grocer's produce aisle, and the subject of a certain person's obsession...Did I get everything?

[Pendragon]

Isn't a picture worth a thousand words? http://www.georgiasupply.com/images/veggies/TurnipWhiteGlobe.jpg

[Madhuri]

Is it the famous quote by Napoleon? Was he fond of turnips too? No wonder Aimus is always talking about army and war :goof:

[kathycf]

I don't think Napolean was the author of that proverb, it has been referred to by many, no?

As for war and turnips, would that not make an excellent title of a book? :lol:

[ennison]

What do you mean 'would'. I've already used it.

[Bookworm89]

Why are we still talking about turnips?

[ennison]

We Just Must have our five portions a day. Twain almost called one of his books Turniphead Wilson.

[Domer121]

Why are turnips not as good as peas?

[Bookworm89]

Why peas instead of broccoli? What's the matter with Broccoli-head Wilson?

[kathycf]

Might I might be able to answer what was wrong with said person, if I acually knew who they were?

[Riesa]

Why don't you know who they are? and why oh why did you write might twice?

[kathycf]

Would you believe that wasn't me that wrote might twice, but my evil twin? :eek:

[Bookworm89]

Why should she know who they are?

[AimusSage]

Don't you think her evil twin eats too much broccoli?

[Riesa]

Can one really eat too much broccoli?

[Madhuri]

Is 'too much' some amount that a person has to eat to show that they ate too much brocolli?

[The Bookinator]

What's brocolli? Is it gross?

[Pendragon]

Book, didn't your mother make you clean your plate? Must I educate you again with a picture? http://www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/veggies/images/broccoli.jpg Twain's Hero, Pudden'head Wilson, had nothing wrong with him, the town, however, was over abundant with fools of all sorts, who mistook education for ignorance, so it was much the same as today, no? :lol:

[Bookworm89]

I'm talented at getting everyone to talk about broccoli, aren't I?

[Madhuri]

Yes you are :nod: There was a need to change the topic from turnips to something else.

Dont you think that picture of broccoli shows it to be too green? Does it come in the category of boring vegetables, just like turnips (not at all tempting? :p :D

[Lily Adams]

Why does Baldrick love turnips so much? :lol:

[Pendragon]

Just what would you consider "not a boring vegtable", Maddie? I mean they are all either roots or leafly parts, correct? Or seed pods? Or in the case of brocoli and cauliflower, the flowers, I think? Do any of them look particularly interesting?

[kathycf]

Why so down on the veggies, folks?

[Pendragon]

Did I say I was "down on vegtables", She-who-is-not-to-be-named? After all, I wouldn't suggest anyone visit a meat processing plant, either, unless you want to swear off meat for life, perhaps? Do you know that Valleydale had a plant about 60 miles from here and I could hardly stomach driving by the place on the highway, the stench was so bad?

[Madhuri]

Pen, isnt potato the most desirable vegetable? It surely is the king of vegetables... :D :D

I would not want to visit the plant. I am sure all the workers of the processing unit will be vegetarians :)

[Pendragon]

Do you realize there is almost no way to serve a potato wrong? Hows that for an all-purpose veggie? I would almost be willing to bet that the average family has potatoes in some form daily, you know? Oh, yeah, tomatoes, cucumbers, pumpkins, squash, zucchini and eggplants are not really veggies, but fruit, did you know that? ;)

[Domer121]

I think seed's are why they are fruits, right?
Why are Poatatoe's so easy to eat at every meal?

[Madhuri]

Is it necessary that we analyse the potatoes so much? Cant we just eat a few french fries? :p

[RobinHood3000]

Not only that, did you know that tomatoes and grapes are berries, but strawberries, blueberries, and raspberries aren't?

At least, I THINK that's right...

[bluevictim]

Should we rename strawberries, blueberries, and raspberries?

[Laindessiel]

Don't you think they would complain? :

http://shaunb.blogs.com/photos/produce/raspberry.jpg

http://www.thegourmetgarden.co.uk/images/prodlrg/Blueberry.jpg

http://www.boxtedberries.com/pickyourown/strawberry.jpg

[bluevictim]

Do berries have feelings?

[Laindessiel]

Didn't you watch Mythbusters take on the subject? But sadly, the myth was busted. :( Yogurt reacts, though don't you think that's absurd?

[bluevictim]

Do you think the Mythbusters show is trustworthy?

[Laindessiel]

Why not??? They give everything a chance, don't they? Do you watch it?

[Madhuri]

What will the berries do with the chance they get?

[Laindessiel]

Pardon, don't ask me, do you think I look like a berry?

[Madhuri]

:lol:

Do you want me to agree?

[RobinHood3000]

Didn't you watch Mythbusters take on the subject? But sadly, the myth was busted. :( Yogurt reacts, though don't you think that's absurd?Eh? What did the episode say?

[Redzeppelin]

You didn't see it?

[Riesa]

Does it really matter?

[Virgil]

Is Mythbusters broadcast internationally?

[Riesa]

huh?. . . .

[Pendragon]

Lian is a Flower, remember? http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/flowers/001.gif With sattalite TV, I would think Mythbusters broadcast internationally, did Robin see the one where they tried splitting one arrow with another?

[Bookworm89]

Do you have friends that watch Mythbusters?

[The Bookinator]

Why? Should I ask them? What channel is Mythbusters on, anyway?

[RobinHood3000]

Lian is a Flower, remember? http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/flowers/001.gif With sattalite TV, I would think Mythbusters broadcast internationally, did Robin see the one where they tried splitting one arrow with another?Can you believe I haven't? Do you have any idea how frustrating that is? :p

[B-Mental]

Are you talking to me? Robin? Hello? Anybody?

[Pendragon]

Can you believe I haven't? Do you have any idea how frustrating that is? :pDo you know they had a guy who did it with one shot, but the arrow he split had to be made of bamboo before it would work? :p

[kathycf]

Why? Should I ask them? What channel is Mythbusters on, anyway?
Would you believe the Discovery Channel?

Does anybody else ever think Jaime (on Mythbusters) looks like a very intelligent walrus?

[bluevictim]

You mean a very intelligent walrus with a beret?

[Pendragon]

Does that make Adam "The Carpenter", according to Lewis Carroll's poem? :lol:


http://www.jabberwocky.com/carroll/pics/glass20.gif

[zanna]

Isn't that the one the Tweedles recited? Don't you think it's a great poem?

[Pendragon]

Why else would I have it memorized? Have you talked of many things, of shoes and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages and kings, and why the sea is boiling hot and whether pigs have wings? ;)

[khalakh_the_3rd]

Do they have wings?

[ennison]

That's a nifty little poem. Do you know the one called 'The Kraken'

The Kraken

Below the thunders of the upper deep,
Far, far beneath in the abysmal sea,
His ancient, dreamless, uninvaded sleep
The Kraken sleepeth: faintest sunlights flee
About his shadowy sides; above him swell
Huge sponges of millennial growth and height;
And far away into the sickly light,
From many a wondrous and secret cell
Unnumber'd and enormous polypi
Winnow with giant arms the lumbering green.
There hath he lain for ages, and will lie
Battening upon huge sea-worms in his sleep,
Until the latter fire shall heat the deep;
Then once by man and angels to be seen,
In roaring he shall rise and on the surface die.

Alfred, Lord Tennyson


Did you know that giant and colossal squid are getting bigger?

Global Warming's a ploy by the sybarites to get more calamari!!

[Pendragon]

Are you trying to force me to enforce the imprisioment clause of our contract, which clearly states that "if one does not obey the rules and voice each statment as a question, they shall occupy the cell in Arkham Assylum between The Joker and The Riddler"? http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/AbsalomKane/jailed.gif

[ennison]

Global Warming's a ploy by the sybarites to get more calamari?
Questions are as much a matter of tone of voice as word order and that's one of the functions of punctuation?

[Pendragon]

You never learned that? http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/AbsalomKane/Smilies/acc39.gif

[RobinHood3000]

Dontcha just love Jamie and Adam?

And is Adam so much the Carpenter as the Demolitions Worker?

[Pendragon]

If you first build something and then blow it up, aren't you still The Carpenter? http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/AbsalomKane/Smilies/acc04.gif

[BibliophileTRJ]

Are we talking about KAREN Carpenter or has this thread taken a decidedly religious turn?

[kathycf]

Wasn't it Lewis Carrol's carpenter?

How is everybody doing?

[littlewing53]

Why is it that everybody is always doing something?

[zanna]

Isn't it impossible to do nothing?

[kathycf]

Isn't asking "how somebody is doing" a colloquial term for inquiring on the state of one's well being?

If we are deceased, can we be said then to be doing "nothing"? :p

[zanna]

Aren't dead people decomposing?

[Madhuri]

Arent dead people good at haunting others?

[kathycf]

Has anybody ever been haunted by a living person?
I am sure it is possible, no? :lol:

[The Raven]

possible? what else is possible on earth besides this everlasting uncertainty?

[Redzeppelin]

Can you be certain that you're uncertain?

[kathycf]

Can I believe in six impossible things before breakfast and leave it at that?

:idea:

[littlewing53]

how does one become left or right handed?

[ennison]

You mean if one is already ambidextrous? Chop one off? Bit severe though hmm?

[zanna]

why is there a bias against left-handed people?

[ennison]

When people wrote with pens dipped in ink, a left handed writer would tend to drag his hand through what he had just done and make a mess. So gie the fellow a smack till he stops that.
There's no bias now.

But bowls are biased aint they?

[kathycf]

Aren't utensils generally bias free?

[Kaltrina]

What are u guys talking about?? :D

[littlewing53]

why do right handed people outnumber left handed people?

[Domer121]

Well I don't know, do you?

[ennison]

bowls ..... as in bowling .......... geddit?

[kathycf]

Who knows, and who would rather have a cookie?
Don't cookies solve problems one way or another?

[hockeychick8792]

(this is my favorite part of who's line)

Why would a cookie solve a probelm?
Isn't it chocolate that solves everything?

[BibliophileTRJ]

Cookies? Isn't it PIE that is the answer to all problems?

[kathycf]

Pi might answer questions, but isn't pie better than pi? Particularly fresh peach pie with icecream?

Would I argue with any sentiments expressed regarding chocolate? Is chocolate not synomous with manna? :lol:

Hmm, lots of food references...is it obvious I haven't eaten yet today? :p