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mono
07-15-2006, 09:33 PM
With any such decision making or related conflicts requiring such a complex resolution, firstly, I try to entirely avoid them. If the conflict seems absolutely inevitable, it seems nearly impossible to make a wise decision, besides resolutions based upon past experiences and intuition. I suppose I seem the type that almost always believes that any situation, no matter how complex or simple, always has a slight moment where the event appears completely out of the control of all individuals, and any result may arise.
If I cannot perceive a peaceful decision from the place to advance, obviously I cannot blame myself, nor can anyone else logically blame me, for an unfit outcome; I figure, as Immanuel Kant would write (in a very simplified form), if I intend well, aim well, and desire well, I shall surely hope well, but admittedly cannot control the outcome.

To the person below me: if the goal seemed attainable (votes, hierarchy, familial reign), would you ever attempt ruling something (city, state, country, etc.) according to your abilities?

Virgil
07-15-2006, 10:11 PM
Yes. I think it would be interesting. But I would ensure an eventual transition to democracy.

Same Q

Shakira
07-15-2006, 10:43 PM
I guess I would give it a try & maybe ?I would be a successful ruler :D

Same ques.

mono
07-16-2006, 11:21 PM
I highly doubt I would make a decent ruler of anything (city, state, country, etc.) - not necessarily out a lack of confidence, but more a lack of interest. If, by some strange series of events, I had to rule something, I would try, but would probably make a very laissez faire ruler. :p

To the person below me: if you and a group of people planned on contributing to a gift for someone, would you usually help choose the gift, or more likely go along with others' ideas (even if you did not agree with them)?

Nightshade
07-17-2006, 03:13 AM
well it depends on who the gift is for as IM not generally good with people I tend to let someone else who knows the person better to choose but I never do anything without voicing an opinion so sort of neither :D
same q

Virgil
07-17-2006, 07:04 AM
I tend to go along with what people decide for gifts. I've never come across a situation I felt the gift was wrong. If so, then I imagine I would not go in on the gift and handle it on my own.

SameQ

Pendragon
07-17-2006, 08:52 AM
I'm not really know for holding back an opinion... :lol:

Would you ever go to a job interview and try to get the job (because of the pay scale), even after finding out you are not really qualified?

Kelly_Sprout
07-17-2006, 11:24 AM
Actually, I'm just the opposite. I've held back, not wanting to pursue the job, because I'm harder on myself regarding my qualifications than the prospective employer is. I had one employer select me ahead of time and then, when I politely declined to come in for an interview (not knowing he had already selected me), he called me and told me point-blank, "You can have the job, but I need to document the interview with you to make the folks in HR happy. Please come in for the interview."

However, I would like to know just how far someone might go to get the job, so I'm going to pass the same question on to see what others do.

AimusSage
07-17-2006, 12:58 PM
If I'm not qualified, I should never get the job, no matter how hard I try to get it, unfortunately, this is only true in a world where people know how to take a good job interview. Chances are, If I put on my convincing attitude, I'd probably get it. I'm somewhat of a perfectionist, and tend to be hard on myself, like Mr. Sprout. As such I would not try to get a job I'm not qualified for.

Same Q, sorry, but my mind is at the dry cleaners atm.

papayahed
07-17-2006, 01:05 PM
The way I see it it's up to the interviewer/company to determine if I'm qualified. I wouldn't lie, I wouldn't change my resume but if i'm asked for an interview I assume they already know my qualifications and perhaps see my potential.

Would you ever look for another job just to use it as leverage to get a raise from your current employer?

mono
07-17-2006, 11:20 PM
I really do not know. :lol: Probably not, when I really think of it. If I desired a pay-raise enough, I would probably mention it very bluntly, only with good reason, to either my manager or the human resources department, but if I did not get it, wanted it badly enough, or it affected my job greatly, I would likely find another job with the intention of quitting.

To the person below me: same question --

Would you ever look for another job just to use it as leverage to get a raise from your current employer?

literaturerocks
07-17-2006, 11:24 PM
well if the job was not paying enough and i simply could not suppory myself (such as not being able to pay for food) yes but otherwise i would probably do the same as mono and just ask for the raise.

same question

Shakira
07-18-2006, 04:10 AM
Rather than doing such a thing I would ask my boss for a raise & if its not settled then I'd look for another high-paying job & quit this one.

Same ques.

Virgil
07-18-2006, 06:56 AM
I haven't done it. But I'm not sure I see anything immoral about it.

Same Q

papayahed
07-19-2006, 09:43 AM
Nobody said anything about the morality of it. I haven't done it and don't think I would.

Would you embarrass yourself in front of many people in order to make a small child laugh?

Virgil
07-19-2006, 09:44 AM
Done it, and not just for a child. Sure.

Same Q.

AimusSage
07-19-2006, 10:07 AM
Never, there are far more sophisticated ways to make a child laugh, and that's even saying I would want to make a child laugh in the first place.

Would you ride up the Alpe d'huez and survive? Meaning you would have enough energy left.

mono
07-19-2006, 04:15 PM
Having energy? I wonder. I know of the popular bicycle ride, and may have some difficulty with that, preferring more to hike; if I gave myself a lot of time, and paced myself, however, I think I could achieve it after going through more exercise and preparation for a few months or year.

To the person below me: same question.

Madhuri
07-21-2006, 09:04 AM
I would like to give it a try and see if I have any energy left. Probably, I would be writing to you all from heaven (ya heaven) :D :D :lol:

same question

Pendragon
07-21-2006, 09:13 AM
Right now, looking at my size, age, and the number of broken bones I've suffered in my adventuresome youth, it ain't happining! At one time, yeah, I could have accomplished it, but now, I'm afraid not.

Would you hike the enitre 2175-mile Appalichain Trail (Georgia to Maine, USA) if you had the time?? (I ask because it runs within a few miles of the house, and I have day-hiked about 100 miles of it.) :)

Virgil
07-21-2006, 09:46 AM
If time were no object, I think it would be great to hike it. It is beautiful country. BTW, Pen, did you hike the 100 miles in one day?

Same Q

mono
07-21-2006, 01:44 PM
Definitely, but only if I had the time, and lots of time to prepare for, perhaps, months prior to the trip. I could not love hiking more, primarily around nature, and I have heard lovely things of the Appalachian Trail . . . *sigh, maybe someday, yet I have so many plans of multiple hiking trips to make.

To the person below me: if given the chance, knowing you would never get caught, would you commit a minor crime (such as stealing)?

Hyacinth Girl
07-21-2006, 02:23 PM
I like to think not. However, if I were starving (literally) and there was a nice apple pie on an open windowsill, I believe I would give in to hunger and take it. (just call me valJean)

Next poster: same question

Pensive
07-21-2006, 04:31 PM
I will commit the crime because my conscious will hurt me a lot if I wouldn't.

Same Question.

thevintagepiper
07-21-2006, 09:53 PM
No. At least, I'd try not to ;)

Would you ever change your first name, and if so, what would you change it to?

Shakira
07-22-2006, 12:56 PM
I love my first name . . . I would never change it.

Same ques.

literaturerocks
07-22-2006, 01:00 PM
no i dont think i would..i like my name

to the person below me:same question

papayahed
07-22-2006, 01:55 PM
Why would I change Papayahed??? Love it!! No I wouldn't change my first name.

Same question:
Would you change your first name?

mono
07-22-2006, 11:12 PM
No, I like my first name, actually, yet my middle name . . . I would not change either, though it sounds a little funny. Both, my first and middle name, my parents chose respectively carefully for specific reasons, and I could not see myself ruining their intentions.

To the person below me: switching the question a bit, would you ever change your middle name?

RobinHood3000
07-23-2006, 12:04 AM
Yes. To "Trouble."

Same question.

Pendragon
07-23-2006, 10:26 AM
I'd change my entire name most likely. I use neither my first or middle names, all my poetry was published under D.L. Harris. or a pseudonym. My Shadow short stories on John Olsen's website are under Jonathan Blade, although dear old John copyrights them to my real name. Most of my friends call me Blade here at home, and Pen on the LitNet. I just don't like my name, that's all.

Would you pass on you name to a child, making him or her a Jr. or III or whatever?

literaturerocks
07-23-2006, 10:29 AM
no i dont think i would that seems somewhat self involved and i want my child to be his/her own person

same q

papayahed
07-23-2006, 11:02 AM
Yes, it adds to a sense of history. My middle name is from my grandma, I kinda dig it.

Would you name your child "Apple" if the computer company paid you $100,000?

Madhuri
07-23-2006, 12:10 PM
Not for the money, only if I liked the name. But I really do not think Apple seems to be a great name to keep afterall. I would rather name her Fruity or maybe think of a nice name with a deeper meaning (latter would be my preference). :nod:

If some friend of yours calls up only once or twice in a year primarily to only collect some more gossip or because she has nothing better to do at that time.

Would you recieve such a friend nicely? If you decide not to disclose anything about yourself and your friend says she was hurt by your attitude. Would you react to it????

mono
07-23-2006, 01:06 PM
Good question. With these kinds of friends, I unintentionally (honestly) keep the conversations relatively vague, short, and meaningless; with these people, I cannot exactly form an attachment or strong affinity, only in a few exceptions. On average, I tend to rather have few good friends, rather than many acquaintances.

To the person below me: same question --

If some friend of yours calls up only once or twice in a year primarily to only collect some more gossip or because she has nothing better to do at that time. Would you recieve such a friend nicely? If you decide not to disclose anything about yourself and your friend says she was hurt by your attitude. Would you react to it????

papayahed
07-23-2006, 06:27 PM
oh, good one reminds me of a predictament at work. Like Mono said I would try to keep it vague and short. I would not react to the fact that my friend said she was hurt. I would just say I had a prior engagement and couldn't talk or something like that.

You have a Coworker always asking questions about your business, for example "Did you and Fred go to dinner last night (fred being another coworker from out of town)? It wasn't a secret so you tell her.

Same coworker tells you she is going to be gone a few days on vacation, you ask where? and the coworker gives the vague answer of "Away from here".

This is a repeated pattern for the both of you. You blurt out your business (the normal everyday conversation stuff, nothing personel), coworker is very secretive.

Would you change your customery behavior and try to be as vague as your coworker about answering question?

thevintagepiper
07-23-2006, 09:54 PM
I don't think so. It would bother me, but not enough to change the way I tend to talk and be.


Does your speech or manner change significantly when you are with various company??

RobinHood3000
07-23-2006, 10:47 PM
Butter my buns and call me a biscuit, you better believe it!!

Same question.

Madhuri
07-23-2006, 11:00 PM
Yes it does. I am not comfortable in all company and decide what to speak about with that particular person and that changes my behaviour. I am not same with all.

Same question.

literaturerocks
07-23-2006, 11:46 PM
i too change when around certain people..i always am myself however :nod:

same question (good one)

Adelheid
07-24-2006, 03:54 AM
oh yes.

Do you know anyone's behaviour who doesn't change when around different people?

RobinHood3000
07-24-2006, 06:44 AM
Yes - he's universally idiotic.

Same question!

Pendragon
07-24-2006, 11:01 AM
People change slightly, but underneath it all, they are who they are. Knowing Adelheid, I would point out that Paul said in the Bible that he was all things to all people. To those without the law as without the law that he might gain those without the law. But he remained Paul. As does everyone else, even if they change a bit around different people.

I'll pass your question on:


Do you know anyone's behaviour who doesn't change when around different people?

mono
07-24-2006, 03:32 PM
That seems difficult to judge, as I seem not in the presence of someone constantly, but I know very few people who have this behavior, and admire them for it.

To the person below me: would you ever sell a gift given to you by a loved one?

Madhuri
07-24-2006, 03:37 PM
No. Never.

same q.

Hyacinth Girl
07-24-2006, 05:27 PM
Under normal circumstances, no. THe Gift of the Magi comes to mind. . . . I was always made so sad by that story

Next person: same question

Adelheid
07-25-2006, 05:20 AM
Never. It is like giving a gift of love away. I would be pained if I were the person who gave the gift.

Would you rather write an essay or clean the house?

Virgil
07-25-2006, 07:15 AM
Never. It is like giving a gift of love away. I would be pained if I were the person who gave the gift.

Would you rather write an essay or clean the house?
Adelheid's back! Nice to see you.

As to the question, depends on the essay. If I like the subject, then essay.

same Q.

Pendragon
07-25-2006, 09:46 AM
As a writer, I prefer to write, on any subject!

Would you spend 30 days with a person whose beliefs and values were diametrically opposite to yours?

papayahed
07-25-2006, 10:12 AM
Sure - i might learn something.

Same question:
Would you spend 30 days with a person whose beliefs and values were diametrically opposite to yours?

Virgil
07-25-2006, 10:13 AM
Sure - i might learn something.

Same question:
Would you spend 30 days with a person whose beliefs and values were diametrically opposite to yours?
Isn't that called husband and wife? :D

30 days? No way. A day or two perhaps.

Same Q.

Pensive
07-25-2006, 11:23 AM
Oh well, my parents beliefs are very much opposite to mine and I am spending time with them. I am living in their house.
Same Question!

Madhuri
07-25-2006, 11:48 AM
All my life I have lived with my parents despite their thought process being very different. But we have over the years learnt to give each other the space needed while being ourselves. So it is actually not 30 but a few thousand days that I have lived with them, a lot I guess. :D

Same question...

AimusSage
07-25-2006, 01:09 PM
Sure, as long as the person doesn't try to convert me to their beliefs in anyway I don't see why not. I'm sure we'd get along fine, to a certain extent.

Would you remember yesterday a year from now?

mono
07-25-2006, 03:07 PM
Perhaps yes, actually, having completed writing the first act of a play. :D

To the person below me: interesting question, so I pass it along --

Would you remember yesterday a year from now?

Kelly_Sprout
07-25-2006, 05:30 PM
No. I remember many days, but no matter which one or ones I think of, I cannot tell you for certain if they happened exactly one year ago from today (or any particular day). Birthdays, holidays, fixed points in time, of course are different, but I'm talking about the things little things that all together make up the experience of living a day. Do I remember how that scar on my leg came to be? Of course I do! Do I remember how long ago it was? Yes! Could I put it on my calendar as an "anniversary" of some morbid type? No, because I really don't remember when it happened. If that is true for a traumatic day like that, why would I remember an ordinary yesterday a year from now?


To the next person, let's take this one step further. Can you remember what you said or did throughout the entire day, yesterday?

Shakira
07-26-2006, 01:10 PM
Yes I do remember. I had a lecture on Feminism & we discussed the various aspects of Feminism & the different ways in which women are subordinated in the Society.

Would you accept your mistake (any mistake) publicly ?

Virgil
07-26-2006, 03:05 PM
For the most part I accept my mistakes. Publicly I guess depends on the mistake.

Same Q

mono
07-26-2006, 04:20 PM
I certainly agree with Virgil; I could easily admit publicly that I accidentally burned some popcorn yesterday, but could not publicly admit . . . well, I will not admit them here, either! :lol:

To the person below me: would you ever travel to a country in turmoil, or in war (even in a war not involved with your country)?

Kelly_Sprout
07-26-2006, 08:50 PM
Not out of the freedom to choose anywhere and choosing such a dangerous place, no. But for freedom, absolutely yes. In other words, for personal or selfish or inward-looking reasons, no, but for altruistic or patriotic or humanitarian or defensive reasons, in the name of a credo I uphold, yes.

To the person below me: How much love or other value would it take for you to willingly give up your freedom or life to prevent someone else from having to give up their freedom or life?

Pendragon
07-26-2006, 09:06 PM
I place very little value on my own life. If it could futher another's well-being, I would die that they might live. It's not for sainthood, it's for I'd finally be free, and have done something right at least once. I'm not looking for pity here, que sera, sera.

That said, if you had a serious medical condition, how far would you go to be "normal"?

Adelheid
07-27-2006, 07:17 AM
Perhaps I'm already normal, and everyone else is abnormal? :D Do I make myself abnormal just to be normal with the abnormal guys? :P I would only go so far to correct my condition if the risk is lesser than not doing anything.

Virgil
07-27-2006, 07:22 AM
Good question Pen. I think I would try to be as healthy as possible that will not cause me other problems. If the disability allows me to function to an acceptable level then I would be satisfied.

Same Q

mono
07-27-2006, 02:03 PM
With or without a serious medical condition, I would never strive to seem 'normal,' regardless. Just as Emerson wrote (though on a subject pertaining to persistent traveling), no matter how diligently one tries, one cannot avoid himself/herself. Personally, I think it takes much more bravery to acknowledge one's weaknesses and strive for self-acceptance, than to strive for interpersonal acceptance from others in order to appear 'normal.'
In terms of a physical medical condition, such as missing a leg, for example, I may opt for a prosthesis, but it would seem far more for my own benefit (the desire for walking and exercise) than to appear 'normal.'

To the person below me: would you (or have you) ever sing karaoke?

(a friend always tries to convince me, and I have given in a few times, to my subsequent embarrassment :D)

Madhuri
07-27-2006, 03:01 PM
I think I would. I have never done it though, but sounds fun.

For the person below me:

Would you change your religion if the circumstances were: war, political pressure, community pressure, marriage or change in beliefs or any other reason.

Hyacinth Girl
07-27-2006, 04:15 PM
I am such a relativist - it would depend upon the circumstances. I wouldn't give up my core religion (Christianity) for the reasons above. On the other hand, I have have compromised my religious beliefs due to marriage plans. My fiancee was Catholic and I was Lutheran - the differences in church dogma didn't matter to me because in essence, we worshipped the same God.

Next poster: same question

AimusSage
07-27-2006, 04:24 PM
Nah, I'm an atheist, and I'm not all of a sudden going to be something else. Nothing in the world will make me see that which does not exist. (although I am considering starting an Aimus worshipping cult, but there doesn't seem to be that many people interested. :( ;) )

When you have a change of heart, would you do everthing in your power to undo what you did before or would you accept and move on, or something in between, or whatever, you get the idea.

Nightshade
07-27-2006, 05:11 PM
I would get upset probably have a couple of panic attacks but YOu cant change the past whats done is done etc so Id probably put it down to learning and move on.


same q is interesting

kilted exile
07-27-2006, 05:25 PM
I dont believe in regrets, stuff happenned I cant change that.


Same Q

mono
07-28-2006, 06:19 PM
I definitely agree with kilted. I can honestly say that I seldom regret things (though I have a few regrets of my past), and whatever occurs in my 'change of heart' depends more upon myself than the situation; though a situation seems easier to alter than myself, I would likely change neither (unless my decision seriously harmed someone, of course), and continue on with life.

To the person below me: if you attended a jury on a very serious court case involving murder, would you sentence the murderer to life imprisonment or a death sentence (capital punishment)?

RobinHood3000
07-28-2006, 08:37 PM
Life imprisonment. Though some crimes may merit death, I have too little faith in myself as a dispenser of judgment to consider myself infallible.

Same question.

Kelly_Sprout
07-28-2006, 10:21 PM
If I survived the desperate attempts of both the state and the defendant to eliminate any possible potential jury member who might be capable of independent thought, you mean? Well, assuming they had both used up all their rejections before calling me, then I would be willing to entertain both options. I don't support the death penalty out of a sense of outrage, nor do I oppose the death penalty simply because it is the death penalty and death is so final. Death is final for everyone, and no one is giving me a free pass, therefore I don't reject the penalty out-of-hand without considering the arguments presented before me. Each case must, out of both necessity and law of entropy, be considered individual and must be decided on its own merits and its own merits alone.

If the facts presented merit my judgement for the death penalty, then I would sentence it. If they did not, I would choose the lesser option. This is, of course, what the opposing jurists would ask me and why I would be eliminated. Only the mindless, the careless, the weak-minded and the easily deceived would make it to the final twelve.

Next question: doesn't anyone have any questions?

literaturerocks
07-28-2006, 11:20 PM
its appears that they dont,kelly... hmm

would you repeat a question even if you didnt like it just out of laziness?

Pensive
07-29-2006, 05:54 AM
Yes, I will!

Same Question.

Kelly_Sprout
07-29-2006, 08:34 AM
No, I won't!

Same Question.

Pendragon
07-29-2006, 10:35 AM
Why bother? :lol:

If train A leaves Chicago going West at 45mph and train B leaves Denver going East at 45mph at what point will they past? :)

RobinHood3000
07-29-2006, 11:49 AM
On either side of the last train to Clarksville.

Would you toss an annoying (but expensive) piece of electrical equipment from the window of your flat?

Shakira
07-29-2006, 02:42 PM
I would rather wrap it & store it.

Would you change a few of your habits for your loved ones - say your wife/husband?

Virgil
07-29-2006, 04:19 PM
One tries. Yes, if you expect a life long marriage.

Good question. Same.

Pensive
07-29-2006, 04:52 PM
Yes, I will! At least, I will try if I really love him.

Same Question!

mono
07-30-2006, 12:03 AM
Yes, I have changed a few habits of mine in the past, and the alteration of more would not harm me, yet some habits, no doubt, will never budge from my routine. :D

To the person below me: same question (cannot think of anything :p) --

Would you change a few of your habits for your loved ones - say your wife/husband?

Adelheid
07-30-2006, 07:20 AM
I think so... no doubt everyone has done so at one point in time. :nod:

Would you ever go bungee jumping?

Pendragon
07-30-2006, 09:59 AM
On either side of the last train to Clarksville.
Gottcha! Notice I said "If". :lol:


Would you ever go bungee jumping?

Not at 300 pounds, Hiedi. When I was younger and weighed less, yeah, I was daredevil enough!

Would you try to fly around the world alone?

Virgil
07-30-2006, 10:44 AM
If I could fly and I had a plane that could do it, sure.

Same Q

Shakira
07-30-2006, 11:47 AM
I would love to fly around the world alone

Would you like to travel alone or with some company ?

Pensive
07-30-2006, 12:22 PM
Depends on the company but from my last experience, I will say without company; travelling along would be better!

Same Question! (Good one)

mono
07-30-2006, 12:25 PM
It would depend greatly on the purpose for traveling, where I would travel, and if anyone else seemed interested. If the voyage seemed for leisure, and no one felt interested, sure, I would go alone; but I would love some company to come along, too, in my own preference.

To the person below me: good question, so I pass it along --

Would you like to travel alone or with some company ?

Kelly_Sprout
07-30-2006, 01:05 PM
I have often travelled alone. I enjoy the travelling and frequently see things that I wish I could have shared with someone special. While I like being able to stop when I want, go when I want, detour with a camera (within the bounds of possible schedules) and take the time to absorb the wonders of anything, the truth is that I more and more frequently find myself tiring easily. I would like the company of someone special to share discoveries with and to take over responsibilities when I get fatigued. However, the other truth is that when I *have* been able to travel with someone else, the dynamics of the journey changes and I don't even notice the things of wonder that I would have noticed when travelling alone. I do enjoy being able to relax and unwind more because of travelling with a companion, though.

What is your favorite mode of travel and why?

mono
07-31-2006, 11:19 AM
Unfortunately, I have traveled very little, and we usually traveled by vehicle ('road trip') or by plane. Of these two, I probably enjoyed traveling by car more; though, perhaps, less 'elegant' than a plane ride, one can see a lot more in terms of scenery, stumbling upon fascinating places along the way, and, of course, stay on the ground. :D

To the person below me: would you ever attempt revenge on someone who committed a not-so-nice act on you, or usually leave the problem in the past?

Pendragon
07-31-2006, 12:23 PM
Leave it alone, although I have pulled a few little barbs on people, I am ashamed to say. Once a guy who found it amusing to torment me on a daily basis because I was no longer the guy he remembered from school who would fight at the drop of a hat, eventually wore down even this old preacher. When Friday came, I sneaked a look at his check and got his mailing address. Back at home, I filled out a card from a Parents’ Magazine advertisement for information if you suspected you had a STD in his name & address. Not long after that, he quit bothering me. He couldn't prove I did that, but I'm sure he knew. The row he had with his wife paid him back in full. But then I thought, what if I had caused them to get divorced? :( See? Best to leave things alone! :nod:

Same question, a good one, Mono.

Virgil
07-31-2006, 12:30 PM
I would let it go. I may remember and if he required a favor i may decide not too, or I certainly wouldn't lend him a hand. But i would not plan a vengful act.

Same Q

Kelly_Sprout
07-31-2006, 02:18 PM
Most, if not all, of my feelings of being abused come from either my boss or my wife. (I guess that means that most, if not all, of them come from my boss or my boss.)

I don't get even. I from thensforth forward will conduct myself to the letter in malicious compliance, no matter how absurd or disruptive or how much bigger of a fight it might cause. I have found that committing myself to exacting their stupidity onto themselves allows me to be vindicated without explicitly committing vengence.

Now, as much as I prefer to ask new questions, I happen to like this one, so... same question AGAIN!

adilyoussef
08-01-2006, 09:20 AM
I'm rather a person who likes to be left in peace. I'd rather forget it as well as the person who did it. I go my way as usual.

Same Q

mono
08-01-2006, 12:12 PM
I usually consider myself the type of person to let problems go and leave them in the past, especially if I feel I have learned everything possible from them. I admit, however, there have existed a few (very few) exceptions, which I later realized I should not have done, but I doubt, somehow, they would have ever stopped bothering me otherwise - perhaps, then, I can call it self-defense. :D

To the person below me: if you feel very depressed or angry, what would you often do to relieve your depression or anger? Do you often displace (take your anger or sadness out on something) such emotions?

Hyacinth Girl
08-01-2006, 03:49 PM
I go and do something that requires my total focus and concentration. It gets me out of a negative thought cycle by forcing me to think about something else entirely. Usually, I call up my dance partner and schedule a practice. You can't think about anything else when working through routines with another person - if you're not there mentally, bad things happen and they call you on it. Plus, dancing releases endorphins. I also go school my horse: same principle. I actively train, so I have to focus 100% on the horse, not my problems. When I'm done, the bad stuff doesn't seem so bad. I try not to displace emotion so much as gain distance from it for a time.
Next poster: if you faced verbal abuse from a client and your superiors knew about it, but asked you not to take action against said client due to religious reasons, would you respect their wishes or would you report the harassment to a governmental agency?

Adelheid
08-02-2006, 04:16 AM
I would respect their wishes. Anyway, I think the right thing for me to do would have forgiven the client anyway. I wouldn't have gone to the governmental agency even if my superiors left me to do as I wished. I don't want to get tangled in that sort of stuff- it's just not worth it. I'd forget it.

Same question. Curious to know other responses. :)

Pendragon
08-02-2006, 10:50 AM
I agree with Adelheid that we should not hold grudges anyway, but realistically, people are only human. However, it is best to let it drop. Your bosses may be asking you to say nothing, but they are quite willing to fire you if you go against their wishes, and even deny that the "alleged incident" even took place. Ask yourself if your hurt feelings are worth your income being lost. That should bring you back to earth in a hurry!

Interesting little discussion here. Same question. :nod:

literaturerocks
08-02-2006, 11:02 AM
i agree with pen.. i think it would not be a big enough deal to lose my job over..however if the situation got worse and worse i might think of telling someone.

same Q

Virgil
08-02-2006, 11:51 AM
Next poster: if you faced verbal abuse from a client and your superiors knew about it, but asked you not to take action against said client due to religious reasons, would you respect their wishes or would you report the harassment to a governmental agency?
What I would do is verbally abuse him back. I don't understand why I would be restrained because of religious reasons. :confused: I could understand if the company did not want to make waves with a client for busness reasons, but religious? Nonetheless, I may not report him, but I would have my say.

same Q

ktd222
08-03-2006, 04:30 AM
I would put the anger/depression in a deep dark place and let time turn it into a diamond, then I would take that diamond and throw it at the person who caused me this pain.

Same question

edit: sorry, I'm responded to the wrong question.

Same question:

if you faced verbal abuse from a client and your superiors knew about it, but asked you not to take action against said client due to religious reasons, would you respect their wishes or would you report the harassment to a governmental agency?

mono
08-05-2006, 02:58 AM
I would probably not go directly to a government agency, but I would not hesitate to file some sort of complaint. That my 'superiors' would attempt to prohibit me from making a complaint I would see as an unnecessary restriction from my own rights as an individual, rather than a mere employee, or a reciprocal 'inferior.'

To the person below me: if a person physically or mentally abused you, but did not seriously or critically harm you, yet if the offender seemed obviously not 'in their right mind,' would you still take lawful action?

Virgil
08-05-2006, 09:31 AM
I would put the anger/depression in a deep dark place and let time turn it into a diamond, then I would take that diamond and throw it at the person who caused me this pain.

:lol: Why doesn't that surprise me about you? ;)

Virgil
08-05-2006, 09:33 AM
To the person below me: if a person physically or mentally abused you, but did not seriously or critically harm you, yet if the offender seemed obviously not 'in their right mind,' would you still take lawful action?
Yes, becuase on must stop this person from doing it again, or progressing to another level. At a minimum this person needs help, but more importantly one must prevent other victums.

Same Q

Pendragon
08-05-2006, 09:47 AM
These things may start at a "no harm really done" level, but if the person doesn't get help they can rapidly progress till it's too late. I'd have to get help for this person.

A note here: You all may recall Ted Bundy, one of the most notorious serial killers America ever had. While his body count was piling up on the mountains, he worked a suicide hotline, and saved many lives by talking people out of killing themselves. When captured for the final time, he told police: "I have a problem. You know what it is. It used to hit me every now & then. Then it was every month, then every week, then every day. Now it hits me ever couple of hours." That should sober anyone!

However, I will pass the question. Others want to input here. It's a important question.

Originally Posted by mono
To the person below me: if a person physically or mentally abused you, but did not seriously or critically harm you, yet if the offender seemed obviously not 'in their right mind,' would you still take lawful action?

mono
08-05-2006, 02:52 PM
I suppose it would depend mostly on how hurt/offended I felt. In order to protect others, I would likely take some minor lawful action, but without the intention of the person going to prison, or anything.

To the person below me: if you lived in an apartment complex, and some friendly (but loud) neighbors kept making very loud noise nearby, would you likely speak to them yourself, or issue a complaint to a manager?

Pendragon
08-06-2006, 09:37 AM
I have that problem now, and I usually don't get involved. Others here are not so passive and will call the law anyway, so I'm not getting into a domestic argument. However, I do watch carefully, because of children. It would only take one time for me to see them harm a child and they would have me in their face, with phone already dailed to the law! I won't stand idle with a child in danger. Social Services have not seen fit to remove the children, and I've never seen them harmed in any way. To the contrary, the usual thing is a dispute outside the home, where all the neighbors have to see and hear. But harm those innocent children and, well, I won't stand for it.

Would you step between someone who obviously cannot defend themselves and a person bent on harming them?

RobinHood3000
08-06-2006, 10:02 AM
Unless it's an unarmed burglar and "arrest" qualifies as harm, I think so.

Same question!

mono
08-06-2006, 02:05 PM
Hmmm, good question, but it really depends on the harmer and the person threatened by harm. If you all saw me, you would realize that I appear far from an intimidating figure, standing a mere 5'6'' (about 1.68 meters) and weigh about 120 lbs. (about 55 kg.). I would likely attempt to take some sort of action, but how physical I would get depends mostly on how vulnerable the victim seems.

To the person below me: same question --

Would you step between someone who obviously cannot defend themselves and a person bent on harming them?

Virgil
08-06-2006, 05:17 PM
Hmmm, good question, but it really depends on the harmer and the person threatened by harm. If you all saw me, you would realize that I appear far from an intimidating figure, standing a mere 5'6'' (about 1.68 meters) and weigh about 120 lbs. (about 55 kg.). I would likely attempt to take some sort of action, but how physical I would get depends mostly on how vulnerable the victim seems.

I think that's the wisest course of action, no matter how big you are.

Wow Mono, you're pretty thin. I'm the same hieght but weigh over 50 lbs more. I need to lose weight!! :nod:

Same Q

kilted exile
08-06-2006, 10:20 PM
Yes, generally without hesitation. The gaelic blood at times gets a little warm. I have found that half of dealing with those kind of situations i knowing the exact wording to use to get the person to have second thoughts about what I might do to them if they act on their intentions. Dealing with people who would hurt those that cant defend themselves can usually be settled without smacking them in the head, however..........


Same Q

Adelheid
08-07-2006, 05:04 AM
I don't know about that... I may not. I don't think I would dare, but I'd probably yell for help at the top of my voice. :) If the person's really desperate I might, but I can't really say until that it happens (I hope it doesn't!!) Sorry for such a wishy-washy answer, but the truth is I really don't know. :goof:

Same question. Very interesting.

Madhuri
08-07-2006, 06:01 AM
If to step between, is what my instinct tells me, I will. That would be a moment for quick action and not about thinking this or that.

Same question.

Shakira
08-07-2006, 08:17 AM
I have done that quite a few times when I see a pickpocket trying to rob an old person in a bus.

Same ques.

Pendragon
08-08-2006, 10:22 AM
Back to me. I am a large man, and to people who don't know me, I can seem intimidating. Truth is, I wouldn't harm a fly. But I have stepped between people and harm all my life, even, Mono, when I was six feet tall and weighed 130, and looked more like Incabod Crane. The last time that this happened, I read death in the man's eyes and I knew he could crush me like an egg. But the poor man he was after was totally incapable of any defense. I could not let it go. I didn't know what would happen. I had seen the angry guy bench-press more than I weigh. I asked him to back off. He told me that he respected me, and for that reason only he would. But he made it clear that if the other guy crossed him again, nothing would stop him. He was consequently locked up. In every instance that I have stepped between people and someone who wanted to harm them, I have never had to resort to violence of any type. And that's what they usually say is their reason for backing off-- respect.

I want the question to still continue a bit, if no one minds. Originally Posted by Pendragon
Would you step between someone who obviously cannot defend themselves and a person bent on harming them?

Hyacinth Girl
08-08-2006, 01:27 PM
I would, as I wish someone had done the same for me. I'm not physically intimidating, but I would still use my brain and all my abilities to try and prevent an incident.

Next poster: same question

Jay
08-08-2006, 02:33 PM
I'd like to think that I would but don't know, depends on circumstances.

same question

AimusSage
08-08-2006, 02:45 PM
Depends whether the aggressor has a gun or other form of weapon, I maybe daft, but I'm not stupid, and I rather prefer staying alive.

Stayin' alive.
Stayin' alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha,
Stayin' alive.
(by the beegees) :D

Would you jump into a river when you are standing on a bridge, just for the fun of it?

Jay
08-08-2006, 02:47 PM
No.

Would you if you didn't know how deep it was?

AimusSage
08-08-2006, 03:05 PM
No, If I know how deep it is I still wouldn't, unless I knew it was deep enough, and there didn't happen to be a big ship under the bridge. Even then, I'd only do it on an average bridge, not a really big bridge.

Would you cry FREEDOM when you are being disembowled?

Jay
08-08-2006, 03:13 PM
I ain't Mel Gibson, so no.

Would you want to be in Mel's shackles while being disembowled?

AimusSage
08-08-2006, 03:25 PM
Nah, I prefer to do the disembowling myself.

Would you drive a firetruck to the river and play cops and robbers with it?

Jay
08-08-2006, 03:54 PM
Cops and robbers with a firetruck? Like play the robber and steal the truck and have some cops chase me all around the brindge? No, firetrucks are too heavy for a proper chase :cool:

Would you bungee off a bridge?

AimusSage
08-08-2006, 04:06 PM
Sure, but it had better be a high bridge, and the bungee has to be of the correct length.

Would you do something out of the ordinary in an ordinary situation to make the situation a bit less ordinary?

Jay
08-08-2006, 04:32 PM
That depends on the ordinary situation, too vague :p

Would you now?

AimusSage
08-08-2006, 04:35 PM
I'm a little out of the ordinary, except when I'm in an ordinary situation, that's when I become a very ordinary person, so I don't do anything out of the ordinary to make ordinary situations a little less ordinary, but it all depends on what is ordinary.

would you describe what you think is an ordinary situation?

Jay
08-08-2006, 04:52 PM
Nope :p

Would you prefer to indulge in being present at ordinary situations or the less ordinary ones?

AimusSage
08-08-2006, 04:55 PM
dunno, less ordinary sounds a little less ordinary, so I think the less ordinary isn't so ordinary, and as such more interesting then the ordinary situations.

Would you go to the top of the mountain, place a stick in the ground, and climb down again?

Pendragon
08-09-2006, 10:56 AM
You mean like on Mount Everest, the old, "Just because it's there." sort of thing? No. I've climbed the tallest mountain in our state, but not because it's there. I love nature. There are animals and plants up there that exist nowhere else. I'm glad to have seen them. What is there to see on Everest except snow and ice? I'm sure the thrill of standing on the top of the world is exhilarating, but you snap a few pictures and get down from there before you freeze off various parts of your anatomy. Me for the nature, to tack a deer for a close-up picture, actually hold a lizard or snake, see wildflowers that a very rare. That's my idea of a mountain climb. And there's rock faces for the danger minded.

Would you hold a (non-poisonous) snake?

mono
08-09-2006, 11:14 AM
Indeed, and I have before. Having cousins in the countryside, and seeming like a curious child, I had all sorts of daring experiences with animals; and I visited the Portland Zoo quite a bit, too, where they would have showcases of certain animals.

To the person below me: if you suddenly earned or inherited a very large sum of money (more than you would ever need), would you flaunt much with what you have and spend lots (such as purchasing a mansion, for example), or purchase what more seems needed, and store the rest of the finances?

Jean-Baptiste
08-09-2006, 04:41 PM
I'd buy a 1964 Lincoln Continental with suicide doors and a 460 engine. Then I'd throw the rest of the money in the trunk for buying gasoline.

Would you cash in your wimpy paycheck for a train ticket to Churchill, Manatoba to see the Polar Bear migration?

mono
08-11-2006, 11:51 AM
I would probably want to purchase other things before making such a trip, especially paying for necessities like rent, electricity, groceries, etc., but it sounds fun! :nod:

To the person below me: would you consider yourself more assertive, passive, or aggressive, especially while solving problems?

Virgil
08-11-2006, 01:14 PM
To the person below me: would you consider yourself more assertive, passive, or aggressive, especially while solving problems?
I'm not sure i understand exactly what you mean while solving problems. I guess it depends on the problem and how confident I am of what I think is the solution. Let me say assertive, which I guess is more than passive and less than agrresive.

Same Q

Jean-Baptiste
08-11-2006, 03:18 PM
While passive and agrgessive seem to me to deal with attitudes toward other people in a situation, assertive may simply be a state of direction toward the problem at hand, and as most of the problems that I personally come across are of a solitary nature I would have to choose assertive.

Would you combine a piece of precious metal or other valuable element with another element whose nature is corrosive to that of the first, just to see it sizzle?

melancolia
08-11-2006, 03:32 PM
YES! with protective eyewear if necessary.

Would you listen to the someone you truly love, if he said he did not want any friends at all (including you) ?

Jean-Baptiste
08-11-2006, 03:52 PM
Listen and believe, that's what I'd do. Supreme selfishness can often exist in the midst of love.

Would you believe, and make it evident that you believe in shadow monsters on the street, if it were in your (monitarily speaking) best interest?

Kelly_Sprout
08-11-2006, 04:12 PM
Yes, even if it weren't monitary or even if it weren't in my best interest, because there ARE shadow monsters in the street. They are agile, fast, strong and I carry wooden stakes in my car and garlic cloves on my person. So far, this has been enough protection, but it may not always be. My vigilance and awareness of the shadow world is the only thing that keeps me safe.



Q: A small town in California hosts an annual Banana Slug contest. This celebration involves dishes that include Banana Slugs as one of the ingredients. Would you eat anything if you were to attend this festival?

Pendragon
08-11-2006, 04:25 PM
NO THANKS! I did eat escargot, not bad, but banana slug? I pass!

How about the fried tarantulas they dish out down in the tropics?

papayahed
08-11-2006, 04:30 PM
I'd give it a whirl.

Would you buy a particular cereal just to get the prize inside?

adilyoussef
08-11-2006, 05:44 PM
No!

Would you waist your money to impress somebody you love?

Virgil
08-11-2006, 09:00 PM
No, too many germs.


Would you go hungry for a day to make a point.

Jean-Baptiste
08-11-2006, 10:18 PM
Sure, I'm going hungry for this day, and any point made will just be a bonus.

Would you welcome an assembly of well respected English professors with a well written speech about "Ezra Pound, author of the Declaration of Independence," for a gag?

Virgil
08-11-2006, 10:22 PM
It depends if the professors are friends and would appreciate the joke. Otherwise no.

Would go in a hot tub at a hotel in your underwear if you forgot your bathing suit?

Jean-Baptiste
08-11-2006, 11:06 PM
Certainly not! Modesty above all. And I'm too skinny for hot tubs anyway.

Would you walk three miles for the beverage of your choice, if you had to walk?

Shalot
08-11-2006, 11:15 PM
It would depend on how thirsty I was.

And in answer to Virgil's would you: It would depend on who else is at the hotel and how well I knew those people and whether or not they had a camera. And if I were wearing white underwear (which are see-through when wet) I probably would NOT go in if the hot-tub if other people were there. And all of this could change if alcohol were to come into play.

If I were alone, the color of my underwear would not matter, and I probably would go in the hot tub no matter what (provided that the hot tub is clean looking and there are no wads of gum or other icky things on the bottom of it).


(I was preparing this reply to Virgil's and was too slow to post apparently, but since I spent all the time typing I thought I'd just go ahead and post it anyway).

Would you tell a coworker that you found his/her body odor offensive? Suppose your coworker comes to work every day with funky smells coming out of every crack and crevice and doesn't seem to be aware of the problem. Would you say something or would take a more subtle approach, such as putting your hand over your nose when this person speaks to you or spraying perfume and Glade in his/her general direction? If you told this person about it, it could really hurt his/her feelings. What would you do?

thingamajig
08-12-2006, 02:09 AM
I'll speak to him/her in private and tell them about the situation. If he/she is angry at me at least it will save him/her further embarrassment

Would you...
If there was a little kitten on the ledge of a twenty storey building. Would you go to the top and rescue it???

AimusSage
08-12-2006, 04:29 AM
Why? I'm sure it isn't there to kill itself. It is probably just trying to enjoy the view before climbing down again.

Would you take orders from an idiot if he was your superior?

Madhuri
08-12-2006, 06:01 AM
Yes, have done that quite a lot of times. Although, I dont like people ordering me.

Would you favour someone at work jus' because he/she is your friend, eventhough you know what they did was wrong???

aeroport
08-12-2006, 10:55 AM
No.

Would you hate your friend if he or she failed to do this for you?

Pendragon
08-13-2006, 10:28 AM
If I put a friend in that situtation, I am no friend. :nod:

Pass the question.

Chava
08-13-2006, 12:39 PM
I would do no such thing!

Would you oblige, if the army called you to service?

kilted exile
08-13-2006, 01:33 PM
This would be totally dependent on the reason I was being called up & is hard to answer with the restriction on discussion of current politics. If my country was being invaded I'd be there, if however it was a war more to do with the ideological philosophy of the government, or for economic reasons, I would be remaining a CO. Luckily military service is not a pre-requisite in my homeland, I do have however friends who have served & serve currently one who lost his hearing due to an explosion in Bosnia, and another who is currently in Afgahnistan.


Would you go to jail for your beliefs?

Chava
08-13-2006, 01:47 PM
I would

Would you risk your life for your beliefs?

kilted exile
08-13-2006, 01:50 PM
no, I'll admit it I'm a coward. As much as I like to think I would I know I would break.

Same q

Chava
08-13-2006, 01:52 PM
I lack the zeal, and i am no extremist.

Would you travel to an unknown country to do volunteer work?

kilted exile
08-13-2006, 01:58 PM
At this point in my life no. I have college debts to repay before I can afford to be a volunteer. I have in the past considered going to developing countries and assisting them with water treatment/Clean well programs


Would you accept a standardized wage for all professions?

thevintagepiper
08-13-2006, 02:01 PM
Hmmm...I don't know. In some places it could be good, on others, not so.


Would you risk your life for your beliefs?
To me, nothing is worth believing if you wouldn't give your life for it.

Same ques: Would you accept a standardized wage for all professions?

Chava
08-13-2006, 02:10 PM
sigh..isn't this political? Yes, i would. but that's because i belive that people should do the work they wish to do, and so ito me it doesn't really matter that i'm getting as much money as someone with less education and experience.
Seriously, i love my job, and till now i've been doing it for half the amount of my collegues, because of my age. I honestly didn't mind!

Same question.

AimusSage
08-13-2006, 04:56 PM
No I would not accept a standardized wage for all professions. I will not go into it further, since it would possibly get a wee bit political.

Would you free dolphins caugt in a net?

Virgil
08-13-2006, 08:42 PM
Yes I would.




Would you accept a standardized wage for all professions?
No. I consider this an injustice (why should a street cleaner make the same as a doctor?) and in the long run detrimental to improving society (why should anyone become a doctor if you get the same pay as a street cleaner?).

Same Q

Jean-Baptiste
08-13-2006, 09:39 PM
I might be willing to have an Intraprofessional standard imposed. That is, all doctors make the same wage, and all street cleaners make the same wage--but for the most part I agree with you, Virgil.

Would you pick up a hitch-hiker?

Virgil
08-13-2006, 10:01 PM
I might be willing to have an Intraprofessional standard imposed. That is, all doctors make the same wage, and all street cleaners make the same wage--but for the most part I agree with you, Virgil.

Well, that's unjust too. A good doctor makes the same as a mediocre or crapy doctor?



Would you pick up a hitch-hiker?
No. It's not a wise thing to do.

Same Q

ktd222
08-14-2006, 01:04 AM
Sure I would....NOT!

Would you ever consider doing the Macarena Dance?

Kelly_Sprout
08-14-2006, 01:17 AM
I'd rather pick up a hitchhiker!

Do you strive to eat a balanced diet at every meal?

Jean-Baptiste
08-14-2006, 04:09 PM
I just had a fish sandwich, and later I'll eat some peanuts, so no.

Would you gamble on a fishing tournament?

Pendragon
08-14-2006, 05:31 PM
A fishing tournament is a gamble! :lol:

Would you laugh at another person's misfortunes and then feel bad about it?

Jean-Baptiste
08-14-2006, 09:59 PM
Yes. Well, feeling bad about it would depend on how well I knew that person with misfortune. For a friend, I would not feel bad; my friends and I sit around and have laugh fests at each other's misfortunes, all in fun of course. For a stranger the thought that maybe they really did not deserve any such thing to befall them would creep into my mind, and then I'd feel bad.

Would you bath in a freezing river if you were in the wilderness for a couple of days all alone, just to stay clean? A non-dangerous-current river, of course.

Kelly_Sprout
08-14-2006, 10:53 PM
I would, and I have many times. Not just cold rivers, either, but snow-melt rivers in the Sierra Nevada of California. "Invigorating" is the word I'm supposed to use, but it is an inaccurate word. Perhaps "Cardiac paddles" would be closer to the truth. The real trick is to have soap-on-a-rope because your fingers turn blue and cannot hold the soap in less than a minute's time and you certainly don't want to go diving for something more slippery than a live trout and half as small! But for all the dread of the bath, the warmth of drying afterwards is pure bliss. If you should ever try it, and you're far away enough from strangers, or confident enough about your body, taking your time to dress, perhaps laying on a towel for awhile to improve your tan, is certainly part of the luxury of bathing in the wild.

Would you bathe your mother or father if they were incapacitated or senile and unable to attend to their own hygiene? Would you do it if the one you had to bathe was the opposite gender from you?

Virgil
08-15-2006, 08:18 AM
No I could not do that for either of my parents. I would have to hire someone.

Same Q.

Madhuri
08-15-2006, 08:45 AM
I have done that for my mother and grandmother. Yes, if need be I would.

Same question.

Pendragon
08-15-2006, 10:13 AM
My mother raised the three of us with no help from my dad on hard labor with her hands. I would do anything for her that she required. http://www.industreal.spb.ru/smiles/heart.gifhttp://www.industreal.spb.ru/smiles/heart.gif

Pass the question.

Jean-Baptiste
08-15-2006, 04:15 PM
I used to have a job doing such things for others, so I suppose it would be only an extra step to bathing my parents, but I would prefer to hire someone else.

Would you leave a two dollar bicycle behind and start walking if it had a flat tire, or would you take it home and fix it?

RobinHood3000
08-15-2006, 07:19 PM
A bicycle with a flat tire is just a unicycle with some disassembly required. :D

Same question.

adilyoussef
08-15-2006, 08:06 PM
I wouldn't be so foolish to do so. Take it.

Would you do something dangerous to please a child? ( I know it's strange as a question)

Jean-Baptiste
08-15-2006, 09:21 PM
What, like jump from three stories? Ok. If, that is, the child is worth pleasing and has a good laugh, but some children don't show that they're pleased in a very pleasing way, or they have a very shrieky laugh--that would make me regret a broken leg. But sometimes the only way to test a child's laugh is by performing a dangerous stunt--so yes.

Would you sit through ten John Waters films in a row to please a person that you fancied? (Assuming, of course, that John Waters' films are lousy.)

Stanislaw
08-15-2006, 09:26 PM
What, like jump from three stories? Ok. If, that is, the child is worth pleasing and has a good laugh, but some children don't show that they're pleased in a very pleasing way, or they have a very shrieky laugh--that would make me regret a broken leg. But sometimes the only way to test a child's laugh is by performing a dangerous stunt--so yes.

Would you sit through ten John Waters films in a row to please a person that you fancied? (Assuming, of course, that John Waters' films are lousy.)
Well...yes, and infact I have done similar. :D

Would you accept a tiny bribe, say 2.00, even though it is against your companys policy?

Jean-Baptiste
08-15-2006, 09:59 PM
For a two dollar bribe, I wouldn't bother to be bribed. However, for a large bribe I would object for the sake of consciencious integrity. Therefore, theoretically, there should be a sum of cash which I would deem high enough to be worthy of accepting and low enough to be morally inconsequential. Unfortunately, pinpointing that precise amount on the basis of individual circumstance would entail far too much brainpower for a relatively silly situation. All of which precludes to a personal policy of no bribe taking.

Would you apologize if you accidentally told your professor/boss not to talk back, or would you hide your embarrassment and pretend that he or she thought is was funny?

Chava
08-16-2006, 02:04 PM
Hmm... I would most likely appologise if it were an outburst, but i wouldn't if i felt the person in question had a serious problem with disrespect. Fair enough they're in a position of authority, but still... Anyway, my boss doesn't mind, but i have had a rather nasty experience with a previous english teacher.

mono
08-17-2006, 05:09 PM
For me, I think it really depends on what would cost me such embarrassment or offense. Usually, I can seem like a rather passive, quiet person, but if I felt too offended or hurt, I would certainly say something, yet in a professional, unblaming manner.

To the person below me: would you provide support to a loved family member (such as a sister, brother, daughter, son, or even mother or father) if he/she chose to choose a homosexual lifestyle? :brow:

AimusSage
08-17-2006, 05:20 PM
Maybe, I mean, it's fine if they are homosexual, I'm not going to treat them differently for something like that, which to me really isn't that big of a deal. I'm not going out of my way to defend their choice or whatever, They receive exactly the same treatment I'd give them if they where hetero sexual.

Would you go to a far away place completely cut off from civilization, and live the rest of your life one with nature if you had the chance?

Jean-Baptiste
08-17-2006, 10:10 PM
In the past I definitely looked for that chance, but then I decided to stop looking, and now I like society too much to do more than visit wilderness. I might still consider following in Thoreau's footseps for a couple of years and a couple of months and a couple of days, but not for the rest of my life.

If you had a treasure map (to a very massive treasure) that contained clues written in Sanscrit, would you bother to learn Sanscrit.

Pendragon
08-18-2006, 10:54 AM
Why not? Might be a facinating experience, even if the map is a fake!!

If you found out that your friend whom you have known for the past 25 years, and who has always been a model citizen, is a escaped convict they have been hunting for all that time, would you turn him in or figure that he must have learned his lesson and changed?

mono
08-18-2006, 12:02 PM
Hmmm, interesting question. I suppose I consider myself a very 'face the music,' deontological (Kant) type, but I would not force him back to prison. Of course, I would wonder if he had changed for the better, but would clearly communicate that he should turn himself in, in my opinion, leaving the final choice to him.

To the person below me: same question. ;)

Madhuri
08-18-2006, 12:20 PM
Why not? Might be a facinating experience, even if the map is a fake!!



Sanskrit has words with 10-15 or even more alphabets. Learning it would be interesting, I am sure!

To answer the question: Publicly, I would defend the person but personally I might want them to change, but asking them to surrender would not be possible for me.

Same question.

Jean-Baptiste
08-18-2006, 10:21 PM
I like to think that I choose my friends very carefully, so if it turned out one of them was a fugitive I would have to take into consideration the virtues that I witnessed in them that were deciding factors in starting a friendship, so I would hesitate to think ill of them in the present, no matter the charge of the past. However, being the upstanding person that I know her or him to be now, I would encourage my friend to stand up, while giving my assurance of support.

Would you cause a distraction so that someone could get away from the police, if you agreed with the actions that caused the person to be pursued, even if you became the pursued?

mono
08-20-2006, 11:23 AM
Hmmm, tough question, but if there seemed less risk of my ending up as the pursued, then yes, I would, so long as I agreed with the pursued. I would not endanger myself, however - self-preservation before sticking up for a friend. :D

To the person below me: would you ever attend a carnival that had a history of several accidents with their equipment, but have had none in recent years, due to 'improved' equipment? :eek:

Virgil
08-21-2006, 09:10 PM
I never ride those rides anyway. Ever. I get moton sicknss and have thrown up after riding them. So no.

But same Q.

literaturerocks
08-21-2006, 09:58 PM
i too get motion sickness so no


lets be supposititious here...if you were a good natured kind all around just good person (and to my knowledge everyone here is:)) would you, if life got so tough do a bad thing? or do you think there are just good and bad people

(i thought about this after seeing this situation in a recent movie i watched :))

Kelly_Sprout
08-21-2006, 10:50 PM
Everyone is capable of great depths of evil, and everyone is capable of surprising splashes of good. If the hidden thoughts that I guard from everyone and the buried angers that I've managed to submerge and control so far were to ever be known or shown, I have no doubt that I would be locked up, yet, I am a good man. I have not committed the deeds but I know that I could have. Likewise, I have known personally some of the most violent criminals, many of whom will die in prison. I have sat beside them inside those prison walls, discussing ordinary things about freedom, about prison life, about coping and growing and living. I have listened to them talk about families, and regrets, and commiting their crimes, and I have to say, they are no different than you or I. They are neither bent on evil nor insane, for the most part. Some are hardened and unremorseful, but by far the huge majority suffer in remorse more than they suffer in their punishments.

I went into this environment young, and green, and foolish, and arrogantly feeling superior. I left it with a completely different perspective about myself, my values, my perceptions about other people, and my opinion about my own opinions. I no longer believe in absolute good or absolute evil. I believe in absolute immersion in good or evil; that it is possible to focus one's life and attention in such ways; but I think that most people blunder blindly about their daily lives, never realizing that they have the kind of power to shape their own destinies by the casual choices they make concerning good and evil. Ultimately, I believe that most people want to be good but not everyone has the strength or courage or awareness to make it happen.

Same question, especially if you feel differently than I do and would like to compare and contrast.

thevintagepiper
08-22-2006, 11:41 AM
No, I would not. Christ does not allow me to, nor would I have any real desire to, even if I were starving.

If your true love wanted to have twelve children, would you still marry them?

Pendragon
08-22-2006, 12:01 PM
If true love is really "true", there comes a time when you sit down together, talk things out, and each considers the others feelings. Then if one partner cannot conceive (no pun intended) the idea of twelve children, there comes a meeting of the minds and a compromise. In true love, one does not wish to harm the other. "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man should lay down his life for a friend." If you have true love, you could not bear to hurt the other, so you will find common ground.

I leave the question for the next sage to ponder. http://www.invision.smileyville.net/smilies/angel1.gif

thevintagepiper
08-22-2006, 01:40 PM
I would...and I would agree to the 12 children as well, though at the moment I hope for just two or three....but that's a long way away for me!

How many children would you like to have, if you already have or own familr or plan to?

AimusSage
08-22-2006, 01:46 PM
Zero, less if it were possible. If you ask that question again in 20 years, I'll still say zero, but I might have one or a few :eek2: :D

Okay, Same Question, because I've gone mad with subtropical solar withdrawal syndrome, and one of the symptoms is the inability to think of questions:

The Question is:
How many children would you like to have, if you already have or own family or plan to?

RobinHood3000
08-22-2006, 01:56 PM
Aimus got cabin fever?

At least 2; an only child existence strikes me as being awfully lonely.

How many desk references do you own?

Hyacinth Girl
08-22-2006, 02:48 PM
Ummm . . .zero.

Would you ever quit buying physical books entirely and only read e-texts?

Chava
08-22-2006, 03:23 PM
No, never, don't ask me to, i shall defy you! Nothing, NOTHING beats "The Book"!

Therefore, same question, if you dare...

Virgil
08-22-2006, 03:45 PM
I agree. Nothing beats a book. I seem to have the inability to concentrate on a computer screen for more than a few sentences. Sort of like attention deficit disorder. I call it VADD, visual attention deficit disorder. I read a few sentences and then my hand automatically starts scrolling down the page skimming or skipping everything else. Does this happen to others? Remember I'm older and did not grow up with computers.

same Q

RobinHood3000
08-22-2006, 03:45 PM
If I did, what on earth would I do during blackouts??

Same question.

AimusSage
08-22-2006, 04:54 PM
No, not readily. I might stop buying books made of paper if a viable digital alternative becomes available at a decent price that can mimic reading a book, something like a tablet on which I can read two pages, just like a book, and can skip ahead and back as much as I like. It'll still take some getting used to. I know the several technologies that can do this exists, or are being experimented with, but it needs to be improved upon. It will certainly be a great tool for vacation or travelling. Just bring the tablet, download whatever books you like on it, and read away.

Same Q, still suffering from the same Syndrome.
Would you ever quit buying physical books entirely and only read e-texts?

thevintagepiper
08-23-2006, 03:42 AM
No...while other means of reading may be helpful, I would be very unhappy if actual books were unavailable.

Do you generally buy or borrow books?

Virgil
08-23-2006, 06:58 AM
I buy. Borrowing, which requires returning and mindful caring of someone else's property, can be a hassle.

Same Q.

Pendragon
08-23-2006, 09:06 AM
I buy. If I want the book, I keep it.

Same question.

Kelly_Sprout
08-23-2006, 11:42 AM
I borrow... I am a big Library user. At $20 - $30 a pop for hardbound books -- which are the only kind worth placing in a private library -- I can't afford to build a private library. Besides when you move, the library and the kitchen dishes are the two heaviest items to box and move. I can't do without the kitchen dishes, but there is no particular reason to destroy my back with books that I read once but probably won't read again.

"Won't read them again?" you cry with dismay. "Why ever in the world not? I re-read mine many times!" Well, if I'm re-reading a book, I'm not reading a new one, now am I?



Would you choose between one of your children over another in a life-or-death crisis or risk losing them both by trying to save them both?

Chava
08-23-2006, 03:25 PM
I have no idea. I hope it will never happen, and i will never know untill it does.

Would you?

Virgil
08-23-2006, 03:32 PM
Horrible question. It should remain unanswered.

Would you show how heartbroken you are at work if you did not get a promotion or would you act like it was no big deal?

RobinHood3000
08-23-2006, 04:31 PM
No big deal, I should think -- heartbreak is not something meant to be public, and besides, I should doubt I was the only one hoping for it.

Same question.

Jean-Baptiste
08-23-2006, 11:15 PM
I would assume that I was favored with nonpromotion and maintaining my current level of responsibility. I would ignore the idea of promotion being a statement or estimate of value.

Would you reject a "promotion" that meant you were to be placed in a hazardous situation at considerably increased pay?

RobinHood3000
08-23-2006, 11:24 PM
Probably; if I wanted to risk my life for large sums of money, I'd have become a daredevil.

Same question -- it's an intriguing one.

Hyacinth Girl
08-25-2006, 12:11 PM
Risking my life isn't exactly my style, and if I died before enjoying the extra money, what would have been the point?

If you knew your actions were going to disappoint someone you loved/admired/respected, would you try to cover it up, gambling that it might never be found out, and live with the fear of discovery, or would you come clean and get the shame over right away?

Jean-Baptiste
08-25-2006, 03:07 PM
Get it over right away. I have made a very scientific study of this sort of situation, first covering up, which was a a very disappointing way to live, then coming clean before right away. I say get it all out in the open and build whatever sort of relationship you're going for on solid ground.

Would you buy a product that you don't necessarily want, just because the commercial for it was exceptionally clever or funny? I know this is basically a question of suseptibility to marketing, but let's pretend there's more to it than that.

Virgil
08-25-2006, 03:10 PM
No, and no one does. The point of comercials being funny or clever is so that when you need their product you will remember their company.

OK, same Q

Hyacinth Girl
08-25-2006, 03:11 PM
No, but I am definitely going to buy the product with the witty ads versus the alternative if it's something I want/need. (I'm thinking the iDon't ads as a case in point)

Along similar lines: would you give money to a homeless person/panhandler who has a funny sign rather than the usual "will work for food", "stranded and hungry" , "god bless, anything helps", "homeless vet" variety?

Pendragon
08-26-2006, 10:35 AM
I'll give to a panhandler depending on the person's demeanor, regardless of their sign. If they are truly in need and appreciate what ever I hand them (I'll start with a one dollar bill), then they may be surprised to find that I'll give them more. But if their reaction to that one dollar bill is basically "Wow! That's really reaching deep, big spender!" I figure that's all they need. They are out to get what they can get. http://www.industreal.spb.ru/smiles/hat.gif

Next person's analysis.

Madhuri
08-26-2006, 10:49 AM
I would not, if I see that the person has fine legs, hands, and air in his/her lungs and appears perfectly healthy. I would like to believe that the person wants everything for free (here we dont have people carrying such signs), and is looking for an easy way out. But if that is not the case, and they apparently look needy, then I would ( I can only go by their looks, as I would not have anyother way to determine if they are in need or not).

I have seen that people stand with their injured kids (either bleeding or having anyother ailment) and ask for money, which they never spend on the kids treatment, as if after a few weeks you pass again from that area, they are still standing with the injured babies, eventhough they can get free treatment from hospitals, they just take it as a means of earning living.

Next person:

In a supermarket have you ever been tempted to slip a small little thing into your bag??

Virgil
08-26-2006, 02:38 PM
.

Next person:

In a supermarket have you ever been tempted to slip a small little thing into your bag??

When I was about thirteen I did (a candybar) and forever feel ashamed of it. I would never do that again.

same Q

TEND
08-26-2006, 02:51 PM
I actually did that, than I felt bad and as my mom was paying I slipped it back onto the shelf, I think I must have been 8 or 9.

Same Q.

mono
08-26-2006, 07:41 PM
In a supermarket have you ever been tempted to slip a small little thing into your bag??
In my less financially-stable days, yes, but I never did, not only fearing the potential consequences, but it merely felt wrong, too.

To the person below me: what would you consider your best feature and worst feature (whether physical or psychological)?

Jean-Baptiste
08-26-2006, 10:54 PM
I'm told that I'm critical, but I remain undecided as to whether that's a point for, or against me. ;) So perhaps that's my best and worst feature. I do make a great effort to avoid being picky.

same question.

AimusSage
08-27-2006, 04:47 AM
Physical: I don't have a worst feature, I'm the best all around
Psychological: I'm somewhat narcissistic. ;)

Ok, now for the somewhat more serious answer: I think my worst physical feature is my jaw, and my best feature are my eyes. But I don't really attach much value to all of that, I'm happy with my jawline as I am with my eyes. It's a silly thing to be concerned about appearance.
Psychologically, my worst feature is that I can be very cocky sometimes, being somewhat demeaning to other people. I can even annoy myself with it. But it helps being aware of it, so I can prevent it. My best feature would be my awareness of what other people feel and think, I'm a pretty decent mind reader, so to speak. :D

Okay, Same Question, I think it's a funny question.
what would you consider your best feature and worst feature (whether physical or psychological)?

Pendragon
08-27-2006, 11:00 AM
I'm told that I have a soothing voice, and that I always seem to know what to say. News to me, since I don't see it that way, at least the second part! ;) I have a good sense of humor, usually.

That's all folks!
Next person, please.

mono
08-28-2006, 01:19 AM
Physical: not to sound narcissistic, but others have told me I have beautiful eyes; in terms of worst - probably my kneecaps. :lol: As random as it sounds, due to my slender figure, they appear to protrude.
Psychological: my best feature (from others' reports, though I beg to differ) - the not-the-best and not-the-worst ability to think analytically and holistically. My worst - scattered moodswings.

To the person below me: if you could take a photograph of one person/place/thing before permanently separating from it, what would you photograph?

Jean-Baptiste
08-30-2006, 10:13 PM
I'm not the best for remembering to carry a camera; I've climbed tall mountains and traveled the perimeter of the continent relying on my visual memory. I took pictures of my twelve guitars before I sold them all, and pictures of the guitars that I built before I gave them away. Now I would take a picture of my desert before I move; it is a lovely place, for a wasteland.

same question

ktd222
08-31-2006, 07:22 AM
probably my finger, for i would longer be able to reply to you all.

same q

papayahed
09-01-2006, 03:51 PM
Probably Grandma's house, of course I'd have to go back in time since it's no longer there.

If you could only wear a shade of one color for the rest of your days which color would it be?

RobinHood3000
09-01-2006, 03:53 PM
Lincoln green, of course!

Same question!

Shalot
09-01-2006, 09:28 PM
Black

Same Question

Chava
09-03-2006, 07:00 AM
Shades of khaki ochre brown :)

Would you "forget" about homework and "just" read all weekend?

adilyoussef
09-03-2006, 09:36 AM
I'd not be at ease if I do so.

Would you get married with a person if you only meet him/her for a short time but you feel that you are really in love with or not?

Chava
09-03-2006, 09:42 AM
I doubt it... I think that a lot of maritial conflicts can be avoided if you know each other first.

Would you?

mono
09-03-2006, 02:29 PM
Probably not. Of course, I will not doubt any feelings of love for someone an individual hardly knows, but one ought to wait for that 'honeymoon' period to pass, and see how he/she feels.

To the person below me: inspired by some television show my younger brother watches, would you ever face your worst fear for a large sum of money?

Virgil
09-03-2006, 04:48 PM
I'm not sure what my worst fear is, probably the life or death of a family member. Under that scenario, definitely not.

same Q

Jean-Baptiste
09-03-2006, 10:44 PM
If I'm allowed to assume the identity of the show that you mention, I would not think it too big a task to face any number of fear inspiring things; as for my personal biggest fear, were I to actually know what that is (I've had glimpses of true fear, but am unsure of the reality that it represents) I don't think I would be so bold, as it must be something that could actually crush me psychologically.

same Q

aeroport
09-04-2006, 03:08 AM
I do not know if my greatest fear is a world lacking reason, where individuals have no means of seeing eye-to-eye with each other, or waking up in a bed crawling with tarantulas. I would not face either for any sum.

Would you become involved, - intimately - following the death of a friend, with the person who had been the very closest friend to the deceased during her life, when your primary opportunity to grow better acquainted with the friend in question was in your service to her as a consoling fellow-mourner? This is kind of a delicate question to word for me, but the great point I am asking here is whether you feel you would be doing a disservice to the memory of the dead in accepting what might be a future of happiness which would not, in all likelihood, have presented itself were it not for the death of your mutual friend.

Pendragon
09-04-2006, 12:00 PM
Myself, probably not. However, my grandfather did this, and had a very good relationship. I would say it's a very personal call, and no one else's business.

Pass the question to someone else. Maybe get a few other views.

Sarka
09-04-2006, 12:36 PM
It really depends. It's kind of sketchy how it'll turn out when the sole basis of your relationship is comforting each other. It could work, though. I don't think it would be doing a disservice to the person's memory, both parties having been close friends of the deceased. It's touchy, and it would have to be approached really carefully so as not to step on anybody, but I personally don't think there's anything wrong with it. It's only something I would attempt if I really majorly cared for the deceased's best friend, but if that is the case... I guess so. As I said, it's touchy....

Same question, methinks.

Virgil
09-04-2006, 12:41 PM
I don't think it's a disservice. I might not plan on it, but if it evolved to a relationship i don't see why that would be wrong.

Same Q.

Jean-Baptiste
09-04-2006, 10:38 PM
Relationships can be started on all sorts of common ground, so as long as there is some form of unanimity, and not some sort of one-sided seduction taking place, the death of the mutual friend should play a minor role.

Would you allow differences in religious perspective to determine who you may and may not date?

aeroport
09-04-2006, 10:46 PM
Depending on the depth of the person's "religious perspective", I think this would affect their typical everyday behavior in such a way that it would be clear to me whether I would be, in such a situation, comfortable or not. That is to say, their religion itself would not directly effect my decision, but its effect on their ordinary, practical life probably would.

Same question.

Boris239
09-04-2006, 11:25 PM
It's not an easy question. I certainly wouldn't be able to have a serious relationship with a girl who is extremely religious- partly because of my atheistical views, partly because of my sarcastic character. There is also some pressure from my parents, who don't say anything, but certainly don't hide what kind of girl they would like to see me date.

Same question

Nightshade
09-05-2006, 05:50 AM
Yes, because Ive seen what happeneds when people of strongly differant religous views marry and have kids, its bad enough being the child of 2 differant cultures without adding 2 differant religons into the mix as well, its just not fair. Also religous views color the way you see "dating2 I know it does mine anyway so what would be the point?

its an interesting q so same q

AimusSage
09-05-2006, 05:59 AM
It does influence me yes, but ultimately religion is not what determines who I will date, If I'm attracted to someone, I am not going to let religion stop me from dating her, but I might not get beyond a few dates. It's hard to say really, because someones religion is not always obvious, and I'm not going to ask someone for their religion when I ask them out on a date.

And I could ramble on about this for ages, but I think I got my point accross.

Same Q. because it is interesting, and I'm too stupid to think of a better one.

Madhuri
09-05-2006, 01:23 PM
I dont think religion would come in my deciding whether to go on a date or not. I believe it is just one of the ways a person has decided to live their life and that they have all the right to practice it, so far as me getting influenced by their religion, would not happen, which means that if they ask me to do something specific to their religion I would not mind. I would be more interested in how the person is in their daily lives, their behaviour, their nature, I guess religion is something that a person may not be practicing day in and day out. But yes, I agree that the boy and the girl have to be a bit neutral or liberal on religious aspect and mutually accept each other, if they are fanatics or staunch believers and not ready to give space, then it may lead to problems. Only liberal views would help the relation survive. I believe I am neutral and live and let live would be my stance, and I think my relation would continue if the guy has similar beliefs (whether of the same religion or not) :)

Same question.

Virgil
09-05-2006, 03:36 PM
Well, I married a Jewish girl and I'm Roman Catholic. Neither of us is extremely religious but neither are atheists either. We accomodate each other around the holidays.

Very good question. Same Q.

mono
09-06-2006, 12:55 AM
Would you allow differences in religious perspective to determine who you may and may not date?
I would not let religious-spiritual differences interfere only as long as they did not interfere greatly with our interaction. I have dated (and have had serious relationships) with women of greatly different beliefs from my own, yet what made us compatible? Reverence, reverence, reverence for others' beliefs, and we only debated out of mere sarcasm.
No one's religion would ever offend me, even if I disagreed with her faith, only as long as I do not hear constant, consistent preaching, debates, etc.

To the person below me: along the same lines, would you (or would your family or friends) ever object to you dating an individual of a different race?

Chava
09-06-2006, 01:00 AM
no, i come from a liberal family, i've grown up internationally, "different races" are a completely integrated part of my life.
However, there is reason why one might be sceptical. Recently the danish government will throw you out if your a foreigner, so if i should, say, study abroad, fall in love with someone and we got married, and had children. I would not be allowed to bring them back home... Not really a pleasent situation, which namely students and academics are becoming trapped by.

If this were the situation, would you just forget about your own country, and stay with your loved one, never being able to return?

aeroport
09-06-2006, 01:25 AM
Probably, at least until said country removed its head from its rectal cavity and decided to carry on like normal again. (That was sarcasm. I am sure the Danes have some reason for such measures.)

Pendragon
09-06-2006, 12:10 PM
Since Jamesian didn't give another question, I assume we're still on the same one. When I grew up in the 60's and 70's, Civil Rights were a big issue in the South. I'm Southern. But in my small town, race was what we did around the block on our cobbled-together bikes. I knew many bi-racial kids. And had I fallen in love with a woman of another race, family objections or not, I would have stayed by her even if it meant another country. I don't tell my kids who to date. They make up their own mind.

Do you feel stereotyping of people still goes on to extremes?

Chava
09-06-2006, 04:21 PM
Jamesian: Probably, at least until said country removed its head from its rectal cavity and decided to carry on like normal again. (That was sarcasm. I am sure the Danes have some reason for such measures.) :p Yes, chronical xenophobia. In fact it was suggested by a rightwing hostillity, that we should close our borders to sweden and norway, so that when their societies collapsed as a result of imigration, they couldn't flee into our country... sometimes you really have to wonder...
:rolleyes:


Thus in answer to Pen's question, yes i'm very sure it does, the second biggest party in denmark has managed to portray all imigrants as terrorists, so we can no longer marry foreigners and remain danish... (It's a new Bedlam, someone save me please!)

How do you think racial discrimination could be "ended"?

AimusSage
09-08-2006, 06:17 AM
"ended", sounds very wrong. ;)

But to be honest I don't know how exactly, racial discrimination is based on fear, so the only way to end it is to take away the fear. I do not know how it is possible to take away the fear. It is possible to take part of it away, but to remove it entirely is difficult to say the least.

Ofcourse I can get all political on this question, but I'm not.

Would you do the one thing you know you cannot do, knowing you will fail?

Virgil
09-08-2006, 09:52 AM
Sure. Many times I take up a fight/argument knowing that I will lose. Sometimes I find you eventually win by initially losing. I can't think of a real example off the top of my head, but sometimes if you make a good enough case (I'm thinking about work here) but still whoever decides can't help you now (for possibly lots of reasons) he may come back and help you later or make up for it in another way. Fighting the good fight in a respectful way and excepting losing earns recognition.

Same Q.

Jean-Baptiste
09-08-2006, 10:15 PM
Yes, I would pursue my design, though it be destined for failure. Along the lines of Virgil's comment, I reasoned for myself some time ago that the true winner of any argument is actually the loser in the conventional sense; they have succeeded in becoming fully acquainted to a new perspective. The difficult part, of course, is drawing the line at being actually lead astray, when you know that your original perspective was true. Anyway, yes, I would make an attempt to exert my will in whatever direction that satisfied my fancy, and bask in the subsequent failure.

Would you do all in your power to "lose" an argument?