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Nightshade
11-28-2006, 04:12 PM
hey cool a soap on the litnet?!:brow: seems a bit Dynasty at the moment but good except where are the shoulder pads people??
:lol:

kathycf
11-28-2006, 10:38 PM
Shoulder pads and big ol' hair. Gosh, the 80's were great. :p

Schokokeks
11-29-2006, 08:47 AM
But I'll have a spot of Earl Grey, if you don't mind, and Cookie (hope you don't mind the nickname, Schokokeks, m'dear!), would you pass that tray of tempting biscuts? Jolly nice day, is it not? :)

Of course, I don't mind being called Cookie, Uncle Pen :). I like the nick, Kathy ! And I won't ever again confuse you with a muffin, I promise :p.

Here you go ! *gets up to present the cookie tray to Uncle Pen, asking for a cup of Earl Grey (yummie!) in exchange :)*

Pendragon
11-29-2006, 11:01 AM
Thank you, m'dear Cookie! I have this horrible way of nicknaming people and then getting them stuck with it, so I ask now. Some have been stuck with one of my nickname's and are still known by them 30 years later! :lol:

Shannanigan
11-29-2006, 11:08 AM
I've got a caffeine headache...any other Coca-Cola addicts in here? :p

miss tenderness
11-29-2006, 06:17 PM
God knows how much I missed the ladies chit chatting!

Shalot
11-29-2006, 10:46 PM
I was wondering does coffee flavoured pepsi count as coffee???



Where would I find coffee flavored Pepsi? I am curious but not sure if I would like the taste of it? Is it good?

I've had coke black and it wasn't so great: (or rather coke blak)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n25/Shalot_bucket/coke-black.jpg

kathycf
11-30-2006, 12:55 AM
Coke is Coke and coffee is coffee and I don't know if they should meet. At first it sounded good, but then I thought it might just be too sweet. I like Diet Coke better than Coke anyway because regular soda just tastes too syrupy. Maybe I will try it when they come out with Diet Coke blak.

Nightshade
11-30-2006, 04:09 AM
yes but Coke zero is better :nod:
no coffee flavoured pepsi is revolting unfortunattly it also appears to be highly addictive....

Schokokeks
11-30-2006, 06:38 AM
Some have been stuck with one of my nickname's and are still known by them 30 years later! :lol:
I'd feel honoured to ! :nod:

Coffee -and- coke ? Wow, you're all very daring as to your taste buds! The normal coffee and the normal coke taste on their own both suffice to make me sick. And the only chocolate that I really can't stand is coffee flavoured one...

Pendragon
11-30-2006, 10:03 AM
I'd feel honoured to ! :nod:

Coffee -and- coke ? Wow, you're all very daring as to your taste buds! The normal coffee and the normal coke taste on their own both suffice to make me sick. And the only chocolate that I really can't stand is coffee flavoured one... Now why did I know you'd say something like that, Cookie? ;)

If you think Coffee flavored chocolate is bad, try coffee flavored hard candy, or as a friend used to say "Cold Nescafe". http://www.invision.smileyville.net/smilies/badtaste (9).gif

kathycf
11-30-2006, 03:17 PM
Nooooo! Those are great! My nana got me hooked on them as a kid. You just have to remember to brush your teeth after because they are sort of sticky.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/coffee_nips.jpg

Schokokeks
11-30-2006, 03:36 PM
Now why did I know you'd say something like that, Cookie? ;)
Because you are well aware that I happen to like you dearly ? ;)


If you think Coffee flavored chocolate is bad, try coffee flavored hard candy, or as a friend used to say "Cold Nescafe". http://www.invision.smileyville.net/smilies/badtaste (9).gif

Uaa ! *shudders* If ever I get those for Christmas, I'll mail them over to you, Kathy ! ;)

kathycf
11-30-2006, 03:39 PM
Uaa ! *shudders* If ever I get those for Christmas, I'll mail them over to you, Kathy ! ;)
3 cheers for Cookie! :)

Shalot
11-30-2006, 09:58 PM
Nips are okay --- coke blak is not so much.

Madhuri
12-01-2006, 02:11 AM
Some view points.........




If a man wants you, nothing can keep him away. If he doesn't want you, nothing can make him stay.


Stop making excuses for a man and his behavior.


Allow your intuition (or spirit) to save you from heartache.


Stop trying to change yourself for a relationship that's not meant to be.


Slower is better. Never live your life for a man before you find what makes you truly happy.


If a relationship ends because the man was not treating you as you deserve then heck no, you can't "be friends".


A friend wouldn't mistreat a friend. Don't settle.


If you feel like he is stringing you along, then he probably is. Don't stay because you think "it will get better.” You’ll be mad at yourself a year later for staying when things are not better.


The only person you can control in a relationship is you.


Avoid men who've got a bunch of children by a bunch of different women. He didn't marry them when he got them pregnant, why would he treat you any differently?


Always have your own set of friends separate from his.


Maintain boundaries in how a guy treats you. If something bothers you, speak up.


Never let a man know everything.* He will use it against you later.


You cannot change a man's behavior.* Change comes from within.


Don't EVER make him feel he is more important than you are... even if he has more education or in a better job.


Do not make him into a quasi-god. He is a man, nothing more nothing less. Never let a man define who you are.


Never borrow someone else's man. If he cheated with you, he'll cheat on you.


A man will only treat you the way you ALLOW him to treat you.


All men are NOT dogs.


You should not be the one doing all the bending...compromise is two way street.


You need time to heal between relationships...there is nothing cute about baggage... deal with your issues before pursuing a new relationship.


You should never look for someone to COMPLETE you...a relationship consists of two WHOLE individuals...look for someone complimentary...not supplementary.


Dating is fun...even if he doesn't turn out to be Mr. Right.


Make him miss you sometimes...when a man always know where you are, and you're always readily available to him - he takes it for granted.


Never move into his mother's house.


Never co-sign for a man.


Don't fully commit to a man who doesn't give you everything that you need.* Keep him in your radar but get to know others.

thevintagepiper
12-01-2006, 04:21 AM
Where would I find coffee flavored Pepsi? I am curious but not sure if I would like the taste of it? Is it good?

I've had coke black and it wasn't so great: (or rather coke blak)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n25/Shalot_bucket/coke-black.jpg

mmm what flavor is Coke Blak? It looks...interesting!!

kathycf
12-01-2006, 01:38 PM
I like your quote Maddie, some very sage advice.

Vintage, Coke Blak is a combination of Coke and coffee. Whether that is a good or bad thing depends on your point of view. ;)

So, here is a trivial question for the ladies. If you are going on a trip and only have room to pack 2 beauty related items what would you bring? My vote is for sunblock and lip balm.

Nightshade
12-01-2006, 03:02 PM
Never move into his mother's house.
.

even I know that one:nod:

Pendragon
12-01-2006, 03:35 PM
Slightly revised

With my most sincere apologies, Maddie! ;)

· If a woman wants you, don’t expect her to tell you. If she doesn't want you, trust me, you’ll be the first to know!.

· Stop making excuses for a man and his behavior, you’re too busy explaining your own!

· Allow your intuition (or spirit) to save you from heartache. (Un-huh. The same intuition that causes a woman to say when SHE calls the law over a domestic dispute and is obviously injured, “Don’t lock him up. He didn’t mean it. I love him.” Better get your intuitions checked and dump the jerk!)

· Why are you trying to change yourself for a relationship that's not working, for crying out loud?

· Slower is better. Never give anything to anyone you can’t get back before you find what makes you truly happy.

· If a relationship ends, then let it END. No, you can't "be friends". That’s a disaster waiting to happen!

· A friend wouldn't mistreat a friend. Darn right! Friends do “pressure” friends either.

· If you feel like he/she is stringing you along, then he/she probably is. (Boy, there’s a revelation from on High! Next you’ll notice he/she likes you for your body!)

· The only person you can control in a relationship is you. (Ever heard of “hormones”?)

· Avoid men who've got a bunch of children by a bunch of different women. Or women with a string of kids by different fathers. RED FLAG!)

· Always have your own set of friends separate from his. (And a tip. If he/she finds his/her friends more interesting than you, drop him/her like a hot potato!)

· Maintain boundaries in how a guy treats you. If something bothers you, speak up. (Preferably loud enough to attract the Police.) (And men, if something about the girl bothers you, make an exit on any excuse!)

· Never let a man know everything.* He will use it against you later. (Oh, yeah, like a woman wouldn’t! Ever heard the hit song Girls Lie Too?)

· You cannot change a man's behavior.* Change comes from within. (His wallet. You’ll never change his ways. Or hers either, for that matter!)

· Don't EVER make him feel he is more important than you are... even if he has more education or in a better job. (A good point. Equal rights and all. Heck, tell him you can open your own darn door!)

· Do not make him into a quasi-god. He will do that on his own. Never let a man define who you are. You know you are a Goddess!

· Never borrow someone else's man. If he cheated with you, he'll cheat on you. (And vice-versa,)

· A man will only treat you the way you ALLOW him to treat you. (And if you don’t allow him, he probably will find someone who will. And a woman who wants to be treated like cut glass will eventually find a man who is willing to do so. There are men who will be a doormat for a woman to walk on as well.)

· All men are NOT dogs. (They have ran with the pack at some time or other, however. All women are not frigid, either, but they have some experience with the old cold shoulder.)

· Compromise is a two way street, with “one way” signs pointing toward each other.

· You need time to heal between relationships...there is nothing cute about baggage... deal with your issues before pursuing a new relationship. (I.E. Men or women: your next date doesn’t want to be your crying towel!)

· You should never look for someone to COMPLETE you...a relationship consists of two WHOLE individuals (I.E. Dating is a means to an end, and that is a relationship, not a one-night stand!)

· Dating is fun...(I take it you have never been shot down in front of others before…).

· Make him miss you sometimes...when a man always know where you are, and you're always readily available to him - he takes it for granted. (He doesn’t take it for granted, girl, he OWNS you! Get out before it’s two darn late. Same for a man. If she’s got to know your every move, scram!)

· Never move into his mother's house. (Unless you are married and then only VERY BRIEFLY. No house was made for two families.)

· Never co-sign for a man. (Or anyone is my word on that!)

· Don't fully commit to a man who doesn't give you everything that you need.* Keep him in your radar but get to know others. (FOO! Drop him and move on. If he doesn’t get the picture pretty quick, he never will. Same for a girl. If every time you have a date she is invariably late, quarrelsome, or on the phone and hangs up quickly, drop her. She is still fishing, and you aren’t quite what she wants.) :p

Nightshade
12-01-2006, 03:48 PM
bravo now I have this wonderful advice but no use for it. :(
Ahhh Im never going to do the dating thing but it suddenly occurred to me if I dont get married within the next 7 years thats it Im on the shelf Ill end up all alone :eek2: and Ill never have anyone to fuss over when Im 60 ! :bawling:


breeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeathe
ok brief hormonal panic induced by being in the comany of too many girls who have just hit there 20s is over......
phew :D

kathycf
12-01-2006, 04:03 PM
bravo now I have this wonderful advice but no use for it. :(
Ahhh Im never going to do the dating thing but it suddenly occurred to me if I dont get married within the next 7 years thats it Im on the shelf Ill end up all alone :eek2: and Ill never have anyone to fuss over when Im 60 ! :bawling:


breeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeathe
ok brief hormonal panic induced by being in the comany of too many girls who have just hit there 20s is over......
phew :D
Nobody is on the shelf...sheesh. And you are what, 19 or 20 now? Guess what, 26 or 30 isn't exactly elderly. Get a grip, girl!

Oh, ok, I see you have. Hormonal panic, eh? Ooops, sorry. ;)

Nightshade
12-01-2006, 04:11 PM
well it is if you are an egyptian :nod: I mean cripes I had a guy ( selling me a ticket to get into the international book fair I didnt even know him or anything!) try and get me to talk to a matchmaker when I was 14 :eek2: course there she was yelling at the man all " what are you doing I dont even know who she is, she might be anybody" in the end I threw the money at the guy and ran...

Madhuri
12-01-2006, 11:07 PM
Interesting points, Pen. :nod:

Kathy -- I will keep some soap/facewash and a moisturiser.

Virgil
12-01-2006, 11:29 PM
Nooooo! Those are great! My nana got me hooked on them as a kid. You just have to remember to brush your teeth after because they are sort of sticky.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kathycf/coffee_nips.jpg

My mother eats them all the time too.

kathycf
12-02-2006, 01:19 AM
They are the only kind of hard candy I like.

Schokokeks
12-02-2006, 05:41 AM
Hmm, for your two items, Kathy, I'd pick mascara and a brush (I have nothing but bad-hair-days :p).

miss tenderness
12-02-2006, 01:25 PM
are we picking two stuff of cosmotics,if so >>>I always take a gloss and kohol or eyeliner:)



I really love make up,my speciality.

Laindessiel
12-02-2006, 02:07 PM
Seems like Miss T. is fond of painting her face! For me, I'd choose just the perfect foundation color for my skin tone, a natural-pink lip GLOSS (If matte lipsticks are the only available line of lipsticks in the world today, doesn't matter if I have deadly-looking lips on the verge of collapsing peeling anytime because I'd NEVER use it. Too dry and pale-looking.), a blusher-bronzer and a curlash. Those are it. I like my face to be as natural as they can be, only accentuating and flattering the areas that need it.

optimisticnad
12-02-2006, 02:14 PM
hello evwryone! heartbreaking that i created this thread and yet im never around to enjoy things! im just so so busy, xmas time is just mad for me, with uni and work! anyway just thought id say hi and see you all sometime in 2009. lol. x x

miss tenderness
12-02-2006, 02:19 PM
hello,opti,how was ur exam?
Gosh ! I really hate exams.

Virgil
12-02-2006, 03:33 PM
hello,opti,how was ur exam?
Gosh ! I really hate exams.

Yeah, but aren't you a teacher now? You must be giving lots of them. :D

Pendragon
12-02-2006, 03:41 PM
Interesting points, Pen. :nod:

They were mostly yours, Maddie dear, with just advice to men as well added. Only a few little digs, but not meant to be taken in a mean way. It isn't really in me to be mean, if anything, I apologize too much and that in and of itself becomes a nuciance to people! :p :)

Pendragon
12-02-2006, 03:44 PM
Hmm, for your two items, Kathy, I'd pick mascara and a brush (I have nothing but bad-hair-days :p).Hee-hee! Considering the rate at which my brother, (four years younger than myself) is losing his hair, the fact that I still have mine makes it a good-hair day! :lol:

miss tenderness
12-02-2006, 04:17 PM
Yeah, but aren't you a teacher now? You must be giving lots of them. :D

I do. now they do not bother me! what bothers me is putting them and then correcting them:lol: life goes. We used to be tesetd now we test!

Nightshade
12-02-2006, 04:56 PM
humm my herbal essences ( my one luxery) and deodrant.

:D

miss tenderness
12-03-2006, 10:33 AM
shampooo?I use it too.

mir
12-03-2006, 08:01 PM
hello,opti,how was ur exam?
Gosh ! I really hate exams.

*faint*

extreme agreement!!!!!!!

mine start friday . . . :cold:

miss tenderness
12-04-2006, 02:53 AM
good luck ,Mir. When I want to study I can't study without chips and choclates!

Shannanigan
12-04-2006, 09:47 AM
Hmmm....I don't wear makeup...

my exams start tommorow! :eek:

and I need chocolate! :D

Madhuri
12-07-2006, 01:39 PM
Here's another test -- How Boyish or Girlish are you??

Mine was --

***You Are 30% Boyish and 70% Girlish***

Even if you're not a girl, you're very feminine.
You're in touch with your feelings, and your heart rules you.
A bit of a emotional roller coaster, one moment you're up and the next you're down.
But no matter what, you try to be as cute and perky as possible.

How Boyish or Girlish Are You? (http://www.blogthings.com/howboyishorgirlishareyouquiz/)

grace86
12-07-2006, 02:55 PM
Maddie, I got the same as you.

My exams start next week :sick: My study must have's are chocolate, coca cola...and yeah, perhaps something salty. I tend to leave wrappers and crumbs all over my things though.

Hmm...my two most important things in regards to makeup...blush, and lip gloss probably. (But then thinking about my hairbrush and deoderant I might change that :p)

Pendragon
12-07-2006, 03:54 PM
I knew there was a reason why I fit in anound here ...:lol:

You Are 50% Boyish and 50% Girlish

You are pretty evenly split down the middle - a total eunuch.
Okay, kidding about the eunuch part. But you do get along with both sexes.
You reject traditional gender roles. However, you don't actively fight them.
You're just you. You don't try to be what people expect you to be.


And that's Uncle Pen! http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/tiere/c090.gif

grace86
12-07-2006, 04:03 PM
Aww Pen! You just understand people it seems to me. Your poetry is also very in touch with others and your own emotions. I'll bet you have a well balanced personality with both sexes. A people person!! :D

Misscaroline
12-07-2006, 04:03 PM
This is weird...

You Are 70% Boyish and 30% Girlish
You are pretty evenly split down the middle - a total eunuch.
Okay, kidding about the eunuch part. But you do get along with both sexes.
You reject traditional gender roles. However, you don't actively fight them.
You're just you. You don't try to be what people expect you to be.

Um... does that mean little old me is more masculine than Pen? I don't think so... What the heck is going on here?...

Shalot
12-07-2006, 11:05 PM
50% 50%

You are pretty evenly split down the middle - a total eunuch.
Okay, kidding about the eunuch part. But you do get along with both sexes.
You reject traditional gender roles. However, you don't actively fight them.
You're just you. You don't try to be what people expect you to be.

Nightshade
12-08-2006, 06:19 AM
same as maddie 30%boyish 70% girlish

but OMG perky :sick:

RobinHood3000
12-08-2006, 06:48 AM
This is weird...

You Are 70% Boyish and 30% Girlish
You are pretty evenly split down the middle - a total eunuch.
Okay, kidding about the eunuch part. But you do get along with both sexes.
You reject traditional gender roles. However, you don't actively fight them.
You're just you. You don't try to be what people expect you to be.

Um... does that mean little old me is more masculine than Pen? I don't think so... What the heck is going on here?...It sounds very you, Miss Caroline.

We need a nickname for you..."Misscaroline" is too long to time!

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 06:54 AM
Have I not signed off with MC enough to get the point of shortness across? Miss C or MC is dandy, thanks, unless you care to concoct yet another...

RobinHood3000
12-08-2006, 06:58 AM
I could, but I don't think it'd be appropriate to say in public. :blush:

dramasnot6
12-08-2006, 06:59 AM
yay! 50-50. It's nice to be gender neutral. No pressure.

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 07:00 AM
Sweet- whereas I think I'll go grab a beer and watch the game...

And Robin, don't tease! What is it? If not now, then you must tell me later!!!

RobinHood3000
12-08-2006, 07:02 AM
Well, I'd hoped that'd be an innuendo I wouldn't have to answer, but if I have to come up with one...ever heard that song "Itty-Bitty Pretty One"? :p

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 07:05 AM
Nyeh. You are a rotten little thing, you are! But that's what happens what happens when you bluff and I catch you. Note to Robin: Never play strip poker with MC...

RobinHood3000
12-08-2006, 07:10 AM
And why not? Wouldn't you like to see me suck at poker? :brow: Or would you prefer Twister?

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 07:13 AM
Ok, so no one is ever going to want to look at this forum ever again... I'll tell you my thoughts on it later...

dramasnot6
12-08-2006, 07:15 AM
:eek: *temporarily hides from thread*:p

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 07:16 AM
Sorry Drame! Do I need to digi-smack Robin for you? I still have the stick! ~brandishes sabre~ Well, sort of...

dramasnot6
12-08-2006, 07:28 AM
:lol: Naw, tis ok Miss C. I'm just feigning a prude:p You guys continue with whatever it was you were doing...ill head myself over to see how my new thread is doing....:D

dramasnot6
12-08-2006, 07:30 AM
:bawling: it's slowly dying *prepares thread gravestone*

mir
12-08-2006, 09:27 AM
hehe! i am an enuch! :D 50-50.

as for Robin and "MC" - do we need to get you guys a chaperone?? :lol:

Pendragon
12-08-2006, 10:50 AM
I'd volunteer, being a minister, but if they don't play "strip poker" (you couldn't get me in that game with a hot iron! I myself would be too embarassed!), but regular poker, deal me in! Haven't lost a game in some time. Some old habits die hard! :lol:

Virgil
12-08-2006, 11:07 AM
I guess that's right.

You Are 70% Boyish and 30% Girlish

You are pretty evenly split down the middle - a total eunuch.
Okay, kidding about the eunuch part. But you do get along with both sexes.
You reject traditional gender roles. However, you don't actively fight them.
You're just you. You don't try to be what people expect you to be.

How Boyish or Girlish Are You?

http://www.blogthings.com/howboyishorgirlishareyouquiz/

grace86
12-08-2006, 12:50 PM
Told you that you would need that stick MissC!

Laindessiel
12-08-2006, 01:24 PM
You Are 40% Boyish and 60% Girlish

You are pretty evenly split down the middle - a total eunuch.
Okay, kidding about the eunuch part. But you do get along with both sexes.
You reject traditional gender roles. However, you don't actively fight them.
You're just you. You don't try to be what people expect you to be.

Wohoho! What made them say that? Right smack into the truth! Never too girly, never too masculine. :banana:

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 02:43 PM
Pen: If ever we play a straight game, consider yourself dealt in. Do you prefer 5 Card, Hold 'Em, or something else? And you'll have to try hard to beat me- it's been a while since someone got me in poker too. I just like to play, but everyone seems to forget that I am not my haircolor...

Drame: Ignore Robin. I'll smack him when I get the chance. He really needs to learn what to say to me on a forum...

grace86: Oh, I miss you! I miss you all! But yes, I was happy for the stick. I still have a six foot pole to use, too, if I happen to need it...

mir: ...maybe... :blush:...

And Pen, I'd love it if you'd chaperone. It'd be just as much fun anyways...:angel:

grace86
12-08-2006, 02:48 PM
aww you miss me?! I was just looking for you!

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 03:00 PM
Well, I'm supposed to be cleaning, but I'lll be here every little while! Why were you looking for me?:confused:

grace86
12-08-2006, 03:02 PM
I sent my best friend a message...quite a few...and he won't talk to me :bawling:

ShoutGrace
12-08-2006, 03:08 PM
I sent my best friend a message...quite a few...and he won't talk to me :bawling:

Perhaps you should try using your "feminine charm." ;)

grace86
12-08-2006, 03:10 PM
Perhaps you should try using your "feminine charm." ;)

I think that's what perhaps screwed things up in the first place.

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 03:12 PM
Erm... then I don't know what to tell you. If you don't mind me asking, what happened? (No obligation to answer- but sometimes it helps to get a shoulder to lean on or advice. But we'll still love you if you tell silly lil MC to can it! I am sorry by the way... Is there anything I can do to make you feel better??)

ShoutGrace
12-08-2006, 03:13 PM
I think that's what perhaps screwed things up in the first place.

I think that you're thinking too much. :D What are the other possible reasons for this lack of communication?

grace86
12-08-2006, 03:19 PM
Well MC, just letting you know cuz you and I were discussing it yesterday and the day before I think...just letting you know how it turned out.

Hm, story, kinda long. Short (very very short) version goes like this: I've had guy best friend for six years. Fiancee doesn't like him, like an idiot I try to keep both best friend and fiancee...doesn't work. Umm, fiancee told me to not talk to best friend (which is a long story in itself) and after a series of events where I ignored best friend in presence of fiancee, best friend now ignoring me permanently....reciprocity.

grace86
12-08-2006, 03:20 PM
Erm... then I don't know what to tell you. If you don't mind me asking, what happened? (No obligation to answer- but sometimes it helps to get a shoulder to lean on or advice. But we'll still love you if you tell silly lil MC to can it! I am sorry by the way... Is there anything I can do to make you feel better??)

I just think the venting helps...can't be too emotional at work anyway.

ShoutGrace
12-08-2006, 03:25 PM
Hm, story, kinda long. Short (very very short) version goes like this: I've had guy best friend for six years. Fiancee doesn't like him, like an idiot I try to keep both best friend and fiancee...doesn't work. Umm, fiancee told me to not talk to best friend (which is a long story in itself) and after a series of events where I ignored best friend in presence of fiancee, best friend now ignoring me permanently....reciprocity.

(A) I think that fiancee needs to be smacked upside the head.

(B) I've had my share of unfortunate experiences on that front (i.e., girlfriends having "close" friends of the opposite gender), so I'm not a good source of information, I guess . . . I would immediately agree with the fiancee, but that is just because I've learned to be that way through experience.

(A) It isn't ever right to be rude or callous towards somebody, simply because they have been a good friend to you. Fiancee is being unreasonable, and his dictating of your actions is hurting someone who doesn't deserve it.

Of course, in an ideal world the one who you love and want to be with should be able to trust you, and not feel threatened.

But it's a less than ideal world.

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 03:31 PM
ShoutGrace, that ideal world makes you sound like a pessimist.

But I agree with ShoutGrace. It's ludicruous to ask you to give up a friend, and Fiancee should be more reasonable without grounds for his animosity. I also think that if you want to try and be friends again, you should, but be careful. The events sound rather tangled as it is. And I would also prescribe a minor thumping to knock some sense into Fiancee- grace86, you are a wonderufl person as far as I can tell, and there's no reason he should doubt you or your choices! Besides, your company is your company. Tell him to deal.

grace86
12-08-2006, 03:31 PM
This is truly a "girl's thread" conversation. :D Emotional distraught and all.

You make good points, but it would take forever to elaborate on some of the points that you mentioned. I can agree that it is very definitely not an ideal world.

Fiancee has grounds.

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 03:38 PM
Ah. That was what I was worried about. I just didn't want to accuse you of anything you didn't deserve...

...so how bad is it? :eek: I really want to help, but there is only so much I can do online...:bawling:

ShoutGrace
12-08-2006, 03:43 PM
ShoutGrace, that ideal world makes you sound like a pessimist.

How about realist? :D

Females are not always faithful, and as far as my experiences are concerned, I wish that I would have been more suspecting of other men. I can't help the fact that I agree with fiancee's motives - one of the reasons that I am single is the fact that I couldn't restrict a romantic interest's list of friends, and I very well might if I was in a relationship. Especially if "indiscretions" have already taken place.

grace86
12-08-2006, 03:46 PM
MC, lol, people can usually ask me anything. If I don't want to answer, I tell them to go away.

After a fight with my fiancee that I was telling my best friend about, he realized he had feelings for me.

He told me I shouldn't keep that from my fiancee. So I told him. Naturally my fiancee doesn't want me to talk to him. And I cannot hate my fiancee for that.

So, as mentioned before, I listened to my fiancee.

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 03:48 PM
Ah, so I was right in presuming that you didn't actually do anything wrong? Or is there more to the story?

Nightshade
12-08-2006, 03:48 PM
:eek:

thats all :eek2:

grace86
12-08-2006, 03:48 PM
Nope that's it. I'm a good girl!

grace86
12-08-2006, 03:49 PM
Well hello Night! Glad to see I've got you engrossed :D

Madhuri
12-08-2006, 03:51 PM
I listened to my fiancee.

sorry to interrupt...:p

I would say -- listen to yourself.....what does you heart says???

So far you have been listening to either your friend or fiancee, and I think they are trying to steer the way for you, telling you what to do....

friend -- tell your fiancee -- you do as he says
fiancee -- dont talk to him -- and again you do what he says....

where is your opinion or wish in here.....

EDIT -- since I dont know the whole story, so please ignore if this advise seems irrelevant....:D

Nightshade
12-08-2006, 03:52 PM
yes only I have no popcorn...

sorry its just since Ive never had a boyfriend type thing I fiiger to learn from other people

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 03:53 PM
Night's going to have an aneurysm! :p

Grace, you don't know how happy I am to know the story. Let me think... have you tried to make Fiancee realize that you wanted him to know the truth, but that you would never act on the knowledge of Friend's feelings? I think that would give it a start- put Fiancee back in line, since he wasn't exactly kosher in telling you what to do.
Next, is it Friend who has a problem not being friends? Or not being more than friends? If friend can accept being friends, then you three might be able to find some equilibrium... Or is Friend upset because you don't/won't reciprocate the feeling? That's an entire different thing...

And Madhuri, that is good advice. Grace, how DO you feel about all of this?

grace86
12-08-2006, 03:55 PM
Interruption okay! It is a girl issue is it not?! :p

What do I want? To not be so confused!!!!! Well, I wish I could go back to having both of them happily coexist, because that would make my existence a little less tense. :p I used to be able to have both. But it is clear I have to decide now. What I want is to know the right thing to do (don't worry, I am not asking for anyone to answer this for me :D )

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 03:58 PM
Wish granted- you will find out what to do, and it will be exactly what you wanted all along! (No bad side effects.)

grace86
12-08-2006, 04:02 PM
Night's going to have an aneurysm! :p

Grace, you don't know how happy I am to know the story. Let me think... have you tried to make Fiancee realize that you wanted him to know the truth, but that you would never act on the knowledge of Friend's feelings? I think that would give it a start- put Fiancee back in line, since he wasn't exactly kosher in telling you what to do.
Next, is it Friend who has a problem not being friends? Or not being more than friends? If friend can accept being friends, then you three might be able to find some equilibrium... Or is Friend upset because you don't/won't reciprocate the feeling? That's an entire different thing...

And Madhuri, that is good advice. Grace, how DO you feel about all of this?


Fiancee does realize I wouldn't act on any of that. He is just insecure because I really valued the friendship with my best friend. He thinks it would cause problems if things "went back to normal"

My best friend, in saying what he did, was only trying to be honest with me. Everything was honest between us. He was fine with the fact that I wouldn't return his sentiments, and I guess you could say - even moved on. He is just upset probably because he wants things to go back to normal.

(I should write a short story on all of this. I think I would have all female vote :p )

Nightshade
12-08-2006, 04:02 PM
Well excuse me but just a thought maybe if you dont feel the same as friend its probably best for him as well as for your current stress levels to just be cut off for a while.

Sorry I went to seeThe Holiday last night. :nod::rolleyes:

grace86
12-08-2006, 04:04 PM
Well excuse me but just a thought maybe if you dont feel the same as friend its probably best for him as well as for your current stress levels to just be cut off for a while.

Sorry I went to seeThe Holiday last night. :nod::rolleyes:

That's one of options I was thinking about.

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 04:06 PM
grace86, it sounds like you're getting to that ideal stage of knowing what to do. I hope we've helped a little. If you need to talk some more, I'll be back in a little while! Until then, may you be blessed with some unnamed power or simply by luck to head in the right direction!

<3 MC (I'll be back shortly...)

grace86
12-08-2006, 04:06 PM
Wish granted- you will find out what to do, and it will be exactly what you wanted all along! (No bad side effects.)

Why thank you!

grace86
12-08-2006, 04:07 PM
grace86, it sounds like you're getting to that ideal stage of knowing what to do. I hope we've helped a little. If you need to talk some more, I'll be back in a little while! Until then, may you be blessed with some unnamed power or simply by luck to head in the right direction!

<3 MC (I'll be back shortly...)

Yeah, I will be okay regardless...confusion is part of my daily habit. But it is time for lunch.

Virgil
12-08-2006, 04:16 PM
Well MC, just letting you know cuz you and I were discussing it yesterday and the day before I think...just letting you know how it turned out.

Hm, story, kinda long. Short (very very short) version goes like this: I've had guy best friend for six years. Fiancee doesn't like him, like an idiot I try to keep both best friend and fiancee...doesn't work. Umm, fiancee told me to not talk to best friend (which is a long story in itself) and after a series of events where I ignored best friend in presence of fiancee, best friend now ignoring me permanently....reciprocity.

Grace, just to add my two cents here. Without knowing the long version with all the details, I think you got a situation which is incompatible. I suspect you may have to choose here. I take it as a finacee you're going to get married. It's not easy for one spouse (and this applies to either sexes) to have his/her spouse be best friends with a person of the opposite sex. It might work out in some situations, but I think that's not the majority. The majority of times the suspicions and dynamics of the three relationships will undermine the marriage.

grace86
12-08-2006, 04:20 PM
Grace, just to add my two cents here. Without knowing the long version with all the details, I think you got a situation which is incompatible. I suspect you may have to choose here. I take it as a finacee you're going to get married. It's not easy for one spouse (and this applies to either sexes) to have his/her spouse be best friends with a person of the opposite sex. It might work out in some situations, but I think that's not the majority. The majority of times the suspicions and dynamics of the three relationships will undermine the marriage.

I know Virgil. And thank you. I do realize the situation as how you've mentioned and I think that's what makes it hard to grasp, is that I've always been able to have both, and now, it is a choice. But I will make a choice, and not torture the others involved in my attempts to make one. Things happen for a reason. Thanks again Virgil.

Virgil
12-08-2006, 04:24 PM
I know Virgil. And thank you. I do realize the situation as how you've mentioned and I think that's what makes it hard to grasp, is that I've always been able to have both, and now, it is a choice. But I will make a choice, and not torture the others involved in my attempts to make one. Things happen for a reason. Thanks again Virgil.

I don't think you're torturing us. I'm glad if I can help. I'm just sorry I had to deliver a somber opinion. :(

grace86
12-08-2006, 04:26 PM
I don't think you're torturing us. I'm glad if I can help. I'm just sorry I had to deliver a somber opinion. :(

I definitely don't want to torture any LitNet members, but what I was saying is that I have to make a decision without torturing my fiancee or my best friend - as that would just make things ugly.

Your somber opinion was fine. I am just not too used to being an open book online.

Pendragon
12-08-2006, 07:24 PM
Pen: If ever we play a straight game, consider yourself dealt in. Do you prefer 5 Card, Hold 'Em, or something else? And you'll have to try hard to beat me- it's been a while since someone got me in poker too. I just like to play, but everyone seems to forget that I am not my haircolor...

Drame: Ignore Robin. I'll smack him when I get the chance. He really needs to learn what to say to me on a forum...

grace86: Oh, I miss you! I miss you all! But yes, I was happy for the stick. I still have a six foot pole to use, too, if I happen to need it...

mir: ...maybe... :blush:...

And Pen, I'd love it if you'd chaperone. It'd be just as much fun anyways...:angel:My game is Texas Hold 'Em. I was always a bit of a comic, since I can keep a straight face while telling a crazy joke or outrageous lie, and I've played poker since I was about 15. I just quit gambling for money as a minister, playing just for fun. Robin might kick if I'd chaperone-- He's my kid brother, you know, he'd have to say "You ruin everything! Mind your own business!" :lol: :D http://www.invision.smileyville.net/smilies/cha (88).gif

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 07:30 PM
My game is Texas Hold 'Em. I was always a bit of a comic, since I can keep a straight face while telling a crazy joke or outrageous lie, and I've played poker since I was about 15. I just quit gambling for money as a minister, playing just for fun. Robin might kick if I'd chaperone-- He's my kid brother, you know, he'd have to say "You ruin everything! Mind your own business!" :lol: :D http://www.invision.smileyville.net/smilies/cha (88).gif

That's my core game, too, although I dabble alot. I teach anyone I can, usually with gummi bears or Skittles because they're too chicken that I'll take their money. My friends hate that they can never tell what I'm up to, and since I lay so few hands down, they can never tell what I might have! (I once struck even in one hand with a friend whom I owed money-- he never saw a straight flush coming!:blush: )
And Robin can kick all he wants- he gets to talk to me enough, and you'd be so much fun to have around!

dramasnot6
12-08-2006, 07:36 PM
Oh, i love poker. My grandpa taught me when i was 7 and every saturday night we would play for hours and hours using monopoly money. We also played Honeymoon Bridge and Rummy. Ah...good times...:D

mir
12-08-2006, 08:30 PM
i like poker too. i've only ever played once - had a Halloween party, with a couple friends; we ended up all sitting around the table after my parents had gone to bed, playing poker with Reeses cups and candy corn! :D my older brother taught us to play. he won everything - it turned out he had an amazing poker face! didn't tell us that BEFOREHAND, of course. :lol:

I've never played strip poker, though . . . it does sound . . . INTERESTING . . . :blush:

RobinHood3000
12-08-2006, 08:39 PM
A friend of mine and I were playing Hold 'Em - he had a 2-5, off-suit. Sonuvagun got a full house on the flop!!

Cheers, Pen, I'd be happy to have you around. In fact, the more the merrier. Somebody's got to stand watch whilst Caroline and I get acquainted...

Only kidding, Pen - I would never relegate you to the lookout position. You're far more fun to be around when we can talk to you.

Virgil
12-08-2006, 09:02 PM
Am I the only person who finds Texas holdem boring. I prefer seven card poker. But my friends and I play with wild cards. I also like criss cross poker.

dramasnot6
12-08-2006, 09:20 PM
Seven card is my favorite. More strategy involved. 5 card is a bit too short for me and is only good with a good amount of players, where as 7 card is great with just 2.

Misscaroline
12-08-2006, 09:51 PM
I do love to play, and I'll play any card game if you'll teach me-- it's something you pick up traveling as much as I seemed to as a kid. Cards pack easily. I agree that any form of poker is fun-- yes, Robin, even strip poker. ~digi-smacks Robin~ And Pen would never be the Sentry. He's too much fun, and I could use some competition. If it was strip, you'd lose on purpose, and where's the fun in that?

Pendragon
12-09-2006, 01:11 PM
Well, I think wild cards make it too easy to get a good hand. Like Robin was saying, you take a 2-5 off suit in Texas Hold 'Em, most people would toss that hand. But if you have a good poker face and dare to bet, you can convice someone to fold a King-Ace suited. And then you may flop that full house. And it is never over until the River Card. ;)

Laindessiel
12-09-2006, 01:43 PM
I don't know how poker goes about.

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Misscaroline
12-09-2006, 02:01 PM
Oh, Lain! I'd love to explain sometime!

In the meantime, yes it's luck and concealing what you have from the others. I tend to play the blonde who everyone thinks won't bluff it all. But I do. I'm as unpredictable in poker as in life, and that makes it all the more fun. :D I'll do anything for a good game and good opponents, though.
Hi Pen!:wave:Hi Lain!:wave:

TEND
12-09-2006, 02:37 PM
I agree with Pen, Hold Em' I find to be the most exciting/frustrating. That's usually our game of choice over here, but darn, that river card really gets to you sometimes.

Virgil
12-09-2006, 04:12 PM
As to the wild cards, I only play nickels, dimes, and quarters with friends for basically fun. No one is going to win or lose more than ten or twenty dollars. The wild cards are just to create more interest and keep people playing.

miss tenderness
12-10-2006, 01:16 AM
As to the wild cards, I only play nickels, dimes, and quarters with friends for basically fun. No one is going to win or lose more than ten or twenty dollars. The wild cards are just to create more interest and keep people playing.


oh yah,Virg??has anyone told you that this thread is for men babbling:D

Virgil
12-10-2006, 01:21 AM
Sorry. ...........:p

miss tenderness
12-10-2006, 01:42 AM
:D:Dyes! behave yourselves men! and take your chitchat to your thread<<<<a teacher:p

Madhuri
12-10-2006, 02:52 AM
:D:Dyes! behave yourselves men! and take your chitchat to your thread<<<<a teacher:p

Yes absolutely...:nod:

Dont you think that men are trying to hijack this thread, and they already have their own going.....How greedy men can be.....:rolleyes:

miss tenderness
12-10-2006, 04:27 AM
yes yes,Maddie.

they just can live without us:peven if u do not see some faces ,I assure that they silently drop by here.

dramasnot6
12-10-2006, 08:36 AM
at least our girltalk thread still goes untouched! :D:p

Misscaroline
12-10-2006, 09:42 AM
Sorry girls- that was mostly my fault, since I didn't shoo them off immediately. I just noticed alot of crossing over on your part into their thread too...

RobinHood3000
12-10-2006, 09:46 AM
Our takeover plan is working...

dramasnot6
12-10-2006, 09:48 AM
*cough* Take a look at the gender poll robin, youre outnumbered :p

Misscaroline
12-10-2006, 09:49 AM
And it won't work as long as I'm here and they tell me to bar the door! ~sabre in hand again~

RobinHood3000
12-10-2006, 09:51 AM
Sabre? Feh - doesn't have the range of a bow...or the effectiveness of a lightsabre. :cool:

Outnumbered means little more to me than a target-rich environment.

mir
12-10-2006, 09:53 AM
Here, Misscaroline. *hands illegally obtained user-banning big red button*

. . . you were saying, Robin? :D

dramasnot6
12-10-2006, 09:56 AM
:lol: As a female i feel so objectified now. I can just see my forehead adopting the shape of an archery target...but luckily we have a strategic and intellectual advantage :p

RobinHood3000
12-10-2006, 10:01 AM
~holds up the ultra-rare, custom-made Q-type batteries he emptied out of the big red button's remote~

YOU were saying?

Misscaroline
12-10-2006, 10:02 AM
Drame and mir are right, Robin. ~accepts big red button with many thanks~ Besides, my weapon wielding skills are nothing for my defense, even against a long bow... And don't even bother challenging me to hand to hand combat...

Misscaroline
12-10-2006, 10:02 AM
And I always have extra batteries! What do you take me for?:D

RobinHood3000
12-10-2006, 10:04 AM
Not if they're the only set in the world. As for the hand-to-hand...

...wanna wrestle? :brow:

Misscaroline
12-10-2006, 10:07 AM
I made another. Necessity is the mother of invention...

And I prefer actual combat. Prepared to be my new sparring partner?

RobinHood3000
12-10-2006, 10:12 AM
In the words of Green Arrow: "That'd be nice, too." :brow:

So, pretty bird, you ready?

Nightshade
12-10-2006, 10:15 AM
gah! You cant call her a bird :mad: out of this thread shoo *Picks up rolling pin and starts waving it about*
sorry but I just got an umbrella that says
"Im a lady not a bird" I hate it when girls are called bird :sick:

RobinHood3000
12-10-2006, 10:17 AM
'Twas a reference to Black Canary. :confused: Never heard just plain "bird" used before.

Misscaroline
12-10-2006, 10:22 AM
It's true Nightshade. Put the pin down. It's one of Robin's far too copious nicknames for me, and there was nothing derogatory about it.

Deal, Robin. You're on. But beware, I might break you...

dramasnot6
12-10-2006, 10:24 AM
50's sexism verses comicbook sweetheart, gotta love words :p

AimusSage
12-10-2006, 10:24 AM
bird is also british slang for girl. :) It's actually much better than all the other slang words, like chick etc. which are so overused it isn't funny anymore.

It is often used along these lines:

"Wow, look at those birds."

Also used when bird spotting. :D which is a different sport altogether from what you might think. :goof:

Not that it bothers me. In the summer, I love to sit down, get a drink and do some bird spotting. :nod: Nothing derogatory about that. I don't yell at the birds, that'll only scare them away.

Misscaroline
12-10-2006, 10:25 AM
Yes, and I face sexism head on! Deal with it, boys!

And yes, please don't yell at me. I won't get scared away, but the end result won't be pretty...

Nightshade
12-10-2006, 10:25 AM
Well bird, chick, duck, chuck Oh how I hate duck one of my sisters friends came to the library once ( hes older than her year he was in mine and Ill tell the truth that is I thought he was rather nice till he said chuck, or, duck or love or one of those annoying phrases I mean I do know nothing is meant by it but it still annoys me.

I get alot of 'Sister's as well becuase I cover my head and I always have to bite back the retort I AM not your sister I dont even know you.


~~~~end rant

Misscaroline
12-10-2006, 10:27 AM
~hugs Nightshade~ Tis alright. We still love you, duck or no.

mir
12-10-2006, 10:31 AM
and bird or no! :D

tell the truth, no matter how sexist, i still LOVE that nickname/euphemism/any way you use it! :p though i've never actually heard anyone use it before . . . :(

dramasnot6
12-10-2006, 10:45 AM
thats ok mir! ive only heard it from watching waaaay too many 50s movies/tv shows..*shudders*

and im sure youve heard it before and just havent realized! like...uh...birds and the bees example? at least i think the birds are the girls in that one...

Nightshade
12-10-2006, 10:51 AM
huh no actually the birds and bees are both guys in that one...its about pollination.

RobinHood3000
12-10-2006, 10:55 AM
~sings song, "I'm A Girl Watcher"...~

It seems rather insulting in a variety of ways to call a woman "broad."

AimusSage
12-10-2006, 10:56 AM
huh no actually the birds and bees are both guys in that one...its about pollination.
Yep the flowers are the girls. :nod: See Night, that is why the hugo boss for women smells like flowers. It's all based on nature. :p

Virgil
12-10-2006, 11:00 AM
Yep the flowers are the girls. :nod: See Night, that is why the hugo boss for women smells like flowers. It's all based on nature. :p

:lol: :lol: That is sooooo funny, Aimus. I'm still laughing. :lol: I'll have to tell that to the next girl who comes by wearing a lot of perfume.

Nightshade
12-10-2006, 11:03 AM
Still doesnt stop me from thinking boys perfumes- sorry clogune smells nicer than girls stuff, although I did find some nice smelling girls stuff yesterday but it was somthing like &#163;35 for 100ml and that was with 20% off.

Pendragon
12-10-2006, 11:57 AM
Sounds an awful lot like a plea for http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/flowers/041.gif http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/flowers/060.gif http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/flowers/045.gif , http://1000smilies.com/muslim.gif! ;)

dramasnot6
12-11-2006, 03:55 AM
:eek: Ok, that just added to my list of reasons not to wear perfume.
1) Not neccesary, showers and deoderant enough
2) Too much money for the decent stuff
3) It encourages "pollination" *shudders*

miss tenderness
12-11-2006, 05:14 AM
I'm a perfumes addict,Estee Lauder is my favorite. you gotta try Pleasure,I love it.

Pendragon
12-11-2006, 11:14 AM
DT, it looks like I will not be able to post that picture of me as Hobo Bo the clown. I've dug the house over looking for one, I know I have at least three, and I can't find any of them! If I didn't want to find them, they'd be right here on the computer desk! http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/boese/c025.gif

Whifflingpin
12-11-2006, 11:47 AM
"bird is also british slang for girl."

I think it's just a (happy) mis-spelling of the old English "burd" which mean a girl.
(Maybe "broad" also has the same derivation, when used to mean girl, or woman)

Oops, sorry gels, not really snooping on your conversations :blush: leaves quietly - stumbles over the mat :blush:

dramasnot6
12-11-2006, 07:01 PM
Youre perfectly welcome Whfflingpin! We already have so many guys infiltrating this thread anyway. And thank you for the lovely explanation of "bird", i feel a little less offended now :D :p

grace86
12-11-2006, 07:12 PM
Perfume...I always wear perfume. I think it is nice when my sweetie notices it. I wear two different perfumes, Maybe Baby by Benefit and Lucky.

Misscaroline
12-11-2006, 07:16 PM
No perfume for me for the most part- just water and pheromones... It seems to be working quite well, though...

dramasnot6
12-11-2006, 07:47 PM
DT, it looks like I will not be able to post that picture of me as Hobo Bo the clown. I've dug the house over looking for one, I know I have at least three, and I can't find any of them! If I didn't want to find them, they'd be right here on the computer desk! http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/boese/c025.gif

Im so sorry you couldnt find any Pen!

Poor Pen, in lack of a pic of his clown
It brings a tear to my eye to see his emoticon frown
So i went to dollcreator, in search of a red nose
And cross my fingers he'll like the clown ensemble i chose
For Pen is unlike a clown, despite his once role
He is very funny, many a chuckle he has stole
But clowns are only good for a laugh for a lil while
Where as our Pendragon leaves us forever with a smile
:D
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p231/dramasnot6/hobobodoll.jpg

Janine
12-11-2006, 11:17 PM
Wow, I came on here to get some coffee - just saw the word and reacted. I need coffee!!! :flare:
Anyway, I always get compliments when I wear Red Door by E Arden. I like Estee Lauder, too. White Linen is nice and Pleasures is lovely, miss tender.

kathycf
12-12-2006, 12:15 AM
I'm a perfumes addict,Estee Lauder is my favorite. you gotta try Pleasure,I love it.

Me too...I have about 35. :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: Well, I have heard variety is the spice of life...The problem is I like so many different scents, usually people stick to one type of fragrance (green, flowery, musk, spicy ect...) but I like them all. Coco by Chanel and China Rain by Body Time are two of my favorites.

mir
12-12-2006, 10:13 AM
What would be a good type of perfume? i've never really worn it before, or makeup, but they sound sort of fun. :)

btw, Kathy, i like your new avatar! :wave:

SleepyWitch
12-12-2006, 10:30 AM
hehe, I see the perfume discussion has been taken up in here... *how to confuse and old witch in three simple steps* :) you put me off the scent there in the guys thread :)

mir, about make-up, it all depends on a) whether you need to wear it at all and b) your type (complexion, hair colour, eyecolour)
a) is there anything you don't like about your skin, eyes, lips? or something that you like but would like to emphasise?

mir
12-12-2006, 11:13 AM
the perfume discussion is EVERYWHERE. :lol:

as for makeup, i really don't know. :) since i've never put it on before, i don't know whether i need it or not, or how it would look! mostly i'm not nuts about my face shape, but i guess i can't change that.

i would post a picture but i can't find any!! recent ones, anyways. the last one i have is from about 2 years ago! :p

Pendragon
12-12-2006, 11:25 AM
Im so sorry you couldnt find any Pen!

Poor Pen, in lack of a pic of his clown
It brings a tear to my eye to see his emoticon frown
So i went to dollcreator, in search of a red nose
And cross my fingers he'll like the clown ensemble i chose
For Pen is unlike a clown, despite his once role
He is very funny, many a chuckle he has stole
But clowns are only good for a laugh for a lil while
Where as our Pendragon leaves us forever with a smile
:D
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p231/dramasnot6/hobobodoll.jpgI love it, Drama! Beautiful poem and doll. I saved it to my computer. And I do have a doll of me in character that I made, forgot that: http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/AbsalomKane/HoboBo.gif That's as close as it gets! :)

Madhuri
12-15-2006, 11:54 AM
Nice, Pen. The tie definitely matches with your clothes ;) I like your multi-coloured hair.....:nod: and the nose is simple wonderful, just like a cherry on the cake...:lol:

dramasnot6
12-15-2006, 09:34 PM
Thats beautiful! The rainbow hair makes for a great touch :D

Shalot
12-15-2006, 10:00 PM
I'm a perfumes addict,Estee Lauder is my favorite. you gotta try Pleasure,I love it.


I too am a perfume addict and I do like Estee Lauder Pleasures. I knew two people who wore it and both got pregnant so I superstitiously stayed away from it and got Cool Water for women instead. And as it turns out, it wouldn't have mattered because I will probably never have kids anyway. Isn't it funny how life works out?

Virgil
12-15-2006, 11:51 PM
I too am a perfume addict and I do like Estee Lauder Pleasures. I knew two people who wore it and both got pregnant so I superstitiously stayed away from it and got Cool Water for women instead. And as it turns out, it wouldn't have mattered because I will probably never have kids anyway. Isn't it funny how life works out?

Well, if you think perfume might lead to pregnacy then why not just wear garlic? :D

You can put these under your shirt:

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/img/garlic.jpg

dramasnot6
12-16-2006, 10:20 AM
I feel so alone in my empty perfume cabinet :( Everyone here seems to love smelling excessively sweet....i guess i should attempt to conform and pick some scent up for Christmas.....lucky i have all these reccomendations now.:)

Niamh
12-16-2006, 10:27 AM
Here is another recommendation for you Drame. Hypnotic Poison by Dior. My boyfriend loves it.

dramasnot6
12-16-2006, 10:33 AM
I love the name of it! Hypnotic poison....wow....i hope i dont start mindcontrolling and corrupting random people outside the store :p Thanks Niamh!

Niamh
12-16-2006, 10:37 AM
its also in a red bottle shaped like an apple. you'll be seducing everyone that walks past!:D

Niamh
12-16-2006, 01:10 PM
Hey Madhuri did you eventually det to sleep last night or did the tea keep you awake longer?

Lily Adams
12-16-2006, 06:21 PM
Hello, all, I finally decided to join the conversation. :) There is English or Earl Grey tea here, though, right? :D

I hardly ever wear perfume, because I never really wear anything that would be appropriate with perfume. I don't go to fancy places and dress up much, but when I do like just a hint of lavender or rose-scented perfume. I detest the overbearing scent of lots of perfume or cologne on people, though. :sick:

Niamh
12-16-2006, 06:26 PM
You dont need to dress up to wear parfume. Avon have this lovely Jasmine oil that smell so nice, and all you have to do is rub it on your skin. very girly and a bit of a classic scent dont you think Lily?

Lily Adams
12-16-2006, 06:29 PM
Oh, yes. Jasmine is my third favorite scent.

Niamh
12-16-2006, 06:31 PM
Would i be completely wrong to assume you were from England?

Lily Adams
12-16-2006, 06:38 PM
:lol: No, I'm not from England. Quite the opposite. I live in Southern California, U.S.A., but right now if I took a picture of the sky here you think it was England. (But I love overcast weather, so it's nice.) I do so want to go to England very badly, though.

BTW-I like Lily of the Valley, too. Yardley products are my favorite when it comes to perfumes and all that.

Niamh
12-16-2006, 06:41 PM
Well i like lily of the valley but not that much that i'd want to wear it.
i like overcast weather as well but unfortunately for me it wont stop raining over here. the country is flooding.

Lily Adams
12-16-2006, 06:43 PM
Oh, I'm sorry. I hope everything clears up over there.

Niamh
12-16-2006, 06:50 PM
well its not really near me. all the flooding is in the west over by mayo. I think we're having forthy days and forthy nights! god damn it!

dramasnot6
12-16-2006, 08:10 PM
I would love some cool rain over here! It's 100 farenheit today and very,very dry. Consider yourselves lucky :)

Lily Adams
12-16-2006, 08:45 PM
Oh, I do. You have my sympathies!

Madhuri
12-16-2006, 11:55 PM
Hey Madhuri did you eventually det to sleep last night or did the tea keep you awake longer?

It didnt, I was asleep within minutes....:D

kathycf
12-17-2006, 12:01 AM
as for makeup, i really don't know. :) since i've never put it on before, i don't know whether i need it or not, or how it would look! mostly i'm not nuts about my face shape, but i guess i can't change that.


In the pic you posted your face looks just fine, mir. I suppose most of us find a few things we don't like about our appearance. My jaw is really square looking to me... FYI changing the appearance of your face shape is possible via contouring but it needs an especially light touch to make it look natural and is better at night time anyway. (guess who used to be a makeup artist a long time ago?) ;)

Real essential oils are nice perfumes as well and are natural. Lavendar, Bergamot, Rosemary even Patchouli can all be nice if diluted.

Shalot
12-17-2006, 01:20 AM
Well, if you think perfume might lead to pregnacy then why not just wear garlic? :D

You can put these under your shirt:

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/img/garlic.jpg

Virgil is weird..........;)

Shalot
12-17-2006, 01:34 AM
its also in a red bottle shaped like an apple. you'll be seducing everyone that walks past!:D


DKNY makes a perfume called Be Delicious and it comes in an apple shaped bottle also. There are two varieties and one is a green apple (Be Delicious) and one is a red apple (Red Delicious) and the scents are a little different. Everytime I go to the dept store I like to sample it (unless I go to one in the bad part of town where they don't put the testers out because shoplifters steal them). The green one smells good though I've never actually purchased a bottle (I would if I could! --- right now I've got Curve and I'm not getting anything else until I use it up. Supposedly you've got about a year to use up your perfume before it starts to go bad.....)

Madhuri
12-17-2006, 01:50 AM
Supposedly you've got about a year to use up your perfume before it starts to go bad.....)


Do perfumes go bad?? I have this one from Michael Kors, and its been more than 5yrs that I have had it with me. I dont use it so much, as it is a gift from my brother, I like keeping gifts as long as I can. But, whenever I do, it still smells nice. I dont know why I cant buy such expensive perfumes for myself, I have bought such perfumes as gifts for others though, but, whenever I think of getting one for myself, I end up buying a simple deo....

Shalot
12-17-2006, 02:08 AM
Do perfumes go bad?? I have this one from Michael Kors, and its been more than 5yrs that I have had it with me. I dont use it so much, as it is a gift from my brother, I like keeping gifts as long as I can. But, whenever I do, it still smells nice. I dont know why I cant buy such expensive perfumes for myself, I have bought such perfumes as gifts for others though, but, whenever I think of getting one for myself, I end up buying a simple deo....

Honestly, I don't know. I read that in some magazine a long time ago but it could just be one of those things that they say to sell perfume. The shelf life of a perfume may actually be longer than a year, but I imagine that they do go bad at some point just because nothing lasts forever, you know?

Niamh
12-17-2006, 07:05 AM
my mam had a bottle of coco chanel for a bout ten years and it smelt the same when she finished it as when she started. i also like the green one.

Dramasnot6 come to ireland. we have rain.

Nightshade
12-17-2006, 10:36 AM
Do perfumes go bad?? I have this one from Michael Kors, and its been more than 5yrs that I have had it with me. I dont use it so much, as it is a gift from my brother, I like keeping gifts as long as I can. But, whenever I do, it still smells nice. I dont know why I cant buy such expensive perfumes for myself, I have bought such perfumes as gifts for others though, but, whenever I think of getting one for myself, I end up buying a simple deo....

The do go bad but I think the one year thing is a myth they end up smelling like Pyrsol.
:rolleyes:

Madhuri
12-17-2006, 10:59 AM
The do go bad but I think the one year thing is a myth they end up smelling like Pyrsol.
:rolleyes:

Oh, well, then there must be something wrong with my nose....:p :D

Pendragon
12-17-2006, 11:04 AM
Virgil is weird..........;)Garlic keeps off werewolves and vampires... Might even work on annoying Martians... http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/teufel/a030.gif http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/figuren/g065.gif http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/figuren/a030.gif

AimusSage
12-17-2006, 11:19 AM
Garlic keeps off werewolves and vampires... Might even work on annoying Martians... http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/teufel/a030.gif http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/figuren/g065.gif http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/figuren/a030.gif
No, I'm pretty sure Martians are very fond of garlic. :D

Nightshade
12-17-2006, 11:26 AM
well garlic is grea with turnips:nod:

AimusSage
12-17-2006, 11:29 AM
well garlic is grea with turnips:nod:
Don't tell the Martians! :eek:

Nightshade
12-17-2006, 11:31 AM
Why not afraid they raid your patch??

AimusSage
12-17-2006, 11:36 AM
Why not afraid they raid your patch??
I could have a civil war on my hands!

toni
12-17-2006, 11:41 AM
... Might even work on annoying Martians... http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/teufel/a030.gif http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/figuren/g065.gif http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/figuren/a030.gif
:bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:
Annoying Martians? Is my Lovey dovey Uncle Pen referring to Mira and I? :bawling: :bawling:

Niamh
12-17-2006, 12:10 PM
i dont think here ment it. besides if aliens are like faeries, garlic is considered nice with everything. well almost everything! dont think it would go well with chocolate! :D

Lily Adams
12-17-2006, 02:12 PM
Hey! You leave those Martians alone! All they want to do is zap people with ray guns and turn them into red and green skeletons. And don't go pulling that Slim Whitman stuff on them, either. Ack ack! *Makes the International Sign of the Doughnt*

dramasnot6
12-17-2006, 07:15 PM
I like garlic...:(

Lily Adams
12-17-2006, 09:05 PM
Mystery solved! Martians like garlic. :p

toni
12-17-2006, 09:13 PM
Excellent for cooking. Great flavour..:D

dramasnot6
12-17-2006, 10:13 PM
And very healthy too! Lookie what i found :D

Of all garlic's reputed medicinal benefits, perhaps the most well known is its use as a natural antibiotic with reports going back through history. There are even stories of garlic being used to ward off the plague. It's not known how effective this was, however there is some evidence that anthrax is sensitive to garlic. Some people have even suggested that it might help in the fight against acne although that might be too much to hope for.
Garlic's antibiotic properties have been more extensively studied than some of its other reputed health benefits. Louis Pasteur examined garlic's use as an antibacterial back in the nineteenth century and showed how it killed bacteria under laboratory conditions. Numerous modern studies confirm that garlic has definite antibiotic properties and is effective against many bacteria, fungi and viruses. According to Wright State University (1), garlic is approximately one per cent as potent an antibiotic as penicillin.

Some people have reported that even blood from a garlic eater can itself kill bacteria!

RobinHood3000
12-17-2006, 10:51 PM
What about the breath of a garlic eater?

dramasnot6
12-18-2006, 01:39 AM
Well, the breath will do the same as blood except instead of "kill" it will "ward off" and instead of bacteria, it wards off people with bacterial personalitys :p

SleepyWitch
12-18-2006, 05:48 AM
yummie, I love garlic :) I haven't eaten anything with garlic in it for ages due to the evil evil policy of our refectory not to cook anything that has any effect whatsoever on people's tastebuds.

Pendragon
12-18-2006, 10:34 AM
:bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:
Annoying Martians? Is my Lovey dovey Uncle Pen referring to Mira and I? :bawling: :bawling:Of course not! http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/verschiedene/h060.gif When have I ever found my Samuari neice "annoying"? Or Mira? http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/musik/k025.gif Aimus took it in stride as I knew he would, the cheeky Turnip King! http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/nahrung/c030.gif

AimusSage
12-18-2006, 11:20 AM
Of course not! http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/verschiedene/h060.gif When have I ever found my Samuari neice "annoying"? Or Mira? http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/musik/k025.gif Aimus took it in stride as I knew he would, the cheeky Turnip King! http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/nahrung/c030.gif
You know me too well Pen :D

Laindessiel
12-18-2006, 11:59 AM
Who says about annoying Martians, bloody smelly gahlic, and putrid-smelling perfume? ;) My nose can handle all of them. And Martians, yeah. :p Think about what I have to suffer everyday when I'm with Toni....

Boo ya! Caught'ya little sis! ;)

dramasnot6
12-18-2006, 06:05 PM
O_O *hides her bottle of Ode de Outerspace*

Pendragon
12-18-2006, 06:35 PM
http://www.websmileys.com/sm/aliens/bigcheek.gifhttp://www.websmileys.com/sm/aliens/spacecraft.gifhttp://www.websmileys.com/sm/aliens/alien_greetings.gif Oops! Too late, Drama! http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/figuren/e060.gif

dramasnot6
12-18-2006, 07:23 PM
WOW PEN! Those are some FANTASTIC alien smileys! I shall save all of them in my special, extraterrestial piccy folder :alien: Thank you comrade! *alien salute*

mir
12-18-2006, 07:44 PM
I love the Beam-Me-Up-Smiley one :lol:

Madhuri
12-23-2006, 06:28 AM
Garlics are healthy...:)

dramasnot6
12-23-2006, 07:09 AM
Indeed they are! Good for ze blood :)

Schokokeks
12-23-2006, 09:32 AM
Well, the breath will do the same as blood except instead of "kill" it will "ward off" and instead of bacteria, it wards off people with bacterial personalitys :p
:lol: :lol: :lol:
*runs off to bake some garlic cookies* :D

Stanislaw
12-23-2006, 10:53 AM
Indeed they are! Good for ze blood :)

ze garlic is bad for ze blood...now that I work from 23:30 - 8:00, I have an understatink of zis dilema...you see za garlics makes the blood undrinkable!

...er well, If I were a vampire that is...:D

dang, my new shift is killer.:D

mir
12-23-2006, 11:19 AM
aww, good luck, Stan. That's evil. Hey, maybe they have garlic-flavored coffee? :p

Pendragon
12-23-2006, 12:19 PM
What is it Jim says in Huckelberry Finn? "Jest soon have t'baccer in mah coffee!" http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/nahrung/h060.gif

dramasnot6
12-24-2006, 06:40 AM
Who here likes iced coffee?

Madhuri
12-24-2006, 07:04 AM
I do...I am not very fond of other types though (I can drink nonetheless), but Iced Coffee is good...

Stanislaw
12-24-2006, 07:26 AM
Who here likes iced coffee?

well...I like DQ's moolatte...:D

Themis
12-24-2006, 08:43 AM
Who here likes iced coffee?

The real question should be: Who doesn't? I mean really is there anyone who doesn't like it?

Personally, I like every and any form of coffee. As long as it's coffee, I'm happy. Well, as long as it's coffee as coffee should be with all the caffeine where it should be (which is in the coffee).

Poetess
12-24-2006, 09:13 AM
Any soft drink included?

Schokokeks
12-24-2006, 09:22 AM
The real question should be: Who doesn't? I mean really is there anyone who doesn't like it?
Yep :D.
Hate it or love it, I guess :D.

Themis
12-24-2006, 10:01 AM
Any soft drink included?

Red Bull. :brow:

Actually no, caffeine wise, not any soft drink included. Just a few.

Nightshade
12-24-2006, 11:07 AM
dang, my new shift is killer.:D
HOw many cups of coffe have you had?
And can I just ask why are you working in the middle of the night? Dont places close in Canada?
:confused:

Koa
12-25-2006, 07:28 PM
The real question should be: Who doesn't? I mean really is there anyone who doesn't like it?

Personally, I like every and any form of coffee. As long as it's coffee, I'm happy. Well, as long as it's coffee as coffee should be with all the caffeine where it should be (which is in the coffee).

I never drink coffee. I don't like its taste. If I happen to do it, I drink it with A LOT of milk, which is not called coffee anymore in Italy. Coffee is dark and bitter and you drink it in a tiny cup because more of it would kill you :D
That allows me to travel a lot and not miss Italian coffee as my countrymen do - and I believe it's a great suffering.:sick:

mir
12-25-2006, 07:29 PM
I tried Coca-Cola black once and liked it . . .

kathycf
12-25-2006, 10:55 PM
Who here likes iced coffee?

ME! :lol: I only drink it in summer though.

Virgil
12-26-2006, 12:16 AM
I like iced coffee. It's actually very refreshing in hot weather. Ever have coffee soda?

dramasnot6
12-26-2006, 12:24 AM
coffee soda? isnt that like coke black? or something different?

Virgil
12-26-2006, 12:27 AM
coffee soda? isnt that like coke black? or something different?

Around here it's called Manhattan Special. Here's their web site: http://www.manhattanspecial.com/movie.html

Here's a picture:
http://chewandswallow.wordpress.com/files/2006/08/photo_pure_espresso.GIF

Nightshade
12-26-2006, 08:09 AM
Well I dont like coffee cantt stand the smell , the only exception is the smell of Saudi coffee but I wont drink that either. I did rather enjoy the coffee flavoured pepsi though didnt taste or smell anything like coffee it just had waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayy too much caffinne in it, Im not sure I liked it but couldnt seem to stop drinking it.

Poetess
12-26-2006, 12:26 PM
Red Bull. :brow:

Actually no, caffeine wise, not any soft drink included. Just a few.

Have you tried both Redbull? The normal one and the one sugarfree?

Themis
12-26-2006, 01:01 PM
Have you tried both Redbull? The normal one and the one sugarfree?

Yes, I have.

Laindessiel
12-26-2006, 01:21 PM
Iced coffee is the best coffee variety. Starbucks coffee is so heavenly sinful but they're one of the best around. But I like white wine more. Not saying that I drink it more often but I like its taste. Sugared ones, I prefer; the ones with a hint of fizz in it.

Lily Adams
12-27-2006, 12:41 AM
Unlike most people, I prefer the Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf to Starbucks, I love their iced coffee, and their teas are superb!

dramasnot6
12-27-2006, 12:43 AM
Iced coffee is the best coffee variety. Starbucks coffee is so heavenly sinful but they're one of the best around. But I like white wine more. Not saying that I drink it more often but I like its taste. Sugared ones, I prefer; the ones with a hint of fizz in it.

You guys have Starbucks?? Lucky! The entire Western Australia doesnt have a starbucks, very very sad. :bawling:

IamMissingaLink
12-27-2006, 02:15 AM
You guys have Starbucks?? Lucky! The entire Western Australia doesnt have a starbucks, very very sad. :bawling:

So, Australia is the Land of the Ignorant? :p
But honestly, as far as Starbucks goes, you're not missing out on much.

Schokokeks
12-27-2006, 04:36 AM
But honestly, as far as Starbucks goes, you're not missing out on much.
Yes, you do :p. I would go there just for the comfy armchairs and sofas :D.

Pendragon
12-27-2006, 05:20 PM
Where she sleeps and dreams up cookie recipies... http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/nahrung/k030.gif

livelaughlove
12-27-2006, 11:19 PM
Agreed. Their mocha frapps are heavenly, though...

Has anyone ever had the Panera iced coffees? They like completely run my life. An IC Mocha can just about brighten the crappiest of days, mmmmm!!!

Schokokeks
12-28-2006, 06:31 AM
Where she sleeps and dreams up cookie recipies... http://www.cosgan.de/images/kao/nahrung/k030.gif
...and missing lectures and all the like...
:blush: guilty as charged :D.

dramasnot6
12-28-2006, 09:04 AM
So, Australia is the Land of the Ignorant? :p
But honestly, as far as Starbucks goes, you're not missing out on much.

Oh, i didnt mean it that way at all. It's only this part of Australia, every part of the world has a land of the ignorant. I live in a fairly isolated place is all. i've been to Sydney and Canberra and find it much more thriving. Before i moved i went to Starbucks very frequently, but now that im off caffeine ill just have to enjoy some herbal tea next time i come across one.

Pendragon
12-28-2006, 11:08 AM
Drama, if you happen to have a world atlas that gives a state by state breakdown of the USA, look at Virginia. You may find a small town called "Marion" near the borders of Tennessee and North Carolina, and not that far from West Virginia, tucked into the mountains. That's where I grew up. I live north of Marion now in a small town called "Atkins" which may not even be a dot on the map. To leave my home any way except by the I-81 corridor is to cross a mountain within five miles. We are what people call redneck, hick, backwoods, etc. The fact that my IQ reaches into the 130's doesn't matter to them. I'm hick. Trailer park trash. Etc. Associates Degree in computers, big deal, redneck! Minister since 1982? So what? Hick! I've preached in big cities like Baltimore and Charlotte, NC. Standing room only crowds. Now since I became disabled, I'm a real hermit hick! :lol:

Laindessiel
12-28-2006, 11:14 AM
Drama, if you happen to have a world atlas that gives a state by state breakdown of the USA, look at Virginia. You may find a small town called "Marion" near the borders of Tennessee and North Carolina, and not that far from West Virginia, tucked into the mountains. That's where I grew up. I live north of Marion now in a small town called "Atkins" which may not even be a dot on the map.

I'll look for you there, Uncle Pen. ;)


To leave my home any way except by the I-81 corridor is to cross a mountain within five miles. We are what people call redneck, hick, backwoods, etc. The fact that my IQ reaches into the 130's doesn't matter to them. I'm hick. Trailer park trash. Etc. Associates Degree in computers, big deal, redneck! Minister since 1982? So what? Hick! I've preached in big cities like Baltimore and Charlotte, NC. Standing room only crowds. Now since I became disabled, I'm a real hermit hick! :lol:

If you're a hick, Uncle Pen, then hicks are cool! Put in those darned rednecks and backwoods too, for goodness' sake. One question: do you have hen-pecks? :p

Shannanigan
12-28-2006, 12:23 PM
Pen, I never took you for a hick! :p

Poetess
12-28-2006, 02:04 PM
You guys have Starbucks?? Lucky! The entire Western Australia doesnt have a starbucks, very very sad. :bawling:

:lol: I like Starbucks till now, yet I prefer Dunkin` Donuts more :p
Coolatta all the waaaaaaay!

dramasnot6
12-29-2006, 06:43 AM
Drama, if you happen to have a world atlas that gives a state by state breakdown of the USA, look at Virginia. You may find a small town called "Marion" near the borders of Tennessee and North Carolina, and not that far from West Virginia, tucked into the mountains. That's where I grew up. I live north of Marion now in a small town called "Atkins" which may not even be a dot on the map. To leave my home any way except by the I-81 corridor is to cross a mountain within five miles. We are what people call redneck, hick, backwoods, etc. The fact that my IQ reaches into the 130's doesn't matter to them. I'm hick. Trailer park trash. Etc. Associates Degree in computers, big deal, redneck! Minister since 1982? So what? Hick! I've preached in big cities like Baltimore and Charlotte, NC. Standing room only crowds. Now since I became disabled, I'm a real hermit hick! :lol:

Aww...dont label yourself Pen! One is not a hick because they live some place, one is not anything unless it is part of their soul. And you have a very sophisticated and witty soul :D I didnt see any of the Beverly Hillbillys reciting verse like you do!