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MarkBastable

01-29-2011, 04:09 AM

9/10. Love that song.

But, gratuitous, what the hell does that even mean? Good musicians who know how to write a song and perform is gratuitous? Please, explain, as it makes absolutely no sense."Carve a ****" by Maggot Stuffed **** (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH-EEfKNvio) (explicit)

I think he means - and I'm happy to be corrected - that the composition gave the impression that all that virtuosity was being employed for its own sake; without any purpose or justification other than displaying itself. And I tend to agree with him.

You obviously disagree with him - but that doesn't mean he makes no sense.

As for the kids saying 'dick' in class, I wish them all the success they deserve. 0/10

Going back a bit... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-O49dxp-ss&feature=related)

MystyrMystyry

01-29-2011, 05:56 AM

Brilliant! 10 Big Ones/10

Amazing how some things just get better - wonder if I can find a video of Miles' Walking?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTfBpKzu6XA

MarkBastable

01-29-2011, 06:52 AM

Much as I like Bowie, I do sometimes find him a bit cringe-making when he waxes philosophical. I mean, he gets away with it on Changes and even Oh! You Pretty Things, and if you sprinkle Time with a pinch of salt, you can swallow it pretty easily. And Life on Mars? is unimprovable, of course. But Width of a Circle and My Death are each a pretension too far for me. 5/10

From the same era, you look like a star, but you're still on the dole (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubBpu3MHmtM&feature=related).

MystyrMystyry

01-29-2011, 07:48 AM

Okay - probably good for its era 7/10 - nowhere near as good as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsDpznl8eIs

MarkBastable

01-29-2011, 09:37 AM

I think we can agree to disagree about the relative merits of Mott and AC/DC. I'll give the song 7/10. As I would any of their songs. On account them all being the same song.

Here's one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ddJRBQFRoY&feature=related) I despised at the time, but I heard it the other day - stripped by time of all the pop-pretty-boy hype I associated with it - and I thought, "Man, that's a well-written song."

Lokasenna

01-29-2011, 02:34 PM

Hideous. Just whinging with an upbeat backing track. 2/10

How about something (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltBevk4i1CQ) with a bit of passion and va-va-voom?

MarkBastable

01-29-2011, 02:53 PM

How about something (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltBevk4i1CQ) with a bit of passion and va-va-voom?

If there's one thing that really irritates me, it's a show tune. That whole hoofin', choreographed, production-number pizzazz just triggers something in me that wants to commit arson at several establishments in the West End and on Broadway. I cannot for the life of me see the appeal. It's so contrived and stylised. And because of that, the last thing it is, for me, is passionate, and it carries all the va-va-voom of a Safeway own-brand microwave hamburger.

2/10, for the legs.

Love - you can't give it away. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys0cEs0iQSA)

Mutatis-Mutandis

01-29-2011, 07:51 PM

That video isn't available in my country.

I think he means - and I'm happy to be corrected - that the composition gave the impression that all that virtuosity was being employed for its own sake; without any purpose or justification other than displaying itself. And I tend to agree with him.

That doesn't justify an idiotic rating.

This has passion. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkuOAY-S6OY&feature=related)

MarkBastable

01-29-2011, 09:22 PM

I'm afraid that video isn't available in my country.

Let's have another go at this one - which isnt available in your country, Mutatis. Love - you can't give it away. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys0cEs0iQSA)

sixsmith

01-29-2011, 09:23 PM

Love - you can't give it away. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys0cEs0iQSA)

Great song. 8/10.

That doesn't justify an idiotic rating.

It's important not to takes these things to heart Mutatis. There is nothing scientific, or even anything particularly consistent, about the numerical ratings. Suffice to say that, as far as my approach to this thread is concerned, anything below 5 is rubbish. I consider the Bela Fleck song to be a particularly unfortunate example of the phenomenon to which Mark refers and to which I have an acute and longstanding aversion. Hence the 1.

As for the RATM, 8/10.

Scheherazade

01-29-2011, 09:31 PM

It's important not to takes these things to heart Mutatis. There is nothing scientific, or even anything particularly consistent, about the numerical ratings.On that note...

Please do not personalise your comments.

Post containing off-topic and/or inflammatory remarks will be removed without further notice.

Unless you feel ready to have the song you posted criticised, please refrain from taking part as the game is solely based on the idea of telling others what we think of their choice of songs.

Paulclem

01-29-2011, 09:43 PM

Great song. 8/10.

It's important not to takes these things to heart Mutatis. There is nothing scientific, or even anything particularly consistent, about the numerical ratings. Suffice to say that, as far as my approach to this thread is concerned, anything below 5 is rubbish. I consider the Bela Fleck song to be a particularly unfortunate example of the phenomenon to which Mark refers and to which I have an acute and longstanding aversion. Hence the 1.

As for the RATM, 8/10.

Agreed. I've posted a song on the back of this Six as you didn't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWjDZkY1ILU

I always felt they were underrated.

Incidentally, harking back a few, can I just opine that I Lost My Heart to a Starship Trooper is one of the best singles ever made, and probably the only twelve-inch re-mix I ever bought. The lyrics were written by Bob Calvert. Of Hawkwind. No, really.

.

I had a friend years ago who was unashamedly into disco stuff. He recounted how he was in the queue in the "record shop" (funny how antiquated that is now) feeling a little wimpy asking for "I Lost My Heart to a Starship Trooper" after the bloke in front had been buying The Dead Kennedys and Stiff Little Fingers. :smilielol5:

OrphanPip

01-29-2011, 10:00 PM

I don't mind the song too much, but the lyrics are a tad cloying, 5.5/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AINBEN-t-30

Paulclem

01-29-2011, 10:07 PM

I don't mind the song too much, but the lyrics are a tad cloying, 5.5/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AINBEN-t-30

I like it. 8/10

It reminded me of this, which in turn reminds me of a weeks holiday I spent in a caravan in Exmouth in 1983. How times have changed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f67UPPEkFNs&feature=related

Mutatis-Mutandis

01-30-2011, 01:58 AM

I like some disco. One of the prerequisites is that it has to have a band, so this gets a 3/10.

Prog rules! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPOTg-7pV64)

MarkBastable

01-30-2011, 04:35 AM

When I was at school, an informed and longhaired fifteen-year-old had to make a tribal choice between heavy (Deep Purple, Robin Trower, ZZ Top), glam (Mott, Alice Cooper, Bowie) or prog (Yes, ELP, Genesis).

I was in the second group, though I did have a lot of time for Selling England by The Pound.

My problem with Yes was (and I'm not being provocative) that they exhibited so much of the gratuitousness that sixsmith mentions - and in the case of Tales from Topographic Oceans, about three days of it.

But I went through a phase recently of downloading tracks by bands I haven't listened to for thirty years, just to see if my opinion had changed. I discovered that there's about an album's worth of Yes that I think deserves space on the hard-drive, and Roundabout is high on the list of qualifiers. 8/10

(By the way, Pip and Paul, I've always found the Beautiful South hard to take too, although I'd never understood why they inspired nausea rather than indifference. Then I was having lunch with a music critic when the subject of the band came up, and my lunch companion nailed it for me. "God, I can't stand the Beautiful South. They're so wholesome.")

Got you in a dimestore (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86-XrU8sh60&feature=related). (Without researching it, who's doing the second vocal? It's as about as unlikely a Brit as you can imagine guesting with Alice.)

The Comedian

01-30-2011, 04:32 PM

I dig it, Mark 8/10.

Ladies, you know it! ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWKnAmBEXsM&feature=related

Scheherazade

01-30-2011, 07:56 PM

Ladies, you know it! ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWKnAmBEXsM&feature=relatedLiked it OK (not as much as some of his other songs, though): 6/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVmG_d3HKBA

papayahed

01-30-2011, 08:21 PM

It reminds me of a bad Bee Gees tune, video was kinda cool though. 5/10

Soooo 80's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dZW1C3neao

Gilliatt Gurgle

01-30-2011, 08:40 PM

Sorry Papayahed, but soooo much of the 80's was soooo bad - 2/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20S_kwNb4rg

Gilliatt

Mutatis-Mutandis

01-30-2011, 11:04 PM

I was ready to give this a low rating because I thought it was some **** indie band, since most just rip off old music and repackage it as deep-artsy BS. Then I looked down and saw it was an actual innovative band from the 60s that I'd never heard of (or, at least don't remember hearing). So, 9/10.

If someone rates this low, you're a bad person. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzkhOmKVW08)

OrphanPip

01-30-2011, 11:16 PM

One of my least favourite Beatle's songs, but it's still the Beatles, 6/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIMGgBLOwfg

Shalot

01-30-2011, 11:47 PM

7/10 - sounds so sweet but it isn't

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-AbHItLrJw

sixsmith

01-31-2011, 04:02 AM

I know excess is part of the Zeppelin charm but it seems to me that, in this instance, their intemperance negates the possibility of a great song, leaving us with merely a good one. 6/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKTG05rw2iw

Oniw17

01-31-2011, 04:07 AM

Not really my style, 6/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFzNiX_yxtg

Mutatis-Mutandis

01-31-2011, 10:20 AM

I hate rap. But, the lyrics were definitely more interesting than most rap I've heard, so 5/10.

One of my favorite love songs. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUQNM2ugpxY)

The Comedian

01-31-2011, 03:01 PM

Like it. 8/10

It got me in the mood for loud, angry, and political. And since I'm a '90s kind of guy. That means this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-58-36lSqG4

Mutatis-Mutandis

01-31-2011, 05:40 PM

Paulclem

01-31-2011, 07:02 PM

Yes. Love this song. When I posted "Killing in the Name Of," I couldn't decide between that song or "Bulls on Parade," so a big 10/10.

Another protest song. :cornut: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w00v2zVkX9g)

I didn't like it. I like a good sing along - even if it's rock. 0.002/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPM6ni4bQzc

I used to listen to this before hitting town on a Friday and Saturday nights to get the blood up for a good night. Now I just hit the sack.

papayahed

01-31-2011, 08:06 PM

haha, Not my favorite Deep Purple. 6/10.

Puts me in the mood for this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7A2acBVENA

Paulclem

01-31-2011, 08:14 PM

haha, Not my favorite Deep Purple. 6/10.

Puts me in the mood for this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7A2acBVENA

10/10 The Allman Brthers are great.

Have you heard this version? Not as good as the previous version, but I think it added to the song too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDy7-eq7OGM

Sionn Harrow

02-01-2011, 12:24 AM

Eh...it was okay. 7/10.

what do y'all think of this?

http://waltdisneystudiosawards.com/aliceinwonderland/music.php

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-01-2011, 01:35 AM

Paulclem

02-01-2011, 08:51 PM

I've always been a fan of Elfman's scores. I really like this, too, but I gotta say the chorus brings it down a couple points. Eliminate the singing, and I think it'd be much better. 7.5/10.

One of my favorite movie scores. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpBlakZzwZo)

I like it 9/10.

This one brings back those late nights trying to watch this film all the way through- it's loooooooonnnnnnnnng. It's a great tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfczFtTvzbg

The music is really evocative of the characters, though it's a terrible manipulation because the characters are very unsympathetic murdering hoods.

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-01-2011, 11:10 PM

A little slow for my taste, and I haven't seen the movie so that doesn't affect my rating. But, I liked how it built. 7.2/10.

Another of my favorite movie-score tunes. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OkFLdPaoZQ)

OrphanPip

02-02-2011, 04:32 PM

Ah, I suppose it's good atmospheric movie for a film, 5/10.

Since we're on a movie music bent,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ7qdG2kcIc

MarkBastable

02-02-2011, 04:45 PM

Much as I despise musicals, Cabaret is one of my favourite movies. But then it's not a musical. No urchins dance along cobbled streets. No hoodlums perform ballet on subway platforms. No nuns serenade distant peaks. In Cabaret, the plot revolves around a night-club, and the songs - neatly relevant though they are to the action - take place on the stage of that club. Even the one 'outside' song is realistic and credible and quite terrifying.

If I were going for songs from Cabaret, I'd probably choose Money. But this one's pretty damn good. As was Minnelli.For her, it was all going to be downhill.....

8/10

When I was ten, I thought this was great (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtJSLZnKCv0). Now I think it's awful callous Broadway corn. But here's to the ten-year-old me.

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-02-2011, 05:54 PM

Liza. 1/10.

One last movie tune . . . Baaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaa, ba-ba-ba-Baaaaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaaaaa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjMNNpIksaI)

OrphanPip

02-03-2011, 04:31 PM

I've always been more of a Star Trek fan, but the music is iconic 7/10.

And I'm not giving up on musicals!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPfE1faUxtQ&feature=related

sixsmith

02-03-2011, 06:31 PM

And I'm not giving up on musicals!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPfE1faUxtQ&feature=related

Pip, I implore you ... let them go. 4/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvR_6C9_6Bk

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-03-2011, 06:42 PM

I like it more for the message of rebellion than the song itself. 6/10.

"Dance of Eternity" by Dream Theater (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhedP71N9gQ)

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-06-2011, 04:35 PM

Bump.

MarkBastable

02-06-2011, 08:30 PM

papayahed

02-06-2011, 09:00 PM

Not my favorite Four Tops but it's still the Four Tops 7.5/10.

Staying in the same era:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQy9l0PvNiU&feature=related

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-06-2011, 11:59 PM

Dunno about anyone else, but I decided to keep out of the way until that last song was rated, because I loathed it but I wasn't about to risk invoking the withering scorn of Mutatis by saying so.

But what the hell - I'm here now.

Self-indulgent tosh. 2/10 (just for remembering it all).

I'm done getting upset by other people's ratings. It's all good. And, hey, it's not my problem if one can't appreciatte true musicianship and compositional genius :D. It's pretty clear to me that some of you think that anything with extended solos, or anything that's complex, is gratuitous and self-indulgent, but it's just your opinion :nod:. And I'll keep posting tosh, anyways.

As to the above song, it's okay. 5/10.

Beautiful song and beautiful lyrics. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhdGkZ6Fngw)

sixsmith

02-08-2011, 02:28 AM

I'm done getting upset by other people's ratings. It's all good. And, hey, it's not my problem if one can't appreciatte true musicianship and compositional genius :D. It's pretty clear to me that some of you think that anything with extended solos, or anything that's complex, is gratuitous and self-indulgent, but it's just your opinion :nod:. And I'll keep posting tosh, anyways.

As to the above song, it's okay. 5/10.

Beautiful song and beautiful lyrics. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhdGkZ6Fngw)

I'm glad you've decided to take that attitude Mutatis because I am wholly indifferent to the labored, elevator folk of Messrs. Simon and Garfunkel. 4/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj1BlEB9GNA

MarkBastable

02-08-2011, 03:52 AM

.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj1BlEB9GNA

I concede to no man in my admiration of Nick Lowe's work, and I submit that Brinsley Schwarz is perennially overlooked when lists of great guitar players are compiled - but this is a rather pedestrian effort from a bunch of talented lads looking for a purpose. 5/10

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjtGr41PUws&feature=related) Brinsley having found his purpose, which was to provide fizzy sherbert guitar to complement the bitter lemon songs of Graham Parker.

Incidentally, sixsmith, I tend to agree with you about The Sound of Silence - but there's some S&G stuff that completely works. When Simon focuses on the details of the domestic, he's unbeatable. (And when he's on form, you do in fact like his stuff. You gave America seven out of ten a few months back.) Garfunkel, obviously, is a complete waste of space.

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-08-2011, 01:34 PM

Paulclem

02-09-2011, 07:44 PM

That was painful. 1/10.

I do agree about Garfunkel. He was useless, or maybe replaceable would be a better adjective. "The Sound of Silence" (probably the teacher in me, but songs go in quotes) is beautiful, though.

Still one of my favorites. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxk_wYeIv6I)

It was ok. 5/10

I was at uni when this was released. Great album it was from too. David Byrne's recently been touring again wearing a tutu.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNnAvTTaJjM

JuniperWoolf

02-09-2011, 07:48 PM

I've never really liked that song much. 5/10

I'm so glad that I was a 90's kid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCAy9ErdKY&feature=autoplay&list=PLACE518C4E1D9B16F&index=15&playnext=5

Paulclem

02-09-2011, 07:56 PM

I've never really liked that song much. 5/10

I'm so glad that I was a 90's kid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCAy9ErdKY&feature=autoplay&list=PLACE518C4E1D9B16F&index=15&playnext=5

It's good - 8/10. You can hear the older influences in it - so it's an amalgam of earlier styles, like most are. No worse for that though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4o8TeqKhgY&feature=autoplay&list=PLACE518C4E1D9B16F&index=1&playnext=6

Takes me back. Bitter and 4xxxx Lager.

MarkBastable

02-10-2011, 04:24 AM

It's good - 8/10. You can hear the older influences in it - so it's an amalgam of earlier styles, like most are. No worse for that though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4o8TeqKhgY&feature=autoplay&list=PLACE518C4E1D9B16F&index=1&playnext=6

Takes me back. Bitter and 4xxxx Lager.

Ah yes - back in the old days when rap was performed by polite young men and they had proper tunes and words you could understand. 6/10 for the 'it was all fields round here when I was a boy' factor.

Incidentally, '4xxxx' would be 16 x's. That must have been strong stuff.

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJKLJ_JoJIg&feature=fvwrel)a rather charming if slightly too reverential cover.

papayahed

02-10-2011, 08:27 AM

I thought it was nice, 8/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J_CmSi6CVI

Paulclem

02-10-2011, 08:51 AM

Ah yes - back in the old days when rap was performed by polite young men and they had proper tunes and words you could understand. 6/10 for the 'it was all fields round here when I was a boy' factor.

Incidentally, '4xxxx' would be 16 x's. That must have been strong stuff.

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJKLJ_JoJIg&feature=fvwrel)a rather charming if slightly too reverential cover.

:lol:

Damn strong. It must have been the Barley Wine I put in it. Do you remember Barley wine? Whoooa

Paulclem

02-10-2011, 09:12 AM

I thought it was nice, 8/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J_CmSi6CVI

I like it 8/10

How about something radical?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGwdBJJT7l0

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-10-2011, 05:08 PM

Not bad. 6.5/10

Your ears will bleed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOd-T58qHLA)

MarkBastable

02-10-2011, 06:00 PM

Bad. 0.5/10

Your nose will bleed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aabojNSensw)

Paulclem

02-10-2011, 06:13 PM

Bad. 0.5/10

Your nose will bleed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aabojNSensw)

Superb - 9/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQWszrZHBPI

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-11-2011, 08:33 PM

Not one of my favorite Pink Floyd songs, but still Floyd. 7/10.

A true musical genius. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apTPXPBMBXk) Too bad there isn't a clip that contains the whole of Part 1.

sixsmith

02-11-2011, 08:48 PM

Not one of my favorite Pink Floyd songs, but still Floyd. 7/10.

A true musical genius. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apTPXPBMBXk) Too bad there isn't a clip that contains the whole of Part 1.

Underwhelming. 5/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9-NOIalUYU&feature=related

MarkBastable

02-13-2011, 05:05 AM

Underwhelming. 5/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9-NOIalUYU&feature=related

Well, certainly not overwhelming. But not really underwhelming either. So - I dunno - whelming. 5/10

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg7jA-H-jMo&feature=related)a lightweight voice used to perfectly-judged effect. Because of her provenance, Lily doesn't get taken as seriously as she should.

(You might not want to play this loud if your grandma's nearby. Though that depends on your grandma. Mine wouldn't have been in the least perturbed, the foul-mouthed old cow.)

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-13-2011, 05:59 PM

Talk about kids that like saying 'dick' in class, eh? Boring song with a message that's been delivered many times before in much more creative ways. Add the techno-laden music, and you have a real stinker. 2/10.

Thoughts on religion. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aywCuh2FJ8w)

I'm going to post the lyrics, too, because I love them:

(We'll cut you down to size)
There is a woman burning at the center square
Raven black eyes and long let out hair
Screaming, while cloaked vultures holier-than-thou circle and glare
At sweat drops on pale skin like satin
And as the raging flames work her into cinder
Said in their defence:
Stupidity and ignorance, prejudice and intolerance
All sound so much wiser when dressed up in Latin

Life will never be the same
I have a bigger world since I found God
Truth will never be the same
I'm in a righter mind since I found God
(I found God)
I found...

Mrs Modern Mother Mary, all pale and weary
From raising her overweight kids in the outskirts of Suburbia
On a nice Christian gender based salary
And a church she can merely attend
And there on the flip-side of Caucasia we see
Miss Modern Mary Magdalene gone Deep Throat
On international cable TV

So you keep talking about progress and equality
But to me, the crusade is still on my friend

Silly me who always thought
Life was for the living
And giving in to lust
Was all to give and to be given

Life will never be the same
I have a better view since I found God
Guilt will never be the same
I'm on a higher ground since I found God
I found God...

Life will never be the same
I have a better view now
There's always someone else to blame
I'm on the winning team now
Death will never be the same
I'm in the faster lane now
No more am I the one to blame
I have a juster cause now

Love will never be the same
Lust will never be the same
Shame will never be the same
I will never be the same
And
You will never be the same

sixsmith

02-14-2011, 03:30 AM

I am by no means averse to metal, but this is incredibly dull. 3/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kve_N8rmmQ

MarkBastable

02-14-2011, 04:22 AM

Even now, pretty much unsurpassed. 10/10

While we're in that vicinity.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYA7SpqCERE)

sixsmith

02-14-2011, 06:23 AM

Even now, pretty much unsurpassed. 10/10

While we're in that vicinity.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYA7SpqCERE)

Yep. 10/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKo_1rVClOk

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-14-2011, 07:01 AM

I am by no means averse to metal, but this is incredibly dull. 3/10.

That song isn't metal.

I've always liked Uncle Tupelo. 7/10.

This is metal. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KsPZ1f7MDs)

P.S. The Rolling Stones are the most overrated band in human history :nod:.

manolia

02-14-2011, 08:09 AM

That song isn't metal.

I've always liked Uncle Tupelo. 7/10.

This is metal. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KsPZ1f7MDs)

P.S. The Rolling Stones are the most overrated band in human history :nod:.

10/10 love them!! (watched them live last summer at sonisphere and they were simply great)

I am pretty sure there are no aggrotech links in this game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoXWshkpm38

The Comedian

02-14-2011, 02:35 PM

Really? Really?

1/10

If you're 30-somethin', you're gonna love this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVmq9dq6Nsg

manolia

02-14-2011, 02:53 PM

^^hehehe

7/10 (but the video did the trick)

seeing it's Valentine's day, here's something romantic : ]]]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3ncNXRuOlQ

Paulclem

02-14-2011, 06:30 PM

^^hehehe

7/10 (but the video did the trick)

seeing it's Valentine's day, here's something romantic : ]]]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3ncNXRuOlQ

Ha ha. Good idea and the song is ok. 7/10

A more conventional love song for valentine's Day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JACc2aIb9PQ

MarkBastable

02-14-2011, 08:04 PM

I could never get into Weller - I think it's something to do with his unremitting po-facedness. There's no glimmer of fun in the man. 4/10

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxeWBNwxYTk&feature=related)a song that Weller described as one of the two best records of the late Sixties. (The other was Waterloo Sunset.) Can't fault his taste, then.

Oniw17

02-14-2011, 11:11 PM

I like it, but the high points give me a bit of a headache. 8/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLR1jbsSLPk

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-14-2011, 11:58 PM

For hap/R&B, it's not as bad as it could be. 3/10.

For Valentine's Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUQNM2ugpxY)(if I posted this already, as I suspect I did, my apologies. It just seems fitting.)

Oniw17

02-15-2011, 12:50 AM

It was ok until it got to the screamy part. 5/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUZ8USLbHXs

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-15-2011, 01:41 AM

As a general rule, I hate rap. But I really liked this. Good message and nice melodic interludes. But, still, it's just too long. Thanks for posting some good rap, though :thumbsup:. 7/10

One of the closest things to rap I like. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxxuSiC4wNw) This guy is definitely gimmicky, and I really don't like his later work when he used so much techno-crap. But I love this song and his whole first live album. Love the good musicians he has with him.

OrphanPip

02-15-2011, 02:15 AM

I just can't get into that 4/10.

Valentine's is technically over, but I didn't get to post a sappy romantic themed song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hm7vWmFSEU&feature=related

manolia

02-15-2011, 05:09 AM

Not my cup of tea but cute and pleasant 6/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwsJlUdklmk

MarkBastable

02-15-2011, 06:00 AM

They almost lost me at 'behold'. Since 1880 or thereabouts, nobody using 'behold' has contributed much to the sum of human happiness.

However, I stuck with it and I have to say that the entire thing - music, vocal, video, general approach - was so unabashedly mannered and pretentious that I was seduced by its internally-consistent charm. I'm glad there are people out there producing such fathomless tosh. Just the fact that they can make it and get it to me inspires a sort of warm, reassured feeling about the democratic nature of the Web.

Yay, them.

7/10

Here's one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTIs-TBwcbk)that, if you classified it by genre, I'd have to say was not up my street. But a great song and a unique voice will transcend genre every time.

The Comedian

02-15-2011, 12:48 PM

I liked that one quite a bit. 7/10

I'm in the mood for somethin' wit' a little more funk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCBg0Yp4V6U&feature=related

Oniw17

02-15-2011, 01:34 PM

The kind of song that needs no lyrics. 8/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCQTr8ZYdhg

MarkBastable

02-15-2011, 06:54 PM

I'm not always completely convinced by the Floyd, but when they're good, they are very good indeed. 8/10

What do you say? You know any more? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WBelmO65J4&feature=related)

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-15-2011, 07:12 PM

Awesome Floyd song. 9.5/10

Winner of the Grammy for Best New Artist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9hIfyWLW4g) (someone who actually deserves a Grammy actually got one. Who would've thunk it?)

MarkBastable

02-15-2011, 07:45 PM

I'd already done the Floyd. You missed one.

But your Grammy winner - pretty good - and very unusual, in that context. So 8/10.

Back to the one that was skipped.

What do you say? You know any more? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WBelmO65J4&feature=related)

jmnixon95

02-15-2011, 08:06 PM

Dammit, I love the Beatles so much! Favorite is John.
10/10
I've always really liked this video.

Next: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSwJlv0Bljg

Paulclem

02-15-2011, 08:33 PM

Paulclem

02-15-2011, 08:42 PM

Dammit, I love the Beatles so much! Favorite is John.
10/10
I've always really liked this video.

Next: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSwJlv0Bljg

Great voice - 8/10. Peter Ustinov used to live next door to him, and in his autobiography reported his wife saying how dedicated Frank was to his songs. She said she heard him singing every day. Until once day they popped round on the off chance and caught Frank turning his record player off. Hmm

Ah that raw sound from the early 80s. Yet another that takes me back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvwMzSJ6RYs

The Comedian

02-15-2011, 09:04 PM

like it 6/10

More funk?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqWP1rsAMrw

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-15-2011, 11:23 PM

Loves me some Rage. Though, one of my lesser liked songs of theirs. Just doesn't stand up to anything from their first two. I'm still disappointed that they did a cover album for their last release. I've always wondered if they did it because they owed their label another contractual album.

Still, it's Rage. 7/10

I'd already done the Floyd. You missed one.

But your Grammy winner - pretty good - and very unusual, in that context. So 8/10.

:lol:

Sorry about skipping yours. Not intentional, though it would've pained me to give one of your songs a high rating, which I would've had to with The Beatles.

Another from Esperanza Spalding. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNw46j0nNOs) A different sounding tune than the one I posted before, but I love this one, too. Song starts around 1:30 if you wanna skip the interview, though I found it interesting.

sixsmith

02-16-2011, 06:43 AM

How can you fail with a name like Esperanza Spalding? 6/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdTucUya9YE

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-16-2011, 09:55 AM

Sorry, but that was just horrible. 1/10.

Love a little literature in my metal. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7zk4as9kzA)

sixsmith

02-16-2011, 04:24 PM

Hearty fare. 8/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipehdaDw7v4&feature=related

Paulclem

02-16-2011, 08:22 PM

Hearty fare. 8/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipehdaDw7v4&feature=related

Good 7/10

I like this Clapton song, but it took a couple of listenings to fully realise what he was on about. You know how it is - you like the song - you start to sing along to it...in the office... I know, I'm an idiot...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bGz7fMBj7o

qimissung

02-16-2011, 10:55 PM

Good 7/10

I like this Clapton song, but it took a couple of listenings to fully realise what he was on about. You know how it is - you like the song - you start to sing along to it...in the office... I know, I'm an idiot...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bGz7fMBj7o

:lol: 8/10 It is pretty, Paulclem. I don't know about singing it at the office.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrlDMGHsoz0&feature=related

OrphanPip

02-16-2011, 11:15 PM

8/10 One of The Clash songs I like, I find them really hit or miss sometimes. I can't stand Rock the Casbah, Should I Stay or Should I go Now, and Train in Vain. I like Complete Control, London Calling and White Man.

Let's go back to a song from the winner of the Best Album Grammy, from when only hippest of the hipsters knew who they were.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwcaDvr8f1o

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-16-2011, 11:23 PM

I won't go into another anti-indie rant, so I'll just give it a 2/10.

I need cleansing after Arcade Fire. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb0Qjw2eRtE)

OrphanPip

02-16-2011, 11:32 PM

Haha, I don't think our musical taste can ever mesh well MM 3/10

So, let's take another approach and I'll post something I think is ridiculously horrible, but provides some sort of fascinating kitsch appeal. South African rap, I think it's about having a large penis or something, I find it difficult to understand.

Video not appropriate for kiddies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbW9JqM7vho&feature=related

Edit: I think it may be promoting safe-sex as well lol.

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-16-2011, 11:40 PM

What the **** was that? The line, "Don't touch my penis, I'm not a gay," had me laughing, though. An ironic line, seeing as he's surrounded by penises. 8/10 for the absurdity.

And, I don't know about that, OrphanPip. I've yet to meet anyone I can't find some sort of musical commonality with. I mean, surely you like The Beatles? That's too easy, though. How about this, from a favorite metal band of mine. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF68P5N1RJM)

OrphanPip

02-16-2011, 11:53 PM

What the **** was that? The line, "Don't touch my penis, I'm not a gay," had me laughing, though. An ironic line, seeing as he's surrounded by penises. 8/10 for the absurdity.

There has to be some sort of logic behind it but the cultural difference just makes it bizarre beyond belief.

And, I don't know about that, OrphanPip. I've yet to meet anyone I can't find some sort of musical commonality with. I mean, surely you like The Beatles? That's too easy, though. How about this, from a favorite metal band of mine. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF68P5N1RJM)

See, I'm not even that crazy over melodic metal, but it's more tolerable than the last song 5.5/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh9XgGGh4L4

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-17-2011, 12:24 AM

I hate Will Smith and his spawn more every day. 1/10.

Fitting. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM0hNZ50Tps)

sixsmith

02-17-2011, 12:48 AM

That was cleansing. 7/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKmEky7SPIQ

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-17-2011, 05:13 PM

That was cleansing. 7/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKmEky7SPIQ

A little black metal, eh? I can't say I'm the biggest fan of CoF, but the music is wonderful vocals aside (as I find with most black metal). 8.10.

Possibly the most controversial and "hardcore" black metal band out there. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnLxt-pGkJE&feature=related)

Paulclem

02-17-2011, 05:22 PM

A little black metal, eh? I can't say I'm the biggest fan of CoF, but the music is wonderful vocals aside (as I find with most black metal). 8.10.

Possibly the most controversial and "hardcore" black metal band out there. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnLxt-pGkJE&feature=related)

Hmm - you see you keep posting stuff I'd need an operation to be able to sing along to. I didn't like the tune; it seemed like a kind of jazz metal. I like metal, not keen on jazz. 1/10

By the way what's controvercial about them? If it's anything about the music - well it's been done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7kUDkK70qQ

MarkBastable

02-17-2011, 06:20 PM

A barrel of amphetamine-fuelled magnolia-and-formica laughs, as ever from Mr Weller. 4/10

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl0zi0FoauU)is so redolent of the eighties that it actually looks like a meticulously-designed spoof made only last week for some BBC 4 comedy show. But, no, in 1985, winsome girlie pop really was this quaint and bloodless and mannered.

jmnixon95

02-17-2011, 06:24 PM

Kind of good, actually... I like the beginning (pre-vocals.) 6/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Q9D4dcYng

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-17-2011, 06:43 PM

By the way what's controvercial about them? If it's anything about the music - well it's been done.

The controversy does not stem from the music, as you're correct, it's been done.

The vast majority of metal bands who use Satan as an image of their music use it as just that, an image (Alis Cooper, Black Sabbath/Ozzy, even Slayer and Cannibal Corpse admit to it being mostly show--they don't really worship Satan). Very few actually worship Satan. Not so with Gorgoroth. They are true Satanists, especially their lead vocalist, Gaahl. Still, this isn't what's controversial, though it helps add to it (many of the Norwegian black metal bands profess to be Satan-worshippers in the true sense). Gorgoroth even professes that they aren't mostly about the music they create, but the message they send.

Some of the controversy stems from a series of over 50 church burnings that were committed by black metal musicians/fans in the 90s. Though Gaahl has never been implicated as taking part, he has openly praised the actions, and has stated that Christianity needs to be wiped from the face of the Earth.

Controversy also comes from a live performance that took place in Poland in 2004, in which, from Wikipedia (and cited on Wikipedia):

the band displayed sheep heads on stakes, a bloodbath of 80 litres of sheep's blood, Satanic symbols, and four naked crucified models on stage. A police investigation took place with allegations of religious offence (which is prosecutable under Polish law) and cruelty to animals.

Gaahl was also imprisoned for nine months after being convicted of assault. Not only was this just a beating, but it allegedly went on for hours, Gaahl tying the man to a chair and torturing him and allegedly making him drink his own blood (the man he was beating's blood, that is) that he collected in cups. This is rumor, though Gaahl, to my knowledge, has nt denied doing it. When asked if he regrets his actions, he says he neither regrets them or is proud of them. At one point when asked why he did it (and I'm paraphrasing), he said, "When you start something, you have to finish it.

Add to that Gaahl lives in a small mountain Cabin isolated for miles from any other living person in Norway, and you have yourself the making of an infamous metal legend. Let me say I do not condone any of Gaahl's actions, nor do I endorse church burnings; quite the opposite. Still, I find the story of this band fascinating. There's a really interesting documentary about all of this, including interviews with Gaahl. I question how much of Gaahl's persona is an act (the Norway setting alone is enough to help it), but I'm pretty sure he's got a couple screws loose, even if all the rumors are untrue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4U33U_UyzQ

I'll let the next poster rate jmnixon95's song.

sixsmith

02-17-2011, 07:26 PM

Kind of good, actually... I like the beginning (pre-vocals.) 6/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Q9D4dcYng

9/10. What more can be said? You can draw a straight line from The Beatles to every innovative rock or pop artist of the last 30 years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQaUs5J2wdI&feature=related

Paulclem

02-17-2011, 07:30 PM

Paulclem

02-17-2011, 07:36 PM

9/10. What more can be said? You can draw a straight line from The Beatles to every innovative rock or pop artist of the last 30 years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQaUs5J2wdI&feature=related

Great song. 10/10

It reminded me of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgGqv-H4LxQ

Paulclem

02-17-2011, 07:37 PM

The controversy does not stem from the music, as you're correct, it's been done.

The vast majority of metal bands who use Satan as an image of their music use it as just that, an image (Alis Cooper, Black Sabbath/Ozzy, even Slayer and Cannibal Corpse admit to it being mostly show--they don't really worship Satan). Very few actually worship Satan. Not so with Gorgoroth. They are true Satanists, especially their lead vocalist, Gaahl. Still, this isn't what's controversial, though it helps add to it (many of the Norwegian black metal bands profess to be Satan-worshippers in the true sense). Gorgoroth even professes that they aren't mostly about the music they create, but the message they send.

Some of the controversy stems from a series of over 50 church burnings that were committed by black metal musicians/fans in the 90s. Though Gaahl has never been implicated as taking part, he has openly praised the actions, and has stated that Christianity needs to be wiped from the face of the Earth.

Controversy also comes from a live performance that took place in Poland in 2004, in which, from Wikipedia (and cited on Wikipedia):

Gaahl was also imprisoned for nine months after being convicted of assault. Not only was this just a beating, but it allegedly went on for hours, Gaahl tying the man to a chair and torturing him and allegedly making him drink his own blood (the man he was beating's blood, that is) that he collected in cups. This is rumor, though Gaahl, to my knowledge, has nt denied doing it. When asked if he regrets his actions, he says he neither regrets them or is proud of them. At one point when asked why he did it (and I'm paraphrasing), he said, "When you start something, you have to finish it.

Add to that Gaahl lives in a small mountain Cabin isolated for miles from any other living person in Norway, and you have yourself the making of an infamous metal legend. Let me say I do not condone any of Gaahl's actions, nor do I endorse church burnings; quite the opposite. Still, I find the story of this band fascinating. There's a really interesting documentary about all of this, including interviews with Gaahl. I question how much of Gaahl's persona is an act (the Norway setting alone is enough to help it), but I'm pretty sure he's got a couple screws loose, even if all the rumors are untrue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4U33U_UyzQ

I'll let the next poster rate jmnixon95's song.

Thanks for all the effort Mutatis - very interesting.:thumbs_up

MarkBastable

02-18-2011, 03:16 AM

Baby Now That I've Found You is one of dozens of songs - including The Letter, Band of Gold, Build Me Up Buttercup, Judy in Disguise, Walk Away Renee, Wichita Lineman - that I have known all my life but which I didn't consciously register as wonderful until well into my thirties. I think I'd written them off as 'just pop songs'. 9/10

Paddy McAloon's stuff was melodic, intelligent, intricate and honest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWRgHVamt7g&feature=related)- but he made it look so effortless that he got less recognition than he deserved, I think.

sixsmith

02-18-2011, 06:21 PM

Paddy McAloon's stuff was melodic, intelligent, intricate and honest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWRgHVamt7g&feature=related)- but he made it look so effortless that he got less recognition than he deserved, I think.

McAloon is criminally underrated, though he deserves a certain amount of obscurity for naming his band Prefrab Sprout. 9/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwG9mypJhoU

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-18-2011, 07:29 PM

Always liked Johnny Cash, and always love his covers. 9/10.

A great comedic metal band. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYHuQTvJ4kU)

Paulclem

02-18-2011, 07:31 PM

McAloon is criminally underrated, though he deserves a certain amount of obscurity for naming his band Prefrab Sprout. 9/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwG9mypJhoU

I too like Wichita Lineman. I haven't heard this version. 8/10. I think Glen's version is a 9/10 because his melodic voice seems to suit the tune better.

I liked Prefab sprout too. Here's another that I've always liked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHbYLjWEEQA

Great wah wah.

qimissung

02-19-2011, 12:39 AM

Hmmm, a little repetitive, Paul, 7/10

My son introduced me to this performer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be-loLSUWT0

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-19-2011, 02:15 AM

Pretty good, obviously a very talented musician and a great song to cover (if not overplayed). 8/10.

Are you a fan of System of a Down, qimissung?

And, since I got skipped (not intentionally), I'll repost mine.

A great comedic metal band. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYHuQTvJ4kU)

MarkBastable

02-19-2011, 11:11 AM

A great comedic metal band. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYHuQTvJ4kU)

The problem with parodying metal - like the problem with parodying horror movies - is that knowing self-mockery is built in to the form, so it tends to be funnier when it's serious than when it's funny. Still, I quite like that - once. 5/10

The best thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlWeVY64TpU) to come out of the Velvet Underground...

qimissung

02-19-2011, 01:59 PM

That was quite beautiful. 10/10

Here is a favorite song as sung by two of my favorite singers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1lqTaVWR9w

Paulclem

02-19-2011, 07:49 PM

That was quite beautiful. 10/10

Here is a favorite song as sung by two of my favorite singers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1lqTaVWR9w

It's ok. 5.5/10

How about this from the 80's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbr60I0u2Ng

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-21-2011, 01:48 AM

That video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in my country on copyright grounds. :(

sixsmith

02-21-2011, 05:01 AM

That video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in my country on copyright grounds. :(

You're not missing much. 4/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usl-h5f-8W0

Paulclem

02-21-2011, 05:59 AM

You're not missing much. 4/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usl-h5f-8W0

That's a great song 9/10.

Pity about Marvin. He lived in Holland for a year or so as an ordinary person. A family supported him through his drug problems, but he returned to the US. He had more success with sexual healing, and then died in a shooting incident involving his Father. He had gone back to the celebrity lifestyle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv_wZQJYlo0

The Comedian

02-21-2011, 02:15 PM

Love it. 8/10

But I'm in the mood for something slow, plaintive, and feminine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3Glod-RNc0

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-21-2011, 03:25 PM

I like Norah Jones, though I think she's a bit overrated. 6/10.

Evil :cornut: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akt3awj_Ah8&feature=related).

qimissung

02-21-2011, 10:38 PM

To my surprise, I like it. Love the video. 8/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb0zdsFK824

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-22-2011, 12:46 AM

It made me chuckle. I don't know if that's the intended response, but it wasn't one of displeasure, so 6/10.

Speed Incarnate. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXINemV8E_0)

sixsmith

02-22-2011, 02:43 AM

It made me chuckle. I don't know if that's the intended response, but it wasn't one of displeasure, so 6/10.

Speed Incarnate. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXINemV8E_0)

As a display of technical proficiency, 10/10. As a song, it lacked a certain, er, je ne sais quoi. 2/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5fOvcta3Ws

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-22-2011, 10:08 AM

As a display of technical proficiency, 10/10. As a song, it lacked a certain, er, je ne sais quoi. 2/10.

Agree completely. I'm not crazy about the song, but damn, George Kollias is a machine.

As for your song, it's alright. Never have been a huge fan of Peter Gabriel. All his songs are too repetitive for my taste. Leaving Genesis was the worst decision he ever made, in my opinion. 5/10.

Possibly my favorite instrumental ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P1RE5v_8FU)

Lokasenna

02-22-2011, 12:17 PM

Oh dear, no. That's horrible. It sounds like a truck-full of techno instruments going over a cliff. I could here Ginastera in there, but the original is so much better. 2/10.

How about something a little different? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATXV3DzKv68)

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-22-2011, 05:40 PM

I can see why one wouldn't like the ELP version, but it isn't like they did it without Ginastera's approval--quite the opposite, actually. He liked it so much it made him cry; he said about it, "You have captured the essence of my music, and no one's ever done that before."

As to your song, it's okay. Never been a fan of choir music. 4/10

Here's the original. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0k6KDXQo2k)

sixsmith

02-23-2011, 04:57 AM

MarkBastable

02-23-2011, 05:49 AM

sixsmith

02-23-2011, 07:29 AM

Nick Cave, the Ramones, Eels, Zappa - I don't necessarily like everything they do, but I'm glad someone's out there doing it. 6/10

Here's another (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbepiON2u08&feature=fvst)I regard in the same way.

If that song is indicative of their oeuvre, I'd hazard that Van der Graaf Generator's fan base is comprised mainly of virgins and/or the band's close friends and family. 2/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWF9MMxnekQ

MarkBastable

02-23-2011, 02:12 PM

If that song is indicative of their oeuvre, I'd hazard that Van der Graaf Generator's fan base is comprised mainly of virgins and/or the band's close friends and family. 2/10.

On the whole, you're right. I seem to remember waking up one morning in the summer of 1977, surrounded by empty gin bottles and unfamiliar limbs, and thinking, "I'm not sure I like Van Der Graaf Generator quite as much as I did this time yesterday."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWF9MMxnekQ

There are all sorts of ways in which bands can be overrated, but none ever did it as comprehensively as the Pistols. 3/10

Whenever one of those 'favourite albums' conversations comes up, I rapidly narrow it down to four or five, and this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzp5hdO4deQ&playnext=1&list=PL93B87E51FBB25055)always makes the final table.

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-23-2011, 05:30 PM

MarkBastable

02-24-2011, 09:14 AM

Never understood the appeal of Tom Waits. 1/10.

Always reminds me of the Bowzer levels of Super Mario Brothers. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCEDfZgDPS8)

P.S. Van Der Graf Generator is awesome. Prog forever.

It's the classical-stuff-that-ELP-covered thread! Which, to be fair to Keith Emerson, comprised most of my education in classical music.

I always thought it was 'Bear Mountain'. So it's 'Bare Mountain'?

Anyway, not bad at all. 7/10

While we're around there, this is one of my favourite melodies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1scluzlPz0&feature=related) in any genre.

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-24-2011, 10:14 AM

sixsmith

02-25-2011, 04:13 AM

I don't know. On the Mussorgsky album I have, it's titled "Night on Bare Mountain." Everywhere else I've seen it, it's titled "Night on Bald Mountain."

As to your song, a little slow and saft for my tastes, but still enjoyable. 7/10.

Continuing with my ELP cover theme. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y1x04hAUT4)

Emerson, Lake and Palmer are at once both a testament to the commercial and artistic possibilities of progressive rock, and a salutary reminder as to why it is, when all is said and done, largely a waste of time. 6/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLFLrTnue9s

MarkBastable

02-25-2011, 07:09 AM

Emerson, Lake and Palmer are at once both a testament to the commercial and artistic possibilities of progressive rock, and a salutary reminder as to why it is, when all is said and done, largely a waste of time. 6/10.

It's an interesting observation, and worth a bit of exploration.

The late John Peel - who, as non-Brits may not not know, was the most respected DJ on the BBC, and who provided a route to the airwaves for just about every emergent genre of popular music from the late Sixties to the Nineties - once mused that he'd been mistaken about what would be remembered.

"I thought that the progressive stuff would be the legacy - ELP, Genesis, Yes - but it turned out that what really stayed with people was Build Me Up Buttercup."

(I'm paraphrasing - I can't find the actual quote.)

He wasn't bitter or defensive about it - he was simply admitting to having backed the wrong horse.

But actually, he wasn't as wrong as he thought. People do still listen to the prog stuff from the Seventies (especially in America), and it's not just fifty-somethings harking back to their youth. 'Progressive' music is as much part of the canon as Motown and bubblegum and Britpop.

And that's all it is. What prog failed to do was change everything. Foxtrot didn't represent an evolutionary advance from Sgt Pepper, from which there was no turning back. It was a new branch - just another limb of a tree that kept growing in every direction at once.

George Martin said that the great shame about the Beatles splitting up was that they were on the verge of developing a completely new format for pop music - one that transcended the three-minute song. You can see his point. While prog adopted the forms - and quite often the content - of classical music, or attempted to address themes more usually associated with 'serious' art, the second side of Abbey Road represented an innovative exploration of what pop music could do that was firmly rooted in what it had done up to then. That, had it been pursued, might have changed everything in a way that prog failed to.

So I don't think that prog rock is largely a waste of time - or, at least, no more of a waste of time than jazz-rock or Stax - but I do think that it sets itself up for a quite pointed form of hubris, because its aspires to something more than merely being a sub-genre of pop music. If one regards it in the same light as any other sub-genre, then - predictably - there's good stuff and bad stuff. One picks and chooses, and then launches oneself into exactly the kind of arguments for and against that this thread's set up to provoke.

Having said that, sixsmith, my taste in music and yours seem to coincide most of the time, so I consider it my sacred duty to put you right about the intermittent genius of Paul Simon. So - 7/10 for Springsteen, and here's the crooning gnome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NboaT3mDWD4) doing his bit for zydeco.

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-25-2011, 11:03 AM

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-26-2011, 07:58 PM

Bump. This is, in my useless opinion, the best forum game here, so I'm selfishly bumping it (and, please, don't let my petulance at criticism of my songs stop you from doing so...though I'd think the likelihood of that wouldn't be huge with Pictures at an Exhibition).

Paulclem

02-26-2011, 08:52 PM

Bravo, Mark! I was just going to say that if prog was a waste of time, so were almost every other genre of music that isn't popular in the main stream. You did a much better job defending the greatness of (good) prog.

As to the your song: I really like Paul Simon. Just not that particular song so much. 4/10.

"Promenade" of Pictures at an Exhibition. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5r8sa863Ts)Right now, this is my favorite piece of classical music. So great.

Good 7/10

Mark's mention of John Peel in the post above reminded me of Peel's favourite song by The Undertones - a simple song with a good raw sound. I always thought Feargal Sharkey was unhealthily skeletal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oskM5XD_Yc4

OrphanPip

02-26-2011, 08:57 PM

Good 7/10

Mark's mention of John Peel in the post above reminded me of Peel's favourite song by The Undertones - a simple song with a good raw sound. I always thought Feargal Sharkey was unhealthily skeletal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oskM5XD_Yc4

Alright, but I'm not crazy over it 6/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0JSZu4t388

Edit: Sorry if you haven't seen the opera, but yes Dido dies at the end.

Paulclem

02-26-2011, 09:46 PM

Alright, but I'm not crazy over it 6/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0JSZu4t388

Edit: Sorry if you haven't seen the opera, but yes Dido dies at the end.

Yes, I'd have given it 6 too. I don't like opera - call me uncultured - I've been called worse - but I don't like the singing. Technically it must be good, but I don't find the technicality does anything for my ears.
3/10

Now what to follow it with?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOO8-Jp-xsg

OrphanPip

02-26-2011, 09:55 PM

It's not my favourite Beatles' song, partly for the crazy video 9/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgPqmRNjoTE

qimissung

02-26-2011, 11:32 PM

I don't think Ringo gets enough credit for the delightfully whimsical nature of the songs he contributed. Loved the video! 8/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgDXy5kTokQ

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-27-2011, 12:06 AM

8/10 because it The Beatles, but not one of my favorites--I prefer the "serious" songs over the "light-hearted."

Arguably the first true heavy metal song ever composed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpLs0Wt6an4) (You may be surprised.)

OrphanPip

02-27-2011, 01:54 AM

Not surprised, mostly because I've heard every Beatles song, I wouldn't call it metal though, it's hard-rock and pretty heavily influenced by The Who. 7/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJIqnXTqg8I

JuniperWoolf

02-27-2011, 04:00 AM

I like it, especially the instrumentals. 7/10, probably eight if I were in the right mood.

This one comes to you from Turkey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4WIkRD5Bpw

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-27-2011, 03:08 PM

Not surprised, mostly because I've heard every Beatles song, I wouldn't call it metal though, it's hard-rock and pretty heavily influenced by The Who.

Low, driving bass line. Pounding drums. Heavy, distorted guitars. Yelling vocals. Trust me, it's metal. The Who was a heavy influence on metal, also.

This one comes to you from Turkey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4WIkRD5Bpw

I can't say I necessarily enjoyed it. But, I usually find music from other cultures very interesting, and this was no exception. And I really liked the trippy video. 6/10.

Back to my roots. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36GoW5T-Qsg)

OrphanPip

02-27-2011, 04:26 PM

It's alright, 6/10

I'm not sure I can forgive them for what happened to the Stanley Cup in Dallas, tsk tsk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2dHheEgYDA

Kant

02-27-2011, 05:40 PM

2/10 Just not my type of music.

Next, The Wicked End by A7x. Anything less than a 8/10 and I curse you to 10 years bad literature

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roZbgp3W51A

qimissung

02-27-2011, 09:22 PM

I guess I'm cursed. 2/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMEpaVL_WsU

Basil

02-27-2011, 09:52 PM

Man, what a voice. 9/10

OrphanPip, the gentleman starring in that Of Montreal video is Josh McKay. I used to live down the street from him. For a brief time, he and I fancied the same girl--who, as it turned out, fancied Josh's brother Misch.

Josh and Misch were in a band called Macha. Their musical style was...unique:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tlk8cu8wxw&feature=related

Kant

02-28-2011, 01:22 AM

5/10

Not one I would listen to regularly, but nice. Great mesh of two different styles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmDTSQtK20c&feature=related

Mutatis-Mutandis

02-28-2011, 01:36 AM

8/10. Funny song.

But, for my money, when it comes to comedy in music, nothing beats Frank Zappa. Add to that he was a musical genius, and you have a man as yet unequaled.

Punky, Punky, give me your lips to die on . . . I promise not to come in your mouth! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f50U1liJtuU)

Kant

02-28-2011, 03:45 AM

4/10

Sorry, I just do not get his genius. I will listen to more. So really, its a 4 with a promise of more attention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCvMKcNJCAY

MarkBastable

02-28-2011, 11:38 AM

It really helps not to listen too closely to Led Zeppelin's lyrics, but as a purveyors of impressive, operatic bombast, they're difficult to beat - when you're in the mood.

Then again, ambivalent though I am about the music, if I could have had anyone's life in the Seventies, it would have been Robert Plant's. 7/10

Meanwhile, at the other end of the spectrum of artistic intention, meet my relations, all of them grinning like facepacks. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptHhqtyX1IQ&feature=related)

Shalot

02-28-2011, 11:48 PM

5/10 it made me nervous

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AOp9c5DRzc

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-01-2011, 12:38 AM

Not bad. 6/10.

Love this song. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSh2-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSh2-gDn82k&playnext=1&list=PL0F386DECD47C56F0)

Basil

03-01-2011, 02:07 AM

Mike Patton is a genius, but this particular song does little for me. 6/10

I have long contemplated posting the following video in this thread, but my better sense has always prevailed.....until now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtDEmtwuTlI

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-01-2011, 07:29 AM

LOVED IT. I've always intended to check out Mr. Bungle, but this is the first song I've heard by them. I loved it. Probably going to get the album now. 10/10.

Avant-garde metal. Makes Mr. Bungle look like formulaic pop when it comes to weirdness. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvgDLx4VA1k&feature=related)

Paulclem

03-01-2011, 06:35 PM

I get the impression they're trying to be wierd and the result is a mish mash. 1/10

Do you like jazz Mutatis? A lot of the stuff you've posted seems to be jazz/ rock. I don't know if such a distinction exists, but that's what it reminds me of. It would explain my aversion - I'm ... not keen on jazz.

This Guy's voice is brilliant - and his suit is pretty good too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uErUVGoQLSA

I like the original version too. Catchy - I just need to make sure I don't sing it in the office...

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-01-2011, 08:09 PM

Paulclem

03-02-2011, 02:51 AM

I would have given that song a 6/10 the first time I heard it, but I'm so ****ing sick of it I can't give it higher than a 2/10.

Yeah, I love jazz. I love chaotic, intricate, complicate music. Really, anything that is challenging to listen to. There is a limit, though . . .

Like this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnv2r9AZucA) Though, I do love DEP's later work.

It's going to be a nightclub classic... (do they still have nightclubs?). I could have imagined singing along to it with the whole dancefloor in the past - (do they still have dance floors I wonder?).

I see where we diverge Mutatis - perhaps I should stop rating your songs. It's nothing personal. 2/10

From the other end of the scale.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNi8aW8Nf6s

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-02-2011, 10:20 AM

Please don't! I don't care if someone gives my songs a low rating (though, it can irk me when someone bashes a song without basis, but I've gotten over it). Anyways, I listen to a lot of music the vast majority of people don't like, so it's not unusual.

As to your song, I just don't generally like that 80s techno sound. Plus, the first singer sounded like a dude, lol. 3/10.

Something a little less chaotic. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHDhA35KR_I)

MarkBastable

03-02-2011, 11:03 AM

I would have given that song a 6/10 the first time I heard it, but I'm so ****ing sick of it I can't give it higher than a 2/10.

I'm reading that elision as 'so forgetting sick of it'.

I rather liked Stolen Babies, but that might be more the video than the song. 7/10

5:15 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR5v4yyPV6Y), in which Pete Townsend offers practical evidence of his own assertion that he was never much of a guitarist, but he could write a good tune.

Paulclem

03-02-2011, 01:47 PM

Paulclem

03-02-2011, 07:11 PM

I'm reading that elision as 'so forgetting sick of it'.

I rather liked Stolen Babies, but that might be more the video than the song. 7/10

5:15 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR5v4yyPV6Y), in which Pete Townsend offers practical evidence of his own assertion that he was never much of a guitarist, but he could write a good tune.

I was listening to The Who today in the office whilst working. Great stuff. 8.5/10 The video looks quitessentially British doesn't it.

I like this one. Didn't get it when I was young. :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BmkBroiw1s

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-03-2011, 12:50 AM

8/10. I like it, too. Moon's "drumming" is hilarious.

German progressive metal band. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dREjsCoKt64) Don't quit listening when the yelling starts--there's some very good singing later in the song.

faithosaurus

03-05-2011, 01:02 AM

Mm, 8/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUwxKWT6m7U

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-05-2011, 04:56 PM

Taylor Swift. She's just so nice and wholesome and sweet and safe ... I just can't stand her. She is a positive influence on many young girls, though, so that bumps her up to a 3/10.

After that, I need a palate cleanser. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnbAWlYXhg4)

OrphanPip

03-05-2011, 06:28 PM

Ack, maybe one day I'll open one of those links to a metal song and I'll have some sort of epiphany, but not this time. 4/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smqNtBXN5Mc

qimissung

03-05-2011, 08:23 PM

I liked it! 8/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE3KA7DdhQQ

Paulclem

03-05-2011, 08:42 PM

I liked it! 8/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE3KA7DdhQQ

Did - oh
Dye-doh
Did-doh
Di-doh ?

Nice song. 7.5

A nice contrast to ramp it up a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svdmgux-y2E

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-06-2011, 03:06 AM

Not something I'm into, but there's really nothing about it I find disagreeable aside from the repetition. 5/10

Ack, maybe one day I'll open one of those links to a metal song and I'll have some sort of epiphany, but not this time. 4/10

[laugh] If one wants to become a metal fan, or at least explore the genre, you don't start with Cannibal Corpse. It takes years of metal listening to build up to that and enjoy it (I can only take a few songs at a time). Any metal newbie needs to start with something like this, like I did.

It's a bit easier to wrap your head around. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU_ggFovJNo)

OrphanPip

03-06-2011, 03:49 AM

I've actually seen Metallica live once, still not all that enthused by their music 5/10.

I'm just willing to go to any concert as long as someone else is paying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzpHmbwqHLM&feature=related

MarkBastable

03-06-2011, 06:52 AM

Judas Priest - along with Saxon, Iron Maiden, Def Leppard - emerged from the neglected industrial heartlands of Great Britain in the Seventies, and forty years later that provenance really shows. They're as threatening, unpredictable and outrageous as a nice cup of tea and a slice of Victoria sponge. If this really is the Devil's music, then Beelzebub must have hung up his pitchfork and opened a yarn shop in Dudley. 4/10

Here's Lizzy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaGNAL_u-SU&feature=related), neatly staddling the line between metal and commercial rock. I said in an earlier post I'd have loved to have Robert Plant's life. I'd've settled, frankly, for Scott Gorman's hair.

OrphanPip

03-06-2011, 04:04 PM

Something just doesn't mesh for me, 5/10. To be honest I don't even like Judas Priest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0npq1MKg-MA

MarkBastable

03-06-2011, 04:16 PM

I really liked that, without quite knowing why. 9/10

Reminded me a little of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVpLxqTd0Mo&feature=related), in terms of approach.

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-06-2011, 04:59 PM

Judas Priest - along with Saxon, Iron Maiden, Def Leppard - emerged from the neglected industrial heartlands of Great Britain in the Seventies, and forty years later that provenance really shows. They're as threatening, unpredictable and outrageous as a nice cup of tea and a slice of Victoria sponge. If this really is the Devil's music, then Beelzebub must have hung up his pitchfork and opened a yarn shop in Dudley. .

What does where a band came from have anything to do with the quality of the music? Anyways, a lot of heavy metal bands come from nice, well-to-do suburban areas, and are rebelling against that very lifestyle.

As to your song, I liked it. Bizzarre, but in a good way. 8/10.

Gentle Giant - "Free Hand" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMrYSTzqFI8)

MarkBastable

03-06-2011, 05:11 PM

What does where a band came from have anything to do with the quality of the music?

I wasn't saying it had anything to do with the quality of the music. I was saying it was evident in the character of the music.

To a man of my age and background Gentle Giant are the occasion of skin-crawling embarrassment. I never owned a Gentle Giant album, but I know people who did, so I undergo mortification by association.

While we're in that area, here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeGbAz8Ri1U&feature=related)are some rather more melodic contemporaries of GG.

Paulclem

03-06-2011, 05:43 PM

I wasn't saying it had anything to do with the quality of the music. I was saying it was evident in the character of the music.

To a man of my age and background Gentle Giant are the occasion of skin-crawling embarrassment. I never owned a Gentle Giant album, but I know people who did, so I undergo mortification by association.

While we're in that area, here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeGbAz8Ri1U&feature=related)are some rather more melodic contemporaries of GG.

I like it. 7/10 Only four years to punk, and you can see why. They were funny times weren't they?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-9F_z0B2TA

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-06-2011, 05:50 PM

To a man of my age and background Gentle Giant are the occasion of skin-crawling embarrassment. I never owned a Gentle Giant album, but I know people who did, so I undergo mortification by association.

While we're in that area, here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeGbAz8Ri1U&feature=related)are some rather more melodic contemporaries of GG.

Oh, please. GG was an artistic breakthrough. That song was popish, cliche-ridden rubbish. 2/10.

And, my bad Paul, you posted that while I was making this post. That song isn't bad. 6/10.

Now, I must punish you, MarkBastable! I can only hope you're the one to rate this song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mdsm5K8bHc&feature=related), hahahahaha :devil:

MarkBastable

03-06-2011, 06:04 PM

I prefer the unplugged version. 1/10

Back for a moment to unreconstructed, unembarrassed rock music.... 'Allo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzuIPCjsy9I&feature=fvsr).

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-08-2011, 12:04 AM

Yeah, it is unembarrassed. I'll give it that. 3/5. Seriously, Mark, do you like anything recorded within the last 25 years?

Jaco was to bass what Jimi was to guitar. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae0nwSv6cTU)

MarkBastable

03-08-2011, 04:07 AM

Yeah, it is unembarrassed. I'll give it that. 3/5. Seriously, Mark, do you like anything recorded within the last 25 years?

I don't even like most of what was recorded in the previous fifty, as many of my ratings here have shown.

Johnny Rotten said that 99% of rock music was sh**, and he intended it to be provocative. I think he was unnecessarily generous to rock music, because a large proportion of it is worse than sh** - it's mediocre.

Not that that's specific to rock music - practically all creative output in literature, art, music, drama, dance, film and tv is rubbish. It has always been so. This isn't a modern phenomenon - I'm not blaming dumb popular culture - but rubbish is much more accessible now than it's ever been.

And that means that quite a lot of the stuff I like is rubbish. If I'm a bit different to most, it's because I know this. Essentially, I split the stuff on this thread into a four square grid.

Good stuff I like......... Good stuff I don't like.
Rubbish I like.................Rubbish I don't like.

The bottom right corner is the largest by several factors of ten.

Weather Report would come into the top right corner. Very clever, but utterly unmoving. 5/10.

As to my apparent antipathy towards anything recorded in the last 25 years, I think that the response to that might be less straightforward than simply quoting my age. It might have something to do with a truth about pop and rock music. I'll touch on that later.

In the meantime, here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxczVhG0os8&feature=relmfu)something recorded in the last 25 years.

Lokasenna

03-08-2011, 05:33 AM

To my surprise, I rather liked that. The slightly folksy element really appealed. 6/10

How about some movie music? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-RPzAbW7No)

Paulclem

03-08-2011, 06:03 AM

I don't even like most of what was recorded in the previous fifty, as many of my ratings here have shown.

Johnny Rotten said that 99% of rock music was sh**, and he intended it to be provocative. I think he was unnecessarily generous to rock music, because a large proportion of it is worse than sh** - it's mediocre.

Not that that's specific to rock music - practically all creative output in literature, art, music, drama, dance, film and tv is rubbish. It has always been so. This isn't a modern phenomenon - I'm not blaming dumb popular culture - but rubbish is much more accessible now than it's ever been.

And that means that quite a lot of the stuff I like is rubbish. If I'm a bit different to most, it's because I know this. Essentially, I split the stuff on this thread into a four square grid.

Good stuff I like......... Good stuff I don't like.
Rubbish I like.................Rubbish I don't like.

The bottom right corner is the largest by several factors of ten.

Weather Report would come into the top right corner. Very clever, but utterly unmoving. 5/10.

As to my apparent antipathy towards anything recorded in the last 25 years, I think that the response to that might be less straightforward than simply quoting my age. It might have something to do with a truth about pop and rock music. I'll touch on that later.

In the meantime, here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxczVhG0os8&feature=relmfu)something recorded in the last 25 years.

The vid goes to proove Mark can tell his a*** from his elbow. Great song that.

Paulclem

03-08-2011, 06:07 AM

To my surprise, I rather liked that. The slightly folksy element really appealed. 6/10

How about some movie music? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-RPzAbW7No)

I was imagining Old Errol swinging from something as this was playing, and then on the slow bits him gazing wistfully out to sea from the prow of a ship with a girl on his arm. Ah those old Sunday afternoon movies.

6/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNf9rEPoc8Q

MarkBastable

03-08-2011, 07:41 AM

The vid goes to proove Mark can tell his a*** from his elbow. Great song that.

Thank you. Incidentally, I think that the built-in censor on this site is essentially American, so it'd probably let you get away with arse.

Which means that you can say that Sancho Panza was accustomed to getting around by plonking his arse on an ***.

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-08-2011, 10:20 AM

I was imagining Old Errol swinging from something as this was playing, and then on the slow bits him gazing wistfully out to sea from the prow of a ship with a girl on his arm. Ah those old Sunday afternoon movies.

6/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNf9rEPoc8Q

Love Queen. 9/10

An amazing guitar player. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt-RoSzsEKA)

MarkBastable

03-08-2011, 06:10 PM

But, Daddy, what's it for?

4/10 for tuning up an extra two strings.

Now this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCpxSzacbyc)is technical genius.

MystyrMystyry

03-08-2011, 07:23 PM

5/10 for being an intentionally bad joke that alas went on too long (entire career), balanced out by at least being original once and a joke at all

Here's something I know you'll all really detest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toHlMD50eYY

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-08-2011, 11:50 PM

I'm sure Mark would've, but not this guy. Love the Tull. 9/10.

If only all metal bands could be this good live. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKQSe3TatPQ)

MarkBastable

03-09-2011, 02:21 AM

I'm sure Mark would've, but not this guy. Love the Tull. 9/10.

If only all metal bands could be this good live. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKQSe3TatPQ)

For the record, I rather like aspects of the Tull, and this song in particular. Anderson had a cohesive world view, something worthwhile to say and he could summon the wit to say it. He was a bit of a closet conservative, but only in that nostalgic, tweedy, salmon-rearing way that's pretty much self-contained. Worth more than a cursory listen up to, say, Heavy Horses.

As to the metal band, I thought it was a work of unparallelled genius - limpid in its relevance, quixotic in its wit, mercurial in its virtuosity and palatial in its porcupine. A veritable 10/10, and it pains me that logic prevents the award of a higher accolade.

Not a million miles from the Tull, here's that friend of Zeps and Floyds, the inimitable and doggedly British Mr Roy Harper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljN3Xc2-qaA&feature=autoplay&list=PL4BB4BA3B8AA94943&index=40&playnext=2), the only man in rock music ever to contract anthrax having given the kiss of life to an ailing ewe.

The Comedian

03-09-2011, 04:15 PM

I really enjoyed that song: smart, funny, and lyrical. 9/10

Here's one from one of my favorite bands: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCP0G6z0aEo

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-09-2011, 05:43 PM

I really enjoyed that song: smart, funny, and lyrical. 9/10

Wait ... you liked the metal song? That's awesome! :hurray:I'm just not used to that happening.

The hard rock and grunge bands of the 90s were my precursor to heavy metal, and I still love them. I long for the days when there was good rock'n'roll in popular music.

EDIT (sorry, Comedian, totally meant to actually give your song a rating and then forgot): Like I said, I loved the 90s rock'n'roll scene, but Blind Melon was never a band I got into, but not because I didn't like them, just because I never got around to them. I quite enjoyed that song, though. 8.5/10.

This was one of my favorites. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHUd896Sur0&feature=related) Quite a sad tune when you realize what the lyrics are about.

MarkBastable

03-09-2011, 07:04 PM

Wait ... you liked the metal song? That's awesome! :hurray:I'm just not used to that happening.

...I hate to sneeze on your pizza, but I think he was referring to Roy Harper.

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-09-2011, 07:28 PM

Did you edit your post or something, Mark? Because I could've sworn your post said you'd let someone else rate the metal song..... I'm 99% sure I didn't imagine reading that. In any case, I sort of thought there was some sort of mistake with that rating.

Thanks for your 10/10, though. You were completely correct in your assessment, despite your esoteric use of adjectives.

MarkBastable

03-09-2011, 07:41 PM

Yeah, I edited. I got bored.

Aren't you going to rate The Comedian's offering before serving up pumpkin?

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-09-2011, 07:53 PM

Remedied. I had such a strong intention of giving a rating I even remember doing such. Probably got caught up in finding my own song to post. Happens quite often.

MarkBastable

03-12-2011, 11:16 AM

I have soft spot for the Pumpkins, but that didn't touch it. 5/10

This is my favourite version of what has become a compulsively-covered song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckbdLVX736U&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=MLGxdCwVVULXc9knIMP-EqofBVmngBld7D).

papayahed

03-12-2011, 11:47 AM

I like the KD Lang version better but this one isn't bad. 7.5/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAm0YQMEcEs

faithosaurus

03-12-2011, 02:09 PM

Hmm, kinda catchy. 6/10.

All right, really liking this song right now, and the video made it all the better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R3bLE1CiFs&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-12-2011, 07:49 PM

I have soft spot for the Pumpkins, but that didn't touch it. 5/10

Of course it didn't. :lol:

All right, really liking this song right now, and the video made it all the better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R3bLE1CiFs&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Well, the dancing made me laugh. A lot. What was with the headbanging? The songs was horrible, though, but for the laughing I'll give it 5/10.

I've had this song stuck in my head all day. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1hmI4eqzps) Also, possibly the best technical drummer ever.

OrphanPip

03-12-2011, 09:18 PM

Ug, 1/10, I like that even less than I usual like your metal songs.

Hmm, here is a video from the early days of Canada's illustrious history of exporting banal pop artists to the USA. See, you guys should have seen Justin Bieber coming because we've done it before. We're pathological re-offenders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKcCaCgMLBE

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-13-2011, 01:29 AM

Ug, 1/10, I like that even less than I usual like your metal songs.

Figured. Meshuggah is notoriously a-melodic and inaccessible, and are known for the driving rhythm that seems to pound into your skull. For most, it's quite unpleasant, but I love it. If one listens, though, you'll notice the drummer plays two distinct and separate beats throughout the same--quite impressive.

Hmm, here is a video from the early days of Canada's illustrious history of exporting banal pop artists to the USA. See, you guys should have seen Justin Bieber coming because we've done it before. We're pathological re-offenders.

Sweet! Something else to blame Canada for! Not only can we blame you for Bieber, but the whole of ****ty child pop-stars. 2/10.

Stick with this one, it becomes more melodic and accessible as it goes along. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q5qvft2i-s)

MarkBastable

03-13-2011, 05:13 AM

Stick with this one, it becomes more melodic and accessible as it goes along. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q5qvft2i-s)

Having watched the video all the way through, I note that you're using 'accessible' here in its rarely employed sense of 'merely irritating'. 2/10

Here's Cale (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Bn0Kq7rls&feature=related)once more, covering another classic - and I have to say I prefer this to the original by a mile.

The Comedian

03-13-2011, 10:30 PM

It seemed a little drawn out to me. I wanted to say to him "dude, every syllable doesn't have to last a full four-count".

That said, it's not terrible. 4/10

Here's one from the 'mats. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_NzPt8YyD8)

papayahed

03-14-2011, 07:22 PM

Pretty good. 8/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIGMUAMevH0

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-14-2011, 10:30 PM

Having watched the video all the way through, I note that you're using 'accessible' here in its rarely employed sense of 'merely irritating'. 2/10

:smilielol5: Is there ever an end to your razor-sharp wit, Mark?

Pretty good. 8/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIGMUAMevH0

Love the ol' Bosstones. But, this one of my least favorite songs by them, probably due mostly to hearing it innumerable times when it was a hit. Still, 6.5/10.

Really getting to love Dvorak. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OAXCy3YS54) Also love watching this composer as he can't help but sing along.

OrphanPip

03-14-2011, 11:30 PM

Dvorak is good stuff, even if I can only take late Romantic composers in small doses 8/10.

Here is the sound of the American West, as composed by a gay Russian Jew.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqah1rucyRg&feature=related

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-15-2011, 12:51 AM

Here is the sound of the American West, as composed by a gay Russian Jew.

:lol: That gave me a chuckle.

I do like this piece, only if I can disassociate myself from all its commercial use, which is tough. When I can, though, it's a 8/10.

I must admit, though, I like this version better--probably a blasphemous statement to the classical community. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFCniNYZoFg)

MarkBastable

03-15-2011, 02:49 AM

Quite jolly, considering. 6/10

Another adaptation of a classic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThSIVW6eb58), from the days when a keyboard player couldn't get into any decent parties unless he'd rearranged The Valkyries for glockenspiel and moog.

Personally, I think this one's a bit feeble and bloodless.

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-15-2011, 04:40 PM

Paulclem

03-15-2011, 06:55 PM

7/10. I was proud of myself for knowing it was from Holst's Planets Suite, Jupiter in particular.

My other favorite version of Hoedown. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fu2s2H-hlc) (Song starts at around 2:00 if you want to get right to it.)

Never listened to that type of music before. They were really good. 9/10

My daughter used to listen to Bollywood music and watch the films, which is where I came across this version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hdjp1lEeWU

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-15-2011, 07:35 PM

Sorry, but just not my thing, in any language. Though, I liked that it didn't take itself seriously and realized what it was: a goofy pop song, so I'll be really generous: 5/10.

I'm glad you liked Bela, Paul. I like to describe them as bluegrass jazz fusion. If there's another band out there like them, I haven't found 'em. The put on an absolutely amazing show, and their bass player is possibly the best alive.

Here's another of theirs, an original and a personal favorite. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q50xzhDO9lI)

Paulclem

03-16-2011, 08:17 PM

papayahed

03-16-2011, 08:24 PM

I've always liked that song. 8.5/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mOzRNfuH7g

Paulclem

03-16-2011, 08:32 PM

I've always liked that song. 8.5/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mOzRNfuH7g

I've not heard that one by Ozzy before. He's a laugh isn't he. 8/10 - good metal sound.

I haven't listened to this for a while. It takes me back to teen parties I used to go to. It was always on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9hLcRU5wE4

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-16-2011, 10:48 PM

Not bad. 6/10.

This song because it's currently playing on my Pandora. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfK9F3als1k) It's a long one--here's part 2. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtHVOLK56tI&feature=related)

MatthewFarlow

03-16-2011, 10:54 PM

Boy, that is a long one! I'm going with seven-tenths because I enjoyed the intro.

Next one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs1bG6BIYlo&feature=bf_next&list=QL&index=2

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-16-2011, 11:09 PM

Interesting. 5/10.

God is dead. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09dFfqdVDi0&feature=fvwrel)

OrphanPip

03-17-2011, 02:48 AM

manolia

03-17-2011, 06:36 AM

That was bad 2/10 (the 2 for the cute young singer)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHW2CF4GF-8

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-17-2011, 08:59 AM

Finally, someone else posts some ****ing metal. :cornut: 9/10.

Gotta dig the Wagner. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqezCR_XzaI)

MarkBastable

03-17-2011, 02:27 PM

The name Big Country reminded me of these. They didn't do as much as they might have done.

Oh, I think they did.

There was an item in Viz magazine's Top Tips column at the time which read:

Big Country fans! Save yourself the cost of Big Country's new album by buying the single and playing it nine times!

OrphanPip

03-17-2011, 02:37 PM

That was bad 2/10 (the 2 for the cute young singer)

Really? I'm not usually a mean person, but she looks like one of those teenagers that make me thank God for my non-procreative nature.

MarkBastable

03-17-2011, 02:40 PM

Really? I'm not usually a mean person, but she looks like one of those teenagers that make me thank God for my non-procreative nature.

I'm procreative as all get-out, but she is enough to make me wonder whether you might not be on to something, lifeorientationchoicewise.

OrphanPip

03-17-2011, 02:45 PM

I'm procreative as all get-out, but she is enough to make me wonder whether you might not be on to something, lifeorientationchoicewise.

The fundamentalist wouldn't be concerned about our secret agenda if it wasn't so enticing, would they?

@Wagner, I have this thing against Overtures, but I'll give it 7/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C17yfGyJjM

MarkBastable

03-17-2011, 02:59 PM

Very odd and very good. 9/10

Incibloodydentally, why has no one drawn my attention to the Dresden Dolls before now? I mean, I sometimes wonder why I keep you people on....

Black t-shirt.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iih7mFHVUIY&feature=fvwrel)

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-17-2011, 04:37 PM

I have this thing against Overtures

Why?

And, I couldn't rate Mark's song--banned in my country.

qimissung

03-20-2011, 01:21 AM

I think we know how this goes, 3/10

This follow video has exploded in popularity this week almost entirely off of its reputation as the worst song ever. It went from 3000 to 7 million views in 5 days and has cracked the top 100 on itunes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0

What? The lyrics stunning in their depth of feeling. Quit hatin', ya'll. She's a darling girl and deserves her moment in the spotlight. And I must say that her use of auto tune is quite simply masterful.

I'm from the states, too, MarkBastable, and as such am also banned from listening to the next song. Rats.

MystyrMystyry

03-20-2011, 02:22 AM

Ben Folds gets 7/10 for being nearly as inventive a Elvis Costello, and it's an okay rompy tune - doesn't jar like it easily could have

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLrnkK2YEcE

papayahed

03-20-2011, 02:45 PM

It seemed like it was just odd for the sake of being odd. 5/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiJfu7KvqDw

manolia

03-20-2011, 03:52 PM

I like that kind of music..reminds me of Cohen's films so a 10/10

(don't mind the video)
There's definitely something in the water in that part of the world since it has produced some of my all time favorite bands

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLmspcgrYrY

Really? I'm not usually a mean person, but she looks like one of those teenagers that make me thank God for my non-procreative nature.

Nah. I mostly feel sorry for the justin biebers of this world (both male and female).

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-20-2011, 11:57 PM

I'm so glad this thread is going again. Was about to bump it.

As to the above song. Liked it up until the talking started. Really created a great mood, but that talking just took it down a notch. Still, there wasn't a ton of it, so 5.5/10.

Renaissance meets rock'n'roll. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1HyOz-y8UI)

manolia

03-21-2011, 05:05 PM

Not exactly what i'd buy for myself but nice 7/10

From the concert i attended on Saturday, i adore them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR4mbGBYDRA&feature=related

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-21-2011, 11:01 PM

Not bad. I had reservations from their name, but I found it surprisingly good. 8/10. How was the show?

Tech-metal-jazz-fusion. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHAUQNTwYZo)

metal134

03-22-2011, 02:41 AM

Those guys are clearly fans of Dream Theater. 7/10

Here's one from one of my favorite bands, Opeth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8V-ueepk9s

manolia

03-22-2011, 05:30 AM

Not bad. I had reservations from their name, but I found it surprisingly good. 8/10. How was the show?

Glad you liked it..Paradise Lost is a british band, the one who actually founded gothic metal and they have achieved legendary status among lovers of the genre. They don't have a good reputation concerning their live performances (they always seem like they are bored or something and they never perform more than 90 minutes) but this time they were great.

Those guys are clearly fans of Dream Theater. 7/10

Here's one from one of my favorite bands, Opeth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8V-ueepk9s
I keep hearing about Opeth and how good they are. I admit this song was really good 9/10 (i bet it's time i gave them a go).

Here's some darkwave/ electro gothic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEPWMMNqqzc

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-22-2011, 09:12 AM

I'm not usually into the electronic sound, but that song was definitely interesting and well written. 7/10.

And, thumbs up on the Opeth, also one of my favorite bands--they are just brilliant.

Opeth was my favorite prog-metal band, but these guys have taken the top spot, for now. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovq8QlYE_q4)

metal134

03-22-2011, 02:26 PM

I've only recently began getting into these guys. They can get pretty crazy at times. That one seemed like one of their more straightforward songs, for lack of a better term. 9/10

Some old school meta; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlLn0UicWrM.

I actually got to see Joey Beladonna play last week at a local metal club (my buddy's band was also on the bill). Just this dinky little place. So small, you could stand right up against the stage. I was literally two feet away.

MarkBastable

03-22-2011, 06:09 PM

i've been laying off this thread since it got into a metal groove simply because it would be so predictable for me to haul in and say something snotty. As a lot of the regulars have failed to contribute, I suspect I'm not the only one to have adopted this approach, which manages to be at once actively accommodating and passively condescending.

Man, it's tough tryna do the right thing.

However, I've had a crap day, and when I'm pissed off, I type.

I think the Anthrax thing is utterly, and irritatingly, formulaic. Then again, I recognise that a lot of the stuff I like is formulaic, and my defence can only be that those formulae don't irritate me. So - objectively - yeah, it does what it's supposed to do. Subjectively, what it's supposed to do doesn't appeal to me. And that singer's sh*t. 3/10

Given the choice between easing us out of the current genre by posting some Alice or Budgie, or hitting the hyperspace button and taking us to another part of the universe, I think I'll go for this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y2E5znsrAE&feature=related). Sociologically indefensible and I don't even like Big Band stuff - but witty, beautifully contrived rhymes, and, man, the voice.

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-22-2011, 10:36 PM

Yeah. We're the ones being condescending. You haven't done that with any of the songs I or anyone else has posted, Mark.

Anyways, I post more than metal. No one's forcing anyone not to post here. I don't see why other regulars wouldn't. Me alone posting metal songs never stopped you guys from ****ting on them.

Anyways....

As to your song, the beginning was hilarious. Laughed out loud. Then the song started. And I really enjoyed it. I've always enjoyed music from that era, not so much for the music itself (which I do enjoy on a certain level--I'd just never buy a CD of it or anything; one or two songs and I've had my fill) but for the history it gives. I feel a strange, far-off connection to this music. I know it's what my father watched when he was a child and what my grandparents always looked forward to. Even now, I remember walking into my late grandfather's shed (his true home) and hearing this music playing. Plus, this song struck me as surprisingly erotic. 9/10.

One of my favorite jazz musicians. I love watching him move while playing. One of the comments offers one of the best descriptions of his music I've read/heard: "HIs playing is occasionally sloppy, his fingers may be clumsy and his technique sometimes lacking, and his ideas not fully thought out, BUT THIS GUY IS OUT OF THIS WORLD. His music is unfathomable truth, so cool, so rockin', the notes so perfectly awkward, the rythyms so perfect." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMmeNsmQaFw)

metal134

03-23-2011, 12:52 AM

MarkBastable i've been laying off this thread since it got into a metal groove simply because it would be so predictable for me to haul in and say something snotty. As a lot of the regulars have failed to contribute, I suspect I'm not the only one to have adopted this approach, which manages to be at once actively accommodating and passively condescending.

Man, it's tough tryna do the right thing.

Excuse me?! That is incredibley insulting. You said, "it's tough trying to do the right thing," but maybe you should try it sometime because that post sure as bloody hell wasn't it. We like metal. How dare you make us feel as though we're doing something wrong by posting it. God, I can't believe someone would actually have the balls to make a post like that.

Anyway. getting back to the topic, I don't listen to it often, but I do like old school jazz. Not the Big Band stuff, but stuff like this is rather palatable. 7/10

Here's one of my favorite songs off my favorite album:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYlUe-SDqA0