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metal134

03-23-2011, 10:47 AM

That's all my fault Mark, I misread your post. My sincerest apologies. Something was wrong with me yesterday--my reading comprehension was at an all time low. So, again, sorry 'bout that.

And, I don't have time to properly listen to the above song, so I'll let someone else rate it. I will later when I have more time if it still hasn't been.
Ditto. But to be fair, it seemed pretty sincere.

Getting things back on track:

Sounds a bit too much like the Cars meet the Cure. Still, better than most crap out there. 5/10.

Getting a little bluesy with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0NtFlNPRiE

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-23-2011, 07:17 PM

Always been a KWS fan. 8/10.

I just can't get enough of Holst. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuMu-6Sr_Ro)

Shalot

03-23-2011, 08:57 PM

7/10 - beautiful. Just not in the mood for it right now, so just 7

Everyone will thank me for this next one. This is really good and I recommend that everyone experience this. It will make your life better. You will wish that you could have these next 3 minutes back just so that you can go back and experience it for the first time all over again. The time that went into composing this, and putting it together was well spent and we should be thankful for their efforts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-23-2011, 10:16 PM

:lol: Second posting of that masterpiece. I can't even give it accolades for being so bad it's funny; that only happens on the first listen. .0001/10

I need a palate cleanser. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Hv0tsvpyU)

qimissung

03-23-2011, 11:29 PM

At least they got their name right...0/10

Now for a truly incredible musician:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iQSTCkq3ig

metal134

03-24-2011, 12:51 AM

Pretty impressive, but I felt it kind've meandered a little too much. 7/10

The human Air Raid Siren is as good solo as he is with Maiden:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dal1tzOS_b4

MystyrMystyry

03-24-2011, 09:54 AM

Hair's not long enough, and the sound on the particular clip is too flat (over-compression=bad) 7/10

cop the line-up of talent - count at least one drummer who can also sing clearly (and at the same time), at least one double-necked '70's space-axe, at least one Joe Walsh, at least one extended dual guitar solo at 4.00, at least one song that counts as poetry, and at least one beard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ygI3BZxdCY&feature=related

Veho

03-24-2011, 07:59 PM

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-24-2011, 10:54 PM

Good thing someone else rated "Hotel California," because doing so would've forced me to rant about the horrible music that is produced when a band completely sells out.

As to the above song--save a few, I just can't get into that meandering, seemingly aimless, repetitive sound a lot of rock bands choose to go with. It sort of sounded like a heavier version of many indie bands that flood the music scene these days. 5/10.

Costello is a genius. It sounds like such a cheery tune until one reads the lyrics. (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/wm-A10302B0000063202U/elvis_costello_the_other_side_of_summer_official_m usic_video/) (Oddly, I couldn't find this on YT, so hopefully Metacafe works for you.)

Here're the lyrics, if you're so inclined. (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/e/elvis+costello/the+other+side+of+summer_20047280.html)

Veho

03-24-2011, 11:29 PM

OrphanPip

03-25-2011, 12:20 AM

Inoffensive 5/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OOLxGjb3dY&feature=related

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-25-2011, 12:44 AM

Ummmmmmmm, I'm really not sure what to say. It was like a watered down, kiddie version of Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. 3/10.

One of the 'core' bands I like. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvVJ1lfwQ7w)

OrphanPip

03-25-2011, 01:00 AM

Ummmmmmmm, I'm really not sure what to say. It was like a watered down, kiddie version of Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. 3/10.

I don't really get where you see the similarity, besides the song being an instrumental.

papayahed

03-25-2011, 07:02 AM

I'm torn. I like the song but I've never been a fan of the yelling lyrics as I can't sing along. 7/10

How about a classic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjKFCYzqq-A&feature=related

Scheherazade

03-25-2011, 08:26 AM

Well, that was not a classic I was expecting: 2/10.

A recent radio favorite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYEDA3JcQqw

MarkBastable

03-25-2011, 08:55 AM

See, some might say that that was derivative, formulaic and a pale imitation of the originals it cites. But I think that rock - in the widest sense - music is now a sufficiently mature form that it has developed and established a series of vernaculars within which it's perfectly valid to operate. And that's a pretty good piece of music that absolutely works within and as part of one of those established vernacular forms. 7/10.

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9drameYoMek&feature=related)one of my favourite bands of the nineties - a bunch of kids who had obviously grown up with dads who introduced them to all the right stuff, and who then melded it to make something that manages to sound familiar without ever quite sounding like anyone else.

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-25-2011, 09:36 AM

I don't really get where you see the similarity, besides the song being an instrumental.

It was just the first thought to cross my mind. The synthesizers and stuff just made me think, "If ELP were a bunch of pansies, this is what it would sound like."

Anyways, I didn't really say they did sound like ELP--I said quite the opposite.

MarkBastable

03-25-2011, 10:11 AM

Anyways, I didn't really say they did sound like ELP--I said quite the opposite.

Quite - they don't sound like ELP. They don't sound like Gershwin either. Or Bavarian folk music. Or Three Dog Night. Now I come to think about it, the list of people they don't sound like is pretty damn lengthy.

(People often say to me, when I make this kind of slightly fatuous point, "That's just semantics, Mark." - as if pointing that out were a kind of Big Eagle demolisher of any argument I might be presenting. I usually reply, "Yeah - without semantics, we wouldn't be talking at all. But back to my original fatuity..."

Obviously, MM, I know what you mean. You're saying they sound sufficiently like ELP that it's worth pointing out that they sound nothing like ELP. The premise might be debatable - as Pip has demonstrated - but the priniciple is faultless. Still, I get a lot of innocent pleasure out of deconstructing the use of language in this tiresome way. I'm more to be pitied than censured.)

MystyrMystyry

03-25-2011, 10:20 AM

No offense Mutatis ol' bean, but you seem a little defensive lately like you've been looking for an argument - WHICH IS GREAT! Let's start an argument thread!

Um, this selection - a little old, but not quite old enough - I have to imagine myself in ten years reflecting back 25 years with a nostalgic tear welling in my eye - but competent enough to earn eight black rubber rats

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FIfiCMX9Qg&feature=related

MarkBastable

03-25-2011, 10:22 AM

MystyrMystyry

03-25-2011, 10:35 AM

That's what I rated - okay in Anglais: eight black rubber rats out of a possible ten because it's not quite old enough

MarkBastable

03-25-2011, 10:46 AM

That's what I rated - okay in Anglais: eight black rubber rats out of a possible ten because it's not quite old enough

Jesus, and I think I'm facetious.

Fair enough, sorry, I missed that.

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-25-2011, 05:36 PM

No offense Mutatis ol' bean, but you seem a little defensive lately like you've been looking for an argument - WHICH IS GREAT! Let's start an argument thread!
Hmm. Maybe I have. I'm not sure. If I am being more defensive or confrontational than usual the reason must be on a subconscious level, because I can't think of any particular reason. I must admit I'm usually more defensive when it comes to music--something I do my best to remedy, but I doubt it will ever be remedied completely. But, I'm always up for an argument. What are forums for, after all? :lol:

On a totally unrelated no, Mystyr, I've been meaning to ask this for a while, and this seems as good a place as any. Why no periods? Stylistic choice?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FIfiCMX9Qg&feature=related

Okay, I admit, after a couple minutes I started to sort of skip through that song. It ain't my thing. But, it does a good job of creating a dark and creepy atmosphere (the voices along with the meandering tones struck me as unsettling), which I assume it its goal. So, a 5/10.

Of the dozens and dozens of songs named after a woman, this is one of my favorites. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwbowi-8Yoo)

Armel P

03-25-2011, 07:09 PM

Born of Osiris: 6
Gomez: 6
Adele: 6.7
YMO: 6.5
Architects of Tomorrow: 7
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Gdg9zTwvU

Band: Heldon
Year: 1978
Country: France
My Rating: 9.2

Paulclem

03-25-2011, 07:49 PM

Armel P

03-25-2011, 08:19 PM

Not too keen. 4/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyrFpR59_vQ

What about this one.

I can see why you were not too keen.

Allman: 6.8
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq-S9FzmcyI&feature=related

Artist: Devin Townsend
Year: 2001
Country: Canada
My rating: 9.3

MarkBastable

03-25-2011, 08:29 PM

Artist: Devin Townsend
Year: 2001
Country: Canada
My rating: 9.3

For a minute I thought.....but no. 3/10

My latest favourites (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4gPZPKJc0s&feature=fvsr)...

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-25-2011, 10:47 PM

My latest favourites (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4gPZPKJc0s&feature=fvsr)...
Why? It seemed to me just annoying. 2/10 I'm also surprised to find them on the Roadrunner label, which is (or I guess was, since I've seen this) a heavy-metal label.

And, did anyone rate my earlier post of "Melissa" by The Alman Brothers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwbowi-8Yoo)? It doesn't look like it.....

P.S. Devin Townsend is awesome--submitted a song of his myself not too long ago.

OrphanPip

03-26-2011, 01:00 AM

I actually love the Dresden Dolls, there's a certain pop-punk sensibility to their music that just falls short of being mainstream, largely because of that theatrical (Brechtian) dark playfulness that permeates a lot of their songs. Also, Amanda Palmer is bonkers.

Amanda Palmer actually got dropped by Roadrunner for fighting them because they wanted her to become more accessible (particularly she fought them over them wanting to edit one of her music videos to make her look skinnier).

6/10 for Allman Brothers. My mother has poisoned me against them.

So, here's the classic Bertold Brecht song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QXJ3OXWaOY

(I had a link of Lotte Lenya singing it, just because she's a more talented singer, but decided to post a recording of Brecht singing it)

MarkBastable

03-26-2011, 03:42 AM

Why? It seemed to me just annoying.

Dresden Dolls? Well, I like their tunes, and I like their image, and I like their attitude, musically and attitudinally. But what really endears them to me is their wit. I don't mean just humour, although they have plenty of that, but the inventive application of their intelligence. Also I'd do Amanda Palmer like a shot. And then again, a bit later, less like a shot.

As to Melissa - I've never really connected with that Southern thing of which the Allmans are probably the best known example. The chord sequences and tunes always seem mundane to me, and the whole sound smacks of a place and a life that has nothing I can share. Talking about Eat a Peach, Greil Marcus is quoted on Wikipedia as saying that it's front-porch music stolen from the utopia of shared southern memory, which he intends as a compliment, but it's pretty much what I think too - and I don't feel invited up on to the stoop. Out of sheer respect for their rep and influence, I'll give it 4/10.

(See, you once complained that people rated songs low without any reason given. That'll teach ya...)

Can't see the Brecht here in the UK. Someone else take it.

OrphanPip

03-26-2011, 04:01 AM

It's Macky Messer/Mack the Knife from Brecht's 3-Penny Opera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpMh5auMaVQ

Maybe the Lotte Lenya link will work for you.

MarkBastable

03-26-2011, 04:15 AM

metal134

03-26-2011, 05:04 AM

Mack the Knife has been irreparably ruined for me by a thousand Vegas rib-room versions ("....yeah, old Mackie, he's just, he's just bloooooown into towwwwwwn..."). Have I ever mentioned how much I despise Frank Sinatra? For Kurt and Bertold's sake, 6/10.

However, this does give me a chance to post more Dolls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N0sBo1cfNU).
Oh man, now I'm having nightmarish Morrissey flashbacks. 4/10

Speaking of nightmarish:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAnayUpbJYs

Fun fact: did you know that there was an episode of the Muppets in which Alice Copper tried to get them to sell their souls to the devil? That is so freaking awesome.

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-26-2011, 05:13 AM

Amanda Palmer actually got dropped by Roadrunner for fighting them because they wanted her to become more accessible (particularly she fought them over them wanting to edit one of her music videos to make her look skinnier).
Yeah, I did some reading up on them on Wikipedia and read that. What a bunch of crap. Even when they were more of a metal/punk rock label, they usually only took on bands that they thought would be commercially viable and always got flack for that. Looks like it's only gotten worse.

Dresden Dolls? Well, I like their tunes, and I like their image, and I like their attitude, musically and attitudinally. But what really endears them to me is their wit. I don't mean just humour, although they have plenty of that, but the inventive application of their intelligence. Also I'd do Amanda Palmer like a shot. And then again, a bit later, less like a shot.
Makes sense.

As to Melissa - I've never really connected with that Southern thing of which the Allmans are probably the best known example. The chord sequences and tunes always seem mundane to me, and the whole sound smacks of a place and a life that has nothing I can share. Talking about Eat a Peach, Greil Marcus is quoted on Wikipedia as saying that it's front-porch music stolen from the utopia of shared southern memory, which he intends as a compliment, but it's pretty much what I think too - and I don't feel invited up on to the stoop. Out of sheer respect for their rep and influence, I'll give it 4/10.

(See, you once complained that people rated songs low without any reason given. That'll teach ya...)
That also makes complete sense. Alman brothers is one of those bands that usually make me want to say to someone, "How could you not like them?" That's a great answer.

However, this does give me a chance to post more Dolls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N0sBo1cfNU).
Well, I did like this song more than the previous, but their sound is just not for me. It just seems a bit too empty. Piano and drums just aren't enough to give their songs the punch they seem to want them to have. And I'm just not hearing inventive application of intelligence. The lyrics are better-than-average, but nothing that special as far as I can tell. The music in terms of composition seems a bit formulaic. Still, they strike me as artists doing what they want to do, and if I compare it to most of the popular crap out there today, I'll give this song a 6/10.

Metal134's song: It was posted as I wrote this. Of course I'm going to give Cooper a high rating. 9/10.

Since Roadrunner has been discussed, I'll post a song from one of my favorite metal CDs. It's from compilation CD put out by Roadrunner called Roadrunner United, where songs were made by various different metal artists on their label. The following song is still one of my all-time. favorite heavy metal songs. The drums are awesome. It always gets me revved up

The vocalist is also just amazing. Awesome screams and an amazing singing voice. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr2Ucum7uoI)

MarkBastable

03-26-2011, 06:00 AM

Oh man, now I'm having nightmarish Morrissey flashbacks. 4/10

Morrissey flashbacks? I can think of nothing less like Morrissey's tuneless, self-regarding, adolescent, half-arsed burblings than the structured and considered compositions of the Dresden Dolls. The Smiths always sounded to me like a great band with an exceptional guitarist in search of a terrific singer but in the meantime they've got the drummer's tuneless cousin in on vocals, just for the rehearsals.

I used to have a copy of Welcome to My Nightmare signed by Alice, which was irritating because I thought it was the first bad album he'd made. It was the beginning of his transition from a rock singer to an entertainer and the dead giveaway - apart from the fact that he'd screwed and dumped the fabulous band with whom he'd become successful - was the cover of the first 'solo' album.

Compare this, the band's debut on Warner:

http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq193/markbastable/litd.jpg

to this, the first Ezrin-ships-in-session-musicians album:

http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq193/markbastable/wtmn.jpg

You can practically hear the slot machines beeping and the links sizzling on the complimentary buffet counter, can't you?

MystyrMystyry

03-26-2011, 09:18 AM

that was as perfect an example of Death Metal as we've had, though it really could've benefited from a better video for a more live feel (I don't mean as a part of my current obsession - I just mean a video would take it up to a 10)

On a slightly lighter musical note but with more punch to the lyrics Britain's (far better answer to) Bob Dylan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k899gOpzWRw

papayahed

03-26-2011, 11:17 AM

I would give it a 7 but since it's 10 minutes long I'm giving it a 4/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVfe6rdHRKI

MarkBastable

03-26-2011, 12:36 PM

I would give it a 7 but since it's 10 minutes long I'm giving it a 4/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVfe6rdHRKI

I would give it an 8 but as it's about the number 3 I'll give it a 9/10.

If all you've got to do today.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK8btpWltTk)

MystyrMystyry

03-26-2011, 01:10 PM

10-4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWO_AIh8drk

metal134

03-26-2011, 03:38 PM

Morrissey flashbacks? I can think of nothing less like Morrissey's tuneless, self-regarding, adolescent, half-arsed burblings than the structured and considered compositions of the Dresden Dolls. The Smiths always sounded to me like a great band with an exceptional guitarist in search of a terrific singer but in the meantime they've got the drummer's tuneless cousin in on vocals, just for the rehearsals.

I dunno, they just gave off a Smiths vibe to me.

MarkBastable

03-26-2011, 03:40 PM

I dunno, they just gave off a Smiths vibe to me.

Well, somewhere in there, you do know, because the vibe you get isn't arbitrary. It's analysable. Though it's perfectly valid to say you can't be bothered to figure out what the connection is.

Not that I suggest for instant you have any reason to figure it out for me. But, if I were you, I'd be unable to sleep until I'd figured it out for myself.

Gilliatt Gurgle

03-26-2011, 04:26 PM

10-4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWO_AIh8drk

9/10 - For taking me back to the CB Radios days. I used to curse those big rigs as the blew past me in my '66 VW beetle nearly sending me into the grass shoulder.

I would give it a 7 but since it's 10 minutes long I'm giving it a 4/10.

From a blind mellon to a Blind Lemon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXyKXJI2-OM&feature=related

Gg

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-26-2011, 06:17 PM

For the history, an 8/10.

that was as perfect an example of Death Metal as we've had, though it really could've benefited from a better video for a more live feel (I don't mean as a part of my current obsession - I just mean a video would take it up to a 10)

Actually, the previous song I posted was a poor example of death metal. It would better be described as a good example of thrash and metalcore. :nod:

This is a better example of death metal, from the same compilation CD. :cornut: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT5Ktwccnt8)

MystyrMystyry

03-26-2011, 06:51 PM

Ah I'm not up with the nomenclature!

9/10 for being almost as good as these guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTsFnDQLnk4

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-26-2011, 07:16 PM

I liked it a lot. Very melodic, but the obligitory breakdown seemed a bit forced. 7.5/10.

What I love about Opeth is their ability to compose beautiful mellow and acoustic pieces. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8S55bLP-pE)

Paulclem

03-26-2011, 07:27 PM

MystyrMystyry

03-26-2011, 09:46 PM

Not too bad at all Paul, and for all Pauls here's a Peter before he grew tired and rich and turned up on Donahue as a completely different person pretending to be the actual with some nonsense about drinking and injecting all his money away and now living on the street

The real Peter called in saying who's this imposter and a confrontation between the two Peters was scheduled for later that month - I wonder if I can find it - anyway this is a great solo by a great drummer named Peter in a band back when they were the greatest thing since sliced milk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcLFXLW0wRg

metal134

03-26-2011, 10:47 PM

Though I feel KISS are total corporate whores, especially Gene Simmons, I do still love a good KISS song. 8/10

I love these guys, but this video is incredibley Spianl Tap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di9IpG4rMEg&feature=fvst

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-27-2011, 12:02 AM

LOL. Yeah, that video is pretty funny. I love videos like that. I assumed it was black metal at first, just because that's where you usually see such cheese. I've never been a fan of the slow paced doom metal, though. 5/10.

Better production value, but another horribly cheesy video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9cqKafnUrk) (Though, I think Dimmu does it in a bit of a tongue-and-cheek manner. At least, that's what I hope.)

metal134

03-27-2011, 12:21 AM

Well, somewhere in there, you do know, because the vibe you get isn't arbitrary. It's analysable. Though it's perfectly valid to say you can't be bothered to figure out what the connection is.

Not that I suggest for instant you have any reason to figure it out for me. But, if I were you, I'd be unable to sleep until I'd figured it out for myself.
Well, seeing as how I'm not a descontructivist, "they sound like the bloody Smiths" is good enough for me. No more simple or complicated than that, no sleep lost for me.

Not a big fan of those Norwegian guys. But I gotta give it points for some brutal riffs. 5/10

I don't care what anyone says, Tim Owens has some friggin pipes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyC8Ws_mrsg

MystyrMystyry

03-27-2011, 01:07 AM

That's the stuff! 8/10

For my next trick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wChk5nY3Kzg&p=80199003D19A3929

Gilliatt Gurgle

03-27-2011, 09:08 AM

I struggled to find an actual song or at least an attempt to sing.
Instead we hear the sappy, plaintive dialogue of a childhood outcast cursed with Rick Springfield features and his lifelong desire to fly over a canned symphonic score.
I doubt that he’ll even make past ground school with her.

2/10 – The “2” is for the blonde and the suffering she must endure.

Here’s an example exemplifying the successful blend of dialogue, music and singing.
Note the sensuality, aggression and passion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4qBYJ00230&feature=related

.

papayahed

03-27-2011, 11:07 AM

MystyrMystyry

03-27-2011, 01:44 PM

5/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Zko2EaaP4&feature=fvsr

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-27-2011, 04:04 PM

I found the singing a bit annoying, and just not my kind of music. 4/10.

A story to go with my next song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTgKRCXybSM):

A couple years ago, I took an Oral Interpretation of Literature class (it was required). For those who don't know, this is a class where you learn to read literature in a theatrical manner, yet it's still not a full-blown performance. I found it somewhat stupid.

Anyways, the professor for this class was a very Christian woman, and she had no qualms about telling everyone so. To go along with this, she also explained how much she hated cursing and what-not (why she was teaching a college literature-heavy course in the first place and not Sunday school, I don't know). So, as the semester went on, I saw the most blatant examples of brown-nosery I'd ever seen. At one point we had a good one third of the class reading verses out of The Bible, or some other religious text. It was annoying, and by the end of the semester, I had had enough, because I am not Christian, or religious at all, for that matter.

The last reading we were to do was a choice of anything, and I chose the lyrics to this song along with another song by Tool. After hearing some more religious blathering, I got up to read my piece. I explained how it was about the singer's (Maynard James Keenan) mother, who after being paralyzed from a barin aneurysm, still chose to be a devout Catholic. Here are the lyrics:

You're such an inspiration
For the ways that I will
Never, ever choose to be
Oh so many ways for me to show you
How your savior has abandoned you

F*** your God, your Lord, your Christ
He did this, took all you had and
Left you this way, still you pray, never stray, never
Taste of the fruit, never thought to question "Why?"

It's not like you killed someone
It's not like you drove a hateful spear into his side
Praise the one who left you broken down and paralyzed

He did it all for you...
He did it all for you...

Oh so many ways for me to show you
How your dogma has abandoned you

Pray to your Christ, to your God
Never taste of the fruit, never stray, never break, never
Choke on a lie even though he's the one who
Did this to you, you never thought to question "Why?"

It's not like you killed someone
It's not like you drove a spiteful spear into his side
Talk to Jesus Christ as if he knows the reasons why

He did it all for you...
He did it all for you...

When I read the line, in quite an angry manner, no less, "F*** your God, your lord, your Christ," a small, audible gasp of horror could be heard from the teacher. Only one other time in the semester did she audibly respond to such vulgarity (when someone decided to read a piece with the c-word in it), but her response to "F*** your God" was louder. It was a very proud moment for me, I must admit.

MystyrMystyry

03-27-2011, 07:50 PM

I remember the day I bought that album - and that song, well, it's already a classic, isn't it

9.5 (it's not Tool, it's too short)

This is just because:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKj4upY1VYI

papayahed

03-27-2011, 08:12 PM

Nice flashback 8.5/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXZ3yUZTlrA

Gilliatt Gurgle

03-27-2011, 08:51 PM

...Here’s an example exemplifying the successful blend of dialogue, music and singing.
Note the sensuality, aggression and passion...

Pretty Good. 8/10

My second favorite Doors tune:
.....

Oops, my bad. The Doors song was my initial choice, but I meant to swap it with this example of "sensuality, agression and passion":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXuTD4vSF9E

Get a load of the monologue starting about 6:20 !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXZ3yUZTlrA

Never was a Beastie Boys fan or much of anything after about 1980.
Since I am eating a New York strip steak and they are from New York, I'll give it 4/10.

Next: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXuTD4vSF9E

Gg

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-27-2011, 10:51 PM

Never did like Meatloaf. He has the theatricality, but just not enough artistic merit to go with it. 3.5/10.

Once again, I venture into the court of the Crimson King. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGQHL0t_uyU)

qimissung

03-27-2011, 11:43 PM

It was hummable. 3/10

Back to work tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_bvT-DGcWw

metal134

03-28-2011, 12:25 AM

Love, love, LOVE King Crimson. Pink Floyd as well. I also love how many people miss the irony present in this song: 10/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yx7BeIMLYE

OrphanPip

03-28-2011, 03:02 AM

Well I've heard worst things 4/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-leG_BTB01o

metal134

03-28-2011, 03:24 AM

Wow. I think I just puked in my mouth. 1/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoDbAd4fYBA

papayahed

03-28-2011, 07:36 AM

I do like Priest. 8.75/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jeeY80n99Q&feature=related

MarkBastable

03-28-2011, 07:57 AM

Never heard of her, but it's a great song and a cool arrangement. Very pleasant - which sounds like damning with faint praise, but is intended more to be praising with faint damn. 7/10

Some pure pop for now people (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5BaurXMmMU&feature=related). Or then people.

OrphanPip

03-28-2011, 09:01 AM

Good for what it is, 7/10

Here's something kitschy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cAqwco49m4

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-28-2011, 09:22 AM

After looking up the word "kitschy," I agree. The song is definitely that. 1/10.

Just heard this on my Pandora symphonic station and loved it. Viva Vivaldi, indeed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_j426zXI0Q)

The Comedian

03-28-2011, 01:56 PM

like it 7/10

WARNING: I'm feelin' a little twangy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcyN2mvs6pc

Armel P

03-28-2011, 02:38 PM

Once again, I venture into the court of the Crimson King. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGQHL0t_uyU)

10

Good work, sir.

Armel P

03-28-2011, 02:48 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIqRsl8Vm-Q

Ayreon

Armel P

03-28-2011, 02:50 PM

like it 7/10

WARNING: I'm feelin' a little twangy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcyN2mvs6pc

5.

It's near the upper end of twangy music.

MystyrMystyry

03-28-2011, 08:18 PM

6 rodents

Classic Televised Rock!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXCRCL0EMV8

qimissung

03-28-2011, 11:40 PM

I came. I listened. I danced. 5/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hha_H87mJ4

manolia

03-29-2011, 04:16 AM

I like Cash so 8/10

Canadians Skinny Puppy co-founders of industrial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu9htBbxA_Q&feature=related

papayahed

03-29-2011, 01:31 PM

I dig it 8.75/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujTTjt5VkZM

MystyrMystyry

03-29-2011, 02:09 PM

Pretty good - 7/10 goldenstars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIbcqgXh5-4&feature=related

MarkBastable

03-29-2011, 02:21 PM

Wonderful. 9/10

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W35wtfcByIY&feature=related)takes me back. Ah - cheesecloth shirts and stack heels.

MystyrMystyry

03-29-2011, 02:35 PM

Now you're talkin'! 9.5/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dClBULBjsx0

manolia

03-29-2011, 02:59 PM

Pleasant 6/10

Love the band, their name, his voice and their clips..this one is a great clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3i1E9N8zww

hillwalker

03-29-2011, 02:59 PM

ex-Heads - good stuff 7.5/10

and now for something completely different.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu5AeAlQSaM

H

Veho

03-29-2011, 03:08 PM

If I'm honest, I really didn't enjoy it. I think it must be trying to be profound but as a song it wasn't to my taste. 3/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AedHv7geXcU

MarkBastable

03-29-2011, 03:23 PM

Somewhat anaemic. 4/10

Possibly the only pop song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dHY0S9AVvg&feature=related)ever to mention an IUD.

Veho

03-29-2011, 03:36 PM

Wasn't half bad, I wouldn't put it on my iPod but it made for decent listening. I'm sure pop songs now have worse things mentioned than IUD. 7/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR05wlZ3vcQ

MarkBastable

03-29-2011, 03:53 PM

Rather charming. 7/10

Some kids from my son's school, with their single (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh_-IoHD6oM).

qimissung

03-29-2011, 06:16 PM

Pretty good for the new kids on the block. 8/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrCk5ZWt3a8&feature=fvst

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-29-2011, 11:03 PM

Awesome, song, but the original can't be beat. 7/10.

How can we sleep at night
Knowing that we're hidden by our lack of emotion?
Just stoic disposition, what robotic guise. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns4EA4OJt18)

P.S. Kudos to Mystyr for the Crash Test Dummies and Mark for the Genesis.

metal134

03-30-2011, 01:04 AM

Agreed on the Genesis. Early Genesis is remarkeable.

Awaken the Dream - Not bad. Didn't blow me away, but it didn't suck. 6/10

This song is responsible for the paradigm shift in birthdays and how they will be viewed in the coming century:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVLzZLn817Y

MystyrMystyry

03-30-2011, 07:15 AM

No thanks 1/10 for trying a new tack, but aimless

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60JCsWlRtF0

MarkBastable

03-30-2011, 07:47 AM

I've wondered from time to time what it is about INXS that leaves me cold. I think it's that their stuff seems so inexcusably insubstantial. It's a tapestry of cliches, all skilfully stitched together but without any real content. Their music has hidden shallows. 3/10

For no other reason than the connection between the titles, here's Declan and the boys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bG3vp2-oik).

MystyrMystyry

03-30-2011, 08:43 AM

INXS???

Oh I see what's happened - I was going through things from my sister's record collection, and ah, yeah I agree - but how did you manage a whole '3'?

Anyway - Glorious mono aside Elvis still has his attractions, um, briliance shines through like the sun on an overcast yuotebu day - 8.5/10

This is what I'd meant to submit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH1Rs6LSvBs&feature=fvwrel

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-30-2011, 09:01 AM

Sorry, MM, really didn't like that one. At all. 2/10 (an extra point because the singer was hot)

Did I already post this song? I don't care, I can't get enough of it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMrYSTzqFI8)

metal134

03-30-2011, 02:21 PM

No thanks 1/10 for trying a new tack, but aimless

You do get that it was a joke song, right?

MystyrMystyry

03-30-2011, 05:00 PM

What th' what th' what th'!!!

Look at it again - Wendy's a 10/10 alone in anyone's lingo

Listen to the song - she's not singing 'I love you, Baby' - and she's not asking for your love - she's demanding it! Demanding it because she knows she deserves it!

The arrangement's a classic, the underlying metaphor in the second verse is-

I digress

The next got a 1/10 for the joke - I'd like to hear others opinions but at the same time I wouldn't want them wasting bandwidth on it

Mutatis' gets a 7 due to a certain nostalgic air it stirs in me though I can't quite place it

This next is - at least amongst particular circles - an unrivaled megastar of early nineties techno-ness (it meant disparate things to many different experimenters back then)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Ta0Nu-i-Q&feature=related

metal134

03-31-2011, 12:50 AM

The next got a 1/10 for the joke - I'd like to hear others opinions but at the same time I wouldn't want them wasting bandwidth on it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Ta0Nu-i-Q&feature=related
I get the rating, it's just that your analysis seemed to be taking it seriously

MystyrMystyry

03-31-2011, 09:55 AM

Not seriously - just not the funniest joke - jokes in music have been around since music has - jokes within forms of music are everywhere - jazz jokes, blues jokes, rock jokes, even folk jokes

None particularly funny - why are you worrying about it?

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-31-2011, 04:06 PM

Hmmmm. Techno. Never been a fan. I did like some of the videos The Crystal Method put out on MTV when I was a youngin'; they were fun to watch and the music was fun to listen to, but only for about 3 minutes or so. But 10? I guess it's good for what it is, though, so 4/10.

Speaking of musical jokes, this guy was one of, if not the first musical jokesters. At 0:38 he throws in a quite startling not that would definitely make one jump if they weren't ready for it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqXtKCdqRNA).

MarkBastable

03-31-2011, 07:06 PM

Oh, Haydn, you incorrigible scamp. Pull the screens round and call the nurse - I appear to have split my sides.

5/10

Binary solo.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGoi1MSGu64&feature=related)

JuniperWoolf

03-31-2011, 08:50 PM

Haha, they're great. Cool intro in this version. 9/10.

In keeping with the theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR5negCF024).

OrphanPip

03-31-2011, 08:59 PM

Haha, they're great. Cool intro in this version. 9/10.

In keeping with the theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR5negCF024).

10/10 'cause I would have Bruce McCulloch's babies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr3E94fVifk&feature=related

Mutatis-Mutandis

03-31-2011, 10:21 PM

I've never understood the appeal of Kids in the Hall. They always struck me as trying way too hard to be the next Monty Python, and failing horribly. 1/10.

I'm feeling angry for no particular reason. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfVXLDGWPwc)

One of the comments was perfect when applied to DEP: "It's the complete opposite of easy listening. You cannot be a lazy listener; it demands that you turn on your brain and leave it on for the whole experience. Absolute genius music."

MarkBastable

04-01-2011, 02:43 AM

Me too, now. 2/10

Bowie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrfc8c6VkTA)at the epic height of his irresistible camp affectation.

MystyrMystyry

04-01-2011, 08:01 PM

(I read the lyrics, I watched the album cover, I saw the comments and now I'm as confussed as ever - a very quiet whispery 7.5 because I might be wrong)

These Jokers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=may4eoxbZmM

The Comedian

04-01-2011, 10:36 PM

. . .double post

The Comedian

04-01-2011, 10:37 PM

I've always thought that Pink Floyd is sort of like acne: it's an ugly phase we all have to deal with. . . that at the time seems so important, but upon reflection is pretty insignificant.

2/10

Poor Boy Blues - Chet Atkins and Mark Knopfler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3V_Mo_jQ1g

billl

04-02-2011, 03:05 AM

Poor Boy Blues - Chet Atkins and Mark Knopfler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3V_Mo_jQ1g

I had trouble (about 80% of the time, anyhow) telling which guitar was Chet, and which one was Knopfler 'stealing from Chet', and the whole thing about the skinny guy and the woman making eyes at each other only served to remind me that I wasn't supposed to be paying attention to the music--but for what?

8/10

Here's one that is certainly categorizable as "music for women to shop for jeans by", but I can't seem to find a maximum number of times that I want to listen to it in a row:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlcfiDi5XnA

JuniperWoolf

04-02-2011, 04:32 AM

First of all...

I'm feeling angry for no particular reason. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfVXLDGWPwc)

Bjgevada! (that's the closest letter representation to the noise I made when I clicked on this link) You've got to warn people when you do that man, I almost fell out of my computer chair.

Here's one that is certainly categorizable as "music for women to shop for jeans by", but I can't seem to find a maximum number of times that I want to listen to it in a row

It reminded me on Ana, but I didn't like it as much. 6/10

This isn't my usual style of music, but I like it and I thought that The Comedian could use someone else posting country songs. This one is from my area, I live in the Yellowhead region. It's about the wolf relocation from a couple of years ago but from the wolves' point of view which is kinda neat.

http://www.jukeboxalive.com/audio_play_offsite.php?mid=1982783&skin=328974&popup=on

MarkBastable

04-02-2011, 05:42 AM

I'm afraid that I slid off my chair and under the desk, giggling. It's impossible to satirise stuff like that - you can't fake such firm-jawed sincerity. 1/10

I've always had a soft spot for these two (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQxRy30qs0g&feature=related)that I find quite difficult to justify...

JuniperWoolf

04-02-2011, 05:57 AM

I'm afraid that I slid off my chair and under the desk, giggling. It's impossible to satirise stuff like that - you can't fake such firm-jawed sincerity. 1/10

D'aww, you didn't think my country song was cute?

I've always had a soft spot for these two (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQxRy30qs0g&feature=related)that I find quite difficult to justify...

I've shamefully always liked this song. 8/10

A shout-out to the litnet metal heads (turn down your speakers, it's a bit jarring):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpZ60Gc7dw8

MystyrMystyry

04-02-2011, 06:46 AM

Is that what you bopped to at the discotheque?

Sent chills up and down my woggly spine

Keeping with the seventies era theme, these were irresistably weird:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE32tcojArI

Gilliatt Gurgle

04-02-2011, 10:05 AM

Now that's more like it! - 10/10
We've heard the Captain so how about the Commander
Cody that is and his Lost Planet Airmen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szk1nDoGxk4&feature=related

.

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-02-2011, 07:44 PM

First of all...

Bjgevada! (that's the closest letter representation to the noise I made when I clicked on this link) You've got to warn people when you do that man, I almost fell out of my computer chair.
Awwwww, but that's a part of the fun! :)

JuniperWoolf

04-02-2011, 11:05 PM

Now that's more like it! - 10/10
We've heard the Captain so how about the Commander
Cody that is and his Lost Planet Airmen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szk1nDoGxk4&feature=related

.

He reminded me of that guy with a nail in his head on Happy Gilmore. Aaaand that's all that I really liked about that. 3/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwF5i8hwGt4

qimissung

04-02-2011, 11:40 PM

Such tender lyrics. Sigh. 9/10

Now for another love song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hoqhvlx0mcI

metal134

04-03-2011, 06:39 PM

Not my thing at all. 1/10

This video is heavy metal classis in every possible sense of the word:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYFjGOCaiQk&playnext=1&list=PL02C934204B798739

MarkBastable

04-03-2011, 07:33 PM

Tiresome. 1/10

Incomprehensible proverbs. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juAmEb_r1NA&feature=related)

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-03-2011, 10:08 PM

Incomprehensible, indeed. 1/10.

This song describes so many, many people. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg1k_G6fRpQ)

metal134

04-03-2011, 10:43 PM

Never seen the video for that one. The video was awful, but the song is a classic. 8/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eviEpg7GYEE

The Comedian

04-04-2011, 08:36 PM

I always take a few rotten tomatoes for this but. . .Pink Floyd -- not that thrilling for me, honestly.: 3/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smplqf0FYCk

metal134

04-05-2011, 12:51 AM

Horrible butchering of a comedy clasicc. Yakety Sax is NOT funny unless played by horns and accompanied by a sped up video. 2/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX6jirCykI0

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-05-2011, 09:25 AM

It's Dream Theater, so 8/10. I didn't even know they put out a CD in 2009. Definitely going to have to pick it up. Looks like Portnoy's sported a much smaller kit for that album. It will be interesting to see who DT replaces him with, too.

Still very progressive, but a tad more brutal. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9gQJUAuZ8I) (If you don't end up rating this one, metal143, I'd still like to hear your thoughts.)

MarkBastable

04-05-2011, 09:39 AM

I don't know what it's progressing towards, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to arrive there. 1/10

The Last Shadow Puppets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtAfZcax7uU&feature=related), not progressing - in fact, sort of regressing. But I like where they're on their way back to.

metal134

04-05-2011, 02:58 PM

Not too shabby. 7/10

As far as Vortux Obnivium, pretty good. Not a big fan of that vocal style, but the music's good enough that I can live with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL1RguQL4jQ

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-06-2011, 12:15 AM

I've recently formed a soft spot for the shrimpy fellow. 7/10.

Ever since seeing the (disappointing) Black Swan, this has been stuck in my head. It can stay there for as long as it wants. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ea90L91eZk)

MarkBastable

04-06-2011, 03:12 AM

For me, the nostalgic associations of Swan Lake are such that I can't award less than 10, although that does give the impression that I know enough about classical music for my opinion to be taken seriously, which I obviously don't. 10/10

At what you might call the other end of the universe, here's the best r'n'b band the UK ever produced (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jmIYyskDM8). (And I'm using r'n'b in the twelve-bar sense, rather than the gold front tooth sense.)

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-06-2011, 09:12 AM

Not my kind of song. Too repetitive. Not horrible, though. 5/10. I did like one of the top rated comments, though: "ten thousand ****ty indie rock bands wish they were this cool"

That song "Friday" isn't too horrible after all. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi00ykRg_5c)

The Comedian

04-06-2011, 01:43 PM

"Friday" was made to parody. 8/10

Here's one that I'm fairly certain ya'll will hate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKleTa94dC8&feature=related

MarkBastable

04-06-2011, 06:12 PM

I don't like much country, and this didn't make it into the pretty small selection that doesn't reduce me to tears of patronising mirth. 1/10

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8CXKGGhLLk), on the other hand, I do like. My band used to do it as a slow blues, and it worked surprisingly well.

MystyrMystyry

04-06-2011, 06:40 PM

Okayish - don't really get a rush of superfluity - more a comfortable old coat 6/10 silverfish defying the mothballs

This one is notable because the guitarist has ants in his pants or worms or something - but at least he gives you something to look at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE&feature=related

MarkBastable

04-06-2011, 06:47 PM

Coincidentally, my band do that one too. Townsend may have written only a handful of really good songs, but those few are just wonderful. 9/10

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Etf_TH5Kk)another one we do...

OrphanPip

04-06-2011, 07:31 PM

The Last Shadow Puppets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtAfZcax7uU&feature=related), not progressing - in fact, sort of regressing. But I like where they're on their way back to.

The Last Shadow Puppets mildly annoys me because Alex Turner is essentially making music pretty much identical to what he does with Arctic Monkeys. But, I like the Arctic Monkeys so it's not like I can hate it... very troubling.

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Etf_TH5Kk)another one we do...

Love, 9/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsVWl28LttI&feature=related

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-06-2011, 10:32 PM

The Last Shadow Puppets mildly annoys me because Alex Turner is essentially making music pretty much identical to what he does with Arctic Monkeys. But, I like the Arctic Monkeys so it's not like I can hate it... very troubling.
Sure you can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsVWl28LttI&feature=related

Relaxing. 5.5/10.

Inventive. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfOddwK7x3E)

OrphanPip

04-06-2011, 11:22 PM

There are parts of that that seem to actually work, but I think it's a bit of an awkward mash up most of the time, 3/10.

If there happens to be an apocalypse, it wouldn't be so bad if the world afterward was like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1NrQYXjLU

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-07-2011, 12:41 AM

I seem to be falling into a pattern with your songs, Pip. None seem to be horrible, but they usually aren't my cup o' tea, either. Still, for its era, it is one of the better songs. 6/10.

One of my current favorite instrumental bands. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmfzWpp0hMc&feature=player_embedded#at=13)

metal134

04-07-2011, 01:54 AM

Pretty kickass. 8/10

Since you went insturmental, you forced me to bust this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMfcBwjszzQ&feature=related

MarkBastable

04-07-2011, 02:03 AM

......<fill in predictable dismissive comment here>...... 1/10

The Last Shadow Puppets mildly annoys me because Alex Turner is essentially making music pretty much identical to what he does with Arctic Monkeys.

I think it's the other way round. The Puppets were his Barry/Bacharach aside to the Monkeys, but more and more the latter have come to sound like the former. But, either way, I like what Alex does.

On the subject of Billy Idol, it's always slightly astonishing to Brits that North Americans seem to take him seriously. We considered him the raspberry-scented My Little Pony of punk.

Chicago (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-E5JkP-Q7U).

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-07-2011, 09:32 AM

Since you went insturmental, you forced me to bust this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMfcBwjszzQ&feature=related
Not bad at all. Nice groove.

On the subject of Billy Idol, it's always slightly astonishing to Brits that North Americans seem to take him seriously. We considered him the raspberry-scented My Little Pony of punk.
I don't even consider him punk (didn't even know he was supposed to be punk). I just assumed he was one of the better artists among the multitude of **** the 80s produced.

Chicago (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-E5JkP-Q7U).
Robert Fripp is undoubtedly one of the most innovative, creative, progressive artists to ever walk the Earth. I love King Crimson. That being said, I did not dig that very much at all. 4/10.

Next Song:

The ending always gives me chills. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tGA6bpscj8)

MystyrMystyry

04-08-2011, 05:22 AM

That was so good in so many ways that I didn't even notice it was in mono

!0/!0 big ones

(Think I might colourise and try to stereophy it!)

One of the rare few country songs I can stand - I chose this version only because the official (better sounding) video has MTV emblazoned all over it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLU8C9WeIH8

MarkBastable

04-08-2011, 06:25 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLU8C9WeIH8

I find it very hard to take that seriously. But, in my defence, so does Keith. 5/10

Utterly fluffy and insubstantial pop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iiryJwvDtc&feature=related), much loved by a six-year-old of my acquaintance.

MystyrMystyry

04-08-2011, 06:53 AM

That sounds like one of those songs you hear on the morning radio whilst pouring milk on your cornflakes and getting ready for school - am I right? am I right?

That's a six for the Basil Brush memories - still running in repeat in some places

Actually, that band reminds me of another responsible for this song used in the opening scene of The Man From Hong Kong in a spectacular hang-gliding sequence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mSZRCWWZEs

Gilliatt Gurgle

04-08-2011, 07:38 AM

.
Mystery, you're flirting dangerously close to disco.
We've already bid farewell to that sister 2/10 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz3gpKCjRTM

.

MarkBastable

04-08-2011, 07:56 AM

Not in the first rank of Who songs, I'd say. 5/10

This is another one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atxUuldUcfI)that features high on the list of my daughter's favourites, though while Pilot was harmless fun, this song is a bleeding infected carbuncle on the perineum of popular music, and its place in my daughters' affections can be blamed on their mother, who's the right age to have had this poisonous confection permeate her skin like nuclear fallout.

MystyrMystyry

04-08-2011, 09:04 AM

poo (bubblegum metal, ya know)

1/10 flushes

I'm fairly certain this is from earlier than '78, but I can't be goggled to find out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR_oBTUZYJg&feature=related

MarkBastable

04-08-2011, 01:59 PM

Usually the one-hit wonders of one's childhood turn out three decades later to be rather better than you remember. This is not true, for me, of The Motors. 4/10

If you're going to be, say, 53 at the end of this year, there would have been a moment in your adolescence, probably between the time you discovered girls and the first time you actually got laid (so about twelve years), when this record (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GSFJXSbE90&feature=related) was just about the most sensuous and mind-bogglingly sexy thing you'd ever heard.

I'm awake but this is not my home.
For the first time, I'm not alone.

(Incidentally, that's a horrible pic of Kiki Dee on the record sleeve. She looks more like herself in this version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hal465rjRYc), even though the arrangement is dire. I'd have died for her, frankly. Still might. I mean - look at this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLQRW7J_D0U&feature=related). I was fifteen for God's sake. I didn't stand a chance.)

metal134

04-08-2011, 03:13 PM

Trite and tiresome. 2/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-o_i4RfIxA&feature=related

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-08-2011, 06:28 PM

Um, YES! Symphony X is freaking awesome, even with the occasionally annoying singer. Nice pick. 9/10

I'll tear your mind out! I'll burn your soul! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vgQalXaIxs)

Gilliatt Gurgle

04-08-2011, 07:24 PM

I liked it! 8/10

Here's something that plays of the burning soul concept:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8

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metal134

04-08-2011, 08:44 PM

That video was evil and satanic. Just how I like it! :) 8/10

Now for some evil one-up-manship:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kGPhpvqtOc

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-08-2011, 11:01 PM

Always loved that song. Probably because I LOVE screaming. A true pioneer of the art. Plus, gotta love the sufficiently ****ed up performance. 9/10.

Continuing with the Satanic theme. . . . .

The music kicks the preacher's ***! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OfUVmfNk4E) (And, for Opeth fans, that is Mikael Akerfeldt on vocals and Martin Axenrot on drums.)

metal134

04-09-2011, 12:10 AM

Hells yeah! I had no idea Akerfeldt was in a supergroup. He is one of the all-time greats. 10/10

I gotta post this one as much for the video as the song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHb4gs1hwck

MarkBastable

04-09-2011, 06:27 AM

Irredeemably pointless. 0/10.

No - hang on - I'll give it 1/10 for collecting together a bunch of CCTV and amateur footage of unsuspecting people and making fun of them.

It took balls to release this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34Zf1Q5hW8o)in 1969, even if you were the Beatles.

Shalot

04-09-2011, 10:25 AM

8/10

Reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUWzeOcBYxI

metal134

04-09-2011, 01:08 PM

It took balls to release this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34Zf1Q5hW8o)in 1969, even if you were the Beatles.
I guarantee that if someone had posted that very same song and it were by, say, Black Sabbath instead of the Beatles, you would have been "blah blah blah, snippy snotty 1/10"

Last song: Kinda trippy 7/10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OorZcOzNcgE

MarkBastable

04-09-2011, 01:10 PM

I guarantee that if someone had posted that very same song and it were by, say, Black Sabbath instead of the Beatles, you would have been "blah blah blah, snippy snotty 1/10"

I'm not sure that makes sense even as a theory, let alone as a guarantee.

I think Purple have aged less well than a lot of their contemporaries, and it's something to do with the bottom end. You can't knock the playing, but it all sounds very specifically 1971 in a way that, for instance, Sabbath don't - which is odd, because the guys in Purple were much better musicians. Maybe the thing about Purple is that they were so perfectly a creation of their time, it's difficult for them to transcend it. 6/10

Possibly better than the studio version. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aIhh9nFYv4&feature=related)

metal134

04-09-2011, 01:18 PM

Sure does make sense.

MarkBastable

04-09-2011, 01:52 PM

Sure does make sense.

Not really - because I'd like any band who could write that, and the fact that I liked them would be a known fact around here, so that when I said I liked that song, you'd say it was because I liked the band and if any other band had recorded it, I'd be snotty about it.

The difference here, I think, is that I don't believe any band but the Beatles could have written that, which is why I like them and it.

Whereas you seem to think that, for instance, Sabbath could have written it, which I think is a pretty flawed proposition.

Gilliatt Gurgle

04-09-2011, 02:38 PM

This is a tough one...let's think about this; the guy pissed on the Alamo, but I must consider the music only. The song takes me back to a time when I was attempting to outrun blacktop bullies through a field of dew soaked field of grass in my my bell bottoms and earth shoes.

For the fond memories, I'll give it 7/10.

I'm not sure who authored this next one, but the voice is wonderful. (A random pick from my collection of albums)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD71Ks6DXeg

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae114/tabuka1/Misc%20Album/IMGP1514.jpg

metal134

04-09-2011, 03:26 PM

Not really - because I'd like any band who could write that, and the fact that I liked them would be a known fact around here, so that when I said I liked that song, you'd say it was because I liked the band and if any other band had recorded it, I'd be snotty about it.

The difference here, I think, is that I don't believe any band but the Beatles could have written that, which is why I like them and it.

Whereas you seem to think that, for instance, Sabbath could have written it, which I think is a pretty flawed proposition.
Nope.

MarkBastable

04-09-2011, 04:48 PM

Nope.

Succinctly argued, as ever. Not necessarily a clear argument, but a short one.

To get back to your original snipe...

I guarantee that if someone had posted that very same song and it were by, say, Black Sabbath instead of the Beatles, you would have been "blah blah blah, snippy snotty 1/10

...is your contention that I'm snotty (which, in your terms, I'd probably admit to) or that I'm inconsistent (which I'm happy to argue against, though it'd be pointless, because the assessment of my consistency is bound to be 100% in my terms, and less than that in yours)?

MarkBastable

04-09-2011, 06:48 PM

the guy pissed on the Alamo

True. But this is Ozzie. You can diss him for being a bit stupid (and we wouldn't claim him as our most sparky export), but it's difficult to suggest that he was making an anti-American post-colonial point that implied even the vaguest disrespect to a national monument. He just needed a piss, and he found a wall. That's about as insightful as he gets.

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-09-2011, 06:51 PM

I'm with metal, even if he isn't arguing his point as well as it could be. Whether or not Black Sabbath could have written that song is irrelevant. He's saying if they, or any metal band (or, maybe more particularly, modern metal), did release that song, or any song similar to it, you most likely would write it off as soon as you realized it was a metal band. You seem to have pretty strict preconceived notions on just about any genre of music that you don't like, and immediately discard it with out even attempting to acknowledge the genre's obvious and irrefutable virtues (creativity, song structure, musicianship). Frankly, you're just close-minded. And, that's okay; at least you seem to realize it. I am too when it comes to certain things: reality television, modern country-rock, dance as an "art."

Anyways, as to Gilliat's song. . . .

Bearable for one song. I felt like I was in a tacky Mexican restaurant, though. That's not the music's fault, though. 6/10.

That penguin is BROOOOOOOOOOTAL!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iQ93L0jV6c)

P.S. Metal, the church Slayer vid was hilarious.

MarkBastable

04-10-2011, 01:11 AM

You seem to have pretty strict preconceived notions on just about any genre of music that you don't like, and immediately discard it with out even attempting to acknowledge the genre's obvious and irrefutable virtues (creativity, song structure, musicianship)

The notions aren't preconceived. They're conceived - on the basis of experience, as all notions are.

Those things that you list as virtues - I don't think they count in themselves. Creativity, structure, musicianship, imagination, originality, technique, vision are all ingredients that can be combined to make something worthwhile, but all of them feature in a lot of rubbish too.

The question, then, is: what does make a work of art worthwhile - and is it entirely subjective? I think that, actually, there's a large objective element, and it's analysable. It's not just down to 'personal taste' or 'just one opinion'. I think you can identify what's good and what's not, and why it's good or otherwise, and you pretty much have to do that case by case.

However, in a thread like this, no one wants to read that analysis every time, especially when the conclusion is 1/10. So it's better to be briefly dismissive of the stuff you don't like, unless you have something specific to say about it.

My brief dismissiveness doesn't change the music. It doesn't impugn anyone else's opinion of it. It doesn't even, actually, matter. In fact, as people often say when I'm 'snotty' about something, it reflects more on me than it does on the thing I'm being snotty about. Which is fine.

MystyrMystyry

04-10-2011, 02:11 AM

9/10 pinguinos on slow pills (actually the clips after that were amusing as well)

I've only just found an extended version of a classic track - excuse the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6IPBN6ARkE

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-10-2011, 07:26 AM

The notions aren't preconceived. They're conceived - on the basis of experience, as all notions are.

Those things that you list as virtues - I don't think they count in themselves. Creativity, structure, musicianship, imagination, originality, technique, vision are all ingredients that can be combined to make something worthwhile, but all of them feature in a lot of rubbish too.

The question, then, is: what does make a work of art worthwhile - and is it entirely subjective? I think that, actually, there's a large objective element, and it's analysable. It's not just down to 'personal taste' or 'just one opinion'. I think you can identify what's good and what's not, and why it's good or otherwise, and you pretty much have to do that case by case.

However, in a thread like this, no one wants to read that analysis every time, especially when the conclusion is 1/10. So it's better to be briefly dismissive of the stuff you don't like, unless you have something specific to say about it.

My brief dismissiveness doesn't change the music. It doesn't impugn anyone else's opinion of it. It doesn't even, actually, matter. In fact, as people often say when I'm 'snotty' about something, it reflects more on me than it does on the thing I'm being snotty about. Which is fine.
Hey, it's all cool with me, bro. Metal's just a bit rankled, like I was at first when I started participating in this thread. If he's like me, he'll take your 1s and 0s as badges of honor. :)

Though, I don't think there's any real objective way to analyze music. And, if there is, I highly doubt that objectivity somehow discards all modern heavy metal. Maybe your personal ideas of what that objectivity is, but it's not like there's a set of rules set in stone.

If no one has rated your song by later today, MM, I'll get to it. Just checkin' in, at the moment.

Gilliatt Gurgle

04-10-2011, 08:27 AM

True. But this is Ozzie...
...He just needed a piss, and he found a wall. That's about as insightful as he gets.

That man, that reincarnation of Santa Anna, left an indelible stain on the soul of Texas!
Gives a whole new meaning to those immortal words; “Remember the Alamo!”
In all honesty, his stain pales in comparison to the greater insult brought on by the sprawl of concrete, traffic and other forms of urban affliction pressing in on all sides.

9/10 pinguinos on slow pills (actually the clips after that were amusing as well)

I've only just found an extended version of a classic track - excuse the video

It is a peaceful Sunday morning, a Carolina Wren heralds the dawn and I have no mettle for metal, therefore my ranking, being influenced by the tranquil state, is 2/10.

Let’s consider the merits of Mr. Gallagher and Mr. Shean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkzAEGarl9Q&feature=related

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metal134

04-10-2011, 04:24 PM

The notions aren't preconceived. They're conceived - on the basis of experience, as all notions are.

Those things that you list as virtues - I don't think they count in themselves. Creativity, structure, musicianship, imagination, originality, technique, vision are all ingredients that can be combined to make something worthwhile, but all of them feature in a lot of rubbish too.

The question, then, is: what does make a work of art worthwhile - and is it entirely subjective? I think that, actually, there's a large objective element, and it's analysable. It's not just down to 'personal taste' or 'just one opinion'. I think you can identify what's good and what's not, and why it's good or otherwise, and you pretty much have to do that case by case.

However, in a thread like this, no one wants to read that analysis every time, especially when the conclusion is 1/10. So it's better to be briefly dismissive of the stuff you don't like, unless you have something specific to say about it.

My brief dismissiveness doesn't change the music. It doesn't impugn anyone else's opinion of it. It doesn't even, actually, matter. In fact, as people often say when I'm 'snotty' about something, it reflects more on me than it does on the thing I'm being snotty about. Which is fine.
That's all irrelevant to my point. That Black Sabbath COULD have wrote that song and that you WOULD have been immediatley dismissive of it . It doesn't really matter whether you like metal or not, I've given my share of 1s and 0s (as I'm about to in a minute) I just had to point out that you immediatley dismiss any heavy song (fine), but then post one, which is OK because it's the Beatles (who I do happen to love, BTW). That's all there was to that.

Last song. No words. No words. 0/10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA_Q19HFQig

MarkBastable

04-10-2011, 05:26 PM

That's all irrelevant to my point.

It's completely relevant to your point. You are commenting on the process by which I assess songs. I'm telling you what that process is. It's not, I assure you, the one you assume.

I just had to point out that you immediatley dismiss any heavy song (fine), but then post one, which is OK because it's the Beatles

It's not immediate. I listen to the songs. I mean - at least give me credit for doing the work. And when I listen, I don't judge the genre - I don't know enough about the genre to judge it. I judge the song.

But I disagree that the Beatles' song is 'heavy' in the sense that Opeth or Slayer are 'heavy'. I'd say that I Want You has about as much in common with modern metal as flamenco has in common with Abba's Fernando.

Keep posting metal. You may find one I like.

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-10-2011, 10:44 PM

First, I'd like to say I quite enjoyed that pleasant little throwback, Gilliat. I've always appreciated the Vaudeville stuff. Just throwin' that out there. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA_Q19HFQig
Never could get into The Black Crows. 4/10.

I'd say that I Want You has about as much in common with modern metal as flamenco has in common with Abba's Fernando.
While there aren't a ton of similarities, they are there. It's a very dark song, for one, and the groove almost has a doom-metal vibe.

A true master of his instrument. (http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7362330n&tag=contentMain;cbsCarousel) ("Amazing Grace" starts at around 1:34, if you, for some reason, want to skip the beginning awesomeness.)

OrphanPip

04-12-2011, 01:55 AM

I think you got your links cross MM, that goes to a 60 Minutes clip about the Vatican.

In the meantime, here is some early Bowie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VrqCBsbeuc&feature=related

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-12-2011, 09:17 AM

I think you got your links cross MM, that goes to a 60 Minutes clip about the Vatican.
:lol: Quite right, Pip. I was wondering why this thread died. Man, I wish someone would've said something sooner!

As to the Bowie song, I was very much pleasantly surprised. I liked that quite a bit. 8.5/10.

Correct link this time. . . .

A true master of his instrument. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEyEu-hS0fA) ("Amazing Grace" starts at around 1:34, if you, for some reason, want to skip the beginning awesomeness.)

The Comedian

04-12-2011, 01:36 PM

Now that's a song to grade papers by. I like it, mucho. 8/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T4SaNuxZO8&feature=related

MarkBastable

04-13-2011, 02:35 AM

Pretty good, of its type, which isn't a type I'm crazy about - but it hit me in the right spot today. 7/10

I think this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfr9ndkWxpA)can be read either as sensitivity or as self-pity, depending on how your own love life's going.

MystyrMystyry

04-13-2011, 07:46 AM

Good - 8/10 white rabbits

This is an artist whom along with a few sundry others perhaps is deserving of his own thread (except for there being a wealth of sites already dedicated to him)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrxePKps87k

(And if you don't like it go away)

MystyrMystyry

04-14-2011, 03:19 PM

Well I liked it 10/10

Here's a track that eveyone knows but couldn't recite the lyrics to save their lives

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA

Scheherazade

04-14-2011, 05:41 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJAWell, there was a time, I really liked this song so for the sake of those days: 7/10.

And here is a song I still like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h1oRP7FfBw

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-14-2011, 05:42 PM

Of Phil Collins's popular tripe, I've always enjoyed that song. Of course, I always see Mike Tyson punching Zach Galifankiwhatever when I hear it. 7/10.

EDIT: Scher swooped in and rated MM's song while I was writing. Luckily, I quite enjoyed Scher's song, too. 7.5/10.

The prog anthem. Part 1. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6xNhksHyXI) Part 2. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WunYz7Io-68&feature=related)

Shalot

04-14-2011, 09:43 PM

hmmmm....sort of jam bandish at first which was okay. Not a fan of that vocalist. Classic rock was way overdone in my town so I have to say less than 4/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMKaQO2d4k0

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-17-2011, 04:40 PM

Sorry, but that was just boring. 1.5/10.

Awesome riffs, awesome drums, just awesome. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nl_ttX031Y)

The Comedian

04-17-2011, 10:22 PM

Maybe if I was younger, angrier, and was more pent-up with repressed aggression, I'd like this song. But for me, well, as you described the song above, it just sounds boring.

But I'm sure the riffs are good. . .if you're into things like that. 3/10.

Good night! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkx68VTJ33o

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-18-2011, 09:28 AM

I hate country. But this isn't as horrible as a lot of country, and the accordion caught me by surprise, so 5/10.

Another Dwight Yoakam classic! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-n9gbn_oZg)

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-21-2011, 04:50 PM

Why has this died? Where'd all the regulars go?

MarkBastable

04-21-2011, 06:59 PM

As you ask, Puerto Rico.

Shalot

04-21-2011, 10:05 PM

Some folks call it hell. I call it Hades (that's my response to the last post with a song in it)

and now here's mine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtRNxl236No&feature=fvsr

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-22-2011, 12:21 AM

As you ask, Puerto Rico.
Well, get back in here when you get back so we can give each other's songs low ratings.

As to the song above me....

I have a general aversion to indie. This is a good example why. It just seems so bland.

One of the few indie bands I enjoy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dZ_SSDqJDE&feature=related)

Shalot

04-22-2011, 07:45 PM

KOL is indie? I thought they were headed towards mainstream douchery. actually indie douchery whatever, I really love 'em. not so wild about come around sundown so far but in fairness I haven't listened to it as much as the others.

anyway, about wilco. wilco is good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_HBJ5sHcJU&feature=related

faithosaurus

04-23-2011, 11:29 PM

Quite relaxing. 8/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wlEcgwjvcw

qimissung

04-23-2011, 11:53 PM

Intriguing. The melody is appealing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRYvuS9OxdA

MarkBastable

04-24-2011, 06:47 AM

I liked that more than I expected to. 7/10

My first encounter with Verlaine. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKgyjw478B8)

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-25-2011, 12:57 AM

It was okay. Seemed like a bit of a sloppy performance, but maybe that was intentional. 4/10.

You're going to hate this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyOSx62c2Ic)

The Comedian

04-25-2011, 01:49 PM

The energy of the song was good (though I'm seldom in the mood for that sort of thing anymore). The lyrics which were mostly: WAKE UP!WAKE UP!WAKE UP!WAKE UP!WAKE UP!WAKE UP!WAKE UP!WAKE UP!WAKE UP!WAKE UP!WAKE UP! were not that creative or engaging, however. 5/10

After that, I need a little twangy slow down: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vezn9t7n3hM

Scheherazade

04-25-2011, 06:01 PM

Not really my cup of tea but it was not so bad either: 4/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAf2S6ij2gk

The Comedian

04-25-2011, 09:16 PM

I guess we can't watch that video in the US. So, given that Scher posted it, I'll assume that it's something geeky, so I'll give it a generous 4/10. ;)

I'm still in the mood for a slow groove: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBuZBW4ys_Q&feature=related

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-25-2011, 11:34 PM

I've always liked Norah Jones, even if I think she's a tad overrated. Plus, she's hot. 7/10.

I like this because it has a nice tune to go with the awesome playing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4s7m-K39p0) And there's just something so pure about street performers.

MarkBastable

04-26-2011, 08:42 AM

I'd probably bung him a quid. 5/10

Inexcusably nasty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9glfTboudQ4), but I like it.

Paulclem

04-26-2011, 04:57 PM

I'd probably bung him a quid. 5/10

Inexcusably nasty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9glfTboudQ4), but I like it.

Hmmm. That sound is nostalgic. 5/10.

As is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2xdCvhvyqY&feature=related

MarkBastable

04-27-2011, 08:36 AM

I think Sham 69 had more in common with Mungo Jerry than The Clash, really. 4/10

Not bad for a boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMnzytIbH1I) born in Batley and raised in Scarborough.

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-27-2011, 11:49 PM

It was okay. Not my thing, generally. 5/10. Seriously though, Mark, do you listen to anything not British? :)

I saw them last night. They were AMAZING. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zew6hGsFNXQ)

MarkBastable

04-28-2011, 05:12 AM

Seriously though, Mark, do you listen to anything not British? :)

Sure. Though just about every aspect of Sneakin' Sally is thoroughly American, with the tiny exception that the singer wasn't born there. And the one I posted before that was completely American. As was the one before that. In fact, looking back over the last ten or twelve songs I've posted, about half are American artists. So I may have missed the point of the question.

As to Dillinger, quite nice, then a bit wet, then horrible, then alright, then horrible again. 4/10

Here's someone not British (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDBtvvjjC4g&feature=related), singing a cheerful little ditty that was banned from karaoke machines in case it encouraged depressed people to perform codified 'goodbye-cruel-worlds' in front of everyone at the pub before going home to take a bath with a three-bar heater.

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-28-2011, 09:59 AM

Sure. Though just about every aspect of Sneakin' Sally is thoroughly American, with the tiny exception that the singer wasn't born there. And the one I posted before that was completely American. As was the one before that. In fact, looking back over the last ten or twelve songs I've posted, about half are American artists. So I may have missed the point of the question.
More like I didn't listen to those songs, and made a mistake which resulted in a churlish question that was attempting to make a point that didn't exist. :nod:

Here's someone not British (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDBtvvjjC4g&feature=related), singing a cheerful little ditty that was banned from karaoke machines in case it encouraged depressed people to perform codified 'goodbye-cruel-worlds' in front of everyone at the pub before going home to take a bath with a three-bar heater.
I liked it. I always like cheery sounding tunes paired with depressing lyrics, for some reason. 7/10.

Deftones were the headlining band Tuesday night, and the played this song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um7ySTHsCf0) with Greg Puciato from DEP filling in for Maynard. It was awesome.

OrphanPip

04-29-2011, 06:09 PM

Parts of that are enjoyable 4/10.

Now, just to F with people, here's a Korean boy band, I just can't get why they don't stick with like 4-5 members, at a certain point you'd think someone at the record company would draw a line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnMoDDbEccE&feature=relmfu

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-29-2011, 07:07 PM

I'm proud of myself, because I actually listened to that whole thing. I also made several observations. First, up until now I thought American boy-band members were the most effeminate looking men on the planet. There also seem to be some international rules when it comes to boy bands: each group must have a rap interlude, each group must have a chubby and/or unattractive member, and they gots ta dance, dance, dance! Oh, and the women they hang out with are exceedingly stupid, so much so that they can't tie their own shoes and are entertained by balloon foolery. 2/10 since I can't understand the surely horrible lyrics.

I need a palate cleanser! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SRD6mjrUMo)

OrphanPip

04-29-2011, 07:24 PM

Well the song is aptly named, I suppose. 2/10

Let's try out a girl group now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ

They're better than the Spice Girls at least.

Scheherazade

04-29-2011, 07:42 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ

They're better than the Spice Girls at least.They are prettier too! 3/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TBmeK9Abg

Mutatis-Mutandis

04-29-2011, 08:06 PM

That song bothers me, Pip. I find those girls very attractive, but they could be 12, which is troubling. Darn Asians.

MystyrMystyry

04-30-2011, 06:14 AM

Discotheque mid-seventies 7/10 (She paints pictures nowadays)

This is a little bit of strange

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqmpHPiMiDE

MarkBastable

04-30-2011, 07:50 AM

Odd and rather wonderful, though you do have to be in the mood. 8/10

The music was by Neil Ardley, who was once mentor to subsequently-married couple Jon Hiseman (drums) and Barbara Thompson (sax), currently of Paraphanalia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUBw0IbLyJw&feature=related)and, as it happens, my neighbours.

MystyrMystyry

05-01-2011, 06:25 AM

That was totally good 9/10

Here's a golden oldie - could have been a better sound recording but you'd miss the video - think I'll work on that tomorrow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sn1UqbbbqQ

OrphanPip

05-01-2011, 07:48 PM

I like it well enough, 8/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8lntoH78Lc&feature=related

For Muta, an Asian girl group composed of women who definitely can't pass for 12.

Mutatis-Mutandis

05-02-2011, 11:10 PM

No, they don't look 12, that's for sure. I didn't necessarily enjoy it, but it's just so freakin' bizzarre I kind of like it. 6/10

Not a type of song I'd usually like, but I just can't help but enjoy this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3jT3_Vu9rQ). It makes me smile. Vocals kind of remind me of Steely Dan in sections. I also enjoyed the movie.

MarkBastable

05-03-2011, 06:42 AM

Unexpectedly enjoyable in a frothy strawberry kinda way. 7/10

As you mentioned them (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSVjwbiXRvI).....

Mutatis-Mutandis

05-03-2011, 09:23 AM

Good song. I just like how he writes songs, and great lyrics to boot. 8/10.

The first song is one of my favorites by Steely Dan. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc3qcKNmgyI)

MarkBastable

05-04-2011, 09:57 AM

Good song. I just like how he writes songs, and great lyrics to boot. 8/10.

The first song is one of my favorites by Steely Dan. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc3qcKNmgyI)

To be pedantic, it's 'how they write songs'.

I prefer the second of those two, but in any event it's a 9/10.

Taking the Beatles as read, there are days on which I think that Steely Dan are my favourite band. The only real competition is Costello, up to about 1985. So here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_e07VZjdTU)more...

When my son was very young, I made sure he was around a lot of intelligent and well-crafted music, because that stuff shapes you for life. When he was five, I was walking past his bedroom at about ten at night and I could hear him in the dark singing "And I'm going insane - I'm laughing at the frozen rain. Oh, and I'm so alone - honey, when they gonna send me home...?" When he was six, he auditioned for the part of Joseph in the school nativity play by singing XTC's Towers of London. (He ended up as Third Shepherd From The Left, but I try not to blame Andy Partridge for that.)

Fourteen years later, the kid's turned out pretty good, apart from an inexplicable devotion to techo-rave-psycho-dance crap.

Mutatis-Mutandis

05-04-2011, 10:37 AM

To be pedantic, it's 'how they write songs'.
Before doing a little Wikipedia research, I assumed that the songs were pretty much written solely by the lead singer, who I also assumed was named Dan (unless 'Dan' can be a nickname for 'Donald'). Obviously, I'm pretty new to their music, and only just started listening to it a few weeks ago, aside from when I heard my dad playing it. You do learn something new everyday.

Taking the Beatles as read, there are days on which I think that Steely Dan are my favourite band. The only real competition is Costello, up to about 1985. So here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_e07VZjdTU)more...
I liked it, despite the use of "pina colada" in the lyrics. 8/10.

When my son was very young, I made sure he was around a lot of intelligent and well-crafted music, because that stuff shapes you for life. When he was five, I was walking past his bedroom at about ten at night and I could hear him in the dark singing "And I'm going insane - I'm laughing at the frozen rain. Oh, and I'm so alone - honey, when they gonna send me home...?" When he was six, he auditioned for the part of Joseph in the school nativity play by singing XTC's Towers of London. (He ended up as Third Shepherd From The Left, but I try not to blame Andy Partridge for that.)
My dad did much the same with me. I grew up listening to a lot of jazz and jazz fusion (Al Di Meola, Pat Methany, Chick Korea, progressive rock (Yes, Genesis, etc.), and, of course, great stuff like The Beatles and Costello. I didn't realize how much I enjoyed that music until I was well into high school. Well-rounded musical taste is one of the greatest things my dad gave me. It was my cousin who veered me into the realms of heavy metal, and I then veered my dad into heavy metal, also. It's fun seeing metal bands with my dad (rarely do you see fathers and sons at metal concerts).

Fourteen years later, the kid's turned out pretty good, apart from an inexplicable devotion to techo-rave-psycho-dance crap.
:lol:

So as to not make this into an exchange of Steely Dan songs, I'll go a different direction. . . .

How about some avant-garde jazz hardcore fusion! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PynbhqRlsbc)

Shalot

05-04-2011, 09:34 PM

um. My neice once played percussion with the pots and pan she pulled out of the drawer under the oven.

alright. so here is mine. I can't stop listening to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8HNakhSp38

Mutatis-Mutandis

05-04-2011, 10:44 PM

um. My neice once played percussion with the pots and pan she pulled out of the drawer under the oven.
Since there's no rating, I assumed you loved it. Good for you, being open minded. I just find Naked City fascinating.

alright. so here is mine. I can't stop listening to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8HNakhSp38
I can. I just don't dig that 80s sound. 3.5/10

This band continues to solidify itself as one of the most creative and innovative metal bands out there. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgrQvQOFCkY) (For those who hate metal [which, unless metal134 decides to show back up, is pretty much everyone :)], try to ignore the screaming and appreciate the technicality and complexity of the composition.)

MarkBastable

05-05-2011, 08:51 AM

This band continues to solidify itself as one of the most creative and innovative metal bands out there. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgrQvQOFCkY)

I suspect they are solidifying themselves as a pre-emptive defence against someone trying to liquidate them.

... try to ignore the screaming and appreciate the technicality and complexity of the composition.)

See, there's the problem for me. Technicality and complexity are not in themselves appreciable. They're not ends; they're means. And in this case, I can't see what they're for - they don't tell me anything apart from the fact that these guys can play and they can remember a lot of time signatures.

So - y'know - no surprise, really, that this is a 3/10 for me. And it only got that many because it followed Morrissey, whom I despise to the depths of my blackened soul.

Declan covers Nick. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RVDQgVxprE) I may have this as the 'everybody shuffles out of the chapel' music at my funeral.

Mutatis-Mutandis

05-05-2011, 09:21 AM

See, there's the problem for me. Technicality and complexity are not in themselves appreciable. They're not ends; they're means. And in this case, I can't see what they're for - they don't tell me anything apart from the fact that these guys can play and they can remember a lot of time signatures.
Well, I don't know what it's for either. I don't really know what you mean by what they're "for," really. The only thing they're for that I can possibly think of is to produce a different type of sound. I like technicality and complexity--I become quickly bored with very straight and standard song structures (with exceptions, of course). I guess if if one wants to stick to formulaic (and I do not use that word pejoratively, at least not in this case) music because that's just what they enjoy, I get that. Well, not really--I rarely understand someone else's tastes.

I'm glad you appreciate the skill, though. Did you at least enjoy some parts of the song? It wasn't all screaming and complexity, after all.

Declan covers Nick. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RVDQgVxprE) I may have this as the 'everybody shuffles out of the chapel' music at my funeral.
I'm a Costello fan, but this isn't one of my favorite songs of his. 6/10.

I prefer his later work, and usually like his more subdued songs, like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi50yFMZ49E).

MarkBastable

05-05-2011, 09:35 AM

I'm a Costello fan, but this isn't one of my favorite songs of his. 6/10.

I prefer his later work, and usually like his more subdued songs, like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi50yFMZ49E).

It's not his, actually. It's Nick Lowe's. But as Lowe himself said, "Elvis has been doing it for so long and so well, I've kinda forgotten I wrote it."

I fell out of love with Costello somewhere around Spike, but of his subsequent work All This Useless Beauty is one of the best songs. In fact I was listening to it on the way into work today. 8/10

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP_vzH7981w&feature=related)was written by Allan Toussaint, who did an album with Costello a few years back. It's about as uncomplicated as pop music gets, really, but it works perfectly for me.

Mutatis-Mutandis

05-05-2011, 10:54 PM

It actually works for me, too. 7/10. I like the horn section. And is that an actual 1967 live recording? It sounds amazing.

This is what is missing with current popular music, in my opinion, and the problem is I can't really define what this song has that current pop-songs don't. I guess it can only be described as heart, or soul. There just seems to be a genuine quality in old pop that has vanished.

When I can't think of anything to post (and I don't feel like being sadistic and posting a metal song) it never hurts to post a song by the greatest band to have ever existed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XtdQTLL-XU)

The Comedian

05-06-2011, 02:10 PM

Mutatis-Mutandis

05-06-2011, 05:15 PM

I'm sure both Mutatis & Mark can agree that my judgment is impaired in this regard: the Beatles never do much for me. I don't "hate" them or anything. But when I hear their songs, I just get a feeling of. . ."meh..." So to honor the great mediocrity that I feel of the above song, I'll give it a 5/10
Thanks for giving Mark and me something we can agree on, lol.

I'm in the mood for Fiona: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFOzayDpWoI[/QUOTE]
Well, I kind of feel the same way about Ms. Apple as you do about The Beatles. Not horrible, not really memorable for me. 5/10.

Bartok is awesome. Plus, kudos to Ritter for playing this without any sheet music. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE3nSZ1Yb5g)

MarkBastable

05-06-2011, 09:28 PM

On the subject of the Beatles, I'd say my own opinion is best expressed here (http://www.myspace.com/markbastable), in the para marked 'Music'. (The bold type isn't mine. MySpace seems to have decided on it without consulting me.)

Here's my problem with Bartok. Ahem. Technicality and complexity are not in themselves appreciable. They're not ends; they're means. And in this case, I can't see what they're for - they don't tell me anything apart from the fact that these guys can play and they can remember a lot of time signatures. 3/10

At the other end of the scale of involvement in the process of production, Eno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe-mzPkW3JI&feature=related).

qimissung

05-06-2011, 10:43 PM

Wow! I thought I was flying through space, looking at the planets and the stars, or floating on a cloud, looking up at the big blue and white, or going into the light...10/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpSYulUFncE

Mutatis-Mutandis

05-06-2011, 11:13 PM

Do you like anything with technicality or complexity, Mark?

Technicality and complexity are not in themselves appreciable. .
I disagree.

As qimissung's song. . . .

I kept waiting for it to kick in, and it never did, which was frustrating. But, the lyrics were good, so 5/10.

My favorite progressive death metal band doing a decidedly un-death metal song. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHBzSqeM6KQ)

MarkBastable

05-08-2011, 02:01 PM

Do you like anything with technicality or complexity, Mark?

Well, depends on the complexity. So harmonic complexity, yes - bring it on. Rhythmic complexity, not usually, if it's the changes in rhythm that are complex, but I don't mind if the established rhythm is complex.

And on the technical side - everything I like is crammed to the gills with technical prowess, because technical prowess is simply the ability to play the piece precisely as it should be played. What I rarely like is a piece that appears to be written mostly in order to show how it should be played. Moreover, no amount of technical proficiency, however impressive, will make an unengaging piece of music engaging.

I hope that helps.

Mutatis-Mutandis

05-08-2011, 11:02 PM

That helps quite a bit, actually, and makes sense.

Now, someone rate my song! I don't care if it gets a 0, though I always hope a song is enjoyed.

Mutatis-Mutandis

05-09-2011, 10:20 PM

Alright, if no one want to rate that, how about this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA1L0SsEXxU)?

MarkBastable

05-11-2011, 08:44 AM

I was staying out of it to give someone else a chance, but wotthehell...

The Opeth thing, I thought, was a perfectly serviceable - if slightly long - ballad, though there's a chord change around the 2:55 mark which was a nice idea but which didn't work in practice. It's one of those things which, played on an acoustic guitar in your hotel room, sounds unsettling and cool, but with an entire band in tow comes over as heavy-handed and a tad contrived. 5/10

The Bach was pretty good - made me want to pour a kir royale and read the Sunday papers in the garden. We should bear in mind that Bach was actually Mozart - which is more than can be said for Mozart who was not, in fact, Mozart. (http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59357) 8/10

Lucrative though it must have been to join the bloody awful Eagles, I'd say that that move was the end of Joe Walsh as a creative artist. Not that this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txhaQ6D4IKs)is immortal music, but it's pretty special American blue-collar-stoner rock'n'roll.

Mutatis-Mutandis

05-11-2011, 09:20 AM

The Opeth thing, I thought, was a perfectly serviceable - if slightly long - ballad, though there's a chord change around the 2:55 mark which was a nice idea but which didn't work in practice. It's one of those things which, played on an acoustic guitar in your hotel room, sounds unsettling and cool, but with an entire band in tow comes over as heavy-handed and a tad contrived. 5/10

No way! That's the best part. :lol:

As to your song, it was perfectly described, and while enjoyable, it went on a bit long, I think. 6/10.

Something a little different from me. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWD8b9eIROI&feature=player_embedded)

MarkBastable

05-13-2011, 11:13 AM

Not desperately memorable, to be honest. 4/10

B-B-B-B-Battery Brides (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr3ArWo0SlY&feature=related).

qimissung

05-13-2011, 10:36 PM

I've never heard of XTC or that song, and it was quite interesting, MarkBastable. Not really to my taste, but I've never heard anything like it. If I was to describe it as a physical being, I would say that it was a modern art piece made of black onyx. Most intriguing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tEgzGnzojc

Shalot

05-17-2011, 08:45 PM

9/10 - that is nice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

The Comedian

05-18-2011, 03:04 PM

Not one of my favorites 4/10 -- the line "no one knows what it's like to be hated" sounds just too whiny-teen for me to get beyond.

Song here sort of describes my mood right now:
Lonesome, On'ry And Mean. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qzctdbSRQI&feature=related)

Mutatis-Mutandis

05-19-2011, 09:38 AM

Not too bad, for country-rock. 5/10.

A little sample of one of the few modern progressive rock bands that have broken through to the main stream (at least, as far as any prog-rock band can). (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Z99cGSfzs)

MarkBastable

05-19-2011, 12:29 PM

Not awful, though it does sound like Yes auditioning Simon le Bon. 5/10

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmHFEUy-Z5w)is going back a bit. So there's a shock.

OrphanPip

05-20-2011, 12:49 AM

I like, but not a fan of vocals and lyrics 8/10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXT4k3hFUYg

The Comedian

05-20-2011, 04:29 PM

Enjoyed the song (guy's voice was really good). 6/10

I'm really feelin' this song right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gqT6En2O78

OrphanPip

05-20-2011, 07:54 PM

I can't take Tom Petty, although Free Fallin' isn't one of the worst of his songs. 3/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lxw6A6scvU

MarkBastable

05-21-2011, 04:03 AM

I liked that - unpretentious, homespun and fun. 8/10

Uncharacteristically for me, an instrumental (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5WyeEHUf6Q&feature=youtube_gdata).

Mutatis-Mutandis

05-22-2011, 02:06 AM

Well, grats on posting a link to the song with least views. Who is Waverly? Wikipedia came up with nothing (that matched, at least).

In any case, I found it's oddity a bit charming, but an overal extremely ponderous piece with no real pay-off. 4/10.

Saw this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9inMPQg0DU) performed Friday night, and it gave me goosebumps.

MarkBastable

05-22-2011, 04:09 AM

Well, grats on posting a link to the song with least views. Who is Waverly? Wikipedia came up with nothing (that matched, at least).

In any case, I found it's oddity a bit charming, but an overal extremely ponderous piece with no real pay-off. 4/10.

I agree with you about the lack of payoff. The cyclical nature of the thing needs to build up a centripetal force that, in the last minute or so, throws the listener towards something.

What's interesting about it, I think, is not the music itself, but the fact that it was composed, executed and mixed on a single iPhone app during a half hour train journey into London Bridge. Twenty years ago, to do something like that, even on synths, would have cost a fortune and taken days. Now you can do it on the way to work when you forgot to buy a newspaper.

Mutatis-Mutandis

05-22-2011, 07:23 AM

I agree with you about the lack of payoff. The cyclical nature of the thing needs to build up a centripetal force that, in the last minute or so, throws the listener towards something.

What's interesting about it, I think, is not the music itself, but the fact that it was composed, executed and mixed on a single iPhone app during a half hour train journey into London Bridge. Twenty years ago, to do something like that, even on synths, would have cost a fortune and taken days. Now you can do it on the way to work when you forgot to buy a newspaper.
If I knew that, I think I would have definitely given it a higher rating, probably 6, just for the novelty. I actually thought they were real instruments (something sounded a little off, though, so my ear isn't completely inept). I think I saw them (or a group doing the same thing here in America). Still, I don't know how I feel about a song of this (sound) quality being composed and produced on phones. Part of me thinks it's cool, and part of me finds it oddly heretical.

OrphanPip

05-22-2011, 01:43 PM

I couldn't stand that annoying baso ostinato, but I didn't want to respond in case there was some sort of personal connection to the piece.

@MM

Probably one of the most popular and accessible pieces of "classical" music. However, there is a reason for that popularity, and I love most everything French Impressionist when it comes to music. 10/10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Xm7s9eGxU

I'll go for some more Impressionism.

Shalot

05-23-2011, 09:23 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Xm7s9eGxU

This is good 9/10 - it makes me think of a Saturday afternoon in the late winter - early spring. It's not cold, but it's not warm. It's not sunny, but it's not raining. She's inside looking out the window, pacing the hardward floors in a house or apartment with light greens and blues on the walls and in the curtains and on the furniture. She's not happy, or sad, or nervous or frantic - she might be slightly bored for the moment, but she'll have something to do later --- the world hasn't kicked her in the *** just yet. That's the image that came to mind when I heard this music...is that weird? probably. Does anyone else hear music and see a scene? Maybe it's because I watch a lot of movies.

Here's mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJLOr8S2d2E

OrphanPip

05-23-2011, 11:32 PM

This is good 9/10 - it makes me think of a Saturday afternoon in the late winter - early spring. It's not cold, but it's not warm. It's not sunny, but it's not raining. She's inside looking out the window, pacing the hardward floors in a house or apartment with light greens and blues on the walls and in the curtains and on the furniture. She's not happy, or sad, or nervous or frantic - she might be slightly bored for the moment, but she'll have something to do later --- the world hasn't kicked her in the *** just yet. That's the image that came to mind when I heard this music...is that weird? probably. Does anyone else hear music and see a scene? Maybe it's because I watch a lot of movies.

Usually not, but that's kind of the goal of impressionist music though. So, it's appropriate.

Oddly enough, the name of the piece comes from children who would perform nude dances prior to events in Sparta. Gymno = gymnasium, paede = child.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnopaedia