Let out the ARTIST in you!!!!

[Annamariah]

I started drawing this a week ago when I was travelling by train and finished it today.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z284/kaislaneito/Taide/piirrosp3.png
Sorry about the bad quality, I only have a webcam so I that's the best I can do.

[AdoreroDio]

That's a beautiful drawing, if that is a bad quality photo than I want to see the actual thing! You are very talented.

[Chava]

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh95/Mositiva/PB-Litnet.jpg

Bored and weary last night, so i did what I always do when melancholi, I drew something. This is a self portrait, from the pirate days :) hope you like it.

[sprinks]

Wow thats amazing! Your shading is excellent

[Pensive]

Very nice Anna and Chava! I loved the facial expressions, Chava.

[Chava]

Thanks both of you :)

[ben.!]

Here's a little ditty out of my drawing book. I tend to draw strange, surreal cartoons.

Not sure how to put images in the post direct from the computer, so I put it as a little attachment. Hope you like! :D

[toni]

That's a very cute ninja, ben :D

[Sweets America]

Chava, I love your self-portrait!! That's very good job!! :)

[AimusSage]

This is 'Bob', just after his retirement from the supra dimensional association of sentient paper that border on infinite age.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/Aimussage/bobnbob2.jpg

It's just a bit of fiddling with photoshop, but I liked how it came out. :) It's been ages since I used photoshop for anything but quick touch ups anyway.
In case you're wondering, it's supposed to look like a face on a crumbled piece of paper with a few torn bits here and there.

[ben.!]

That's a very cute ninja, ben :D

Haha thanks! :p


This is 'Bob', just after his retirement from the supra dimensional association of sentient paper that border on infinite age.

I like the ambiguity of it, AimusSage. :)

It's an interesting effect you employ in your drawing.

Here's another:

[Lily Adams]

I did this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vceYfJzrbaE)

Based offa this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2tZqXWa7no&feature=related)

And in my signature.

[sprinks]

Yay, thanks to the wonderful advice of Sweets I can show you guys my art!! :D

Here's my finished studio piece for TEE Art... The first photo of many to come! :D This drawing took me about 8 hours to do...

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn292/sprinks_album/art/finished.jpg

[tractatus]

Very talented Sprinks. Bravo!
Well done hatching as well.

[sprinks]

Thankyou tractatus :D

[Sweets America]

Yeah, Sprinks, that's quite excellent! The cool thing is that it takes time to look at everything, the details, that's a very nice piece! :)

[sprinks]

Thanks Sweets :) The only thing is that you can see, especially in the clouds, where I kept moving the paper when I was doing the lines and they ended up crooked! :lol:

[Lily Adams]

That's BEAUTIFUL!!! Boy, I sure do love art! (Me too!)

That is really great detail. I love you style, sprinks. It's very different. :D

[sprinks]

Thanks Lily!! :D The teacher tends to complain about my style because I'm such a perfectionist with my work and she hates it! I'm a very difficult art student :lol:

I've posted more art on my blog, but I'll post my favourite one now, a locust drawn in fineliner and water, actually I'll post the one with my locust compared to the photo I drew it from:

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn292/sprinks_album/art/locust.jpg

[Shannanigan]

Wow, Sprinks, those are really good! I've always been so jealous of people who can draw, which is funny, because I recently met and got close to a new friend, and found out he can draw, like, REALLY well...I'll post what he drew for my birthday here :D

As promised, the picture my friend drew me for my birthday, using only pencil, charcoal, and a red marker.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k204/shannanigan8/Museedit.jpg

edit: a little explanation...The female character is Anita Blake from the new graphic novel series based on Laurell K. Hamilton's vampire hunter novels. (I am obsessed with the series, which is why he chose to draw here). The face in the background is my friend's msn avatar, and "Muse of the Darkness" comes from my group of friends and I, who call ourselves the "Darkness Clan," and I am known as the clan's "Muse"...since I'm always coming up with bright ideas about what to do when we're bored, lol.

[Sarasvati21]

Wow, everyone is so talented!!

Here are a few of mine:

http://picasaweb.google.com/21sarasvati

[Lily Adams]

Thanks Lily!! :D The teacher tends to complain about my style because I'm such a perfectionist with my work and she hates it! I'm a very difficult art student :lol:

What the?! What kinda art teacher is that?!

That locust is pretty cool. You really do have a very different style. I can't place my finger on it, but it is indeed very intricate.



Whoah, so's that birthday drawing, Shannanigan!

[Sarasvati21]

'Birthday drawing,' Lily?

[sprinks]

What the?! What kinda art teacher is that?!

That locust is pretty cool. You really do have a very different style. I can't place my finger on it, but it is indeed very intricate.


:lol: Exactly. I'm just holding out 'till next year when we get to do our own thing! And then I can do what I like and she can't do a thing! :p. I miss our old art teacher, to him EVERYTHING was art. Some girl scribbled over this horse she drew and he was like "That is amazing! It is art!" whereas my new art teacher told me at the start of the year I would fail because my outlines are too dark and I'm too much of a perfectionist :flare:


And thankyou all for your compliments! :blush: :)

[Sweets America]

Wooooo, this birthday drawing is just brilliant!!

Oh, Sprinks, I have news for you: your teacher is stupid and kind of mean.

[sprinks]

It's good to know people agree with me :p - I almost dropped art because of her, and many of my friends who are great artists didn't do art this year because they didn't want her as a teacher, which is really sad.

This isn't my best thing, but it was done in my favourite medium - fineliner and water. It was one of my practise angels before the final one.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn292/sprinks_album/art/archangelmichael-1.jpg

[Shannanigan]

'Birthday drawing,' Lily?

The drawing I posted was a birthday gift ;)

I love all these drawings! (so jealous!) :p

[Lily Adams]

'Birthday drawing,' Lily?

Yeah, I meant Shaninnigan, sorry. :blush:


:lol: Exactly. I'm just holding out 'till next year when we get to do our own thing! And then I can do what I like and she can't do a thing! :p. I miss our old art teacher, to him EVERYTHING was art. Some girl scribbled over this horse she drew and he was like "That is amazing! It is art!" whereas my new art teacher told me at the start of the year I would fail because my outlines are too dark and I'm too much of a perfectionist :flare:

That person is not an art teacher and does not understand the meaning of art.

I am kinda scared for next year at school. I'll be taking Art I, my first formal art class, and I don't want the teacher to tell me what to do. D: Ew. It'll be like when I took band. :sick: I hope not...or else the teacher will look at my drawings be all, "What the HECK is that?!"

But I think I'm over-thinking it. :D

[sprinks]

That person is not an art teacher and does not understand the meaning of art.

I am kinda scared for next year at school. I'll be taking Art I, my first formal art class, and I don't want the teacher to tell me what to do. D: Ew. It'll be like when I took band. :sick: I hope not...or else the teacher will look at my drawings be all, "What the HECK is that?!"

But I think I'm over-thinking it. :D

Good luck with your art class :), and if your teacher tells you what to do like mine does we'll group together and have a mutiny!! A rebellion!! We'll paint over the world in our own unique styles!! That'll teach them, they wont be able to stop us! :p

[Chava]

Ok, i feel the need to stand up for my art teachers over the years. Ever since i started taking art seriously, around 9th grade, teachers have had to put up with me doing my own thing. Conversations would go along the lines of "You don't think shading the bricks will make the background too dark..?" "no" end of story.
However, when i took art in my too last years of high school, i had to start moving away from my traditional way of drawing to answer the assignments. And yeah, spending hours doing assignments about drawing trees, or round objects is a bore. But in the end it's those techniques you gather that help you develop your own style. And regardless how good i thought i had done someting, my excellent teacher could always point out a flaw, and so i ended up working very hard on my art to make it just right. There will always be room for improvement with me.
For now i'm very happy with the versatility i have adopted. I can work in most media's, and i'm no longer in the rut of my 'dark' drawings, i can post them for you if you want to see my 'then' and 'now' movement.

My brother had a bad art teacher. He adopted the 'wrong' and 'right' attitude which is not always correct. (sometimes your work can be 'wrong' not in the sense that it isn't art, but in the sense that it doesn't fulfill criteria and assignments.) He would rip my brothers drawings apart if he found them 'wrong'. Now that... is a bad art teacher.

[sprinks]

Ok, i feel the need to stand up for my art teachers over the years. Ever since i started taking art seriously, around 9th grade, teachers have had to put up with me doing my own thing. Conversations would go along the lines of "You don't think shading the bricks will make the background too dark..?" "no" end of story.
However, when i took art in my too last years of high school, i had to start moving away from my traditional way of drawing to answer the assignments. And yeah, spending hours doing assignments about drawing trees, or round objects is a bore. But in the end it's those techniques you gather that help you develop your own style. And regardless how good i thought i had done someting, my excellent teacher could always point out a flaw, and so i ended up working very hard on my art to make it just right. There will always be room for improvement with me.
For now i'm very happy with the versatility i have adopted. I can work in most media's, and i'm no longer in the rut of my 'dark' drawings, i can post them for you if you want to see my 'then' and 'now' movement.


What is hard, for almost my entire art class, is that we never learnt art. I've got one friend who's had actual classes for drawing etc. but apart from that, especially myself, I've never learnt to draw or anything at all, excepting one class in year 9 where we learnt to do water colour painting. That... was all. So none of us know art terms either, which makes essays hard, but no teachers ever sat us down and taught us different techniques or terms.

I point out my flaws more than my teacher does. The locust that I drew and posted around the place, I found about 8 places where I messed up and wasn't happy with it, but the teacher had ONE criticism.

I'm thankful to my year 8 art teacher. He was the first one to ever notice my "talent". He encouraged me to continue doing art in the following years, and if it wasn't for that I would have abandoned art completely about 3 years ago, as I didn't think I was any good at art at all (Which is untrue if you see my art that I've posted.)

But it's been hard going from one extreme to another in teaching styles, and it's a little to do with being in year 11, but a major part is the teachers themselves. My art teacher said to me at the start of the year "I can see you're going to be one of those students" I'm still not clear as to what she meant exactly :lol:



My brother had a bad art teacher. He adopted the 'wrong' and 'right' attitude which is not always correct. (sometimes your work can be 'wrong' not in the sense that it isn't art, but in the sense that it doesn't fulfill criteria and assignments.) He would rip my brothers drawings apart if he found them 'wrong'. Now that... is a bad art teacher.

Well then my art teacher is still a bad art teacher. She throws peoples drawings out if they aren't "right" which actually deeply hurt some of my friends.

[Lily Adams]

Good luck with your art class :), and if your teacher tells you what to do like mine does we'll group together and have a mutiny!! A rebellion!! We'll paint over the world in our own unique styles!! That'll teach them, they wont be able to stop us! :p

Thank you. :)

YEAH! We could be PIRATES! Arrrr!

They won't. >: D *high fives with tentacle*

[Sweets America]

Well then my art teacher is still a bad art teacher. She throws peoples drawings out if they aren't "right" which actually deeply hurt some of my friends.

I can't understand this attitude, that's crazy! I remember my art teacher when I was younger, she said I should carry on with art because I had talent, and I loved drawing and painting but I did not go into this field, partly because I was young and adults around told me that this field had no future....and I was too stupid not to listen to them. Anyway all studies have no future, if you listen to people! :lol:
But my art classes were extremely relaxing to me, I loved them, and I never lost this relaxing feeling, I have it everytime I draw.

Oh, Sprinks, I need to ask you...do you have a foot fetish or something? :D Because I see feet everywhere in your posts. :p

[sprinks]

Thank you. :)

YEAH! We could be PIRATES! Arrrr!

They won't. >: D *high fives with tentacle*

:lol: yeah next time the art teacher says something I don't like or asks me why I haven't done what she wants I'll reply "Arrrr me hearty, me parrot flew away and I had to sail the seven seas looking for 'im! No time for doing your work there when I gots me parrot to look for!" Then after she gives me a weird look I'll tell her it's a mutiny :p


I can't understand this attitude, that's crazy! I remember my art teacher when I was younger, she said I should carry on with art because I had talent, and I loved drawing and painting but I did not go into this field, partly because I was young and adults around told me that this field had no future....and I was too stupid not to listen to them. Anyway all studies have no future, if you listen to people! :lol:
But my art classes were extremely relaxing to me, I loved them, and I never lost this relaxing feeling, I have it everytime I draw.

Oh, Sprinks, I need to ask you...do you have a foot fetish or something? :D Because I see feet everywhere in your posts. :p

:lol: yeah whenever someone suggests that I become an artist I prompty am reminded by someone else that "it's a lonely life as an artist and it's hard to make money!!" But then again... yeah, I get told that about most studies :p
For some reason I just can not work in class. At home I can sit for 8 hours straight and draw and paint and everything... But when I'm in class I just freeze and don't do a thing. I think it's mainly to do with being watched by people (our classes are very, well, open, and it's easy to watch people) and they're criticising me and those desks are just so darn uncomfortable! :lol:

I can assure you I don't have a foot fetish!! :p I got bored one night and played around with my profile... And decided at the time to use photos from camp... Actually both those photos are from the same place... My avatar is my legs (stripy knee high socks are awesome! :D) at the cascades, and in my signature its a photo of when one of my best friends, a friend of ours and I put our feet into the water at the cascades after walking 7 km! :D

[Sweets America]

:lol: yeah whenever someone suggests that I become an artist I prompty am reminded by someone else that "it's a lonely life as an artist and it's hard to make money!!" But then again... yeah, I get told that about most studies :p
For some reason I just can not work in class. At home I can sit for 8 hours straight and draw and paint and everything... But when I'm in class I just freeze and don't do a thing. I think it's mainly to do with being watched by people (our classes are very, well, open, and it's easy to watch people) and they're criticising me and those desks are just so darn uncomfortable! :lol:

I can assure you I don't have a foot fetish!! :p I got bored one night and played around with my profile... And decided at the time to use photos from camp... Actually both those photos are from the same place... My avatar is my legs (stripy knee high socks are awesome! :D) at the cascades, and in my signature its a photo of when one of my best friends, a friend of ours and I put our feet into the water at the cascades after walking 7 km! :D

I was not very at ease in class either but it was ok, once I was in my drawing it was peaceful, and we also discussed with the others so it was cool. I remember it was every Friday, the last class of the week, that was great.

Actually I wonder if I might be the one with the foot fetish because I love your avatar, those socks!! They look great! :D Oh and the feeling of putting your feet in fresh water after a long walk must be so grand. :p

[sprinks]

I was not very at ease in class either but it was ok, once I was in my drawing it was peaceful, and we also discussed with the others so it was cool. I remember it was every Friday, the last class of the week, that was great.
:lol: That's the time I had my art class last year! But this year I have it every day - apart from Wednesdays, and I have it twice on Tuesdays. I guess it doesn't help that I don't really get on with this one girl in particular who tends to sit near me and I'm just so uncomfortable, there's this whole negative vibe thing going on from her. Also some of my friends are... well I don't know what they are but sometimes when I draw something and it turns out really good, they ignore me.



Actually I wonder if I might be the one with the foot fetish because I love your avatar, those socks!! They look great! :D Oh and the feeling of putting your feet in fresh water after a long walk must be so grand. :p

Thanks :)- it was just a random photo that I took while we were there, but I think it suits me for an avatar :D, I don't have a foot fetish but I have a bit of a knee high sock fetish!! :lol: I have quite a few pairs and the ones in my avatar are a pair that my friend gave me for Christmas, and you can't see in the photo but they actually have little yellow dogs on them near the toes.

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These self portraits are really annoying me now :p. I keep doing the eyes too big!! :lol: and I also make my nose too long... Oh well. Maybe I can use this all to my advantage in the final piece? I'd like a focus on my eyes in the final piece - after all, eyes are the windows to the soul!! :D
I've done another 2 pictures - shall post them in my blog soon. I'm starting to realise that I've got the same look on my face in almost all my photos!! :lol: Sort of a blank but deep in thought and kind of happy look. I shall play around with some different facial expressions soon :D

[stlukesguild]

As an artist and an art teacher I should add a few thoughts here about art and teaching art. Sprinks mentioned missing an old art teacher to whom "everything was art." I must say that such is a rather misguided notion that evolved out of a lot of the ideas circulating around conceptual art. Everything is NOT art. If everything were art we wouldn't need the word "Art," we could just say "everything." Murder is not Art. War is NOT Art. A terrorist blowing up innocent women and children is NOT Art. In most instances scribbling is NOT Art. Art is not merely self-expression, either. When you scream profanities at someone with whom you have become angry or you punch them you certainly have expressed yourself... but it is not art. A baby crying because he or she is wet or hungry expresses a definite dissatisfaction... but it is certainly NOT Art. Art involves a degree of aesthetic structure and logic... perhaps "beauty" to use a term that is too often confused with the merely "pretty". It also demands a great deal of discipline... as much or more than any other field. Most art teachers build their lessons upon a curriculum which intends to teach students certain aspects or elements of art in a logical manner. It is often difficult to see the logic involved until years later... when and if one has gained a deeper understanding and ability in the field.

Some teachers are more progressive in accepting work that does not meet the established criteria. Others are not. One would not fault a literature teacher for criticizing a student who turns in a three-minute musical recording of themselves performing an song on the theme of Lord or the Rings when the assignment was an 8-page essay upon Don Quixote. If a teacher stipulates that the goal of a given project is to focus upon the rapid or spontaneous mark making... or to work upon creating an image that conveys a solidity of form without the use of contour lines, then one should not be surprised if one does not get a stellar response if that is not what is turned in. Nothing stops the artist/student from doing what he or she desires in his/her own free time. Work done for assignments are expected to meet a certain criteria because the goal is to push the student into learning specific concepts and broadening his or her visual vocabulary.

Certainly, I cannot speak of any specific art teacher; there are good and bad teachers in every field... but I do highly doubt that a teacher would be likely to disapprove of "perfectionism" or excessive detail. It may simply be that what the teacher was stressing in a given assignment was a greater freedom... an expressiveness... an understanding of the expressive capabilities of something more bold... graphic... spontaneous. It may also be that a teacher will recognize the usual adolescent love of extreme surface detail which can never mask the flaws in the foundation of composition, form, anatomy, etc... (Rather like a well painted and wall-papered house poorly built and lacking foundation.

Certainly I would never rip up a student work that falls short of the stated goals nor go out of my way to dissuade a student by telling him or her that they will never make it as an artist. On the other hand... I will never lie to a student either and allow them to imagine that everything is art, everyone can be an artist, and all that is needed is to express oneself. Art IS a difficult and competitive career and it DOES demand discipline and more.

[Sarasvati21]

As an artist and an art teacher I should add a few thoughts here about art and teaching art. Sprinks mentioned missing an old art teacher to whom "everything was art." I must say that such is a rather misguided notion that evolved out of a lot of the ideas circulating around conceptual art. Everything is NOT art. If everything were art we wouldn't need the word "Art," we could just say "everything." Murder is not Art. War is NOT Art. A terrorist blowing up innocent women and children is NOT Art. In most instances scribbling is NOT Art. Art is not merely self-expression, either. When you scream profanities at someone with whom you have become angry or you punch them you certainly have expressed yourself... but it is not art. A baby crying because he or she is wet or hungry expresses a definite dissatisfaction... but it is certainly NOT Art. Art involves a degree of aesthetic structure and logic... perhaps "beauty" to use a term that is too often confused with the merely "pretty". It also demands a great deal of discipline... as much or more than any other field. Most art teachers build their lessons upon a curriculum which intends to teach students certain aspects or elements of art in a logical manner. It is often difficult to see the logic involved until years later... when and if one has gained a deeper understanding and ability in the field.

I think, Stlukesguild, that you have taken Sprinks' comment about the teacher "to whom everything was art" sorely out of context and into an unreasonable extreme. Of course the things you mentioned are not art. How on earth could they be? But Sprinks' teacher was referring to the works completed by his students. He was not concerned if the specific criteria for shading the side of an apple with crosshatch were met or not. He had a beautiful appreciation for anything and everything his students created. Why should he have trampled on the enjoyment they got out of the things they did? Comparing his meaning with war, terrorism, profanities, and unhappy children is rather ridiculous, and quite frankly, the comparison between such dissimilar things makes you look just ever so slightly silly.

Art and and artists are so wonderful because they don't have to be logical. It is the only field where one can do something merely because one thinks it looks good, or feels right. A student can't do that in an English class, a science class, or a math class, without being told they are incorrect. Van Gogh, Michelangelo, and almost every other innovative artist through history were told that the way they approached their work was "incorrect," and yet we appreciate them so much today.

By placing so many restrictions on art, much of the beauty which is found in its previous spontaneity will be lost. If everyone is taught and expected to perform in the same manner, there will be no individualistic touch to shine through the piece, nothing to make it special. Just because something does not meet your text-book criteria for what art is does not mean that it is not beautiful, and it certainly does not mean that it is not art.

[stlukesguild]

I think, Stlukesguild, that you have taken Sprinks' comment about the teacher "to whom everything was art" sorely out of context and into an unreasonable extreme. Of course the things you mentioned are not art. How on earth could they be? But Sprinks' teacher was referring to the works completed by his students. He was not concerned if the specific criteria for shading the side of an apple with crosshatch were met or not. He had a beautiful appreciation for anything and everything his students created. Why should he have trampled on the enjoyment they got out of the things they did? Comparing his meaning with war, terrorism, profanities, and unhappy children is rather ridiculous, and quite frankly, the comparison between such dissimilar things makes you look just ever so slightly silly.

How is that? What was spoken of was a teacher who held the philosophy that "everything is art". This idea of blurring the division between art and life... art and everything has had an increasing following in academia and art schools for quite some time. It was this philosophy to which I spoke... and this is a philosophy the fallacy of which is immediately made clear when one takes it to its logical... but certainly absurd (even silly) extreme. To say that "everything is art" immediately ignores the fact that there is plainly much that is not art. It was this very concept that Duchamp was confronting when he placed a urinal (his Fountain) in the art gallery. He was challenging the viewer to think about just what constitutes ART. Does something become art simply because an artist has made it? (I make much that is not art) Does something become art merely because the creator says it is so? neither you nor I can know what were the intentions of Sprink's teacher without a heck of a lot more information so I would suggest that you are assuming as much or more than me in your interpretation of him/her as this noble person who saw art in all that his students did. As an art lover and an artist and a teacher I can certainly appreciate art which "breaks the rules". On the other hand... as an art teacher I am also setting certain goals... challenging students to learn certain skills or concepts... and so I certainly have the expectation, at times, that certain goals or criteria be met.

Art and and artists are so wonderful because they don't have to be logical. It is the only field where one can do something merely because one thinks it looks good, or feels right. A student can't do that in an English class, a science class, or a math class, without being told they are incorrect. Van Gogh, Michelangelo, and almost every other innovative artist through history were told that the way they approached their work was "incorrect," and yet we appreciate them so much today.

It is quite easy to over-romanticize art. Yes... artists often break rules... but in most instances they are aware of the rules they are breaking and they have a logical reason for doing so...if only to achieve an internal logic within the work itself. The narrative of art history often focuses upon the great rebellions and broken rules... but it should be noted that Michelangelo and Van Gogh and any number of other artistic masters whom you think to name employed any number of formal "rules" relating to composition, color harmonies, etc... for each "rule" they broke. Inspiration exists, as Picasso noted, but every successful work of art owes as much or more to a degree of logic, intellect, and structure.

By placing so many restrictions on art, much of the beauty which is found in its previous spontaneity will be lost. If everyone is taught and expected to perform in the same manner, there will be no individualistic touch to shine through the piece, nothing to make it special. Just because something does not meet your text-book criteria for what art is does not mean that it is not beautiful, and it certainly does not mean that it is not art.

Personally I am of the belief that the role of a school... an institution... is to teach the foundation. I do not believe ART can be taught. All that one can teach is the vocabulary... the ability to use the formal elements and the materials competently. What one does with that knowledge is certainly up to the individual. Personally I find it absurd to suggest that a teacher is poor because he or she has certain expectations for a given assignment. To infer that for a teacher/artist/art lover who suggests that there are standards in art... that there is art that is "good", "bad" and everything in between is stuck upon a text-book criteria of what constitutes "beauty" completely ignores the fact that a good many teachers/artists/art lovers may have quite a broad notion of Art everything from Ancient Greek ceramics to Persian miniatures, to Japanese prints, to African wood carvings, to Renaissance paintings, to Abstract Expressionism, to Post-Modern appropriation. It is quite easy when one is a student to assume that one's teacher, when he or she finds some fault with one's work, simply does not recognize the brilliant cutting edge originality. In most cases, a teacher at all well-versed in his or her field has seen and is quite likely appreciative of far more innovative works of art than might be imagined.

[sprinks]

How is that? What was spoken of was a teacher who held the philosophy that "everything is art".

In response to what you posted, stlukesguild, I understand what you were saying... Point taken. I apologise for not being specific, I knew what I was saying in my mind (I tend to live in my own head too much, makes it hard to have conversations sometimes.), and of course having proir knowledge of my own thoughts and actions means that I meant it in a different context to what you interpreted. I feel bad for not being specific - because I'm always at people to stop generalising because I hate it when they do. But what you interpreted isn't what I meant.



I think, Stlukesguild, that you have taken Sprinks' comment about the teacher "to whom everything was art" sorely out of context and into an unreasonable extreme. Of course the things you mentioned are not art. How on earth could they be? But Sprinks' teacher was referring to the works completed by his students. He was not concerned if the specific criteria for shading the side of an apple with crosshatch were met or not. He had a beautiful appreciation for anything and everything his students created. Why should he have trampled on the enjoyment they got out of the things they did? Comparing his meaning with war, terrorism, profanities, and unhappy children is rather ridiculous, and quite frankly, the comparison between such dissimilar things makes you look just ever so slightly silly.
Thankyou for understanding, basically everything you said is what I was thinking. :) I think also the reason stlukesguild took what I said out of context is because I'd already had some prior discussion with others about it all, so my mind was thinking of it all as if the people I was talking to already knew in what context exactly I meant it.


Art and and artists are so wonderful because they don't have to be logical. It is the only field where one can do something merely because one thinks it looks good, or feels right. A student can't do that in an English class, a science class, or a math class, without being told they are incorrect.
I always use the artist stereotype to my advantage whenever I can :lol:. Not that I believe in stereotypes, nor am I a stereotypical artist, but it's always good to have it as an excuse :p Especially since I'm not exactly logical often... I have my own logic :p
I must admit though, in our drama class at least, we are also allowed to have a bit more freedom, it really is a class where we can express ourselves; whereas (once again, in my own personal classes that I attend) we are always told in art that we can be creative and do what we want and honestly I'm too tired to think of EXACTLY what we got told; but the point is that we aren't able to.


Look, my teacher is a good art teacher. My other art teachers have been good art teachers. I'm a difficult art student. Why? Because even though art can't be taught as such, I never learnt the basics either (I learnt very little to be exact, I learnt some, but not much at all). So everything I do is based on natural talent, which is why my, well, style I guess you could say, is so much more, well, stronger (I can't think of how to describe what I mean) than (some of) the other students, and thats what the teachers problem is - getting me out of these habits that I developed out of teaching myself.

I hope I'm being clear (I have a feeling I'm not though) and yes there is a lot more that I could say - but I don't have the time right now. :)

[stlukesguild]

...everything I do is based on natural talent, which is why my, well, style I guess you could say, is so much more, well, stronger (I can't think of how to describe what I mean) than (some of) the other students, and thats what the teachers problem is - getting me out of these habits that I developed out of teaching myself.

This past Saturday I was participating in a critique in a college drawing class in which we were discussing the work of a young student who had developed a great style that immediately made her work stand out from most of the other students... quite sophisticated and stylized ala Gustav Klimt or Aubrey Beardsley. In no way would I nor any teacher worth that position wish to stifle that originality of style. However I did stress that this student need also confront what was difficult for her: working from observation... drawing what she saw as she saw it. I made it clear that this was not because I wished to silence her creativity, but rather that I wished to challenge her further and help her develop the tools to make what she does do even stronger. Developing a style can often turn into a trap as one falls into habits (good or bad) and repetition: always drawing an eye this way, always drawing a hand that way. Reality is quick to challenge us and lead us away from repetition. It is also true that the more tools an artist has the more options are open to him or her. Being able to paint like this:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k255/Stlukesguild/opp95-04.jpg

In no way prevented Picasso from also painting like this:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k255/Stlukesguild/GirlMirrorsmall.jpg

[mortalterror]

I agree with StLuke. Creative does not mean undisciplined, and freedom does not mean without restraint.

[stlukesguild]

Creative does not mean undisciplined, and freedom does not mean without restraint.

That is what I dislike about the notion that "everything is art"... it ignores the fact that art certainly demands discipline. "Art" and "Self-Expression" are not one and the same.

[eyemaker]

All the art works are really great!I'll try posting some of my drawing here!

[Annamariah]

Most of the works people are posting here are drawings, but surely snow sculptures are some sort of art too? I know it's not winter yet, but I just remembered the snow princess I built two winters ago :D
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z284/kaislaneito/Taide/IMG_3725.jpg

[Pensive]

Most of the works people are posting here are drawings, but surely snow sculptures are some sort of art too? I know it's not winter yet, but I just remembered the snow princess I built two winters ago :D
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z284/kaislaneito/Taide/IMG_3725.jpg

Now that is pretty good!

[blazeofglory]

Well, I'm a budding artist -- haha -- and I draw a lot. I'm thinking that some of the LitNet members (it could be you!) like to draw and would wish to post it here. :D

Here's mine:

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/Reccura-Himura/geisha.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/Reccura-Himura/flamingo.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/Reccura-Himura/filipina.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/Reccura-Himura/deities-2.jpg

Where's yours? I would want to see it, so are the others. Post on! ;) ;)

Amazing! I am a bad artist. But I appreciate them.

[peregria]

Hi Recura,

I was attracted by the beautiful rose and I discover your drawings in pencils, such nice colors and great inventivity; is never easy to do something interesting only with pencils.

I just came in the Forum and I am glad to descover this thread, I will comeback another time to read all the pages.

If you have time and interest take a look to my blog and see what I am doing now:

I ad in here a digital painting done in ArtRage , I will be glad to have your opinion on it.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_kYNEqeBFRiw/SReJWYn4LgI/AAAAAAAACIk/SU29cvPv9I4/s720/004.jpg

Peregria

[1n50mn14]

*grumbles*... art snobs... if it comes from the heart, 'tis art, 'tis art!

Nice work, Lit-Netters... everybody here has loads of talent aside from writing.

[Niamh]

thats lovely peregria. thanks for sharing. :)

[stlukesguild]

*grumbles*... art snobs... if it comes from the heart, 'tis art, 'tis art!

While this is a noble enough sentiment... I cannot agree. There are artists that build upon the senses and there are artists who build upon ideas... as much as there are those who build upon sentiment or feeling. None of these on its own is any assurance that the result is ART. I hold ART to dearly to believe that we can throw that title around lightly to each and every scribble, doodle, and belch. The young girl's random musings in her diary... obsessions over whether Bobby really likes her, etc... certainly speak from the heart... but rarely attain the level of ART.

Marcel Duchamp played with the question of "what is art" and "when does something become art" nearly a century ago. Few understood his irony: Everything CAN be ART... but NOT everything IS ART. All that an artist can hope for with a degree of certainty is that with time and effort he or she will improve as a craftsman. Every artistic vocabulary or medium (painting, drawing, print, collage, assemblage, film, ceramic, metalry, etc...) is first and foremost a craft. I realize this in spite of the great respect I hold for the Renaissance artists who struggled to raise painting and sculpture and architecture to the level of the "fine arts"... something above the baser crafts of the blacksmith or the carpenter. But the welder can certainly be an artist (look at David Smith or Deborah Butterfield)... and there is no assurance that the painter will achieve anything more than the well-crafted image/object.

A work attains the level of art when it is acknowledged or recognized as such by the larger art community. The medieval illuminated manuscripts were created by scribes that would have never thought of themselves as artists... and yet their works are unquestionably ART. The illustrated books of the institutionalized Adolf Wolfli were certainly never thought of as ART by their creator... or by most of those who initially came into contact with them (more likley they were imagined as the ramblings of a madman)... and yet they are also ART. By the same token... not every mere doodle or scribble of the sensitive teenager... nor every well-crafted painting or sculpture by the academically-trained painter/sculptor is assured the rank of ART.

[higley]

bump bump da bump

Where did all the arts go?

Here is an experimental portrait of Elizabeth I (don't you laugh):
http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww21/dinonikk/colorcompcopy1.png

Kinda scary. She looked like a martian at one point.

Aaaand

http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww21/dinonikk/nashvillecatssmall.jpg

Might redo this one but still fun :D Bit washed out on the screen.

[Chava]

Higley, you're awesome! :)

[Niamh]

Higley, you're awesome! :)

took the words right out of my mouth!!!!! :eek:

[Page Turner]

Here's a few I did many years ago.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/RailroadHatPat/debbie.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/RailroadHatPat/art008.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/RailroadHatPat/art006.jpg

[higley]

Very cool! I particularly like the second.

[jinjang]

Wow! higley, Page Turner, you both are very talented! I am really impressed.
You are not in art major?

Although Elizabeth is really well done, I prefer Jazz musicians for fun as you said.
Page Turner, which is your favorite? I think I like the third one the best because I always favor landscapes over the portraits.

I look forward to seeing more!

[Page Turner]

Thanks guys. I meant to mention earlier how much I liked higley's work. I find the Elizabeth piece very striking, especially like the way you did the hair.

jinjang: I'm not an art major but I did take a couple of art classes in college. I guess the Hendrix portrait is my favorite just because I really liked him, actually got to see him in concert once!

I have a few more pieces I could post but one is a nude and I'm not sure how that would go over on this site. It's been taken off my photobucket site a few times so I'm guessing no. :)

[sprinks]

I feel a bit out of place posting here again, you guys are amazing! But hey, I am just 16 with very little experience :) (I blogged more info about my latest painting today)

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/samham_album/S7308101.jpg

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss38/samham_album/S7308117.jpg
(got quite a lot of work left on that book in my hands (the pic is me when I was 4) and gotta rework the hair and some other places)

[kiz_paws]

Sprinks, that is awesome!

and to Higley, Page Turner, peregria -- I love to see what you are working on. Great job! :)

[Stargazer86]

Wow I've only looked at this page thus far in the thread and Higley, PageTurner, and Sprinks, you're all amazingly good!

[sprinks]

thanks kizzo and stargazer! :)

[higley]

Nice, Sprinks! I like the attention to detail, I'd have been too lazy to do all that to the sweater. :D

[sprinks]

thanks higley! :) yeah that took me about a whole day alone, with a very small brush :lol:

[Niamh]

thats amazing sprinks!!!!

[sprinks]

thanks Niamh! :)

[stlukesguild]

Since the social group for artists has seemingly died "not with a bang, but a whimper" (no postings since April) I thought I might get a few more looks here. I recently completed the latest in my series of "nude icons". :banana: The painting is mixed media (acrylic, oil, pastel, gold leaf on paper) and measures 43 x 80". The tentative title is Speak No Evil... although my wife also suggested Lilith. My work, at present, is very much inspired by my love of art history... and in this body of work it is Japanese, Byzantine, Indian, early Renaissance, and Persian painting, sculpture, mosaics, etc... art styles that favored flat patterns and design and were unabashedly "decorative"... that are of the greatest influence. I'm also enamored of the simplified figurative work of such Modern/Contemporary artists as Balthus, Matisse, Bonnard, and George Tooker. The forms of the figure and the surrounding architectural space are intentionally simplified in order to stress the flat, decorative, 2-dimensional design. The space itself follows ideas of earlier Renaissance and medieval... as well as Japanese... concepts of perspective. The surface is quite textured... "weathered" or "distressed" through layers of paint and pastel as well as through sanding. I posted a number of detail shots to give some idea of this surface. I also included a studio installation shot with a couple other paintings and my studio mates in order to give some idea of the scale of the work.
Thanks for looking.:wave:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/3781352565_24e066007c_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3481/3781352673_2293c426bd_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2434/3781352763_7d5cd34f48_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2436/3781353085_c6c2a14932_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/3781352855_c45693215b_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3528/3782165068_5c5e5b577f_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3481/3781404441_991d3eb37b_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2429/3782165162_b18da97c79_o.jpg

[weltanschauung]

very nice, pastels always strike my curiosity because it is practically IMPOSSIBLE to work with them properly, but you did it.

this is a logo i did a while ago:
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/facist_jockitch/ddl/Imagem005-4.jpg

its nothing extraordinary but its one of the favorites ive done so far.

[stlukesguild]

Personally, I never found pastels all that difficult. Of course I spent years drawing with charcoal and you learn how to hold it and manipulate it so that you don't drag you hand over what you've just drawn and make a huge smeary mess.

What is the graphic design for?

[weltanschauung]

all the experiences ive had with pastel were quite embarrassing.. i have a hard time with coloring and pastels are like the rocket science of drawing.

i did it for an ex-friend of mine's site, he used it as a banner for a while because he thought it was cool... but i just did it because i wanted to please him http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/9.gif
http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAJnpyuiL5wIiym39HWhjXE_nXFKz_O6lnf65sHvG89vZ6G DG8Tw6Es7YOhkiqd4xm4AAbp-Mu1EZUI4Lwh_Ia7cAm1T1UIzng8fH9EtAC6B1aTDR785xSfPN. jpg



i generally stick to the easy stuff cause im not by any means talented in this field..
http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAIGNFTdsLKSw5RjMkT__ZXdyrQ3B7vQJtdmF1sPe4u_JE9 ehm_XPRMC39yAxlp9QeDwilnt3kjkPn8dMUADIf2MAm1T1UPWw ZQK2e-8A7UZUgF3b3yfvTNQG.jpg

[stlukesguild]

all the experiences ive had with pastel were quite embarrassing.. i have a hard time with coloring and pastels are like the rocket science of drawing.

I never found pastel to be all that difficult... although you are not the only one to speak of it as more than challenging. I find that it offers a great merger of drawing and painting which is undoubtedly why Degas loved it so much... not to mention myself. I do agree, however, that color is hard. In drawing one must deal with line and shape and form and value and contrast etc... When you add color the difficulty increases exponentially. There are warm and cool reds. There is the question of chroma or intensity. There is the challenge of getting colors to harmonize as well as to sit where you wish them to sit in spatial terms and not appear to jump froward or recede more than they should. Then there is the surprise that happens when one color is placed next to another... or under another. Such effects can be guessed at with experience... but their are still surprises when something that "should" have looked good looks like crap when placed along side the other colors. My art school training stressed color a great deal. The head of the painting department was a master colorist and he and many others had studied under Josef Albers, the great German color theorist from the Bauhaus.

[weltanschauung]

well, im an engineer and never had any training in arts, so it makes it even harder for me to play with it. it also adds injury the fact that im somewhat lazy to draw. ive read some color theory books like goethe's but theory is so very far from practice...

[blazeofglory]

The artist in us needs to be manifested into words or painted into something

[stlukesguild]

I don't have an artist in me that needs to be let out. I am an artist. How good or bad is something we always leave up to the opinions of others.:wave:

[weltanschauung]

The artist in us needs to be manifested into words or painted into something

i manifest it through living. writing is not my thing, too obvious.
thinking is a form of art, physics is artistic.

[weltanschauung]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/facist_jockitch/ddl/scan00011.jpg

bleh.

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

Stumbled onto this thread and couldn’t resist the temptation. While studying architecture I developed a fondness for watercolor and graphite technique for rendering. I have included a few examples of pieces I had completed “back in the day”.

This is my first attempt at attaching images using the attachment manager, so I hopefully this works.

The first picture is a watercolor and graphite piece showing elements of Andrea Palladio’s Villa Capra (la Rotunda) in Italy. The composition juxtaposes various elements of the building such as floor plan, elevation and details loosely based on the Ecole des Beaux Arts tradition. Size is approximately 6” x 6” square.

“Cubist Clutter” A random watercolor and graphite sketch. The original was given away as a birthday card.

An architect’s version of a Christmas card (holiday card for those so inclined). Kind of odd I know. It served as the office holiday card for mass mailing to clients, etc.

One of a series of “Sketches on the Fly” while travelling in Europe back in the late 1980’s. This particular drawing shows St. Nicolas Church in Frankfurt am Main, Germany. The Church was built in the 13th century.

Gilliatt

[Niamh]

Think this was my second attempt at oils... painted on cardboard. only medium i had at the time. Its actually a lot darker than this.. just the sun shining on it.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q268/niamhking/paining001.jpg

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

Niamh,
Nice work.
Could you or anyone explain how to post images directly in the reply window as you and many others have done?
I figured out how to attach as a link.

Thanks for th help.
Gilliatt

[Niamh]

Most of us use image hosting sites like photopucket. If you set up an account with them you can up load your photos to them directly. them all you have to do is copy the [IMG] tags from your page and paste them here and the image appears. :)

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

Most of us use image hosting sites like photopucket. If you set up an account with them you can up load your photos to them directly. them all you have to do is copy the [IMG] tags from your page and paste them here and the image appears. :)

Niamh,
I wanted to jump back to this thread and see if I can get my image to appear.
Since your last response, I joined Photobucket to see if I can get this to work.
This is primarily a test. (I'm technologically old fashioned, so bear with me)

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae114/tabuka1/Album1/VillaCapra_WatercolorandGraphite.jpg

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

Whoa, that worked, but it is quite large!

[Niamh]

Large is good! :p congrats!

[higley]

You drew that? That is EXTREMELY cool, I want it on my wall.

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

Higley,

Thank you for the kind words and to answer your question; yes that is a small piece I had completed roughly twenty years ago. Not sure it would be very successful on a wall, given that it is about six inches square, but I appreciate the sentiment. This piece along with a few others is described in more detail under post no. 327. You can see more images there.
Watercolor is unforgiving especially when it comes to laying down a uniform and flawless background wash. It took many weeks to master. Maybe that is why I kept it small-less area to screw up.

“Experimental Portrait of Elizabeth I” is striking! I would say the experiment was quite successful. Are the roses a nod to her Tudor lineage? Clearly, this is a woman not to be trifled with.
What media did you use? It appears to be pastel. Great work!

Niamh,
I wanted to take a moment and thank for your guidance in posting photos.

Gilliatt

[Niamh]

your welcome. :)

[higley]

Thanks Gill :D Yes the roses were a nod to the Tudor family, I was looking for some symbolic space filler. It was actually done on the computer, which is why it was sort of an experiment, since I'm more used to traditional mediums. You ought to post more work, that painting was really nice.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/higleykid/harry%20potter%20fanart/liontamer.png

sort of fun. :) I keep tooling around with the empty space on the computer.

[Zee.]

Higley, that is absolutely gorgeous.

[toni]

Mr Gillat - You must be an architect.
Higley - I second limajean's statement. :D

I've been dabbling on watercolor the past week and got these results. :)
Hope you enjoy them as much as I enjoyed painting them.
The first one is a portrait of Kafka's. The second is of John Lennon

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7364/castpartay008.jpg

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4593/castpartay005.jpg

[DanielBenoit]

Wow. Amazing toni! I especially like the Kafka one, though the pink background somewhat puzzles me, I suppose it just adds to the ironic ambiguity (if you will) of his life and works. As far as the eyes go, you hit a bullseye. I looked at it without reading the description and immedietly I thought "Kafka?" those big, longing, German eyes are so unique of a complexion. There is such despair in them which can easily be seen in this painting. And though I think there is somewhat of an error in the hair, big tumbs up :thumbs_up, you've made a very complex painting.

[toni]

Wow. Amazing toni! I especially like the Kafka one, though the pink background somewhat puzzles me, I suppose it just adds to the ironic ambiguity (if you will) of his life and works. As far as the eyes go, you hit a bullseye. I looked at it without reading the description and immedietly I thought "Kafka?" those big, longing, German eyes are so unique of a complexion. There is such despair in them which can easily be seen in this painting. And though I think there is somewhat of an error in the hair, big tumbs up :thumbs_up, you've made a very complex painting.

Thank you very kindly for your compliments! Kafka is truly one of a kind and I've always been fascinated with his life and works. The pink background was actually an accident; I intended for it to be gray or monochromatic but the brush got out of hand as I was painting his shirt. It left me without a choice but to paint the rest of the background pink as well. As for the hair..well yes, it seems that I have yet to master the art of painting. But I do, try really hard!
Thanks for your appreciation. :angel:

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

I've been dabbling on watercolor the past week and got these results.
Hope you enjoy them as much as I enjoyed painting them.
The first one is a portrait of Kafka's. The second is of John Lennon.

Mr Gillat - You must be an architect.



Toni,
Great work!
It is nice to see another watercolorist in the house.

If you are new to watercolor as a medium, I wanted to pass on a few tips:

Watercolor is unforgiving especially when applying background washes, so be patient.

The French made “Arches” paper is the best and practically the only choice available, for producing the best quality work. When I was prolific in my painting many years ago, I would use inexpensive spiral bound papers to practice a technique or tinker with a certain detail, then use the Arches paper for the final piece. (Arches can be a bit pricey especially for an art student).
Here is a random link I found regarding Arches:

http://www.cheapjoes.com/art-supplies/4830_arches-watercolor-paper.asp

In regards to brushes, be sure to use natural Sable hair brushes. Again, they are more costly, but they are a far cry better than synthetic brushes.

I noticed you have been part of the Forums for some time, so you are most likely aware of the Saint that lu(r)kes among the corridors of this guild. The saint is exceedingly knowledgeable in the world of art and is often cornered for his honest and informative critique.

Yes; but don’t broadcast that too loudly. There is a particular bloke from London that is extremely critical, or should I say wary of architects and the havoc they often wreak. See the “Architecture and You” thread.

Gilliatt

[Niamh]

Wow Higley! thats so cool!

[qimissung]

I love your lion, Higley. It is cool So majestic as he gets his comb out! :) Toni, yours are also excellent. I, too, love the Kafka one-I think the pink kind of makes his expressive eyes stand out.

And Gilliatt Gurgle I adore yours! I want it on my wall, too! They can be blown up so they are larger, can't they? Well, how about it? :)

[toni]

Toni,
Great work!
It is nice to see another watercolorist in the house.

If you are new to watercolor as a medium, I wanted to pass on a few tips:

Watercolor is unforgiving especially when applying background washes, so be patient.

The French made “Arches” paper is the best and practically the only choice available, for producing the best quality work. When I was prolific in my painting many years ago, I would use inexpensive spiral bound papers to practice a technique or tinker with a certain detail, then use the Arches paper for the final piece. (Arches can be a bit pricey especially for an art student).
Here is a random link I found regarding Arches:

http://www.cheapjoes.com/art-supplies/4830_arches-watercolor-paper.asp

In regards to brushes, be sure to use natural Sable hair brushes. Again, they are more costly, but they are a far cry better than synthetic brushes.

I noticed you have been part of the Forums for some time, so you are most likely aware of the Saint that lu(r)kes among the corridors of this guild. The saint is exceedingly knowledgeable in the world of art and is often cornered for his honest and informative critique.

Yes; but don’t broadcast that too loudly. There is a particular bloke from London that is extremely critical, or should I say wary of architects and the havoc they often wreak. See the “Architecture and You” thread.

Gilliatt

Mr Gilliatt, thanks very much for your appreciation and helpful notes! I, for one, unwittingly use a sketch pad and a synthetic brush for my works! A horrible crime, as I now realize. I'm going to try and look for these Arches paper and purchase stable brushes, if I can. :redface: Thanks again and

Yes; but don’t broadcast that too loudly. There is a particular bloke from London that is extremely critical, or should I say wary of architects and the havoc they often wreak. See the “Architecture and You” thread.

:nod: Noted.


Toni, yours are also excellent. I, too, love the Kafka one-I think the pink kind of makes his expressive eyes stand out.

Thank you, qimi!

[toni]

here is another one of Joey Eppard, an incredibly gifted independent music artist.
Done on watercolor pencils :nod:

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6443/1447179778l.jpg



On second thought, I may have posted this already :( .. I'm not sure..

[higley]

He looks like he's staring off into the majestic beyond. :) I like the style!

[DanielBenoit]

^What I was going to say.

I very much like the face, as well as the eyes. Very nice texture which is both clear and chalky.

You used watercolor pencils?

[toni]

Thanks very much, Higley and Daniel :redface:
Yes, watercolor pencils. basically, you use watercolor pencils how you'd use a normal pencil, then smudge everything with a wet brush once you're satisfied. :nod: They're more user-friendly than plain watercolor, but I'm sticking to the latter.

[Annamariah]

I drew this last night. I used a photograph of me and one of the babies my family has been taking care of as a model.

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=677&pictureid=4985

Once again the picture isn't very high-quality, as I still don't have a real camera, just my webcam.

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

Very nice Annamariah!
You say "drew". Please clarify; did you use colored pencils?
The baby and it's clothing appear to be graphite pencil while the image of you appears to be colored markers?

Thanks for sharing.
Gilliatt

[Annamariah]

Very nice Annamariah!
You say "drew". Please clarify; did you use colored pencils?
The baby and it's clothing appear to be graphite pencil while the image of you appears to be colored markers?

Thanks for sharing.
Gilliatt

I only used pencil, no colours. I know my cheek appears rosy and my hair looks like there's a little bit of brown there, but it's just the light and the camera doing tricks :D The original drawing is strictly black-and-white.

[Stargazer86]

wow we sure have a talented bunch here! I've been looking through and everyone's works are beautiful!
Toni- I love your John Lennon painting
Higley- The lion picture is so cute/fun and so well done!

[Maximilianus]

We have really gifted artists on Lit Net :nod:
It's a real blessing to have the eyes to contemplate what our fellow members are capable of :thumbs_up

[Annamariah]

I drew this one in the class today - it was such a boring lecture :D The story of this Elovena girl can be read on my profile, in the photo album called "My Art".

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=677&pictureid=5002

Once again I'm sorry for the picture quality, in the original drawing her face is not quite that vague...

[Maximilianus]

And yet another piece of beautiful art, out of a boring lecture in Finland ;)
I have to check that story :nod:

[toni]

Thanks, Stargazer and Max! (If you were referring to me :p)

AnnaMariah - Both of your drawings are beautiful. Perhaps you can try scanning them instead for better quality?

[Annamariah]

AnnaMariah - Both of your drawings are beautiful. Perhaps you can try scanning them instead for better quality?

Thank you :)

If only I had a scanner... Should I find myself in possession of some extra money, I think I'd go for a digital camera instead, I would have more use for one of those :nod:

[Maximilianus]

Thanks, Stargazer and Max! (If you were referring to me :p)
Yes, I was referring to you and to everybody's drawings on this page, which are the ones I've been able to contemplate with more detail. I still have to go to the previous pages and see what I find on them :nod:


Thank you :)

If only I had a scanner... Should I find myself in possession of some extra money, I think I'd go for a digital camera instead, I would have more use for one of those :nod:

Be patient, it all comes when we least expect it. By this time last year I didn't have an Internet connection at home, and now I do, and I'm a sovereign addict (though in a very healthy sense of the word :p)

[higley]

Quite pretty Annamariah! Definitely post more. :)

[toni]

Thank you :)

If only I had a scanner... Should I find myself in possession of some extra money, I think I'd go for a digital camera instead, I would have more use for one of those :nod:

You're welcome! We will be waiting..


Yes, I was referring to you and to everybody's drawings on this page, which are the ones I've been able to contemplate with more detail. I still have to go to the previous pages and see what I find on them :nod:

:nod:



http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8228/castpartay006.jpg
The Thespian on watercolor.
(working hard on brush techniques! :lol:)

[Maximilianus]

I see a beautiful combination of colours among the squares, toni. Well done, really :thumbs_up :)

[AdoreroDio]

Here are two picture I did for my AP art class- we were exploring form. Both are of the same subject- a pepper.

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=683&pictureid=5048

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=683&pictureid=5049

[DanielBenoit]

^So beautiful big thumbs up to you Adorero!'

As for you toni, you know what I think of your painting :p, but I must again reiterate, that it is your best work to date :D I love it!

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

You're welcome! We will be waiting..

:nod:

The Thespian on watercolor.
(working hard on brush techniques! :lol:)

Toni,
Looks like the makings of a an intersting concept and composition! Looks like you are getting a little bleeding of the grey into some of the squares. Be patient and let the background washes dry first. Another trick is to use a hair dryer on low setting to speed up the drying time.
Keep it up!
You are inspiring me to blow the dust off my brushes.



Here are two picture I did for my AP art class- we were exploring form. Both are of the same subject- a pepper.



Great work.
What medium is that? Pastel? and on what type of paper or board?

Gilliatt

[AdoreroDio]

Thanks :]

The first one is charcoal and the second oil pastel- both on pastel paper. :] I also have one in chalk pastel but I don't like it enough to put on here.

[toni]

I see a beautiful combination of colours among the squares, toni. Well done, really :thumbs_up :)

Many thanks, Max. I really appreciate it. :wave:


Toni,
Looks like the makings of a an intersting concept and composition! Looks like you are getting a little bleeding of the grey into some of the squares. Be patient and let the background washes dry first. Another trick is to use a hair dryer on low setting to speed up the drying time.
Keep it up!
You are inspiring me to blow the dust off my brushes.

Gilliatt

Oh yes, I was cursing to myself as the grey bled on the squares and wondered what I could have done. :( But this cleared it up, thanks very much! I'll take your advice to heart.
And please, do-pick up your brushes again, maestro. ;)



As for you toni, you know what I think of your painting :p, but I must again reiterate, that it is your best work to date :D I love it!

Merci, monsieur Benoit.

AdoreroDio- Your art teacher must be extremely proud of you for creating a masterpiece. ;) I find it rather difficult to work using oil pastels but your work is an inspiration.

[stephofthenight]

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z72/stephofthenight/069-Copy.jpg
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z72/stephofthenight/077.jpg
My best attempts...Can't paint though/... I can do some basic simple drawings

[toni]

And these are great drawings, stephofthenight! The details in your first drawing was intricately done and I love the gothic feel of the second one. :)

[stephofthenight]

thanks :D I'm glad you like it
steph

[Maximilianus]

Many thanks, Max. I really appreciate it. :wave:
Welcome a lot toni :wave:

steph, those Gothic drawings are a must. You have a really accurate hand for symmetry. Who's Andy, a brother maybe? :)

[Aoife]

Unimpressive.

bar 'chava'

[Maximilianus]

* bump *

I wonder if only drawings/paintings can participate on this thread. Specifically, would this thread be suitable for posting retouched images, animated pictures or any other computer-generated art, or should there be another thread for that? Is there a thread already, for computer art, that anyone knows of?

[Janine]

* bump *

I wonder if only drawings/paintings can participate on this thread. Specifically, would this thread be suitable for posting retouched images, animated pictures or any other computer-generated art, or should there be another thread for that? Is there a thread already, for computer art, that anyone knows of?

Why don't you start one, Max? I think it might prove interesting; good idea. It could involve artistic or experimental photos, as well or even animations they post on Youtube or other sites. I would like to see what people come up with. I have something I produced quickly a few years back on my old Photo Deluxe program, of a sunset and page curl with flowers. If you start it I will post it; although mind you, I was just playing around with the program to see what it would do; so it's nothing that great...but it's kind of neat, I think.

[stephofthenight]

steph, those Gothic drawings are a must. You have a really accurate hand for symmetry. Who's Andy, a brother maybe? :)

I have no brothers, except ryan who i was raised with. but no I should have covered that up, but didnt think about it.

[Maximilianus]

Why don't you start one, Max? I think it might prove interesting; good idea. It could involve artistic or experimental photos, as well or even animations they post on Youtube or other sites. I would like to see what people come up with. I have something I produced quickly a few years back on my old Photo Deluxe program, of a sunset and page curl with flowers. If you start it I will post it; although mind you, I was just playing around with the program to see what it would do; so it's nothing that great...but it's kind of neat, I think.
Okay, I'll be thinking about a catchy thread title. I just hope it hasn't been done already.


I have no brothers, except ryan who i was raised with. but no I should have covered that up, but didnt think about it.
Sorry if my comment upset you, dear. I didn't mean to meddle :redface:

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

* bump *

I wonder if only drawings/paintings can participate on this thread. Specifically, would this thread be suitable for posting retouched images, animated pictures or any other computer-generated art, or should there be another thread for that? Is there a thread already, for computer art, that anyone knows of?

Max,

I don't believe it really matters what form of "art" is presented here. In fact, I believe Higley (I hope that's right) had some computer generated pieces submitted a few pages back, but that is entirely up to you. Either way, we would love to see your handy work!

In the meantime, here is a little humorous piece I scratched up for my Thanksgiving thread:

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae114/tabuka1/Thanksgiving600dpi.jpg

Gilliatt

[Nyu001]

That is a great piece! Love how you inverted things, haha.

[Maximilianus]

Wonderful sketch Gilliat, thanks for your reply!

I've always wondered how life would be if it were the opposite to what it is :rolleyes:

[skib]

That is in fact a wonderful sketch, Gilliatt! All the more pleasing thanks to my recent infatuation with Wild Turkey . . .

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

That is a great piece! Love how you inverted things, haha.


Wonderful sketch Gilliat, thanks for your reply!

I've always wondered how life would be if it were the opposite to what it is :rolleyes:


That is in fact a wonderful sketch, Gilliatt! All the more pleasing thanks to my recent infatuation with Wild Turkey . . .

Thanks all !.
I'm happy you enjoyed it. Who know's maybe there will be a little surprise for Christmas.
It has been too long since I had last drawn or painted. This Forum has given me a shot of inspiration to get the rust out.

[Janine]

Gilliatt, this is very good and quite clever/humorous....a bit of "Animal Farm" here (?)...I like the way the turkeys are eating the drumsticks (human legs)....very well executed and loads of fun. Is the dog eating the arm?

It's good to see this forum has inspired you. I wish something would light a fire under me and get me drawing again. I really miss it. Keep up the good work and keep drawing. You are really good.

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

Gilliatt, ...a bit of "Animal Farm" here (?)...I like the way the turkeys are eating the drumsticks (human legs).... Is the dog eating the arm?

It's good to see this forum has inspired you. I wish something would light a fire under me and get me drawing again. I really miss it...

Thank you so much Janine.
You got it, “Drumsticks” and “Wings” (the arm)
Disclaimer: I would never actually give a pet fowl bones due to potential for choking.

A spontaneous hankering for anthropomorphism mixed with a dash of sad tire, a pinch of Orwell’s “Animal Farm” and a passing mental image of C.M. Coolidge’s series of “Dogs Playing Poker”, each played a part in developing the concept.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogs_Playing_Poker

The rest just bubbled up from the depths of my disturbed synapses. I had to chuckle after realizing the leg on the platter is a combination left leg with a right foot and ankle. The American Gothics look like a pair of vultures and the excessive length of the Turkey’s snoods would indicate that these birds are quite old, but I’ll defer to the master, Roger Tory Peterson, for the accuracy of such details.

Thanks again and please find that inspiration!

[JuniperWoolf]

:lol: Are those turkeys drinking wild turkey? That's just great.

[lalalauren]

So it hit me the other day that I really really want to learn how to paint. I really like watercolor painting and would love to learn how to do that but I have zero artistic experience and don't know if I can just jump right into it. Where's a good place to start? Do I need to learn to draw first before I learn how to paint?

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

lalalauren,

First to answer your question; there are several members who are quite talented with the brush, drawing, sketching, sculpting, etc. There is one member here who makes "art" their life passion, though I'm not sure that he specializes in watercolor. There are at least three people I can think of, who are talented in watercolor.
They may not appreciate me dropping their names willy nilly, but you may find them in the "Let Out the Artist in you" thread. Buried several pages down by now under 'General Chat" (I believe) you can do a search.

I have dabbled in watercolor myself and would be happy to offer you some tips, though I am a bit rusty.

Gilliatt

[loe]

In my opinion it doesn't really matter what medium you choose for painting, drawing, etc. (although oil might be a little bit more challenging to handle). The first and most important thing is practising, practising, practising... :)

Watercolours aren't really expensive, so you can just try it first, it's never too late to look up technical tips in the internet or read a book when you realize that you are in need of some help.

If you would like to paint anatomy or "realistic" objects it will be very helpful to learn drawing first, but when you just want to enjoy painting I don't think it's absolutely necessary.

I wish you a lot of fun! :)

Best regards

[lalalauren]

Thanks Loe! I have a feeling that I'll be having a lot of fun...I have an artistic side of me that's been dying to get out for a loooong time and now that I'm not in school I actually have the time to cultivate it. I'm pretty sure I'll fail at realistic objects since I have no formal training so I'm just going to try for abstract stuff/let whatever is in my head come out and see how it goes haha.


I have dabbled in watercolor myself and would be happy to offer you some tips, though I am a bit rusty.

Thanks! I'm sure I'll probably be posting back on this thread once I get started. Still have yet to go to the store and buy supplies...any recommendations for what I should get?

[stlukesguild]

I am a working artist... albeit not in watercolor. I am far more experienced in acrylic, oils, pastel, print, and drawing. Nevertheless, I do have more than a passing knowledge and exposure to watercolor including a few courses at art school. With this in mind, I would suggest that if you are inexperienced with most artistic media I'd be somewhat wary of watercolor. It is quite an unforgiving medium and contrary to what has been suggested, it is not inexpensive... unless you plan on using crappy grade school watercolors (the kind that come as dried cakes in a tray) and painting on crappy paper. Good paper is a necessity when painting in watercolor and good watercolor paper is VERY expensive. Good watercolors in tubes are probably not far less expensive than oil paints by the ounce. Watercolor, unlike oils or acrylics, tend to be approached in a more spontaneous manner that doesn't allow for mistakes and as such good watercolor paintings demand some real skills and a clear notion of what you are doing and where you are headed from the very start.

Having said that... I wouldn't wish to dissuade anyone truly interested. I will offer up a few suggestions, however. First of all drawing is the central skill to nearly any artistic medium. I would definitely start with some efforts in that direction. You might especially think of employing ink or watercolor washes in drawings as a way to get a feel for the fluid medium that watercolor is. I would also suggest that you check out a good book on watercolor techniques or painting with watercolors. Beyond that I would suggest you look at some exemplar watercolor works. You can probably find a good deal of examples of the watercolor paintings of J.M.W. Turner, John Singer Sargent, Winslow Homer, Paul Cezanne, Edward Hopper, Andrew Wyeth, and Emil Nolde online by Googling their names and the term "watercolor". I would also take a good look at the Chinese and Japanese painters.

[Perscors]

@stlukesguild-- I think you have some really good advice but since lalalalauren has "zero" artistic experience I really don't think she needs to buy top of the line products. I do quite a bit of watercolors that I am personally happy with on so called "crappy dried cakes." These were the same cakes that I used while painting in Russia with watercolorists that I thought were rather talented. A good artist can make much out of little. I personally find it important to be comfortable with sketching and drawing before attempting to paint but to each his own. It is rather cliche but practicing drawing still lifes to get comfortable with proportions and shadow ect can really take you a long way fast. Good luck and I hope this helps.

[stlukesguild]

A good artist can make much out of little.

True... but I've always subscribed to the belief in using the best materials you can afford. It gives you a feel for the proper professional grade media, you don't end up struggling or fighting the medium... and if you actually do achieve something of real merit you don't need to worry that it will crack, fade, or fall apart in a few years.

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

I will second all that StLukes stated above and provide some examples of supplies and manufacturers that I use:

Suggested paper:
Arches "Movlin a Papier l'Arches" a French made paper.
There are various weights, ,textures and comes in either hot or cold pressed.
You can purchase them in blocks of 20 sheets.
Due to the cost, I would suggest starting out with the 140lb 7" x 10" block.

Brushes:
I would highly recommend using natural Sable hair brushes.

Paint Brands:
Winsor & Newton, Grumbacher, Sennelier

As StLukes mentioned, developing a foundation in drawing/ sketching is important, plus you have the added benefit of graphite/ charcoal being much more forgiving.
While you develope drawing skills, there is no harm with jumpnig into basic "wash" excercises.
Well, I could go on and on, so first you must look into purchasing a book(s) on beginning watercolor techniques.

And by the way, StLukes is the dude I was referring to in my first post.

Gilliatt

[lalalauren]

Thank you all for the advice/suggestions/recommendations. I'm getting the feeling that I should maybe learn to draw/sketch before attempting watercoloring...but I really don't know where to start with that either. Is that something that could easily be learned out of a book or would I be better off trying to find a class/private lessons? Also, I'm worried that I won't be able to effectively learn how to draw as I've always been pretty terrible at it :/ Do you think it is a skill that can be learned or more of something that is a gift?

[loe]

I would suggest reading some basic stuff on anatomy, proportions, perspectives etc. (it depends on what you would like to learn to draw first) and then it's practising, practising, practising...
A natural talent might ease the progress, but without practising even a talent can't improve.
I made this experience myself (I'm not really talented myself but practising can help a lot, when I have the time for it).

Best regards

[Pierre k31]

Read first,... books on perspective, basic illustrating, pencil, charcoal and wash techniques. Take a night class if you can manage it.
I've been an illustrator all of my working life, now retired, but I still work for my son in the family graphics studio.
I'm a portrait illustrator and mural carver by trade, but worked more in the commecial end of things simply because it pays.
www.stmariegraphics.com

Even if dabbling in it or just playing with it is your intent, itwill be more rewarding if you gain a foothold in the basics.

P

[stlukesguild]

I would highly recommend using natural Sable hair brushes.


Oooh! Sable. You have to say that like Homer Simpson drooling over donuts. Unfortunately I am so abusive of my brushes... and I paint in oil and acrylic... I could never think to use sable unless I were to become fabulously wealthy. But yes... highly recommended for watercolors!

Thank you all for the advice/suggestions/recommendations. I'm getting the feeling that I should maybe learn to draw/sketch before attempting watercoloring...but I really don't know where to start with that either. Is that something that could easily be learned out of a book or would I be better off trying to find a class/private lessons? Also, I'm worried that I won't be able to effectively learn how to draw as I've always been pretty terrible at it :/ Do you think it is a skill that can be learned or more of something that is a gift?

I would suggest reading some basic stuff on anatomy, proportions, perspectives etc. (it depends on what you would like to learn to draw first) and then it's practising, practising, practising...
A natural talent might ease the progress, but without practising even a talent can't improve.
I made this experience myself (I'm not really talented myself but practising can help a lot, when I have the time for it).

Unless your intention is working figuratively (drawing painting the human figure) I would hold off on anatomy and life drawing. I personally believe that life drawing or figure drawing remains a central element of an artist's education for the very fact that it is so demanding and leads the artist to deal with form, shape, planes, values, textures... pretty much anything you will confront in drawing... and unlike drawing trees or apples figure drawing demands a degree of accuracy for the very fact that we as human beings are so accustomed to looking at other human beings that even those without training in art can inherently recognize flaws.

I would suggest that taking an inexpensive drawing course (or perhaps sitting in on local life drawing sessions where you can get feedback from other artists is the best way to learn. Also remember that you get out of such experiences what you put into them: ask a lot of questions... bring in independent work you've done on your own and ask for feedback. On your own I'd suggest starting with drawing simple still life objects... maybe with the assistance of a book. Draw such objects again and again and again. Draw them utilizing a variety of media. What you are doing is training your eye to look and training yourself the techniques by which you may convey what you see... you are learning about using line, planes, values, etc...

I would also suggest that of the greatest value is a design course (either in real life... or through a book). Design deals with the issues of composition. Just as a well-written work of literature has a structure, so does a painting. There are reasons that artists make the decision to employ certain colors... to place objects in a certain way upon the paper or canvas. Design teaches you to think about the underlying abstract structure of an image... even the most realistic.

[Kyriakos]

From time to time i create some 3d graphics for the game Civilization 3. :)

Here are some i am working on currently:

http://i29.tinypic.com/8wias0.png

If you draw, or create in 3d, you can post your works here :)

And these are some older works, a collection of Byzantine churches :)

http://i31.tinypic.com/n6dixi.png

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

Kyriakos,

I was just about to mention that your “do you draw” thread may not ne necessary given the “artist” thread.

Are you able to post the images a little larger?
Regardless, I am impressed both with your talent and the advancement of the 3D capabilities in the “gaming” software as it compares to architectural 3D CAD software for example.
In the architectural field, we have been using 3D modeling software for quite a few years now. Your 3D drawings are comparable to 3D CAD images.

I see variations on a theme, Byzantine perhaps? Hagia Sophia, “martyria”, etc.
Oops, never mind…I see you mentioned Byzantine

My son is active in “Civilization”, though he has not created buildings and certainly nothing to the level of your pieces.

Are you able to create interior “cut away” views? Perhaps re create some of the wonderful paintings and mosaic images.

Very nice.

Gilliatt

[Kyriakos]

Hi Gilliatt :) Glad you liked them.

These were made with Bryce 6, but i also work with 3dsmax, which is used by architects i believe. Bryce is just the simpler, easier program.

I do not model the interiors, since they would not be shown in the game, and i probably would not be able to create them or it would take too much work.

The Hagia Sophia has around 100.000 polygons i think, it is my most detailed and complicated building up to now, and i doubt i will create anything more complex that it. It was natural for me to make, along with the rest of the churches which are of Thessalonike, unlike some alien models which i cannot begin to understand the architecture, or i simply cannot create it.

The top graphics are for a fantasy set, but again they are mostly Byzantine :)

[Beautifull]

Really awesome pictures! I, myself am a learning artist, and just seeing these pictures inspire me :D

[Kyriakos]

:)

This is a screenshot of Civ3, with the buildings i have created for it, along with the city set:

http://i26.tinypic.com/335dvdy.png

[Maximilianus]

That's so good Kyriakos. You have a talent for grasping details, and for 3D art :nod:

[Kyriakos]

Thank you Maximilianus :)

3d art is my secondary art, or rather my hobby, since my profession (i like to think of it that way, although up to now i made few material gains through it) is literature creation. But in both i am mindfull of details. ;)

[Maximilianus]

Thank you Maximilianus :)

3d art is my secondary art, or rather my hobby, since my profession (i like to think of it that way, although up to now i made few material gains through it) is literature creation. But in both i am mindfull of details. ;)

That's so good. Material gains will eventually show up. You just keep up the mindfulness, as you seem to be walking on good steps :nod:

[Kyriakos]

:)

Here is what i am currently working on, gfx-wise:

http://i28.tinypic.com/9qe3ux.png

The first row, which still only has half the buildings, is part of an african set. The second row is the completed Norwegian set, and then there is the Byzantine one, which i have already posted before.

[Maximilianus]

That looks really so detailed, like so African and so Norwegian and so Byzantine :p I mean, it's like being amid the real thing :nod: Very well done :thumbsup:

[Nyu001]

:)

Here is what i am currently working on, gfx-wise:

http://i28.tinypic.com/9qe3ux.png

The first row, which still only has half the buildings, is part of an african set. The second row is the completed Norwegian set, and then there is the Byzantine one, which i have already posted before.

Yay! Pixel Art! \m/

[Beautifull]

Kyriakos, I am jealous! It's so good! :D

[Kyriakos]

Thank you all :)

Actually it is not pixel art ;) It is 3d art, all of these are 3d models i made with Bryce 6.

Here are the complete versions:

http://i29.tinypic.com/cq1ye.png

[Beautifull]

Thank you all :)

Actually it is not pixel art ;) It is 3d art, all of these are 3d models i made with Bryce 6.

Here are the complete versions:

http://i29.tinypic.com/cq1ye.png

I like the first one in the third column. but all of the are superb!

[Kyriakos]

Thank you :)

Then i guess you will like this french set too, it is a bit more evil-looking:

http://i29.tinypic.com/21jyazb.png

Sorry for flooding the thread :D

[Beautifull]

Thank you :)
Welcome! :p


Then i guess you will like this french set too, it is a bit more evil-looking:

http://i29.tinypic.com/21jyazb.png
I do! It looks so cool. do they take a long time?



Sorry for flooding the thread :D

well...*looks around* doesn't seem like anyone else is putting up their work right now. :D Don't worry. This was created to put up as much art as desired. ;)

[Kyriakos]

I already had created most of these a few months ago. I enlarged the models and applied some different textures and added bits and pieces here and there to refine them. All in all the original modelling took 1-2 hours for the larger, more detailed models, and the rest took a few minutes.

But i have been using 3d programs for 3 years, in the start there was no way i could make something like this. But once you get to know the program things become easy and you learn more tricks as you go :)

And since i can post more without worry, here is a preview of series to come, the last row is an alternative Byzantine set (which is better than the old one i think) ;)

http://i32.tinypic.com/2vd038l.png

[Beautifull]

Wow! They all look fantastic! So much detail!

[Kyriakos]

Glad you liked them :)
The last row buildings are all modelled after existant ones, the two first in Thessalonike, the last in Constantinople (but it has been destroyed now)

[Beautifull]

Glad you liked them :)
The last row buildings are all modelled after existant ones, the two first in Thessalonike, the last in Constantinople (but it has been destroyed now)

Oh then yo have an eye for recreating!

[AdoreroDio]

So lately I have really gotten into t shirt art... here is my most recent creation (done at like midnight).

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x12/adorerodio/T-Shirt%20Desigbs/fearnoevil.jpg

[Kyriakos]

Added an ancient Greek set :)

http://i25.tinypic.com/10x5zdg.png

[Beautifull]

To Kyriakos, I love greek, and especially love those buildings!
To Adorero, I really really do like that shirt! You made the design? I haven't seen that design before...

[Kyriakos]

Arabian set, missing the keep :)

http://i30.tinypic.com/zvyjc6.png

[AdoreroDio]

Yes :] I did design it. Thank you :]

[Maximilianus]

To both Kyriakos and Adorero:

http://smiles.kolobok.us/standart/victory.gif Wonderful!!! http://smiles.kolobok.us/standart/yes2.gif

[Beautifull]

Yes :] I did design it. Thank you :]

love it love it love it! When it is created, I want a shirt! :p

[Kyriakos]

:)

I finished this Babylonian set:

http://i28.tinypic.com/20ha9s5.png

[Beautifull]

In the last column, the last three are my fav's. Excellent job, K!

[Kyriakos]

Thank you :D

[Kyriakos]

Chinese architecture is alien to me, but i tried to make a set:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9606/chienesepreview.png

[Dwriter]

A budding artist, huh? But those works seem like a work of an experienced artist. Love especially the first one! The thread also is full of awe-inspiring posts with creative works. Mine is more on words. But I love illustrations, too. Been dreaming since a kid of creating my own comics with awesome artistic drawings them. But my drawing skill is not that good yet. That's why I am now thinking of collaborating with a good artist, who also like to work with a poor writer like me. :hat:

<a href="http://www.welive2care.com/">here</a>

[Kyriakos]

I cannot draw at all either, these are all made with a 3d modeller :)

[Beautifull]

K, I think you did an awesome job with the chinese buildings!!!

It may be blurry, but this is one of my drawings.
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae214/Kyeire/evilsword.jpg

Drawn with pencil

[Kyriakos]

Very nice :)

Did you make the background in the computer, or painted it? I really like the aquatic colour.

Here is a windmill:

http://i33.tinypic.com/n387r6.png

[Kyriakos]

And half of an egyptian set:

http://i36.tinypic.com/2ujhzio.png

[Beautifull]

Very nice :)

Did you make the background in the computer, or painted it? I really like the aquatic colour.


Eh? Oh, no...that's just probably my horrible webcam's fault.

and I like the pyramid...very white. ;P

[Beautifull]

Here is another sword, supposed to be the other's opposite.
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae214/Kyeire/goodsword.jpg

And here is them together. Can you tell which is supposed to be the evil sword?
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae214/Kyeire/good-evil.jpg

[Kyriakos]

I suppose the one with the bat/dragon/demon wings is the evil one.

[Beautifull]

I suppose the one with the bat/dragon/demon wings is the evil one.

Yeah. Surprisingly, I had fun drawing the evil one. :P

[Kyriakos]

I have fun writing some horror stories too, so i don't see this as anything alarming ;)

Anyway, the egyptian set is finished. This is how it looks in the game, Civilization 3:

http://i35.tinypic.com/2qdd06u.png

[Beautifull]

I have fun writing some horror stories too, so i don't see this as anything alarming ;)

Anyway, the egyptian set is finished. This is how it looks in the game, Civilization 3:

http://i35.tinypic.com/2qdd06u.png

Hey, it looks cool all lined up like that! Very good job, K! :nod:

[Kyriakos]

Thank you B :)

[Lokasenna]

I was sorting through my photobucket account the other day, and came across a load of digital artwork I made back when I was a teenager, and thought I'd post them up. They are all made exclusively with Photoshop - there were no original pictures or anything, just me messing about with tools.

Surreal Waters
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/Naeblis1963/Surrealwater.jpg

Spilt Mercury
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/Naeblis1963/SpiltMercury.jpg

Plasma
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/Naeblis1963/Plasma.jpg

Ice Wall
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/Naeblis1963/IceWall.jpg

Ice
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/Naeblis1963/Ice.jpg

Gate
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/Naeblis1963/Gate.jpg

Supernova
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/Naeblis1963/Galacticlightshow.jpg

Electric Liquid
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/Naeblis1963/ElectricLiquid.jpg

That last one I also adapted to use as a signature for a forum I used to frequent, under the name of Nae'blis:

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i48/Naeblis1963/electro-goethe.jpg

[Maximilianus]

@ Beautifull: I will need to borrow your swords for a while... I have a monster incoming :p
@ Kyriakos: very nice Egyptian set :thumbsup:
@ Lokasenna: wow, wow and wow! :p Surrealistic, yet so real. What do the German lines mean?

[Beautifull]

Whow Lokasenna! I Don't know which is my favorite! I like the ice one, but then, I see another, and I can't choose...good job!

@ Beautifull: I will need to borrow your swords for a while... I have a monster incoming :p
?

lol. Monster? Where?

[Kyriakos]

:)

Next it is the mongol set:

http://i33.tinypic.com/1055yye.png

[Beautifull]

Oh, I like those even more, K! Is that a thatched hut? It looks so cool!

[Kyriakos]

Thank you :)

It is a yurt:

http://www.karakalpak.com/images/yurtkazakharal.jpg

[Maximilianus]

Whow Lokasenna! I Don't know which is my favorite! I like the ice one, but then, I see another, and I can't choose...good job!

I'm thinking very insistently about that surrealistic gate. It's like one of those stargates that transport you to a parallel universe :D


lol. Monster? Where?
Where Not! I can see them in the coffee, I can see them in the soup, I see them everywhere!!! :lol:

[Kyriakos]

I added a Stupa...

Mongolian architecture is too weird, but i hope this looks a bit like the real thing :)

http://i37.tinypic.com/30vltkz.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/GoldenStupaErdeneZuuMonastery.JPG/300px-GoldenStupaErdeneZuuMonastery.JPG

[Lokasenna]

@ Lokasenna: wow, wow and wow! :p Surrealistic, yet so real. What do the German lines mean?

Glad you like them! The German is from Goethe's Künstlers Morgenlied, and roughly translates (in my very broken German) to: "This temple is built to all you high Muses, but here in my heart is the most holy thing." I've always loved the sentiment, and always found German to be such a beautiful language!

[Beautifull]

I like the yurt, and the Stupa, K. They look really neat. And it looks like the pics!


Where Not! I can see them in the coffee, I can see them in the soup, I see them everywhere!!! :lol:

:lol: Uh oh. Are you okay? :p

[Maximilianus]

Glad you like them! The German is from Goethe's Künstlers Morgenlied, and roughly translates (in my very broken German) to: "This temple is built to all you high Muses, but here in my heart is the most holy thing." I've always loved the sentiment, and always found German to be such a beautiful language!
Such a great phrase. I like German too. Thanks for the translation!


:lol: Uh oh. Are you okay? :p
Not since the last time I checked :banghead: :out: :goof: :p

[Beautifull]

Not since the last time I checked :banghead: :out: :goof: :p

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Kyriakos]

:D

Next is an orc set.

http://i38.tinypic.com/begges.png

[Beautifull]

Oh Oh! It looks so evil! Mwa ha ha ha! :lol: I like it...so I am wondering why when it comes to art, I like the evil side... :p

Once again, Good Job K!

[Kyriakos]

Thanks B :)

What do you think of this orc hut? Is it too simple/ lacks character, or will it work?

http://i36.tinypic.com/sngfep.png

Edit: i now added a fort ;)

[Kyriakos]

And now the set has been finished :D

Moving on to a Mughal one.

http://i37.tinypic.com/2rgfl0z.png

[Beautifull]

I absolutley love your orc set! And the hut is awesome! The Munghal looks cool too!

[Kyriakos]

Thanks again B :)

I changed the colours a bit in the Mughal:

http://i38.tinypic.com/fcjhp4.png

[Beautifull]

I like both the colors. Are you going to use both the red and blue, or just the blue one?

[Kyriakos]

Probably just the blue. I think i will model the Taj Mahal for the metropolis :)

[Beautifull]

Oh! Oh! I LOVE the Taj Mahal!!!!!!! Can't wait to see!

[Kyriakos]

Do you like this Taj Mahal?

http://i35.tinypic.com/1qqyx3.png

[Beautifull]

Yeah, it's okay...where's the towers?

[Kyriakos]

I considered adding them, but then the Taj itself would be a lot smaller, and the details wouldnt be shown :) The towers are quite distant from it, and i want to keep the buildings at a similar size.

[Beautifull]

I considered adding them, but then the Taj itself would be a lot smaller, and the details wouldnt be shown :) The towers are quite distant from it, and i want to keep the buildings at a similar size.

Ah. Makes sense. The Taj is still awesome without it's towers, I guess.

[farnoosh]

i don't know if i'm good or not at sketching but sometimes i just feel something or see something that inspires me inside that i just jump up and get a pencil and a sheet of paper,try to put whats in my head on the paper sometimes i fail but sometimes it makes me feel good so what do you think about this one?? it's a rose ,can you see it?

[Maximilianus]

i don't know if i'm good or not at sketching but sometimes i just feel something or see something that inspires me inside that i just jump up and get a pencil and a sheet of paper,try to put whats in my head on the paper sometimes i fail but sometimes it makes me feel good so what do you think about this one?? it's a rose ,can you see it?
You don't seem to have failed at all this time :) A polygonal rose, mixed with a few curves as well... very original and artistic. That's what I could see... though I may be wrong, since I've been seeing strange things for a while now :p but I can see the rose :nod:

[Kyriakos]

:)

The finished Mughal set:

http://i33.tinypic.com/2emh5ky.png

[farnoosh]

i am thriiiiiilled so let me post some more....

[Maximilianus]

Well, well, well, we're having an outburst of creativity, one in 3d and the other in sketch form :) :thumbsup:

[Beautifull]

@farnoosh: very very creative! I like your heaven/hell sketch.

@ K: I think the best one is the Taj. lol. Good job. Yet another good looking set.

[farnoosh]

@ beautifull: thanx ,i always thought of life in that way when i was a child.
@Maximilianus: thanx for the compliment!!
how about this one? i felt like creating a fairy tale like beauty and the beast or cinderella,etc.what do you thin ? did i get it right?

[Maximilianus]

@Maximilianus: thanx for the compliment!!
Welcome! :thumbsup:


how about this one? i felt like creating a fairy tale like beauty and the beast or cinderella,etc.what do you thin ? did i get it right?
Your strokes have a really appealing symmetry. You seem to know how to move your fingers when you grab a pencil :thumbsup: :)

[stlukesguild]

I haven't posted here in a while... but thought I'd offer up a link to my latest artistic endeavor over on my LitNet blog:

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/blog.php?b=10852

[Kyriakos]

Very interesting work Stlukesguild :) I would like to see more.

This is the start of a cyclades (group of greek islands) set:

http://i36.tinypic.com/2dhtkcl.png

[Beautifull]

K, that one looks fun to live in! :lol: yet again, good job!
@farnoosh: I like that one too. I just feel like staring at it for a long time.
@Stlukesguild: very intersting. is that like a eve-ish kind of thing?

[stlukesguild]

Initially I thought against posting my latest work here... but why not?

Already I am back with my latest artistic effort... after having spent nearly two months on my prior painting. :skep: This painting came together more rapidly than any I have worked on for quite some time. Two weeks total from start to finish: not bad for a painting that measures 80x44"... especially when one considers the unbearable heat and humidity in my studio as of recent.

I had initially intended a clothed figure... something perhaps based upon the theme of Isabella and the Pot of Basil (Boccaccio and Keats) but all of the preliminary drawings in this direction were lame at best. After several days of frustration I decided simply to return to a theme I was somewhat comfortable with... a single nude... perhaps "Eve" I thought... with a potted plant and an apple. I reasoned with myself that once the work got under way, I could then make certain formal decisions... pushing myself in terms of color or of abstract design... or some other aspect so that the work wouldn't just be more of the "same old same old".

At some point during the drawing stage, I happened to grab one of my books on Michelangelo off the shelf... a detailed look at the Last Judgment to be exact. One thing I have marveled at is just how the greatest masters always surprise you and inspire you... no matter how well you think you may know them. I was simply blown away by the manner in which Michelangelo's figures twist and turn in space... thrusting toward the viewer or rushing away. There was nothing quite like this before Michelangelo... a little quite like this after.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/4892191573_f5fd296dd9_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4135/4892789432_9472188833.jpg

Looking around at the accumulated body of my work I recognized that in almost all of the instances there was very little or no complex twisting or torquing of the figures... and almost all of the the figures stood or sat parallel to the picture plane. In part this was intentional... as I have been really building off earlier traditions: Byzantine, Persian, Medieval, and Early Renaissance... as well as Indian, Japanese, Arabic, and other Non-Western art. I decided, nevertheless, that I would add... that I "needed" a second figure... and one which displayed a greater complexity of gesture and form. I intended this second figure to be "Eve" while I would change the standing figure into a male "Adam".

I limited myself to the use of a warm, analogous color scheme intended to heighten the warmth and eroticism of the subject. I employed warm reddish copper leaf as well as gold. I also made the conscious decision to avoid the use of black... which in most of my previous works in this series has been a key compositional element. Within a matter of days the background was done... and I was on to the figures. I probably spent more time on these two figures than on any previously. They are clearly stylized... owing much to not only the distortions of Michelangelo and Rubens... but also the Mannerists... who were so influential upon me in art school. There is also something of William Blake and the wide-eyed figures of George Tooker... but ultimately these influences have been digested and synthesized until they simply are how I draw. At a certain point the "temptation" theme moved away from the traditional "Adam and Eve" to two female figures... with whatever connotations that may inspire.:o

Anyway... here are the results:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/4892186619_bc9ccdbd9c_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4081/4892188831_13d800c481_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4892786648_4df341bd87_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4123/4892188229_4180054e28_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4892187011_8b28ab7b6b_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/4892189251_daf2745bfa_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4892785398_7ea631cb7f_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/4892187539_6e940e2f6b_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4140/4892187967_a6efdb0608_b.jpg

Again the materials used are pastel, acrylic paint, gold and copper leaf on paper, 80x44".

Thanks for looking!:wave:

Kyriakos... Beautiful... thanks for looking. Yes... it is something of an "Eve" thing.:blush5::crazy::smilewinkgrin:

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

Brilliant St. Lukes!
It is finished !
Looking back on your earlier work in progress posts, I still recall my initial thoughts upon first viewing your piece; Medieval, Coptic, etc. I saw and still see a blend of the hieratical flatness of medieval to early renaissance ( ? Check that) art and the transition to the discovery of perspective or the third dimension as seen in the nudes themselves.

Overall the layering of gilded, tiled panels as a backdrop with the “Eves” superimposed, somehow brought to mind the early church altar piece:

(scroll about a third of the way down and you will see some wonderful examples of what I am referring to)
http://www.sacredarchitecture.org/articles/retro_tablum_the_origins_and_role_of_the_altarpiec e_in_the_liturgy/

As hot as it’s been, I’m surprised the gold didn’t run down the canvas!


Gilliatt

[stlukesguild]

What is especially bad with regard to the gold leaf and the heat is that the leaf is so incredibly thin... far thinner than tissue paper... that the slightest air circulation can send it spiraling across the space. There's a scene from a recent film on Gustav Klimt in which his lover storms out of his studio, slamming the door, and sends pieces of gold leaf flying into the air like a golden blizzard.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/4896211163_b40c8920b9.jpg

What this means... obviously... is that during the process of adhering the gold leaf, all fans must be shut off. Not a fun moment during the process. :nonod:

Of course the links with the altarpieces and icons are intentional. I think the initial inspiration was that of the Indian sculpture on the Kandariya Mahadeva Temple...

(Note: Some of the sculptural images may be considered graphic)

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Kandariya%20Mahadeva%20Temple&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1280&bih=809

Of course the West has its erotic art... but I was fascinated with how unabashed these sculptures were... especially considering their public display. But then I considered the spiritual/religious and erotic ecstasy... whether we are talking about the Biblical Song of Songs, the visions of St. Theresa of Avilla, Bernini's famous sculpture of St. Theresa in which her moment of ecstasy is imagined as orgasmic...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/4896847642_9760fb61f6_z.jpg

on through the works of Gustav Klimt and later artists. Intriguingly, such altarpieces as you linked to were not free from the link of eroticism or sensuality and spirituality. There were repeated iconoclastic uprisings throughout the Renaissance in which more prudish-minded clerics and church leaders sought to seriously curtail efforts in the visual arts... if not banish them altogether by citing the Commandment against "graven images". Various clerical figures made repeated claims about the licentious nature of the female saints and even the Virgin Mary as represented by leading artists. They felt that the visual beauty of these images distracted from sermons... especially those relating to sins of the flesh... and inspired the wrong sort of thoughts. Perhaps the most famous of these later iconoclastic uprisings was led by Savonarola...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girolamo_Savonarola

... whose famous Bonfire of the Vanities resulted in the burning of endless books, paintings, and other "luxuries" in Florence... prior to his excommunication and execution.

[Kyriakos]

The Cycladic set has been completed :)

http://i36.tinypic.com/2db0zfc.png

[Gilliatt Gurgle]

What is especially bad with regard to the gold leaf and the heat is that the leaf is so incredibly thin... far thinner than tissue paper...

...during the process of adhering the gold leaf, all fans must be shut off...

I'm not familiar with the gold leaf process. When you say "adhere" is it actually glued? for example spray adhesive? or is it layed in place and then gently heated to "shrink fit"?

Of course the links with the altarpieces and icons are intentional. I think the initial inspiration was that of the Indian sculpture on the Kandariya Mahadeva Temple...

(Note: Some of the sculptural images may be considered graphic)

Of course the West has its erotic art... but I was fascinated with how unabashed these sculptures were... especially considering their public display.

Hmm... I see your point. There is one panel that is quite popular among photographers!

So...what is the next project?


Gilliatt

[stlukesguild]

The process of attaching gold leaf involves first priming the area where the gold is to be applied with an under-painting coat. Traditionally this involved a reddish clay, but I utilize a very matte terra-cotta acrylic paint. Once the under-painting has dried, I apply a thin layer of adhesive. The adhesive looks like watered-down Elmer's Glue, but dries clear and slightly tacky. The leaf... which comes in a small booklet of 4x4" squares is simply applied to the tacky surface and gently brushed so that it adheres. By brushing a little more vigorously the excess leaf will fall away wherever there is no adhesive. Edges can be cleaned up with a stylus or even an X-acto blade. The gold can be burnished making it glow further... or it can be applied in several layers making for subtle variations. It can also be sanded with very fine sand paper allowing for the reddish ground to show through which gives the work a somewhat weathered or aged look. I employ this technique a good deal. True gold leaf is quite expensive considering the current gold market value... but gold-colored metal leaf which works in the same way is far less expensive.

I have several files that I continue to add reference photos to. I had thought of an image of the Goddess, Diana, as well as Pandora... but it seems the I am currently leaning toward a couple of nudes as Flora and Fauna with the notion of decking the pair out with a wealth of flowers and butterflies... and a sort of saccharine Rococo fantasy gone mad. At least that is my thinking at the moment.

[Beautifull]

The Cycladic set has been completed :)

http://i36.tinypic.com/2db0zfc.png

Oh dear..I cannot pick a favorite K! I love your cool talent. I envy you!

[Kyriakos]

Thanks again B :)

This is a pic of the greek set, along with an island house and some gun turrets i made:

http://i38.tinypic.com/5l7z9j.png

[Beautifull]

I love it. :nod:

[Kyriakos]

:D

I added a watchtower and three resources too, Gaslight, Cycladic house and Gallows :)

http://i34.tinypic.com/or8az6.png

[Beautifull]

Oh, I see some very familiar buildings :lol: And they seem very strategically placed. :p

[Kyriakos]

Yeah :)

Here is a ww1 aerodrome and a grain elevator too ;)

http://i37.tinypic.com/eip377.png

[Maximilianus]

Is that a Fokker D.II? :)

[Kyriakos]

I think it is an Albatross :)

[Beautifull]

I think it is an Albatross :)

I like the random albatross. :p

well, It is looking nice K, once again. :D

[Kyriakos]

:)

This is a Japanese Torii, a traditional gate:

http://i36.tinypic.com/2s01uzk.png

[Beautifull]

Oh, I love those gates! They were always cool looking to me! Good imitation! Looks just like it! :)

[Kyriakos]

Glad you liked it :)

Moving on to England, a victorian house and the tower of London:

http://i37.tinypic.com/211uu15.png

[Beautifull]

Haha. They're so cute. :P

[Beautifull]

Here's some of my own. :D

These are the first three I've used my laptop to draw. Hope you like them!

[Genocide]

Wow, those are really niiiice. I'd say my favourite is the middle one. The Mask. Beautifully done, Beautifull!

[Kyriakos]

Nice work :)

[Beautifull]

Thank you! You make me blush! Although you like them, I know I need to get better. But I appreciate you guys!:D

[Maximilianus]

Like I said before, I keep loving the lady coming out of the flower... it's much inspiring :nod:

[Beautifull]

Like I said before, I keep loving the lady coming out of the flower... it's much inspiring :nod:

Aw. Thank you! And to think that I don't think about what I'm drawing half the time. ;) Thank you again Max. :nod: