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    Perhaps some people just show it by their actions - they may love a significant other but will cheat on that person shamelessly. Or the person who believes that lust is a sport having nothing to do with emotions. Or perhaps the fact that the less a woman wears in this society the more attention she gets while a modest lady gets far less. We don't have to say it directly. It is often in a person's behavior. In fact I might say there is more compelling evidence in behavior than in language. No?

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    i'm pretty sure that the "pursuit of happiness" to the american colonists, did not translate literally as.. the pursuit of being happy.
    i study the american revolution and.. correct me if i'm wrong, but the term actually means that one has the right to protect their property from those who intrude on it, with any means available e.g firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximilianus View Post
    Only if every Finn guy is hopelessly blind, and even then, there are non-blind prospects around many corners of the planet. The only problem I spot in distance is to get close enough to get a hold on whom may have spotted us

    Love is realistic enough... though more elusive to be found and grabbed.
    They're not blind, maybe that's the problem. I look pretty hideous these days because of this damn skin. I'm literally falling apart, and it's not a pretty sight. All the rash and a super dry skin is a combination which makes me repulsive to anyone who sees me.

    Then there's the fact that I'm too different from other people of my own age - it scares them away. I'm interested in all the wrong things, I read too much, I know too much about many things and far too little about others. At the same time I'm really mentally middle-aged yet still naive and innocent, if that makes any sense

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximilianus View Post
    I am currently writing my autobiography, so far entitled "Max Willful Hooves, there and back again" , though I haven't thought about my nom de plume
    More than an autobiography, it will be an award-winning epic tale, in the line of Beowulf, the Kalevala, the Norse sagas and the Lord of the Rings itself. It will combine love and war, deception and hope, and the unremitting pursuit of justice and peace. It will be a story of trial by fire, brave knights seeking payback, damsels in distress and bad guys getting their punishment... Wow, wait, my life is not that exciting!! I'll be telling a fake

    However, I feel it's going to be a bestseller, so I will need someone to do the Finnish translation (I pursuit fame in Finland as well ). So... want to join my eclectic epic adventure? I guarantee its lifetime success and even a Nobel prize and we may even include a couple Peppi Long-stockings if you feel like
    Okay, when your book is a success in your part of the world I'll translate it and we'll try to make a deal with some Finnish publisher I trust Valkyries will be involved in this book?
    Little Lotte thought of everything and nothing. Her hair was golden as the sun's rays and her soul as clear and blue as her eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isidro View Post
    I adore your humble definitions. Exactly what I was looking for in trying to decide for myself. Best always to you, you romantic fella, you!
    Who? Me?

    Quote Originally Posted by Annamariah View Post
    Lust is temporary and selfish, love is something more permanent and selfless.


    Quote Originally Posted by Annamariah View Post
    The kind of love I'm looking for is that I'd be the first one to someone, the most important person in his life. I have a couple of friends, but all of them have more important people around them Having three siblings I can't even say I'd be at the top of my parents' list either
    This be the right time and place to say it, so hold on ...... Of all Finns I know, and we both know who they are, guess who I have at the top of my list! How's that, uh? Now you won't be able to anymore say you were never at the top of anyone's list

    Quote Originally Posted by isidro View Post
    There are those who claim that lust is more important than love. Any thoughts?
    We can fairly imagine the only thing they have in their thoughts, can't we? Poor people, I pity them

    Quote Originally Posted by Annamariah View Post
    I can't remember ever hearing anyone say that. But then again I don't go out much
    They say it in many different ways. They even use a set of several unspeakable metaphors, though very likely they don't even know what a metaphor is

    Quote Originally Posted by isidro View Post
    Perhaps some people just show it by their actions - they may love a significant other but will cheat on that person shamelessly. Or the person who believes that lust is a sport having nothing to do with emotions. Or perhaps the fact that the less a woman wears in this society the more attention she gets while a modest lady gets far less. We don't have to say it directly. It is often in a person's behavior. In fact I might say there is more compelling evidence in behavior than in language. No?
    This is utterly true
    Lust is practiced very much as a behavioral sport, more than a sport of language. However, I know many who practice the speaking of the aforementioned metaphors as an everyday routine, as though they had nothing else to talk about. Well, they just can't have a plot of their own, so we'd better don't ask that much from them, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Annamariah View Post
    They're not blind, maybe that's the problem. I look pretty hideous these days because of this damn skin. I'm literally falling apart, and it's not a pretty sight. All the rash and a super dry skin is a combination which makes me repulsive to anyone who sees me.
    Real repulsiveness runs skin-deep and, often, it cannot be seen until rather late, though it's always better late than never. Equally, beauty also runs skin-deep. I know really repulsive fellows, none of them has skin issues and even if they did, it's a condition unrelated to repulsiveness

    That being said, I can see you without fearing the repulsive feeling. However, I confess I feel a little repulsiveness against aliens... well... not exactly against them... It's their laser weapons and surgical experiments what I fear the most!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Annamariah View Post
    Then there's the fact that I'm too different from other people of my own age - it scares them away. I'm interested in all the wrong things, I read too much, I know too much about many things and far too little about others. At the same time I'm really mentally middle-aged yet still naive and innocent, if that makes any sense
    It's what happens with smart girls; they can read
    If it's good for something, when I was at school, no matter what level because it was always the same story, it was just me, with myself and I! I survived attacks of different kinds. Someone even tried to push me down the stairs because obviously I was so "repulsive" to them that they must have wanted me dead, so it hurt, but only until I became the powerful viking you now know

    Quote Originally Posted by Annamariah View Post
    Okay, when your book is a success in your part of the world I'll translate it and we'll try to make a deal with some Finnish publisher I trust Valkyries will be involved in this book?
    DEAL!!

    Valkyries always, be it thoughts or stories. They'll never be one too many. I just need their sole existence to be a happy viking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scheherazade View Post
    Happiness is, in my eyes, like a garden one keeps. If you don't work at it round the year, it is bound to go wild and lose its beauty.
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    I like wild gardens... I think they are the most beautiful. I don't WORK at happiness, it ebbs and flows of it's own accord, depending on what I'm doing with my life. It's up to ME to get my life to a stage where everything is in harmony and working together for my happiness, so that I don't have to anymore. You shouldn't have to work for it your entire life. Changes always need to be made and **** will always happen, but I think once you reach a certain point in your life, you should not be ACTIVELY working to obtain/maintain happiness anymore.

    I voted for love. True love, that is, not cheap. That's easily found and damaging.
    Naked except for a cigarette, you let your mind drift and forget your disbelief. Feel the chill down your back and the flutter of wings through dandelion fields, and forget the pull of gravity in a night without stars.

    I lack eloquence and commitment to my arguments. They are half baked, and I will begin passionately, and then abandon them.

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    I think our approaches are rather different, Becca

    I have found that when one stops working at one's own happiness, life quickly detoriates and stagnates. We are not one dimensional beings that once developed into a certain form to stay like that. We keep developing, changing and, dare I say, improving... So what might be enough to make us happy at a certain point in time may not do the trick at a different time. Hence, I believe, the need to keep working at our changing selves at a "happy" state. However, as I said, before, this is my take on it.

    Re. wild gardens... Even the wildest looking gardens need control to make sure that they are getting enough rain, sunshine and "food" from the soil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximilianus View Post
    This be the right time and place to say it, so hold on ...... Of all Finns I know, and we both know who they are, guess who I have at the top of my list! How's that, uh? Now you won't be able to anymore say you were never at the top of anyone's list
    Oh sure I'm on top of several list if we narrow down the number of people who'd fit the list. I know I'm my parents' favourite daughter, as I've got three brothers and no sisters But yeah, I'm proud to be your favourite Finn, even if there isn't much competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximilianus View Post
    They say it in many different ways. They even use a set of several unspeakable metaphors, though very likely they don't even know what a metaphor is

    (...)

    Lust is practiced very much as a behavioral sport, more than a sport of language. However, I know many who practice the speaking of the aforementioned metaphors as an everyday routine, as though they had nothing else to talk about.
    Oh in that sense, yes, but I've understood it more like the whole lust thing is just something to do while waiting for the true love (which may or may not come, so "why not have some fun while waiting"), but still I think they'd rate love higher than lust. I don't believe in that approach, thinking that love and lust are two separate things that don't have anything to do with each other and that lusting other people is okay and won't affect loving someone else, but obviously many people do.

    I don't think there are that many people who couldn't care less about love and think that lust is the most important thing in life, but of course I might be mistaken. I just tend to believe the best about people until I'm proven wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximilianus View Post
    Real repulsiveness runs skin-deep and, often, it cannot be seen until rather late, though it's always better late than never. Equally, beauty also runs skin-deep. I know really repulsive fellows, none of them has skin issues and even if they did, it's a condition unrelated to repulsiveness

    That being said, I can see you without fearing the repulsive feeling. However, I confess I feel a little repulsiveness against aliens... well... not exactly against them... It's their laser weapons and surgical experiments what I fear the most!!
    I hope I'm not that repulsive, but I often feel like I am. And hey, you can't really see me (Which is good. And most of the photos I've got are a couple of years old, from the time when I didn't look this bad.) I know real beauty lies beneath the surface, but with an ugly surface people are easily scared away before they can see the hidden beauty

    Let's hope the aliens have the good sense to stay far away from you!


    Quote Originally Posted by Maximilianus View Post
    If it's good for something, when I was at school, no matter what level because it was always the same story, it was just me, with myself and I! I survived attacks of different kinds. Someone even tried to push me down the stairs because obviously I was so "repulsive" to them that they must have wanted me dead, so it hurt, but only until I became the powerful viking you now know
    Outch. At least I never had to face violence (unless you count a well-aimed tennis ball targeted at my face and one metallic key-chain that I mostly managed to dodge), it was mostly verbal abuse and leaving me outside of things, like being the only kid in the class who didn't get an invitation to someone's birthday party. But I'm glad you managed to get through it all and still became such a nice person who's always trying to cheer other people up
    Little Lotte thought of everything and nothing. Her hair was golden as the sun's rays and her soul as clear and blue as her eyes.
    Gaston Leroux - The Phantom of the Opera

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    Wait, wait, wait- I changed what I want from life. All I want from my life is a zebra.
    See my note!
    Naked except for a cigarette, you let your mind drift and forget your disbelief. Feel the chill down your back and the flutter of wings through dandelion fields, and forget the pull of gravity in a night without stars.

    I lack eloquence and commitment to my arguments. They are half baked, and I will begin passionately, and then abandon them.

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    Everything on that list can fit into my pursuit of happiness.
    MSDGreen is here

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSDGreen View Post
    Everything on that list can fit into my pursuit of happiness.
    Very diplomatic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annamariah View Post
    Oh sure I'm on top of several list if we narrow down the number of people who'd fit the list. I know I'm my parents' favourite daughter, as I've got three brothers and no sisters But yeah, I'm proud to be your favourite Finn, even if there isn't much competition
    DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE YOURSELF. YOU DON'T DESERVE IT Besides I haven't said how much competition there is, have I?
    In my case I'm the favorite son at home... because I'm the only one though I'm so special that I feel I'd be a favorite no matter the amount and quality of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Annamariah View Post
    Oh in that sense, yes, but I've understood it more like the whole lust thing is just something to do while waiting for the true love (which may or may not come, so "why not have some fun while waiting"), but still I think they'd rate love higher than lust. I don't believe in that approach, thinking that love and lust are two separate things that don't have anything to do with each other and that lusting other people is okay and won't affect loving someone else, but obviously many people do.
    Completely agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by Annamariah View Post
    I don't think there are that many people who couldn't care less about love and think that lust is the most important thing in life, but of course I might be mistaken. I just tend to believe the best about people until I'm proven wrong
    I do the opposite. I expect the worse and if I happen to be wrong I get happy because I was wrong. That way I avoid deceptions, but that's just my way of life... I may be wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Annamariah View Post
    I hope I'm not that repulsive, but I often feel like I am. And hey, you can't really see me (Which is good. And most of the photos I've got are a couple of years old, from the time when I didn't look this bad.) I know real beauty lies beneath the surface, but with an ugly surface people are easily scared away before they can see the hidden beauty
    I cannot be scared. I'm an epic hero, remember? besides, you haven't seen me either and besides... I can see it all

    Quote Originally Posted by Annamariah View Post
    Let's hope the aliens have the good sense to stay far away from you!
    They'd better, or I will call my muses to protect me. Never did before, but I feel they'd come if I call them

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    Outch. At least I never had to face violence (unless you count a well-aimed tennis ball targeted at my face and one metallic key-chain that I mostly managed to dodge), it was mostly verbal abuse and leaving me outside of things, like being the only kid in the class who didn't get an invitation to someone's birthday party.
    I went through this too. Social rejection often assumes its most hideous forms, be it all of them together or one at a time

    Quote Originally Posted by Annamariah View Post
    But I'm glad you managed to get through it all and still became such a nice person who's always trying to cheer other people up
    You know where to find me whenever you need to be cheered up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximilianus View Post
    I do the opposite. I expect the worse and if I happen to be wrong I get happy because I was wrong. That way I avoid deceptions, but that's just my way of life... I may be wrong

    (...)

    You know where to find me whenever you need to be cheered up
    I can't help it, I'm so naive I always trust people, because I can't understand why someone would lie, as I'm honest myself. I know it's not always wise, but that's me.

    I know Thank you for that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annamariah View Post
    I can't help it, I'm so naive I always trust people, because I can't understand why someone would lie, as I'm honest myself. I know it's not always wise, but that's me.
    Okay, but be very careful

    Quote Originally Posted by Annamariah View Post
    I know Thank you for that
    Anytime

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    I am thoroughly enjoying the interplay between the two of you. By the way, how old are you guys? Just wondering.
    Dignity and majesty I have seen but once, as it stood in chains, at midnight, in a dungeon in an obscure village of Missouri. Parley P. Pratt

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    Love and all that it entails: to give it and to receive it, and as such, a husband, a family, good friends and a home with plenty of food to share.

    A job that makes a difference and wisdom and knowledge to pass down.

    And at the end of the day..a nice soul soothing peace.
    "So heaven meets earth like a sloppy wet kiss, and my heart turns violently inside of my chest, I don't have time to maintain these regrets, when I think about, the way....He loves us..."


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