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    define miracles

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    How has God helped

    Talking about religion doesn't have to start fights. The problem with different religions is that truth does exist. For example, Jesus either was the Messiah and God's Son or he was some kind of nut who was crucified because he THOUGHT he was the Messiah. Now, if two people have different ideas of who Jesus was, they can differ and still respect one another.
    The thing that bothers me is this, "Anything is truth if it feels right to the person."
    How has God helped me? He gives me purpose for life. My brother-in-law told me yesterday, "My reason for living is my children." What? How sad is that? His children are all grown up and really don't need him anymore!
    My reason for living is to glorify God. The real one.
    He helps me by making the Bible apply in my heart to my life and problems.

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    From God comes truth. God is the source of all spiritual and material worlds. And that source is within the heart of every living being. We come from that source, it is in our ignorance that we seek it outside ourselves. Enlightenment is knowing that oneself is and always is, within God.

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    My vision of what God is changes as I get older, but all i know is the feeling i get when I listen to music. That feeling of complete and utter joy. That's what God is to me. Cause music is not of this world and is too amazing to really define. What is it that causes your heart to flutter when a chord is played in just the right way? I don't know what it is, but it's supernatural.
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    just because music is life affirming doesnt make it supernatural or not of this world. how did you come to that supernatural conclusion of yours?

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    I think the question should be rephrased: How did accepting God's presence help you in your life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by billyjack View Post
    just because music is life affirming doesnt make it supernatural or not of this world. how did you come to that supernatural conclusion of yours?
    i simply have a different opinion than you. I never said god existed, but I'm talking about in my own life, the only thing that could be close to a supernatural experience are the outerworldly experiences I have when I listen to music. So if God exists, then that'd be where you find him. Cause i believe the initial question posed in this thread was asking for responses involving subjective experiences? Give your experience and your opinion, but do not judge mine, please.

    EDIT: And if you do not believe in any god of any sort or think it's all hogwash then write "I do not believe in god, and therefore god has not helped me in any way whatsoever". That's a good way to stay on topic. I don't think this thread was created with the intent on becoming debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billyjack View Post
    define miracles
    Miracles, for me, are those which I think are impossible but becomes possible.
    Vanitas vanitatum, dixit Ecclesiastes, vanitas vanitatum, et omnia vanitas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathor View Post
    i simply have a different opinion than you. I never said god existed, but I'm talking about in my own life, the only thing that could be close to a supernatural experience are the outerworldly experiences I have when I listen to music. So if God exists, then that'd be where you find him. Cause i believe the initial question posed in this thread was asking for responses involving subjective experiences? Give your experience and your opinion, but do not judge mine, please.

    EDIT: And if you do not believe in any god of any sort or think it's all hogwash then write "I do not believe in god, and therefore god has not helped me in any way whatsoever". That's a good way to stay on topic. I don't think this thread was created with the intent on becoming debate.
    ya know JRR tolkein's "The Silmarinion" (spelling probably wrong) speaks of music as the driving force that created middle earth.

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    Believe me, God has helped me in times where I thought there was no solution.

    With man it is impossible, but with God, all things are possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyjack View Post
    ya know JRR tolkein's "The Silmarinion" (spelling probably wrong) speaks of music as the driving force that created middle earth.
    I believe you are referring to the "The Music of The Ainur" from The Silmarillion, in which Illuvatar or Tolkien's "God", spoke to the Ainur through music and they created the world that way. And I don't know if you were trying to compare the idiocy of this concept to the idiocy of any religion? Maybe.

    However, I don't really see how this has any place in this thread unless you actually believe that. Because the thread was asking the readers to provide subjective experiences in their own lives. This particular thread was not meant to be a source of debate, and if you would like to debate on these issues you should start a thread about it and I and others would be happy to debate it with you there. Try to stay on topic.
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    i was simply saying that music has an enigmatic power, even a creative power--but music as a supernatural thing only exist in works of fiction

    every thread is open for debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathor View Post
    EDIT: And if you do not believe in any god of any sort or think it's all hogwash then write "I do not believe in god, and therefore god has not helped me in any way whatsoever". That's a good way to stay on topic. I don't think this thread was created with the intent on becoming debate.
    Debate isn't bad. I thought we were all supposed to be exchanging ideas here to get our brains going. Like the thread rules say, just no disparaging others' beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalmoonshin View Post
    Miracles, for me, are those which I think are impossible but becomes possible.
    Sorry to nitpick, but if it is impossible, yet becomes possible because of God, isn't god making the impossible a possibility, therefore the impossible is actually possible, as it happened, and therefore in order to happen, it needed the possibility of being possible, also known as it being possible.

    In other words, the impossible, if it actually happens, isn't really impossible is it, it is merely uncommon, or never done before.

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    What you've said had crossed my mind, too. Sorry, but I didn't know how to put my thoughts into words. ^.^'

    What I've been trying to say is that with God, anything is possible. By miracles, I mean to say God's intervention in human affairs to overcome the limits of what humans can do. Or something like that.
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