No, I didn't forget to post it. What actually happened is that it got combined with Nossa's post at the top. If you look at the bottom of that post you'll see my response to it. Nossa's post somehow took over mine.
No, I didn't forget to post it. What actually happened is that it got combined with Nossa's post at the top. If you look at the bottom of that post you'll see my response to it. Nossa's post somehow took over mine.
"Par instants je suis le Pauvre Navire
[...] Par instants je meurs la mort du Pecheur
[...] O mais! par instants"
--"Birds in the Night" by Paul Verlaine (1844-1896). Join the discussion here: http://www.online-literature.com/for...5&goto=newpost
Yikes, now the women are taking over the men!? very strange....
Quark,I just looked at it and you are right - Nossa would not be quoting herself...oops something went wrong.
Last edited by Janine; 08-28-2008 at 05:59 PM.
"It's so mysterious, the land of tears."
Chapter 7, The Little Prince ~ Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Originally Posted by Janine
Just like in the short story.
LET THERE BE LIGHT
"Love follows knowledge." – St. Catherine of Siena
My literature blog: http://ashesfromburntroses.blogspot.com/
Chapter 7, The Little Prince ~ Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Okay...this is just weird! I didn't quote myself, that's for sure (I love myself but not that much
I'm the patron saint of the denial,
With an angel face and a taste for suicidal.
Okay...this is just weird! I didn't quote myself, that's for sure (I love myself but not that much
LET THERE BE LIGHT
"Love follows knowledge." – St. Catherine of Siena
My literature blog: http://ashesfromburntroses.blogspot.com/
I have already PMed Quark (last night). Not sure what happened but it will be corrected as soon as he replies.
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"It is not that I am mad; it is only that my head is different from yours.”
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Thank you Scher.I have already PMed Quark (last night). Not sure what happened but it will be corrected as soon as he replies.
LET THERE BE LIGHT
"Love follows knowledge." – St. Catherine of Siena
My literature blog: http://ashesfromburntroses.blogspot.com/
Okay...this is just weird! I didn't quote myself, that's for sure (I love myself but not that much
Maybe the mod did not mess up; maybe the new computer program read the avy's as the same. When in doubt, blame it on the computer!
Last edited by Janine; 08-29-2008 at 07:23 PM.
Chapter 7, The Little Prince ~ Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
That's okay. I didn't take it personally. In fact, I didn't really take it as anything. I just thought it was a weird glitch.I swear I wasn't trying to take over anyone
"Par instants je suis le Pauvre Navire
[...] Par instants je meurs la mort du Pecheur
[...] O mais! par instants"
--"Birds in the Night" by Paul Verlaine (1844-1896). Join the discussion here: http://www.online-literature.com/for...5&goto=newpost
Since the weird glinch (hope it is straightened out by now), I think we got off the beaten path. Therefore, I read back and believe we are ready to go onto the next part of the story, so here is
The Next Part of the Text:
Tomorrow I will add to this; the next part introduces the parson."I believe this child's hungry," she said. "How long is it since he had anything?"
"Just afore dinner," said Emma dully.
"Good gracious!" exclaimed Bertha. "You needn't starve the child now you've got it. Once every two hours it ought to be fed, as I've told you; and now it's three. Take him, poor little mite--I'll cut the bread." She bent and looked at the bonny baby. She could not help herself: she smiled, and pressed its cheek with her finger, and nodded to it, making little noises. Then she turned and took the loaf from her sister. The woman rose and gave the child to its mother. Emma bent over the little sucking mite. She hated it when she looked at it, and saw it as a symbol, but when she felt it, her love was like fire in her blood.
"I should think 'e canna be comin'," said the father uneasily, looking up at the clock.
"Nonsense, father--the clock's fast! It's but half-past four! Don't fidget!" Bertha continued to cut the bread and butter.
"Open a tin of pears," she said to the woman, in a much milder tone. Then she went into the next room. As soon as she was gone, the old man said again: "I should ha'e thought he'd 'a' been 'ere by now, if he means comin'."
Emma, engrossed, did not answer. The father had ceased to consider her, since she had become humbled.
Chapter 7, The Little Prince ~ Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
I did find it interesting, how compared to everyone else, Bertha seemed to be so maternal toward the child and the only one who seemed to truly care about the child and not just view it as a stain upon the family, or a burdon that has to be taken care of, or a duty of family obligation.
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before. ~ Edgar Allan Poe
Well, it seems she is more responsible with the child and yet she does tend to boss the younger sister. I can relate to all of this since I have two younger sisters myself.
Actually, this is how the mother, Emma,the youngest feels:
"The woman rose and gave the child to its mother. Emma bent over the little sucking mite. She hated it when she looked at it, and saw it as a symbol, but when she felt it, her love was like fire in her blood."
Even thought she hates it and sees it as a symbol - symbol of the family strife or tension and the shame she has caused them (?)...her true self cannot but feel and her deepest feeling is on "love"..."like fire in her blood." Here once again, I think that Lawrence shows that 'blood' rules in the end; not the intellect or simple reasoning. This child has brought on the shame and the tension and yet the child is innocent. The symbol also to Emma would be of her actions in conceiving this unwanted pregnancy. So that we could say she has very mixed feeling about the baby and yet her deepest 'blood' love wins out.
Chapter 7, The Little Prince ~ Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Yes, though I do not think I would say Emma is truly maternal, even if she has moments where she loves the child,
She does not even know when her own child is hungery or how often she should feed it. And the way she anwerers her sister, as if she does not really care. I do not think her just being young, is enough of an excuse for that."I believe this child's hungry," she said. "How long is it since he had anything?"
"Just afore dinner," said Emma dully.
"Good gracious!" exclaimed Bertha. "You needn't starve the child now you've got it. Once every two hours it ought to be fed, as I've told you; and now it's three. Take him, poor little mite--
She has to be told to take care of her own child, and how to care for it.
In addtion to be more responseable Bertha acts much more affectionately towrd the child.She bent and looked at the bonny baby. She could not help herself: she smiled, and pressed its cheek with her finger, and nodded to it, making little noises.
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before. ~ Edgar Allan Poe
Perhaps Bertha doesn't think of the baby as a symbol like the rest of the family does. I know Lawrence only accuses Emma directly of interpreting the baby as a symbol, but clearly that sentence is applicable to the other members of the family. It might also explain why Bertha is more maternal toward the child.
"Par instants je suis le Pauvre Navire
[...] Par instants je meurs la mort du Pecheur
[...] O mais! par instants"
--"Birds in the Night" by Paul Verlaine (1844-1896). Join the discussion here: http://www.online-literature.com/for...5&goto=newpost
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