Even on Forums, one might add!Originally Posted by Virgil
Governemnt, church, school board, family get to together - politics is always dirty.
Even on Forums, one might add!Governemnt, church, school board, family get to together - politics is always dirty.
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"It is not that I am mad; it is only that my head is different from yours.”
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Even on Forums, one might add!
LET THERE BE LIGHT
"Love follows knowledge." – St. Catherine of Siena
My literature blog: http://ashesfromburntroses.blogspot.com/
The smilie menu seems fine at my end?
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"It is not that I am mad; it is only that my head is different from yours.”
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The more I read the more I'm was getting used to the language. It really was pretty enjoyable.
"Get thee to a nunnery."
Was enjoyable? Means you've read the entire book? Gosh I am still on page 78, lol. I do still find these Latin phrases a bit disconcerting, popping up like that when I don't really have the means or the patience to write them down or look them up. But it is a wonderful read so far.
Thanks ntropy! Suppellectili is utensils or so they say over here
A monastery without books . . . is like a city without prosperity, a fortress without troops, a kitchen without utensils, a table without food, a garden without herbs, a meadow without flowers, a tree without leaves
Full many a gem of purest ray serene
The dark unfathom'd caves of ocean bear:
Full many a flower is born to blush unseen,
And waste its sweetness on the desert air.
From Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard ~ Thomas Gray
I did...I read over night and into most of the day...its what happens when you have too much free time. I'm thinking on going back and re-reading it in maybe a week and taking more time. I'm sure it'll be better, just the Latin threw me off.
"Get thee to a nunnery."
Cool! That you are re-reading now, it is always better on a second read! Try the link in my post above (or here is the main page), it has some of the Latin explained.
Full many a gem of purest ray serene
The dark unfathom'd caves of ocean bear:
Full many a flower is born to blush unseen,
And waste its sweetness on the desert air.
From Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard ~ Thomas Gray
I started last night. I'll start posting some thoughts when I've read a 100 pages or so.
LET THERE BE LIGHT
"Love follows knowledge." – St. Catherine of Siena
My literature blog: http://ashesfromburntroses.blogspot.com/
Wow It's Been A Long Time Since I've Read This Book, Finally I Have A Reason To Pick It Up And Read It Again...
If you kill a book, you kill an idea
We are not what we know but what we are willing to learn
I am on the chapter Nones -Third Day, I really did like this chapter and especially where William is talking of the lepers etc., of how exclusion of a set of people leads to discontent. I like this line and others connected with it
I am really liking the book! So much that I committed the unforgivable sin of reading while having a test tommorow, but I have done that so many times even remorse seems useless."Scratch the heresy and you will find the leper"
Would be glad to read your thoughts on this.
Full many a gem of purest ray serene
The dark unfathom'd caves of ocean bear:
Full many a flower is born to blush unseen,
And waste its sweetness on the desert air.
From Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard ~ Thomas Gray
I'm about fifty pages in. I don't have time to post thoughts today. This is my second reading of it, so I am seeing so much more. I've really gotten into it, so I decided to order a book that explains a lot of the mysterious passgaes and translates the latin. It's called The Key to The Name of the Rose. This is it off of Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Key-Name-Rose-...2652859&sr=8-4. I've gotten so interested I thought that this was a good time to really study the work in detail. I ordered it last night and should come in sometime next week. I'll be glad to type out translations for passages, if it doesn't become to exhausting. But I do have certain thoughts right now, and I'll try to post them shortly.
LET THERE BE LIGHT
"Love follows knowledge." – St. Catherine of Siena
My literature blog: http://ashesfromburntroses.blogspot.com/
Yeah, I heard about the book, will see if I can find it. Would be so great if you type it out or at least as much as you can!
I was also wondering if the history in the book is all true or is some of it fabricated?
Full many a gem of purest ray serene
The dark unfathom'd caves of ocean bear:
Full many a flower is born to blush unseen,
And waste its sweetness on the desert air.
From Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard ~ Thomas Gray
I spent a little time last year learning the history of the middle ages, and while I'm no expert the points I remember that have come up are accurate so far.
LET THERE BE LIGHT
"Love follows knowledge." – St. Catherine of Siena
My literature blog: http://ashesfromburntroses.blogspot.com/
Eco is a specialist in Medieval philosophy and semiotics at the University of Bologna, so he does know his way with Middle-Ages and the whole context the book is set in. The historical context is in fact very precise, a conflict between the Franciscans and the Pope, instigated by Guillaume of Ockham about the wealth of the Pope. I believe Guillaume of Baskerville (the name Guillaume was chosen by Eco as a reference to Ockham as well) refers to Ockham as his friend in the book, but Baskerville also represents Ockham.
So I do suggest to read about this particular political, theological and historical context.
EDIT: Replace Guillaume by William, which is the English version of the same name.
Last edited by Etienne; 02-11-2008 at 03:45 PM.
Et l'unique cordeau des trompettes marines
Apollinaire, Le chantre
Thanks for the info! I read this too which was very helpful. Hey Virgil, could you suggest any online reading for this?
Full many a gem of purest ray serene
The dark unfathom'd caves of ocean bear:
Full many a flower is born to blush unseen,
And waste its sweetness on the desert air.
From Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard ~ Thomas Gray
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