Fair enough, no point yelling at a wall on both our ends.Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi
Fair enough, no point yelling at a wall on both our ends.
Of course I am generalizing, but this is hardly a major argument that has not surfaced in American discourse either. Just read Philip Roth's novel the Human Stain which discusses the same issues. He is American, and was there in the 60s.
It is ridiculous how a country that infiltrates our media, puts students and professors in our universities (Canada's), and then produces intelligent people who nonetheless come onto message boards and spout such idiocy.
When you make any statement about culture, you are necessarily generalizing. That however does not change the trend. I am privy to American news, American television, American cinema and American literary forms, as well as American music, and American people - hate to break it to you, I live near a border in an international city with plenty of Americans, and definitely its fair share of American exposure.
But what you tell me is this: you can come here and bash us, you can do trade with us, and link our economies completely, to the point where it is clear we are each other's most significant trade partners, you can push all your media on us, but when one little well read punk on the internet decides to express his informed opinion, you need to have a cry like a spoiled child. Now you tell me, big boy, who is trying to repress what? Who is trying to silence instead of address? Are you not just illustrating my point you?
Are you Muslim? Then how can you comment. Or better, I will assume you are female then?Good one! Cultural Relativism at it's worst!!! No I don't, nor will EVER respect Islamic cultures who practice evil towards women.
Seriously, you are so thick. Besides, hate to break it to you, all cultures practice violence toward women. I am yet to see one that doesn't. Keep your bigotry unvoiced. Start by trying to fix your lot up, then worry about others'.
Ohh come on, I ridicouled the bigoted view first, I put up my flag first, you can't just come and put your flag up as well, I did it first, that entitles me to exlusivity for at least the thread.
There are unspoken rules man, dont make me speak them !
No, Mortal may not agree with me, but he at least understands my opinion somewhat, and sees it as legitimate, as he has mentioned in the past. He knows he holds an opinion on French poetry, and he knows I will not disregard it because he is not French. Nor will I disregard his opinion on Roman poets because he's not Roman, as he is just as qualified to make the decision through his reading and analyzing of materials.
As for my bias, not particularly strong relatively speaking. I actually am a major fan of much American artwork, which is where I base my opinions from - I read the novels, poetry, plays, etc. and generate my responses - and I mix in critical and theoretical work by Americans to flesh it out too. The same way anybody studying anything, or reading about anything does so.
It is just ridiculous how people can comment that other people are not allowed to discuss their culture, meanwhile working to discuss others. It is especially ridiculous when you hear it knowing that Americans put their programming on all of your TVs, and their movies in all of your cinemas, and their books on all of your shelves - and yet by the rude responses, expect you not to make judgments which were not even evaluative keep in mind, about their work which they have, some would argue, forced on you anyway.
The ridiculous thing is, if anybody had taken the time to read my posts, which I made a while ago, they are not even about the United States particularly. My comment was, this observation, that the original poster had written into a paper, and quoted was not as prevalent outside of the United States, and I gave my reason why. Who better to know where something is not as prevalent than someone who isn't there? She spotted the phenomenon, I just commented on how it isn't universal.
As for whether I am right or wrong, well, that is to be decided by the comments themselves. So far the best I hear is, "You have been anti-American in your past, therefore you are automatically wrong." Well, read the damn posts, if anything I have been supportive of American texts, and have been discussing international concerns - I put a followup comment on one post, which seems to not even be particularly heinous, and then I get derided for something which misses the entire point, meanwhile reaffirming it.
This whole argument has merely just reaffirmed my comments as holding true. I am commenting on such things as reading Huck Finn only for its racist undertones, when I comment that it should be read as the story that it is. Then some punks come along, and read my comments only for that I am Canadian, and try to silence me accordingly. Now you tell me, is that not the same weird twisted logic of suppressing things that don't sound good regardless of their content?
Don't worry, you can have his next tirade.Ohh come on, I ridicouled the bigoted view first, I put up my flag first, you can't just come and put your flag up as well, I did it first, that entitles me to exlusivity for at least the thread.
There are unspoken rules man, dont make me speak them !
I am not even going to answer this, as I am baffled as to were to begin.
So I shall be faetitious. As to look at your response in anything but a comic manner would cause many a man to despair.
http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...ined/obj7.html
Last edited by Alexander III; 02-21-2012 at 12:21 PM.
Yes, in "Christian Cultures" women do not get physically assaulted, beaten, or murdered, right? This is an "Islamic" thing. Now, this "Islamic" thing can perhaps be compared, right? So, somewhere like the Democratic Republic of Congo, a predominantly Christian nation, as you have stated (96% of the population according to Wikipedia with the most common denomination being Catholic) would be exempt. That isn't what the UN resolutions are saying anyway. Or do they not count?
Seriously, look at the trash in your backyard first.
No no that is all wrong, Congo is full of black people, they are not real christians, they are the sons of Cain afterall and some of our very wise popes of yesteryear told us to keep them as slaves as the son's of Cain can never be true christians.
What are you talking about?? I never stated anything about the Democratic Republic of Congo. My backyard?? What are you talking about? I'm not a Christian!!! Never said I was.
You are, in my opinion, not very smart. This statement is so dumb. I am an an athiest. Ofcourse I can comment. I have free will to comment. I will not keep my so called "bigotry" against Islamic extremism unvoiced. I also will not keep any criticism of Christianity unvoiced, but the subject I responded to was on Islamic extremism, you can go back and read what I commented on, or then, don't-it's up to you. I don't believe you are breaking anything to me, all cultures do and have practiced violence. However, that was not what I was responding to. I assumed it was general knowledge that all cultures do this. I was commenting on one. And, I will not stop, because I really don't care what anyone thinks. That is the beauty of getting older, if there is any beauty in it at all.
Okay, don't answer it then. I'm glad you find me funny, thank you. Try spelling correctly. As for the stupid pic of Puff Daddy, I really can't stand him. Oh, does that make me a racist?I am not even going to answer this, as I am baffled as to were to begin.
So I shall be faetitious. As to look at your response in anything but a comic manner would cause many a man to despair.
http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...ined/obj7.html
I can't really understand your spelling very well, too many mistakes.
Whenever I see an american bashing Canada, I think they're just angry that they're not Canadian.
I'm with you. Nor will I, not anymore. I think......
I'm Canadian too. I lived there until I was three-beautiful place.
There you go, generalizing again and making yourself look small. I'm not telling you any of the above. And, I am not a "big boy", I'm a 54 year old Canadian-American. And you don't speak for Canadians.
Then on what grounds dare you comment on my position you hypocrite.
Did I claim to? I speak for myself, who is Canadian.
Why shouldn't I comment on your anti-American slant? As for being called a hypocrite-what you call me doesn't bother me, I know I am not what you think I am, so it doesn't matter.
See you in Toronto,
a beautiful place.
Last edited by KCurtis; 02-21-2012 at 03:35 PM.
Are you anti-islamic then? or Anti-Christian? Or just a bigot? Are you not making generalizing sweeping statements? As I said before, do not comment if you are not willing to comment on yourself. I do not hide my dislike of certain aspects of American culture, identity, policy and politics. Everyone knows this. That does not make my comments necessarily Anti-American (of which those in particular were not), nor does it disqualify my opinions from being relevant.
Have fun rocket man, I will not respond to you again.
Railing at greatness became Railing at JBI
It's difficult to discern whether it is mere trollishness, or whether they are actually serious in their endeavor. But it seems too commonplace here to just attack me as Anti-American without reading anything that I write. It is far more ridiculous when the comments that I make are not particularly anti-American, nor particularly polemic, or controversial.Railing at greatness became Railing at JBI
As for my own greatness, well, I am able to reduced 54 year old grown men to pathetic name calling and idiocy, so I guess I have some charm.
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