Football World Cup 2010

[billl]

I wasn't surprised by Tim Howard, but I was surprised by the U.S. midfield. England is gonna have to do better against athletic midfielders and speedy forwards, when they meet some of the other favored teams.

[Virgil]

My next set of picks.

Slovenia - Win (4 coins)

Ghana - Win (4 coins)

Germany - Win (20 coins)

[Lulim]

My guesses for today:

Algeria vs Slovenia -- Draw, 5 Eliots

Serbia vs Ghana -- Ghana, 5 Eliots

Germany vs Australia -- Germany, 30 Eliots

[prendrelemick]

Yes we had the better game but it doesn't count for much in the end.



Yes he links up well and wins the headers, but as a forward option he just isn't one. As a forward you are going to be in a position once or twice in a game when you get a chance and this is where he is the problem because he is physically unable to convert chances. At the one-on-one he couldn't have hit the keeper's chest better if he had a target on it, he is a liability. Much better, I think to push Rooney in that forward position and to sit someone like Joe Cole in behind. Rooney tends to sit too deep because he looks to create as he did today, but we want Rooney forward in that danger area and that didn't happen enough today.



Sure but we are several bricks short and that's the problem.

Armchair expert signing off; I need a shower (no hot water for a bath the boiler has packed in...damn)


Ok so we're not going to win it!
I'm a Heskey fan and have been for years because defenders hate to play against him, he's big and strong and knocks them over. We just haveN't got a Shearer Owen Lineker anymore.

[LitNetIsGreat]

I didn't think either team was that good. From what I saw earlier in the day, Argentina and possibly even Nigeria could beat either of those teams handily.

Argentina definitely, they looked quietly comfortable and should have scored a lot more, but Nigeria no, I'd be happy with facing them.


Ok so we're not going to win it!
I'm a Heskey fan and have been for years because defenders hate to play against him, he's big and strong and knocks them over. We just haveN't got a Shearer Owen Lineker anymore.

Aha! So your the sole Heskey fan are you? I thought they must have been one. I agree he is a handful and wins everything in the air but he just does, not, score. :banghead:

Tough call the first game for me, could be anything and hard to predict. Both poor sides but Slovenia have slightly more on paper, though that might not count for much. As I have put a little money on Algeria to finish rock bottom in this group (1.83) with Germany and Brazil to win the group, I'll punt a little on Slovenia, so I will go a cautious 4 Zlotty.

Slovenian win 4 Zlotty (I've exchanged the Gogols because they are not giving me any luck.) I'll post my thoughts on the other games later, just need a little more research on these teams first.

[Scheherazade]

South Africa ponders vuvuzela ban after complaints

South Africa's World Cup organising chief Danny Jordaan may ban vuvuzelas from inside stadiums after complaints from broadcasters and supporters.

The constant sound of the high-pitched horn-like instrument has so far drowned out any of the atmosphere-generating singing usually associated with games. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8737455.stm

[LitNetIsGreat]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8737455.stm

Oh, let's hope so, FIFA was aware of this before and could/should have banned them from the start. One of their reasons for not doing so was the claim that the vuvuzelas things are "part of the African heritage" apparently, what mass produced plastic trumpets?

[Niamh]

right my bets are in...

Algeria- 5
Serbia/Ghana- Draw 5 (although i'm leaning towards Ghana...)
Germany- 20

[kilted exile]

Ok

Slovenia for the win - 5
Serbia to get past Ghana (micheal essien's injury is too much for them to overcome) - 10
Germany to rout Australia - 30

[MarkBastable]

40 carrolls on Germany

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Kilted: 110

Lulim: 80

Mark: 58

Neely: 82

Niamh: 100

Papaya: 19

Paul : 83

Pren: 27

Scher: 102

Turquoise: 75

Virgil: 91


Algeria vs Slovenia:

Virgil: Slovenia (4)

Lulim: Draw (5)

Neely: Slovenia (4)

Niamh: Algeria (5)

Kilted: Slovenia (5)

Scher: Algeria (3)


I have no idea how good Algerians are but just wishing them a win.

[Paulclem]

Mine are

Slovenia 5 vuvuzelas
Ghana 5 vuvuzelas
Germany 10 vuvuzelas

[kilted exile]

First appearance of a rangers player today Bougherra for Algeria.

[prendrelemick]

I hardly dare bet on anything now!

The recovery starts here

10 Blytons on Germany.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Algeria Vs Snorevenia...:as-sleep:

Putting 5 Zlotty on a Serbian win. :thumbsup:

[kilted exile]

That was dreadful - Slovenia do look organised and hard to break down however....

[papayahed]

Serbia vs Ghana -- Ghana, 2 coins

Germany vs Australia -- Germany, 4 coins

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Kilted: 115

Lulim: 75

Mark: 58

Neely: 86

Niamh: 95

Papaya: 19

Paul : 88

Pren: 27

Scher: 99

Turquoise: 75

Virgil: 95


Serbia vs Ghana:

Virgil: Ghana (4)

Lulim: Ghana (5)

Neely: Serbia (5)

Niamh: Draw (5)

Kilted: Serbia (10)

Scher: Ghana (3)

Paul: Ghana (5)

Papaya: Ghana (2)

[Snowqueen]

Here come the teams, I predict 2 - 1 to Ghana.

[Virgil]

What an entertaining game that Ghana/Serbia match was. Lots of energy from both sides. :)

[LitNetIsGreat]

What an entertaining game that Ghana/Serbia match was. Lots of energy from both sides. :)

Wait for the big boys, Brazil and Spain!!! Spain will be awesome in this world cup.

Serbia a big disappointment for me, a lot of people had them as hot dark horses, but on that performance they are nothing at all, over cautious, set piece hopefuls with no creativity. Ghana much more energy and commitment and deserved to win, plus what a stupid hand ball for the sending off.

Putting 10 Zlottys on Germany. I think this will be a little closer than a lot of people expect, but I'm backing the German win. Australia will pack midfield and defend deep, but I think Germany will have too much for them and break them down. Presently looking at odds for a 2-0, might have a pop at that if good enough.

[Paulclem]

Yes - the Germans have had trouble recently, but they can never be written off. Missed the Ghana Serbia match. I hope i catch it on Match Of The Day tonight!


What an entertaining game that Ghana/Serbia match was. Lots of energy from both sides. :)

Are you a footie convert Virgil or did you always like it?

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Kilted: 105

Lulim: 80

Mark: 58

Neely: 81

Niamh: 90

Papaya: 21

Paul : 93

Pren: 27

Scher: 102

Turquoise: 75

Virgil: 99


Germany vs Australia:

Virgil: Germany (20)

Lulim: Germany (30)

Neely: Germany (10)

Niamh: Germany (20)

Kilted: Germany (30)

Mark: Germany (40)

Scher: Germany (38)

Paul: Germany (10)

Pren: Germany (10)

Papaya: Germany (4)

[Paulclem]

I hope the Aussies beat Germany though. I like an underdog to win - especially if the underdog is England.

[prendrelemick]

Has no one put anything on the aussies....or a draw even.

[billl]

That first goal (Germans v. Australia) looked offsides. Here in the U.S., I think they reviewed it on the broadcast just once, but without the special off-sides-shading graphics that they usually use. It looked off-sides to me, but the announcers stayed away from discussion of it after that one look at it.

I might have missed something (my attention is a bit divided). Did I just see things wrong in that one replay?

[LitNetIsGreat]

I've not noticed any comments about off-side, I don't think it was.

It must be said the Germans look very good, by far the best team performance of the world cup so far. Their odds to win the world cup have dropped from 15 to 11.5 on that half alone. (I managed to get a couple of quid on after 1-0 at 14 so I am happy about that.)

[kilted exile]

That is the best half of football so far (argentina included) whoever finishes second in group C is in for a second round exit.

[Scheherazade]

I missed the first goal :-/
That is the best half of football so far (argentina included) .Aye, aye, aye!

*puts on her clogs and dances*

This is excellent football!

In honour of Germany's game, the beer is on the house!

:cheers2: :cheers2: :cheers2: :cheers2: :cheers2: :cheers2:

[billl]

Ah, I didn't know the guy in "offside position" had to end up touching the ball. Similar to hockey now, I just remember it used to be a little different.

[Paulclem]

Tm Cahill's sending off was unfair, though i don't think it will affect the outcome much.

[kilted exile]

A german team that plays with flair and creativity? Whats next an Italian side that doesnt settle for 1-0?

That was a joy to watch and Ozil and Khedira look like a great midfield partnership for years to come - who needs Micheal Ballack?

[Paulclem]

That's right. They were pretty devastating .

[Scheherazade]

Finally, a day of football that is worthy of the World Cup!

Ghana exciting, Germany efficient and energetic... I was bouncing on my sofa today!

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Kilted: 135

Lulim: 110

Mark: 98

Neely: 91

Niamh: 110

Papaya: 25

Paul : 103

Pren: 37

Scher: 140

Turquoise: 75

Virgil: 119


Tomorrow:

Netherlands vs Denmark

Japan vs Cameroon

Italy vs Paraguay

Just occurred to me that I won't be able to watch the first two matches tomorrow!

Maybe I should stop taking the Night Nurse and let my cold prolong a little longer...

[LitNetIsGreat]

A very good looking Germany. Can you believe that England are rated twice as good according to the betting? No one will want to finish second in our group and face them. It is now a game of goal difference between us and the US to stay in the competition.

Bets for tomorrow:

Netherlands 7 Zlotty
Cameroon 2 Zlotty

Oh well done Scher for winning at the moment, good bit of early fame for you until the Neely steamrollers ahead!!!

[Niamh]

I knew i should have gone with my instinct on Ghana winning! Ah well! tomorrow is another day!
And seeing as i'm in work for 4am...
Here are my bets for the first two matchs tomorrow... (still mulling over the final match)

Holland (Netherlands) 20
Cameroon 5

[MarkBastable]

20 faulkners on the Netherlands.

[Paulclem]

For tomorrow:

10 Rowlings on the Nederlands
5 Rowlings on Cameroon
10 Rowlings on Italy. :lol:

[wessexgirl]

That was dreadful - Slovenia do look organised and hard to break down however....

I don't know what's going on with the betting on this thread, I haven't really taken much notice, but I have Slovenia in the sweepstake at work........Wooohoooo:ciappa: I thought they were rubbish, but they could be the winners of the group.

[billl]

I'm going all in again, predicting a dramatic and convincing draw between Cameroon and Japan.

[Virgil]

Are you a footie convert Virgil or did you always like it?

No, no. I like football (soccer as we call it) but I really only follow the World Cup. There's so much sports in the US that I get overwhelmed as it is.

Hey I had a great day yesterday: three for three correct!! :ciappa:

[prendrelemick]

10 doshes on Italy.


I hate this cautious approach, but needs must while I recoup my disasterous losses.

[Virgil]

Ok, in case I'm not back later I better put in my bets now. In honor of Italy playing we shall have to go ith the dante as the currency. :D

Nederlands ~ 10 dantes to win

Cameroon ~ 5 dantes to win

Italy ~ 10 dantes to win

:wink5:

[Lulim]

That's been a remarkable match yesterday, and I won my Eliots back :)

Today:

Netherlands vs Denmark -- Draw, 5 Gaskells

Japan vs Cameroon -- Cameroon, 5 Gaskells

Italy vs Paraguay -- Italy, 5 Gaskells

[kilted exile]

I have been over-cautious when I am sure of a good result, not today:

60 on Holland
15 on a cameroon/japan draw
60 on Italy

[Jesterhead]

I am predicting a danish victory.

Denmark win - 50 crowns

Cameroon win - 10 crowns

Italy win - 10 crowns

[TurquoiseSunset]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8737455.stm


Oh, let's hope so, FIFA was aware of this before and could/should have banned them from the start. One of their reasons for not doing so was the claim that the vuvuzelas things are "part of the African heritage" apparently, what mass produced plastic trumpets?

I was hoping they would ban them from the start as well...they are just way too loud and distracting (sounds like a hive of angry bees to me). Worst of all they can actually harm your hearing. In my opinion vuvuzelas completely ruin the atmosphere too.

As for it being African heritage, well, that's bull. As far as I know it only became popular in the nineties or there abouts. So the vuvuzela is not to African heritage what curries are to Indian heritage for example...honestly... I watched a rugby game (on t.v.), held at one of the new stadiums right before the world cup started, and it was horrible. I felt sorry for the players, and you could hardly hear the commentators. The ref wanted to talk to the t.v. ref about a try, but he couldn't hear a thing over the noise. So I hope they ban it...and I don't feel like a traitor for saying it either :D

So...
Netherlands win - 10 muntstukke
Cameroon win - 5 muntstukke
Italy win - 5 muntstukke

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 100

Kilted: 135

Lulim: 110

Mark: 98

Neely: 91

Niamh: 110

Papaya: 25

Paul : 103

Pren: 37

Scher: 140

Turquoise: 75

Virgil: 119


Netherlands vs Denmark

Neely: Netherlands (7)

Niamh: Netherlands (20)

Mark: Netherlands (20)

Paul: Netherlands (10)

Virgil: Netherlands (10)

Lulim: Draw (5)

Kilted: Netherlands (60)

Jester: Denmark (50)

Turquoise: Netherlands (10)

Scher: Draw (5)


Draw is a wishful thinking more than anything else, I guess, by the look of the bets but I am not sure if write Denmark off so easily either.

AND can't even watch the match! :mad:

Wessex> You can join us if you like. It is explained in the very post of this thread :)

[papayahed]

Denmark win - 8 tennies

Cameroon draw - 10 tennies

Italy win - 7 crowns

[TurquoiseSunset]

Netherlands win 2-0!!!!!

[Virgil]

Boy that Netherlands/Denmark game was boring. Even though I bet on the Dutch I began to root for the Danes.

[Niamh]

I knew i should have gone with my instinct on Ghana winning! Ah well! tomorrow is another day!
And seeing as i'm in work for 4am...
Here are my bets for the first two matchs tomorrow... (still mulling over the final match)

Holland (Netherlands) 20
Cameroon 5

I've decided...
30 on Italy to win

[Snowqueen]

Boy that Netherlands/Denmark game was boring. Even though I bet on the Dutch I began to root for the Danes.

:iagree: It was not just boring but extremely boring.

[Apriori]

I liked it.

[Paulclem]

Holland have in previous world cups blazed onto the scene until they ran out of steam. They did that in the recent european cup too. Perhaps they're taing it a bit easier this year in the initial rounds.

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 50

Kilted: 195

Lulim: 105

Mark: 118

Neely: 98

Niamh: 130

Papaya: 17

Paul : 113

Pren: 37

Scher: 135

Turquoise: 85

Virgil: 129


Japan vs Cameroon

Neely: Cameroon (2)

Niamh: Cameroon (2)

Paul: Cameroon (5)

Bill: Draw

Virgil: Cameroon (5)

Lulim: Cameroon (5)

Kilted: Draw (15)

Jester: Cameroon (10)

Turquoise: Cameroon (5)

Papaya: Draw (10)


I could watch neither the Holland game nor the Japan game. :-/

(And probably some of the Italy game as well :mad:)

[LitNetIsGreat]

I've caught about half of both matches today (as I have been forced off of the settee to do that work thing:sad:) and I think the Dutch were OK but nothing special, but like Paul says perhaps they are saving a bit. For personal finanical reasons though I'm glad to see a bit of a lackluster performance as I'm hoping for Brazil and Spain to really shine.

A Very good result from Japan today, perhaps the shock of the tournament so far on paper at least.

I think the Italy game will be tight, and although I suspect Italy might just shade the match, I am going to go for a draw with minor stakes as I am certainly not risking too much on an Italian win as they naturally start slow, so:

Italy Paraguay draw 4 Dantes.

[MarkBastable]

40 calvinos on Italy.

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 40

Kilted: 180

Lulim: 100

Mark: 118

Neely: 96

Niamh: 128

Papaya: 7

Paul : 108

Pren: 37

Scher: 135

Turquoise: 80

Virgil: 124


Italy vs Paraguay

Neely: Draw (4)

Niamh: Italy (30)

Paul: Italy (10)

Pren: Italy (10)

Virgil: Italy (10)

Lulim: Italy (5)

Kilted: Italy (60)

Jester: Italy (10)

Turquoise: Italy (5)

Papaya: Italy (7)

Mark: Italy (40)

Scher Italy (30)

[Virgil]

Japan broke my streak. Looked like Camroon kept getting stronger as the match went on, but they just couldn't put it in. Oh well. Now for the Italians! I hope I can stay up to the end. It starts at 12:30 AM where I am.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Ho, ho, ho you Italian backers, not looking too good at 1-0 down...:hand: I'm hoping they pull one back though. ;)

[Paulclem]

Italy looked disappointing. Again they come good later in competitions.

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 30

Kilted: 120

Lulim: 95

Mark: 78

Neely: 100

Niamh: 98

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 98

Pren: 27

Scher: 105

Turquoise: 75

Virgil: 114


Never been a fan of the Italian football team and this seals the deal! :mad:

Hoping Virgil stayed up to watch it, though! :p


Tomorrow:

New Zealand vs Slovakia

Ivory Coast vs Portugal

Brazil vs N.Korea

[Jesterhead]

Portugal win - 15 crowns

Brazil win - 15 crowns

[Scheherazade]

Neely> Way to go predicting the draw, by the way.

[billl]

I have picked Ivory Coast to win it all. I think they'll get better as the Cup moves forward, but I'm gonna pick them to win the opener. Reckless, sure--but I'm putting it all on Ivory Coast.

[Paulclem]

New Zealand vs Slovakia

Ivory Coast vs Portugal

Brazil vs N.Korea

Slovakia - 5 Rabelais
Portugal - 10 Rabelais ( I hope they and Ronaldo lose though)
Brazil - 10 Rabelais

[MarkBastable]

28 on Slovakia.


However much I then have - which'll be either 50 or 106 - on Brazil.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Neely> Way to go predicting the draw, by the way.

Thank you, I thought it was possible, had a couple of real pound on that one too.

:banana:The world cup starts tomorrow properly with the samba boys!!!:banana: I'm looking for a good display.

First bets:

Slovakia win 35 Sambas
Portugal win 5 Sambas

[Virgil]

Hoping Virgil stayed up to watch it, though! :p


I stayed up. And feeling it this morning. Tough to watch the game with Russian announcers. They have absolutely no emotion in calling the game. Plus the language makes me miss things. I didn't realize Italy took Buffon out after half time until this morning.

I thought Italy actually played well, especially in the mid field. They seemed to have the best passing game of anyone I've seen so far. They had trouble pushing it into attack situations, but then Paraguay played very good defense. The rain conditions seemed to help Paraguay too.

[Lulim]

(...) They seemed to have the best passing game of anyone I've seen so far. (...)

Obviously you missed the match Germany / Australia :)


My tries today:

New Zealand vs Slovakia: Slowakia, 5 Melvilles

Ivory Coast vs Portugal: Draw, 5 Melvilles

Brazil vs N.Korea: Brazil, 5 Melvilles

[Virgil]

Obviously you missed the match Germany / Australia :)

:lol: Actually I did miss it except for the very beginning. I'm sure Germany has been the top team so far.

In honor of you Lulim, I'm going to agree with your picks and your currency, but I will alter the values for my bets.


New Zealand vs Slovakia: Slovakia, 10 Melvilles

Ivory Coast vs Portugal: Draw, 5 Melvilles

Brazil vs N.Korea: Brazil, 35 Melvilles

[Niamh]

NZ v Slov- Draw 5
Portugal- 5
Brazil- 40

Scher i'm on 95. I put 5 on Cameroon not two. :)

[The Atheist]

Anyone wanting to grossly inflate their pool should whack the lot on NZ to lose.


NZ v Slov- Draw 5

You deserve better than even money for that!

:eek2:

[kilted exile]

Slovakia win - 25
Portugal - 5
Brazil win - whatever I have in coin at the start of the game.

[TurquoiseSunset]

Boy that Netherlands/Denmark game was boring. Even though I bet on the Dutch I began to root for the Danes.

I agree, it's was painfully boring!

New Zealand wins (10 muntstukke)
Portugal vs. Ivory Coast draws (5 muntstukke)
Brazil wins (10 muntstukke)
...man, I need to win something for change...

[Scheherazade]

After the NZ vs Slovakia:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 30

Kilted: 95

Lulim: 90

Mark: 50

Neely: 65

Niamh: 100

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 93

Pren: 27

Scher: 105

Turquoise: 65

Virgil: 104


Ivory Coast vs Portugal:

Turquoise: Draw (5)

Kilted: Portugal (5)

Niamh: Portugal (5)

Virgil: Draw (5)

Lulim: Draw (5)

Neely: Portugal (5)

Paul: Portugal (10)

Jester: Portugal (15)

Scher: Portugal (20)


How was the NZ team? I couldn't watch them play and will miss the Portugal as well.

[Niamh]

You deserve better than even money for that!

:eek2:

I was right though! :D what do i get for being right? :D

[Scheherazade]

I was right though! :D what do i get for being right? :D5 Austens!

:D

[Snowqueen]

I must say Ivory Coast is doing very well even without Drogba. Let's see what Ronaldo does for his team.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Oh dear, poor results for me today, well done New Zealand for getting a draw beyond the odds though. I'll have to go all in on Brazil so 60 Sambas on Brazil, everything I've got.

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 15

Kilted: 90

Lulim: 95

Mark: 50

Neely: 60

Niamh: 95

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 83

Pren: 27

Scher: 85

Turquoise: 65

Virgil: 109


Brazil vs N.Korea

Turquoise: Brazil (10)

Kilted: Brazil (90)

Niamh: Brazil (40)

Virgil: Brazil (35)

Lulim: Brazil (5)

Neely: Brazil (60)

Paul: Brazil (10)

Jester: Brazil (15)

Mark: Brazil (50)

Scher: Brazil (65)

Pren: Brazil (20)


Most major teams have caused disappointment so far (apart from Germany); hope Brazil won't be one of those.

If they lose or draw, there will be a springing cleaning here (you know, it is tempting to wish a draw just to see that, actually :D:D:D).

And that would place Lulim at the top of the board! :)

[Paulclem]

Yes - it's shaking the predictions up a bit, but there's still a long way to go. Well done NZ and the Ivory Coast. I can't say I'm disappointed that the underdogs have done well.

[Virgil]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 15

Kilted: 90

Lulim: 95

Mark: 50

Neely: 60

Niamh: 95

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 83

Pren: 27

Scher: 85

Turquoise: 65

Virgil: 109




Wow, I'm actually in the lead! :eek2: Doesn't it figure that the American who who has no knowledge of the game and much to everyone's chagrin refers to it as soccer and not football is in the lead. :p

[prendrelemick]

I keep remembering 1966 when the North Koreans beat Italy and were two up against Portugal, before the great Eusaebio put them to the sword.


however 20 Peles on Brazil.

[Scheherazade]

Wow, I'm actually in the lead! :eek2: Doesn't it figure that the American who who has no knowledge of the game and much to everyone's chagrin refers to it as soccer and not football is in the lead. :pOh, that doesn't say much really... Luck plays a major role in football; Italy did win the World Cup in 2006 after all!

:D

[prendrelemick]

Wow, I'm actually in the lead! :eek2: Doesn't it figure that the American who who has no knowledge of the game and much to everyone's chagrin refers to it as soccer and not football is in the lead. :p



Well Virgil you know what they say about us experts.


An ex is a has-been and a spurt is a drip under pressure.

[The Atheist]

I was right though! :D what do i get for being right? :D

Crikey, if you'd been at the bookie's you'd have got 5:1 on a draw.

Well done!

[Niamh]

Crikey, if you'd been at the bookie's you'd have got 5:1 on a draw.

Well done!

Why thank you! If i'd gone to the bookies on saturday when i got my three predictions right i'd be loaded right now. :(

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 30

Kilted: 180

Lulim: 100

Mark: 100

Neely: 120

Niamh: 135

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 93

Pren: 47

Scher: 150

Turquoise: 75

Virgil: 144


Tomorrow:

Honduras vs Chile

Spain vs Switzerland

South Africa vs Uruguay

[Lulim]

Oh dear, for quite some time I thought it might really come to a draw :rolleyes:

[Jesterhead]

Spain win - 20 crowns

[Paulclem]

N Korea did well! Pity they didn't pull another back. We're having a sweep at work tomorrow too. It's been very enjoyable so far.

We used to use football and soccer interchangeably when I was a lad Virgil. It's true that we tend to use football or footie, (not to confused with footsie), these days, but it's not odd to hear you refer to it as soccer. As for your predictions - it must be your Italian heritage. :D

[LitNetIsGreat]

I'm putting 10 on Chile first.

N Korea did very well, all the Asian teams have performed well above expectations so far, S Korea and Japan winning, very good fitness levels. Brazil did not play sexy football, but they got the win they wanted. Super Spain tomorrow.

[Paulclem]

For tomorrow:

Chile - 5 Nivens
Spain - 10 Nivens
Uruguay - 5 Nivens

[MarkBastable]

If this were Hold 'Em, I'd bide my time. If this were money, I'd play a tight-aggressive game. But it's only pretend - though real enough, admittedly, to trigger my competitive instincts - so....


My entire roll on Spain. And if I come out of that with 200, put it all on Uruguay.


Paul - seriously. 5? 10? 5? Do you play poker at all? Because I'm in the Midlands from time to time.

[Scheherazade]

I think next time we should have another rule:

- You can bet only up to 50% of your existing "wealth".

:D

[MarkBastable]

I think next time we should have another rule:

- You can bet only up to 50% of your existing "wealth".

:D

Why? It's all about risk. Bill risked early and went out - and that's the downside to a bet that would have put him at a huge advantage had he won. Seems fair to me.

[Paulclem]

If this were Hold 'Em, I'd bide my time. If this were money, I'd play a tight-aggressive game. But it's only pretend - though real enough, admittedly, to trigger my competitive instincts - so....


My entire roll on Spain. And if I come out of that with 200, put it all on Uruguay.


Paul - seriously. 5? 10? 5? Do you play poker at all? Because I'm in the Midlands from time to time.

:lol:

You're right - I don't have much idea. I'm also torn between head and heart - I want the underdogs to win, though I bet on the likelies.

England though are a special case where head and heart unite before rending painfully... usually.

[Virgil]

N Korea did well! Pity they didn't pull another back. We're having a sweep at work tomorrow too. It's been very enjoyable so far.

We used to use football and soccer interchangeably when I was a lad Virgil.
Oh really? I didn't know that is was used in Britain as well. I shold look upo the etymology of it. Ok, I just did and it's fascinating. Here:


“Soccer’s etymology is not American but British,” explains Partha Mazumdar of the U.S. Embassy in London. “It comes from an abbreviation for Association Football, the official name of the sport (for those of you who have never heard the team “Association Football” before, it was named after the Football Association, which still governs English soccer, to differentiate itself from the other major type of football, Rugby Football, which was named after the Rugby School. FIFA, the world governing body of soccer, is French for the International Federation of Association Football… F-I-F-A).”

He continues, “For obvious reasons, in the 1880s and 1890s, English newspapers couldn’t use the first three letters of Association as an abbreviation in their pages, so they took the next syllable, S-O-C. With the British penchant for adding “-er” at the end of words: punter, footballer, copper, and, of course, nicknaming rugby, “rugger,” the word “soccer” was soon born, over a hundred years ago, here in England, the home of soccer. We adopted it and kept using it because we have our own indigenous sport that we call football.”

Still don’t like the word soccer? Blame the British, not us Yanks.
http://usasoccerstud.com/why-we-call-it-soccer/

Blame the Brits!!! :lol: :lol:

Ok, my bets for today:

Chile to win ~ 6 pesos

Spain to win ~ 20 pesos

S. Africa/Uraguay ~ Draw 10 pesos

[Snowqueen]

I think I should start betting too, but I don’t want to lose. :nonod:

[prendrelemick]

That Korean number 9 was fantastic, we were jumping up and down when they scored.


40 reales on spain please.-Will I never learn?


:lol:

You're right - I don't have much idea. I'm also torn between head and heart - I want the underdogs to win, though I bet on the likelies.

England though are a special case where head and heart unite before rending painfully... usually.


I know what you mean Paul. Because there are no odds there is no point risking anything on an underdog, even though you would like them to win.

[Virgil]

I think I should start betting too, but I don’t want to lose. :nonod:

It's not real money Snowqueen. We're just playing. :lol:

[prendrelemick]

Oh really? I didn't know that is was used in Britain as well. I shold look upo the etymology of it. Ok, I just did and it's fascinating. Here:


http://usasoccerstud.com/why-we-call-it-soccer/

Blame the Brits!!! :lol: :lol:

Ok, my bets for today:

Chile to win ~ 6 pesos

Spain to win ~ 20 pesos

S. Africa/Uraguay ~ Draw 10 pesos



I don't mind the word Soccer at all. BUT why do you Americans call a game of throw and catch, football?

[Virgil]

I don't mind the word Soccer at all. BUT why do you Americans call a game of throw and catch, football?

That's a good question. The game has evolved to where it's predominantly a throw, catch, and run sport, but the original play involved more kicking than it does today. There's kicking in the game (kick offs, punts, field goal, extra points), but not as much as say a hundred years ago.

This gives you a little history but it doesn't say how kicking was more integral to the earlier game: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football.

I guess this may explain the "football" aspect better: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_American_football_called_'football'

[billl]

Virgil's wiki-answers link looks like a pretty rational explanation--I had never thought about it before...

this link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_pass#History) might put the role of "passing" into historical perspective--it had been, originally, an illegal play (or at least, one not addressed by the rules or something...). The game was just about running before that, with the occasional kick (I believe)--something like rugby, I imagine, but with stopping and planning about how to achieve a score, as well as how to reach an intermediary (and ongoing) sub-aim of advancing the ball 10 yards or more in four 'plays' or less.

EDIT further research reveals that, originally, the numbers were a bit different for those things. But who cares? We aren't here to discuss football--this thread is about SOCCER! :thumbs_up Sorry!

[Lulim]

Honduras vs Chile: Draw, 5 Hardys
Spain vs Switzerland: Spain, 5 Hardys
South Africa vs Uruguay: South Africa, 5 Hardys

[papayahed]

ahhhhh I was a high roller for about 2 days.

[Niamh]

10 on Chile
20 on Spain
10 on a Draw between SA and Uru although i'm more leaning toward Uru.

[kilted exile]

ok -20 on Chile
15 on spain (but think the swiss will be stiffer competition than spain will anticipate)
10 on South Africa

[LitNetIsGreat]

Oh, I almost forgot, could have been deadly, 14.41pm! Right O, super Spain. I would have gone all in, but considering that many of the matches have been closer than expected I'll hold a little in reserve - Spain 85 paellas!

[TurquoiseSunset]

20 muntstukke on South Africa to win *crossing fingers*...it'll be awesome if we win on Youth Day!!!

[Jesterhead]

doesn't look too good with 0-0 in first half, I will be almost blanked out if Spain doesn't win :D

[Scheherazade]

After Honduras vs Chile: 0 - 1

Bill: Out!

Jester: 30

Kilted: 200

Lulim: 95

Mark: 100

Neely: 130

Niamh: 145

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 98

Pren: 47

Scher: 150

Turquoise: 75

Virgil: 150


Spain vs Switzerland

Jester: Spain (20)

Paul: Spain (10)

Mark: Spain (100)

Virgil: Spain (20)

Pren: Spain (40)

Lulim: Spain (5)

Niamh: Spain (20)

Kilted: Spain (15)

Neely: Spain (85)

[Niamh]

:eek: spain were awful.

[kilted exile]

teams need to learn how to break down stubborn hard-working teams. you beat them with pace down the outside and switching sides. I have watched too many teams try to pass their way through the centre of banks of players.

[Jesterhead]

Spain played great, everything they did went well except putting it in.

[Paulclem]

Yeah! Come on Switzerland!!! Oh I've lost10 Nivens...

[LitNetIsGreat]

:nonod::nonod::nonod::banghead: :bawling::cuss: :rolleyes: Spain lost!!!!

[Niamh]

poor mark has lost all! :(

[Emil Miller]

How the mighty are fallen. But if they learn the lesson, they may still win the cup.

[Niamh]

Chile were impressive though! Sanchez was in harmony with that ball. he was amazing to watch.

[prendrelemick]

WHAT!!! Spain lost ! Good grief, i'm down to my last few Dan Browns. Is begging allowed on the cold streets of lit-net.

[LitNetIsGreat]

You get the guitar and I'll get the hat...

80 paellas on that one gone.

[Niamh]

Dont you mean 85 Neely? :(

[LitNetIsGreat]

Dont you mean 85 Neely? :(

Damn, don't tell Sch, shushhhh...

[Scheherazade]

Suddenly I am happy that I was at work all day today!
How the mighty are fallen. Are you refering to Mark here, Brian?

You surely needn't be so sarcastic towards a friend who has just lost all his Forum riches!

[Snowqueen]

Spaniards were playing like a bunch of kids.

[Virgil]

:hurray: I only bet 20! :lol: :lol::

I'm cool, baby, I'm cool. :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA:


I think that game is the general theme of the world cup so far. If you stack the defensive box and you play physical, hard nosed defense, then you can match up with the very best. Paraguay, Uruguay, S. Korea, N.Korea, and now Switzerland. They all over achieved with it. It may not make for the most exciting football, but it levels the field and if you get a little lucky, like the Swiss, you might just pull it off.

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 10

Kilted: 185

Lulim: 90

Mark: Out!!

Neely: 45

Niamh: 125

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 88

Pren: 7

Scher: 150

Turquoise: 75

Virgil: 130


South Africa vs Uruguay

Scher: Uruguay (20)

Paul: Uruguay (5)

Mark: Uruguay

Virgil: Draw (10)

Lulim: South Africa (5)

Niamh: Draw (10)

Kilted: South Africa (10)

Neely: Uruguay (5)

Turquoise: South Africa (20)

[Virgil]

Scher - I just noticed, you didn't bet on Spain!

[Scheherazade]

I was at work all day today and did not get a chance; otherwise, I would have bet 30 on Spain as well :D

"Saved by the bell"... Literally!

[LitNetIsGreat]

:sad: I don't know what to do here, not happy - I've got the face on anyway.

5 on Uruguay?

[Dodo25]

Hellyeah, Switzerland is going crazy tonight!

[Emil Miller]

Suddenly I am happy that I was at work all day today!Are you refering to Mark here, Brian?

You surely needn't be so sarcastic towards a friend who has just lost all his Forum riches!

I most certainly wasn't, he's only lost 100 'whatevers' but Spain will now have to play that much better to get back in the running.

[TurquoiseSunset]

:flare::banghead::flare:

Bafana's not even trying!!!!!!!!!!! It's driving me insane!!!!!! They are just standing around on the field...argh!!!

[LitNetIsGreat]

Ah, they are doing their best, they are up against a tough side, Uruguay are no mugs.

[Lulim]

I should have gone to sleep instead -- and I lost my Hardys again :(

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 10

Kilted: 175

Lulim: 85

Mark: Out!

Neely: 50

Niamh: 115

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 93

Pren: 7

Scher: 170

Turquoise: 55

Virgil: 120


Tomorrow:

Argentina vs S. Korea

Greece vs Nigeria

France vs Mexico

[TurquoiseSunset]

Ah, they are doing their best, they are up against a tough side, Uruguay are no mugs.

I know Uruguay is good, but Bafana could have been more aggressive...instead of just reacting to whatever happened.

:sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:

[LitNetIsGreat]

Hmm, tough matches tomorrow. I don't know where my Dudeck Mclosco’s are going as yet. Can you bet on a snoozefest with the Greek match? :yawnb::yawnb::yawnb:

Following the betting on the betting forums, a lot of people lost a lot of money on the Spanish match, though some regained a little on Uruguay. Of course though, it may be something losing 5/10 grand on Spain, as some I "spoke" to have, but do they know that I lost 80 or (85 paellas) on the same game? I doubt it. Do they realise the pain I feel being thrashed by Sch at this stage? No. So they should be thankful that they have only lost 5/10 grand then really. :nopity:

I expect the tournament to pick up from now, being into the group second stages as per tonight, as let's be honest it has been slow, (slow but still fun).

I can't believe that I am at that evil place tomorrow instead of sitting with a beer watching the Arg Vs SK match, which should be a good one. If I had my way everything, apart from beer and sausage production, would stop for the World Cup. Damn it all...the only thing that matters is beer and football. Beer, football and sun (ish), does it really get much better than this? (Well actually it does in a way, as I have opera, racing and holidays planned, ah, the summer months, but it is all close to perfection really...) :thumbsup:

[Paulclem]

Hmmm - its hotting up.

Argentina win 10 Chaucers
Nigeria win - 10 Chaucers
Mexico win 5 Chaucers

I'm really enjoying the matches that I can get to see, and it was a real surprise to see Spain lose. Good old MOTD when I can't get back to see them live.

[Lulim]

Now my bets for today:

Argentina vs S. Korea: Argentina, 5 Saro Wiwas

Greece vs Nigeria: Draw, 5 Saro Wiwas

France vs Mexico: Draw, 5 Saro Wiwas

[prendrelemick]

If I had any dickensians left
Id be going on Argentina and France to win, Greece and Nigeria to draw.

But as I'm virtually skint I'm waiting for the surest sure thing of the tournament - England tomorrow.

[Virgil]

I'm going out on a limb today, and I'm going to use D.H. Lawrence as the currency. :D

Argentina/S. Korea Draw 10 Lawrences

Nigeria win - 20 Lawrences

France/Mexico Draw 10 Lawrences

[TurquoiseSunset]

Argentina vs Korea - Argentina wins (5 Christies)
Greece vs Nigeria - Nigeria wins (5 Christies)
France vs Mexico - Draw (5 Christies)
...I have to be a little more conservative now :lol:

[Jesterhead]

France win - 5 crowns

[LitNetIsGreat]

40 Dudeck Mclosco’s on Argentina please.

[Niamh]

10 on Argentina to win
5 on a draw between Nigeria and Greece
5 on Fr.... nope cant do it! Goes against the fibre of my being right now! 5 on Mexico to win.

[kilted exile]

50 on Argentina
10 on a France mexico draw
10 on greece nigeria draw

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 10

Kilted: 175

Lulim: 85

Mark: Out!

Neely: 50

Niamh: 115

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 93

Pren: 7

Scher: 170

Turquoise: 55

Virgil: 120


Argentina vs S. Korea

Paul: Argentina (10)

Lulim: Argentina (5)

Virgil: Draw (10)

Turquoise: Argentina (5)

Neely: Argentina (40)

Niamh: Argentina (10)

Kilted: Argentina (50)

Scher: Argentina (70)

[LitNetIsGreat]

Argentina are going to smash these.

5 DM on the Greek match please, draw.

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 10

Kilted: 225

Lulim: 90

Mark: Out!

Neely: 90

Niamh: 125

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 103

Pren: 7

Scher: 240

Turquoise: 60

Virgil: 110


Greece vs Nigeria:

Paul: Nigeria (10)

Lulim: Draw (5)

Virgil: Nigeria (20)

Turquoise: Nigeria (5)

Neely: Draw (5)

Niamh: Draw (5)

Kilted: Draw (10)

Scher: Nigeria (20)

[Virgil]

So much for my stupid hunches. Argentina looked outstanding. Boy, I hate to say that too, becasue I can't stand them. Is it me or is Argentina just not a likable bunch?

Edit: Scher I just noticed. I must be honest. I had Argentina to draw, not win.


(Well actually it does in a way, as I have opera, racing and holidays planned, ah, the summer months, but it is all close to perfection really...) :thumbsup:

Opera? Are you a singer Neely? And what kind of racing?

[Scheherazade]

Edit: Scher I just noticed. I must be honest. I had Argentina to draw, not win.Thank you, Virgil!

I had simply assumed that you must have meant a win for Argentina. :p


I like Argentina. They are energetic, skilled and passionate in their game. They show a team spirit that is lacking in most others.

They have been one of the few impressive teams so far, in my opinion.

[Virgil]

Thank you, Virgil!

I had simply assumed that you must have meant a win for Argentina. :p


I like Argentina. They are energetic, skilled and passionate in their game. They show a team spirit that is lacking in most others.

They have been one of the few impressive teams so far, in my opinion.

Yes, they have proven to be top notch. They always are, every year. I guess I have a thing against them ever since Maradonna had tha hand goal in the world cup many years ago (looked it up, 1986 against England). And he had the audacity to brag about it too. And now I have to watch his ugly face on the side lines all game long. :lol:

[Snowqueen]

I'm in guys, wish me luck.

Mexico win - 10 Rs

[LitNetIsGreat]

Opera? Are you a singer Neely? And what kind of racing?

Oh no, I'm just a listener/spectator, I'm off to the big city, London, to see Figaro! :drool5: With the racing, I'm off to the races, York races, we go every year with work, for a bit of general drinking in the sun and a few bets here and there - it's all good stuff and it means that the holidays are around the corner too which is even better!!!

I fancy France, but I'm not sure of the stake yet.

[Virgil]

Thanks Neely. As to the Nigeria game, bah. :rolleyes5: African teams have been extremely disappointing this world cup. Last time I think there might be a home field advantage of playing on the African continent.

[ennison]

Scotland won't win it anyway. Germany look sharp although that was not a true test. It'll be hard to score against Brazil. The Spanish and English have been dealt big blows to their egos. Argentina are just warming up but they'll have to get into top gear by next game. The other South American teams look good. Ok I'll plump for the Dutch getting into the semi finals and that is as much as I'll say. Cow-ard!

[Scheherazade]

Well, who'd a thunk that?

No idea how Greece ended up with 2 goals but I am glad that they did.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Thanks Neely. As to the Nigeria game, bah. :rolleyes5: African teams have been extremely disappointing this world cup. Last time I think there might be a home field advantage of playing on the African continent.

Yes, I've had a few quid on no African team to progress from the groups at good odds for interest, so I'm hoping they continue to flop somewhat. Ghana are the main threats though.

I think that France will play better tonight and expose Mexico as fluent, but over-rated, so I'm going for a French win staking 20.

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 10

Kilted: 215

Lulim: 85

Mark: Out!

Neely: 85

Niamh: 120

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 93

Pren: 7

Scher: 220

Snowqueen: 100

Turquoise: 55

Virgil: 90


France vs Mexico:

Paul: Mexico (5)

Lulim: Draw (5)

Virgil: Draw (10)

Turquoise: Draw (5)

Jester: France (5)

Neely: France (20)

Niamh: Mexico (5)

Kilted: Draw (10)

Scher: France (10)

Snowqueen: Mexico (10)

[Virgil]

ATM:
France vs Mexico:

Paul: Mexico (5)

Lulim: Draw (5)

Virgil: Virgil (10)

Turquoise: Draw (5)

Jester: France (5)

Neely: France (20)

Niamh: Mexico (5)

Kilted: Draw (10)

Scher: France (10)

Snowqueen: Mexico (10)

I know I'm talanted, but I didn't think I could take on both France and Mexico single handed and win. :lol:

[prendrelemick]

C'mon Mek-ki-co by far the better team so far.


Oh look a smilie just for that Uruguayian who kept getting "fouled" last night.:svengo:

[Scheherazade]

I know I'm talanted, but I didn't think I could take on both France and Mexico single handed and win. :lol::D

Don't know... Only yesterday you were claiming to be cool, Virgil.

Time to put your money where your mouth is!
I'm cool, baby, I'm cool. :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA:


Not an impressive match. :-/

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 5

Kilted: 205

Lulim: 80

Mark: Out!

Neely: 65

Niamh: 125

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 98

Pren: 7

Scher: 210

Snowqueen: 110

Turquoise: 50

Virgil: 80


Tomorrow:

Germany vs Serbia

Slovenia vs USA

England vs Algeria

[Jesterhead]

Germany win - 5 crowns

[Lulim]

Germany win 50 Schillers :cornut:

[prendrelemick]

Allez les Blues (they've gone)

If any one has any coin left, put Everything on a draw between Mexico and Uruguay next week. Its a sporting gold-plated cert!

[Paulclem]

France were poor considering the talent they've got. i wonder why he didn't bring Henry on?

Mexico were really good - quick and accurate on the ball. They deserved to win that one.

[prendrelemick]

Time for an accumulator. 7 desperados on Germany, then if I'm still in, 14 allornothings on England

[Paulclem]

Germany vs Serbia - 30 Dahls on Germany

Slovenia vs USA - 10 Dahls on the USA

England vs Algeria - 30 Dahls on England

Ooooh edgy...:lol:

[Niamh]

I am one of many very happy Irish right now! :D

[prendrelemick]

France were poor considering the talent they've got. i wonder why he didn't bring Henry on?

Mexico were really good - quick and accurate on the ball. They deserved to win that one.

South Africa have nothing to be scared of next week.

[LitNetIsGreat]

France were truly awful, obviously all the stories about in-fighting are true then, it was clear that they don't care and can't play as a team and hate each other. The thinking is that the "manager" didn't play Gourcouff because the other players don't like him, they don't talk to him or sit with him at meal times and refuse to pass to him. What a pathetic bunch of babies, bye, bye.


Allez les Blues (they've gone)

If any one has any coin left, put Everything on a draw between Mexico and Uruguay next week. Its a sporting gold-plated cert!

I'm already on it in a way. It's the lowest price I've ever seen for a draw 4/5, I've laid it at that price, but backed a 0-0, the thinking is that if it is 0-0, I get my money back, but if someone scores I'll make a little. Either way a draw is good enough for these to go through so they'll make sure that they do just that. The only thing is that none of these teams will really want to finish second and play Argentina if they can help it.


France were poor considering the talent they've got. i wonder why he didn't bring Henry on?

Mexico were really good - quick and accurate on the ball. They deserved to win that one.

Yes Mexico deserved the win. I think Henry is another one that the manager doesn't like, so no chance there. Notice how he just walked straight off down the tunnel and the reaction of the other players, it is clear that nobody cares in that team. Hopeless pathetic bunch.

England tomorrow!!!

First bet, Germany win 30 Rooney's.

[Niamh]

Germany- 40
Slov v USA- Draw 5
England- 10

[MarkBastable]

If any one has any coin left, put Everything on a draw between Mexico and Uruguay next week. Its a sporting gold-plated cert!



Probably true, but I don't like it. I know I'm a bit of a boy-scout about this kind of thing, but I don't think it's fair to settle for a mutually-advantageous draw. I think they should play to win - play up and play the game, and all that bally rot.

I mean - you know - dash it all - they should at least be sporting, even though they're foreigners.

[LitNetIsGreat]

If any one has any coin left, put Everything on a draw between Mexico and Uruguay next week. Its a sporting gold-plated cert!



Probably true, but I don't like it. I know I'm a bit of a boy-scout about this kind of thing, but I don't think it's fair to settle for a mutually-advantageous draw. I think they should play to win - play up and play the game, and all that bally rot.

I mean - you know - dash it all - they should at least be sporting, even though they're foreigners.

Ah, but you can't trust these Johny foreigners can you? Not made of the old sterner stuff, the old moral fibre and all that sort of thing. Dash them all, I say, we only stick with them because they made some damn fine cheese.

England tomorrow, Heskey hat trick hero, what do we think?

[billl]

I'm betting nothing on a U.S. win tomorrow.

[Virgil]

:D

Don't know... Only yesterday you were claiming to be cool, Virgil.

Time to put your money where your mouth is!


Cool no longer. I had a horrible day yesterday: 0 for three. :sad:

I'm dwindling. I have to up the bets on the no brainers.

Germany to win ~ 40 Rilkes

USA to win ~ 10 Rilkes

England to win ~ 10 Rilkes

[prendrelemick]

Ah, but you can't trust these Johny foreigners can you? Not made of the old sterner stuff, the old moral fibre and all that sort of thing. Dash them all, I say, we only stick with them because they made some damn fine cheese.

England tomorrow, Heskey hat trick hero, what do we think?


To be fair, he deserves his place more than Rooney does after the USA match. I'd pick Robert Green as well.

The new ball is making good players look like clodhoppers. I cant recall seeing so many over hit passes and shots going high and wide. Has there been a goal direct from a free kick on the edge of the area yet? It is usually a feature of the World Cup.

Germany of course, prepared for this and have been using the ball in their league.


Mexican cheese???

[Lulim]

My guesses for the other two matches today:

USA win -- 5 Schillers
England win -- 5 Schillers

[Paulclem]

Mexican cheese - Gorganzola? You remember it was the cheese slice everyone left in the mixed craft cheese triangles range? Everyone wanted the cheese and ham one.

[prendrelemick]

I have spent (wasted) the last 40 years in the belief that Gorganzola was Swiss:lol:

[Lulim]

But Gorgonzola is Italian Cheese. I reckon Neely was talking about French Cheese ...


And oh, did I mention that my stake on a German win is 50 Schillers? ;)

[TurquoiseSunset]

Slovenia vs USA - USA wins (5 muntstukke)
England vs Algeria - England wins (5 muntstukke)
Germany vs Serbia - Germany wins (20 munstukke)

[prendrelemick]

Gawd, I've just spent the last 20 mins in the unshakeable belief that Gorganzola was Mexican

[billl]

Not Mexican? That's a little better, that possibility had been blowing my mind for a while there, too. Actually, I have only tried the Amish Gorganzola--and found it to be fantastic.

[Scheherazade]

Gawd, I've just spent the last 20 mins in the unshakeable belief that Gorganzola was MexicanThis made me laugh.

:D

I am hoping that Uruguay will actually beat Mexico...

And as much as I would like to see an England win, I cannot put my trust in England 100%.

[Paulclem]

Not Mexican? That's a little better, that possibility had been blowing my mind for a while there, too. Actually, I have only tried the Amish Gorganzola--and found it to be fantastic.

I was reliably informed as a child that Gorgonzola was Mexican - no wait it was Speedy Gonzales that was always after it it - hence, logical deduction, gorgonzola = Mexican. Infallible? Come to think of it, it now sounds Italian to me. Like Prend I have been sorely confused in my cheese thinking...

[kilted exile]

Ok here we go:

Germany 80 on a win
USA/Slovenia - 20 on the draw
Algeria/England - 5 on the draw (and a very red face for Wayne " Against Algeria we can not be at our best and win the game" Rooney) On another note I will be watching the england game without commentary after the ridiculously over the top, arrogant analysis ITV provided in the last England game.

[Paulclem]

Gawd, I've just spent the last 20 mins in the unshakeable belief that Gorganzola was Mexican

Blessed are the cheesemakers...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiDmMBIyfsU


Ok here we go:

Germany 80 on a win
USA/Slovenia - 20 on the draw
Algeria/England - 5 on the draw (and a very red face for Wayne " Against Algeria we can not be at our best and win the game" Rooney) On another note I will be watching the england game without commentary after the ridiculously over the top, arrogant analysis ITV provided in the last England game.

You're not wrong - I wish they'd just tell us about the game without the euphoria and the inevitable in game doom and gloom.

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: 5

Kilted: 205

Lulim: 80

Mark: Out!

Neely: 65

Niamh: 125

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 98

Pren: 7

Scher: 210

Snowqueen: 110

Turquoise: 50

Virgil: 80


Germany vs Serbia

Jester: Germany (5)

Lulim: Germany (50)

Pren: Germany (7)

Paul: Germany (30)

Neely: Germany (30)

Niamh: Germany (40)

Virgil: Germany (40)

Turquoise: Germany (20)

Kilted: Germany (80)

Scher: Germany (100)


Ah, but you can't trust these Johny foreigners can you? Not made of the old sterner stuff, the old moral fibre and all that sort of thing. Dash them all, I say, we only stick with them because they made some damn fine cheese.Hey, now!

Just because some foreigners are doing better than you are in the game, there is no need to turn xenophobic.

:svengo:

[papayahed]

At this point I'm rooting for Scher to win the betting...

[LitNetIsGreat]

:lol: Cheese...

Well, I am a little surprised that there is not much support and faith in the English victory that will happen tonight. Algeria are quite, quite awful.
All in please on an English victory Sch, all in please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Taiyci0M6hc :lol:

[Scheherazade]

At this point I'm rooting for Scher to win the betting...Thank you! :D

http://www.margarita-island-venezuela.com/images/FrozenMargarita.jpg
All in please on an English victory Sch, all in please.Yeah, I can see that happening!

Can't believe Khedira's shot hit the post like that! :-/

[Paulclem]

Serbia up 1-0 against germany so far!

[Snowqueen]

Oh I'm feeling sorry for Germany.

[Lulim]

I can't believe that Podolski lost that penalty shot :( What a disappointment

[Snowqueen]

I have a good start, let's see now.

Slov v USA, Draw - 5 Rs

England win - 5 Rs

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: Out!

Kilted: 125

Lulim: 30

Mark: Out!

Neely: 35

Niamh: 85

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 68

Pren: Out!

Scher: 110

Snowqueen: 110

Turquoise: 30

Virgil: 40



Slovenia vs USA

Bill: USA

Lulim: USA (5)

Paul: USA (10)

Neely:

Niamh: Draw (5)

Virgil: USA (10)

Turquoise: USA (5)

Kilted: Draw (20)

Scher: USA (10)

Snowqueen: Draw (5)



Well, knock me down with a feather!

Germany lost against Serbia and missed a penalty...

And don't start me on that referee... :rolleyes:


Anyway, if the USA game follows the recent trend as well, USA will lose 5-0 or something. :-/

[papayahed]

doh! Scher, I jinxed you!

[Virgil]

Aaaacckkkkkk!!!!!! I come in from dinner and I find that Germany lost!!! :svengo::svengo: How could that be???? What happened? I missed it.

And now the US is killing me too. I may be close to being wiped out by the end of the night. Oh the horror. :bawling:

[Scheherazade]

Papaya>Yes! It's all your doing! :p


USA's come back was excellent but not good enough.

Slovenia's first goal was quite good but I missed USA's disallowed goal.

What did you guys think of that?

[billl]

Well, there was no offsides, that was for sure. There was some pushing and shoving, probably four or fives cases of it, but if anyone was fouling, it looked like a Slovenian (or two) would've been the ones to get called for it. The U.S. announcers and post-game analysts saw nothing, and the ref has so far refused to explain what the foul was.

[applepie]

The USA tied it :D While not great, taking into account that they were 2-0 at the first half, I'm pleased enough.

[Scheherazade]

Yeah, just watched a replay and seems like it was the Slovenians who were getting too intimate, actually.

[Virgil]

It was a great comeback and frankly the officiating cost the US a victory. There was nothing wrong with that third goal. We should have won.

WE WAZ ROBBED!!!

[LitNetIsGreat]

Yes I agree, there was nothing wrong with that goal, you was certainly robbed there.

The whole group is up in the air now with that result and the German loss. It is now not a certainty that Germany will finish top of their group. As predicted things are hotting up, we are now seeing plenty of goals as the stakes get raised.

Fancy England strongly against Algeria.

[kilted exile]

Edu(great rangers player)'s goal was perfectly fine but I think overall a draw was a fair result USA were shocking in the first half......

No to the England game - "Calamity" James starts in goal, carragher in defence, barry comes in, and heskey keeps his place.

Zero pace between terry and carragher better keep a fairly deep line

[Lulim]

(...) USA's come back was excellent but not good enough.

Slovenia's first goal was quite good but I missed USA's disallowed goal.

What did you guys think of that?

USA were mighty impressing, and why that goal didn't count will remain the referee's secret forever, I suspect :(

[Virgil]

USA were mighty impressing, and why that goal didn't count will remain the referee's secret forever, I suspect :(

They played a great second half. They don't seem as large as some of the other teams, but they seem very quick. That referee has to answer some questions.

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: Out!

Kilted: 145

Lulim: 25

Mark: Out!

Neely: 35

Niamh: 90

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 58

Pren: Out!

Scher: 100

Snowqueen: 115

Turquoise: 25

Virgil: 30



England vs Algeria

Lulim: England (5)

Paul: England (30)

Neely: England (35)

Niamh: England (10)

Virgil: England (10)

Turquoise: England (5)

Kilted: Draw (5)

Scher: England (50)

Snowqueen: England (5)



I am gambling big on England today. I hope they deliver! :D

[kilted exile]

*gets out algerian flag*

[LitNetIsGreat]

You missed me Sch. I wanted (for some reason) all in England, 35 for the win, thanks.

Though after 25 minutes here, we look awful, but a bet is a bet.

[kilted exile]

england dont look capable of holding onto the ball

[Niamh]

with that line up i wished i'd betted on a draw or Algeria...

[prendrelemick]

We're a bit rubbish tonight!

[kilted exile]

the boogie man has been impressive for algeria maybe this will drive his value up a bit


Can see no positives at all for england in that half

[Scheherazade]

*gets out algerian flag*Now, now, young Kilted!

:D

And England was going to win the Cup this year??? Wondering if they can qualify for the next round now.

:rolleyes:

[prendrelemick]

Halftime team talk

Capello- Mama Mia! we are the team in the white shirts for heavens sake, when you pass the ball pass it to someone in a white shirt!

[kilted exile]

defoe shouldve started - always capable of winning a game

[prendrelemick]

Rooney has done nothing.

The commentators are warming up the "Capello is a poor manager" bandwagon.

[kilted exile]

this really is dreadful - win the world cup? at this rate they'd lose to san marino

[Scheherazade]

ATM:

Bill: Out!

Jester: Out!

Kilted: 150

Lulim: 20

Mark: Out!

Neely: Out!

Niamh: 80

Papaya: Out!

Paul : 28

Pren: Out!

Scher: 50

Snowqueen: 110

Turquoise: 25

Virgil: 20


Tomorrow:

Holland vs Japan

Ghana vs Australia

Cameroon vs Denmark



This was England's at its worst.

Slovenia should beat them next week; hate it that they are already blaming the manager. Just thinking about the amount of money these players get paid...

And that potato sack called Rooney!!! Why did they not take him out??

Crouch should have gone in earlier.

:mad:


I need some more painkillers to deal with my headache after this match.

[kilted exile]

Just seen Rooney's response to the fans - disgraceful should never pull on the shirt again.

[Paulclem]

Bloody 'ell! That must have been the worst game I've watched.

I've lost a few shekels as well.

[Scheherazade]

Just seen Rooney's response to the fans - disgraceful should never pull on the shirt again.Ack! Saw it too just now.

:-/

Reminded me of Beckam's (2002?)...

[Paulclem]

I didn't see it - what did he do?

[kilted exile]

Ack! Saw it too just now.

:-/

Reminded me of Beckam's (2002?)...

reminded me of Ian Ferguson? for scotland after we drew with estonia - some fans had been booing and one player was applauding them for showing up but he was seen to say "dont clap the bleeping bastards"

Paul - was complaining bout the england fans booing "some support, eh?"

[Scheherazade]

He said, "Nice to see your home fans booing you."

To be honest, I thought he said "Boo you!"

(Not that it makes a big difference).

What did he expect the fans do? Congratulations for their lackluster, less than mediocre game?

:mad:

[prendrelemick]

Rooney is our sacred cow. He'll never get dropped even though he was the poorest player on the field tonight.

[Scheherazade]

Rooney is our sacred cow. He'll never get dropped even though he was the poorest player on the field tonight.Why is that?

He does not even seem fit.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Like you lot I am totally disgusted with the result yes, but with the performance and attitude as well, this was nothing more than absolutely appalling.

The team will rightly get slaughted tomorrow in the press, the players and the manager deserve that, and top of the list will be Rooney who dared to slag off the fans over there. What the hell does he expect, applause? Well done you had one shot against Algeria at 30 yards. Algeria who are awful and were a 950/1 shot to win the cup at the start but still were better than England, hopeless. Not happy.

[Scheherazade]

Tomorrow:

Holland vs Japan

Ghana vs Australia

Cameroon vs Denmark

[LitNetIsGreat]

Tomorrow:

Holland vs Japan

Ghana vs Australia

Cameroon vs Denmark

HA!!!

Scher, I don't suppose you could sub a good looking and upset young fella a couple of Lit Net's could you? Scher? Scher? :svengo:

Kilted, I must admit that your predictions have been pretty good, didn't you have the draw here? I was following a chap on a betting forum and he claimed to have laid England for a grand tonight, so he'll be about 4/5 grand up after that result and bragging no doubt.

[Niamh]

you should all feel lucky your team made it to the world cup. Yeah they are playing really badly, but at least they didnt loose out on a chance of being in the world cup because of a cheating french man and his "hand of frog", and looking at the way france are playing currently they shouldnt even be there. :)

[kilted exile]

Kilted, I must admit that your predictions have been pretty good, didn't you have the draw here? I was following a chap on a betting forum and he claimed to have laid England for a grand tonight, so he'll be about 4/5 grand up after that result and bragging no doubt.

Yeah, I had the draw. The problem with England is (and has been for the last 12 years since Gazza left the team) they have no one in the middle of the park who can put his foot on the ball and make good creative passes. Lampard and Gerard are good players but they are not creators - they are energy players who can get forward from midfield to run on to knock downs from headers and fire shots from the edge of the area, but neither are creators of the likes of Fabregas, van der vaart, xavi, who can spot where the ball should go and actually get it there. Barry is a defensive midfielder who makes short simple passes ("water carrier" anyone?)

[Scheherazade]

Scher, I don't suppose you could sub a good looking and upset young fella a couple of Lit Net's could you? Scher? Scher? :svengo:All right.

I can lend you some coins... Say, 10... And you can pay me back 15 as soon as you reach 30.

Do we have a deal?

:D

[LitNetIsGreat]

All right.

I can lend you some coins... Say, 10... And you can pay me back 15 as soon as you reach 30.

Do we have a deal?

:D

Oh, thank you, thank you. I'll pay you back no worries, I've got a couple of certs lined up.

Scher is the best...:angelsad2:

[applepie]

They played a great second half. They don't seem as large as some of the other teams, but they seem very quick. That referee has to answer some questions.

They've done relatively well in the second half in both games I've seen. The first half.... That's a bit of an embarassment, but come one. They're holding their own and when we think of footbal as American Football, not soccer, not half bad I suppose :D

[Snowqueen]

I was expecting a lot better from England, only Gerrard was trying to create chances for his team while rest of the team was invisible.

[Virgil]

Wow, I'm nealy wiped out. Back to back o for 3 days. Should I bet it all on one game or divide it? Problem is that none of today's three seem like sure things. What exactly is a sure thing in this world cup?

[prendrelemick]

I bet on sure things and was wiped out in the first week.!:sad:

Aside from the football, it is entertaining watching neely embarking upon the slippery slope of virtual debt and ruination.:lol: I see a cautionary tale emerging.

[Niamh]

I put 5 on Holland. I'm back to taking small risks.

[billl]

I bet on sure things and was wiped out in the first week.!:sad:


Hey there, newbie. It is the exclamation point at the end that really stings, and it just keeps on stinging as the days pass. Hardly necessary.



Aside from the football, it is entertaining watching neely embarking upon the slippery slope of virtual debt and ruination.:lol: I see a cautionary tale emerging.


Neely early on offered to lend me some of his riches, btw. Imagine how I could have leveraged my suffering with that... For the record, I'd just like everyone to know: I am the only one that has managed perfection in making wrong predictions. Just me.

Think it's easy?

[kilted exile]

ok

60 on holland
30 on ghana
10 on Denmark

[billl]

I'm picking Japan to win.



(just a warning)

[Virgil]

Maybe the moderator can be so kind as to give every one 50 additional coins across the board, including those out, and maybe we can all continue to play?
:nopity:

[billl]

EDIT: mis-typed!