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Ch. 4 - Personal Adventures in the Spiritual World

I do not write what follows with the expectation of
convincing or converting anybody. We Spiritualists, or
Spiritists--we call ourselves both, or either--never ask
anybody to believe us. If they do, well and good. If not,
all right. Our attitude simply is that facts are facts.
There they are; believe them or not as you like. As I
said the other night, in conversation with Aristotle and
John Bunyan and George Washington and a few others, why
should anybody believe us? Aristotle, I recollect, said
that all that he wished was that everybody should know
how happy he was; and Washington said that for his part,
if people only knew how bright and beautiful it all was
where he was, they would willingly, indeed gladly, pay
the mere dollar--itself only a nominal fee--that it cost
to talk to him. Bunyan, I remember, added that he himself
was quite happy.

But, as I say, I never ask anybody to believe me; the
more so as I was once an absolute sceptic myself. As I
see it now, I was prejudiced. The mere fact that spiritual
seances and the services of a medium involved the payment
of money condemned the whole thing in my eyes. I did not
realize, as I do now, that these _medii_, like anybody
else, have got to live; otherwise they would die and
become spirits.

Nor would I now place these disclosures before the public
eyes were if not that I think that in the present crisis
they will prove of value to the Allied cause.

But let me begin at the beginning. My own conversion to
spiritualism came about, like that of so many others,
through the more or less casual remark of a Friend.

Noticing me one day gloomy and depressed, this Friend
remarked to me:

"Have you any belief in Spiritualism?"

Had it come from anyone else, I should have turned the
question aside with a sneer. But it so happens that I
owe a great deal of gratitude to this particular Friend.
It was he who, at a time when I was so afflicted with
rheumatism that I could scarcely leap five feet into the
air without pain, said to me one day quite casually:
"Have you ever tried pyro for your rheumatism?" One month
later I could leap ten feet in the air--had I been able
to--without the slightest malaise. The same man, I may
add, hearing me one day exclaiming to myself: "Oh, if
there were anything that would remove the stains from my
clothes!" said to me very simply and quietly: "Have you
ever washed them in luxo?" It was he, too, who, noticing
a haggard look on my face after breakfast one morning,
inquired immediately what I had been eating for breakfast;
after which, with a simplicity and directness which I
shall never forget, he said: "Why not eat humpo?"

Nor can I ever forget my feeling on another occasion
when, hearing me exclaim aloud: "Oh, if there were only
something invented for removing the proteins and amygdaloids
from a carbonized diet and leaving only the pure nitrogenous
life-giving elements!" seized my hand in his, and said
in a voice thrilled with emotion: "There is! It has!"

The reader will understand, therefore, that a question,
or query, from such a Friend was not to be put lightly
aside. When he asked if I believed in Spiritualism I
answered with perfect courtesy:

"To be quite frank, I do not."

There was silence between us for a time, and then my
Friend said:

"Have you ever given it a trial?"

I paused a moment, as the idea was a novel one.

"No," I answered, "to be quite candid, I have not."

Neither of us spoke for perhaps twenty minutes after
this, when my Friend said:

"Have you anything against it?"

I thought awhile and then I said:

"Yes, I have."

My Friend remained silent for perhaps half an hour. Then
he asked:


I meditated for some time. Then I said:

"This--it seems to me that the whole thing is done for
money. How utterly unnatural it is to call up the
dead--one's great-grandfather, let us say--and pay money
for talking to him."

"Precisely," said my Friend without a moment's pause. "I
thought so. Now suppose I could bring you into contact
with the spirit world through a medium, or through
different _medii_, without there being any question of
money, other than a merely nominal fee, the money being,
as it were, left out of count, and regarded as only, so
to speak, nominal, something given merely _pro forma_
and _ad interim_. Under these circumstances, will you
try the experiment?"

I rose and took my Friend's hand."

"My dear fellow," I said, "I not only will, but I shall."

From this conversation dated my connection with
Spiritualism, which has since opened for me a new world.

It would be out of place for me to indicate the particular
address or the particular methods employed by the agency
to which my Friend introduced me. I am anxious to avoid
anything approaching a commercial tinge in what I write.
Moreover, their advertisement can be seen along with many
others--all, I am sure, just as honourable and just as
trustworthy--in the columns of any daily newspaper. As
everybody knows, many methods are employed. The tapping
of a table, the movement of a ouija board, or the voice
of a trance medium, are only a few among the many devices
by which the spirits now enter into communication with
us. But in my own case the method used was not only
simplicity itself, but was so framed as to carry with it
the proof of its own genuineness. One had merely to speak
into the receiver of a telephone, and the voice of the
spirit was heard through the transmitter as in an ordinary
telephone conversation.

It was only natural, after the scoffing remark that I
had made, that I should begin with my great-grandfather.
Nor can I ever forget the peculiar thrill that went
through me when I was informed by the head of the agency
that a tracer was being sent out for Great-grandfather
to call him to the phone.

Great-grandfather--let me do him this justice--was prompt.
He was there in three minutes. Whatever his line of
business was in the spirit world--and I was never able
to learn it--he must have left it immediately and hurried
to the telephone. Whatever later dissatisfaction I may
have had with Great-grandfather, let me state it fairly
and honestly, he is at least a punctual man. Every time
I called he came right away without delay. Let those who
are inclined to cavil at the methods of the Spiritualists
reflect how impossible it would be to secure such
punctuality on anything but a basis of absolute honesty.

In my first conversation with Great-grandfather, I found
myself so absurdly nervous at the thought of the vast
gulf of space and time across which we were speaking that
I perhaps framed my questions somewhat too crudely.

"How are you, great-grandfather?" I asked.

His voice came back to me as distinctly as if he were in
the next room:

"I am happy, very happy. Please tell everybody that I am

"Great-grandfather," I said. "I will. I'll see that
everybody knows it. Where are you, great-grandfather?"

"Here," he answered, "beyond."

"Beyond what?"

"Here on the other side."

"Side of which?" I asked.

"Of the great vastness," he answered. "The other end of
the Illimitable."

"Oh, I see," I said, "that's where you are."

We were silent for some time. It is amazing how difficult
it is to find things to talk about with one's
great-grandfather. For the life of me I could think of
nothing better than:

"What sort of weather have you been having?"

"There is no weather here," said Great-grandfather. "It's
all bright and beautiful all the time."

"You mean bright sunshine?" I said.

"There is no sun here," said Great-grandfather.

"Then how do you mean--" I began.

But at this moment the head of the agency tapped me on
the shoulder to remind me that the two minutes' conversation
for which I had deposited, as a nominal fee, five dollars,
had expired. The agency was courteous enough to inform
me that for five dollars more Great-grandfather would
talk another two minutes.

But I thought it preferable to stop for the moment.

Now I do not wish to say a word against my own
great-grandfather. Yet in the conversations which followed
on successive days I found him--how shall I put it?
--unsatisfactory. He had been, when on this side--to use
the term we Spiritualists prefer--a singularly able man,
an English judge; so at least I have always been given
to understand. But somehow Great-grandfather's brain, on
the other side, seemed to have got badly damaged. My
own theory is that, living always in the bright sunshine,
he had got sunstroke. But I may wrong him. Perhaps it
was locomotor ataxy that he had. That he was very, very
happy where he was is beyond all doubt. He said so at
every conversation. But I have noticed that feeble-minded
people are often happy. He said, too, that he was glad
to be where he was; and on the whole I felt glad that he
was too. Once or twice I thought that possibly
Great-grandfather felt so happy because he had been
drinking: his voice, even across the great gulf, seemed
somehow to suggest it. But on being questioned he told
me that where he was there was no drink and no thirst,
because it was all so bright and beautiful. I asked him
if he meant that it was "bone-dry" like Kansas, or whether
the rich could still get it? But he didn't answer.

Our intercourse ended in a quarrel. No doubt it was my
fault. But it _did_ seem to me that Great-grandfather,
who had been one of the greatest English lawyers of his
day, might have handed out an opinion.

The matter came up thus: I had had an argument--it was
in the middle of last winter--with some men at my club
about the legal interpretation of the Adamson Law. The
dispute grew bitter.

"I'm right," I said, "and I'll prove it if you give me
time to consult the authorities."

"Consult your great-grandfather!" sneered one of the men.

"All right," I said, "I will."

I walked straight across the room to the telephone and
called up the agency.

"Give me my great-grandfather," I said. "I want him right

He was there. Good, punctual old soul, I'll say that for
him. He was there.

"Great-grandfather," I said, "I'm in a discussion here
about the constitutionality of the Adamson Law, involving
the power of Congress under the Constitution. Now, you
remember the Constitution when they made it. Is the law
all right?"

There was silence.

"How does it stand, great-grandfather?" I said. "Will it
hold water?"

Then he spoke.

"Over here," he said, "there are no laws, no members of
Congress and no Adamsons; it's all bright and beautiful

"Great-grandfather," I said, as I hung up the receiver
in disgust, "you are a Mutt!"

I never spoke to him again. Yet I feel sorry for him,
feeble old soul, flitting about in the Illimitable, and
always so punctual to hurry to the telephone, so happy,
so feeble-witted and courteous; a better man, perhaps,
take it all in all, than he was in life; lonely, too, it
may be, out there in the Vastness. Yet I never called
him up again. He is happy. Let him stay.

Indeed, my acquaintance with the spirit world might have
ended at that point but for the good offices, once more,
of my Friend.

"You find your great-grandfather a little slow, a little
dull?" he said. "Well, then, if you want brains, power,
energy, why not call up some of the spirits of the great
men, some of the leading men, for instance, of your
great-grandfather's time?"

"You've said it!" I exclaimed. "I'll call up Napoleon

I hurried to the agency.

"Is it possible," I asked, "for me to call up the Emperor
Napoleon and talk to him?"

Possible? Certainly. It appeared that nothing was easier.
In the case of Napoleon Bonaparte the nominal fee had to
be ten dollars in place of five; but it seemed to me
that, if Great-grandfather cost five, Napoleon Bonaparte
at ten was cheapness itself.

"Will it take long to get him?" I asked anxiously.

"We'll send out a tracer for him right away," they said.

Like Great-grandfather, Napoleon was punctual. That I
will say for him. If in any way I think less of Napoleon
Bonaparte now than I did, let me at least admit that a
more punctual, obliging, willing man I never talked with.

He came in two minutes.

"He's on the line now," they said.

I took up the receiver, trembling.

"Hello!" I called. "Est-ce que c'est l'Empereur Napoleon
a qui j'ai l'honneur de parler?"

"How's that?" said Napoleon.

"Je demande si je suis en communication avec l'Empereur

"Oh," said Napoleon, "that's all right; speak English."

"What!" I said in surprise. "You know English? I always
thought you couldn't speak a word of it."

He was silent for a minute. Then he said:

"I picked it up over here. It's all right. Go right ahead."

"Well," I continued, "I've always admired you so much,
your wonderful brain and genius, that I felt I wanted to
speak to you and ask you how you are."

"Happy," said Napoleon, "very happy."

"That's good," I said. "That's fine! And how is it out
there? All bright and beautiful, eh?"

"Very beautiful," said the Emperor.

"And just where are you?" I continued. "Somewhere out in
the Unspeakable, I suppose, eh?"

"Yes," he answered, "out here beyond."

"That's good," I said. "Pretty happy, eh?"

"Very happy," said Napoleon. "Tell everybody how happy
I am."

"I know," I answered. "I'll tell them all. But just now
I've a particular thing to ask. We've got a big war on,
pretty well the whole world in it, and I thought perhaps
a few pointers from a man like you--"

But at this point the attendant touched me on the shoulder.
"Your time is up," he said.

I was about to offer to pay at once for two minutes more
when a better idea struck me. Talk with Napoleon? I'd do
better than that. I'd call a whole War Council of great
spirits, lay the war crisis before them and get the
biggest brains that the world ever produced to work on
how to win the war.

Who should I have? Let me see! Napoleon himself, of
course. I'd bring him back. And for the sea business,
the submarine problem, I'd have Nelson. George Washington,
naturally, for the American end; for politics, say, good
old Ben Franklin, the wisest old head that ever walked
on American legs, and witty too; yes, Franklin certainly,
if only for his wit to keep the council from getting
gloomy; Lincoln--honest old Abe--him certainly I must
have. Those and perhaps a few others.

I reckoned that a consultation at ten dollars apiece with
spirits of that class was cheap to the verge of the
ludicrous. Their advice ought to be worth millions--yes,
billions--to the cause.

The agency got them for me without trouble. There is no
doubt they are a punctual crowd, over there beyond in
the Unthinkable.

I gathered them all in and talked to them, all and
severally, the payment, a merely nominal matter, being
made, _pro forma_, in advance.

I have in front of me in my rough notes the result of
their advice. When properly drafted it will be, I feel
sure, one of the most important state documents produced
in the war.

In the personal sense--I have to admit it--I found them
just a trifle disappointing. Franklin, poor fellow, has
apparently lost his wit. The spirit of Lincoln seemed to
me to have none of that homely wisdom that he used to
have. And it appears that we were quite mistaken in
thinking Disraeli a brilliant man; it is clear to me now
that he was dull--just about as dull as Great-grandfather,
I should say. Washington, too, is not at all the kind of
man we thought him.

Still, these are only personal impressions. They detract
nothing from the extraordinary value of the advice given,
which seems to me to settle once and for ever any lingering
doubt about the value of communications with the Other Side.

My draft of their advice runs in part as follows:

The Spirit of Nelson, on being questioned on the submarine
problem, holds that if all the men on the submarines were
where he is everything would be bright and happy. This
seems to me an invaluable hint. There is nothing needed
now except to put them there.

The advice of the Spirit of Napoleon about the campaign
on land seemed to me, if possible, of lower value than
that of Nelson on the campaign at sea. It is hardly
conceivable that Napoleon has forgotten where the Marne
is. But it may have changed since his day. At any rate,
he says that, if ever the Russians cross the Marne, all
is over. Coming from such a master-strategist, this ought
to be attended to.

Franklin, on being asked whether the United States had
done right in going into the war, said "Yes"; asked
whether the country could with honour have stayed out,
he said "No." There is guidance here for thinking men of
all ranks.

Lincoln is very happy where he is. So, too, I was amazed
to find, is Disraeli. In fact, it was most gratifying to
learn that all of the great spirits consulted are very
happy, and want everybody to know how happy they are.
Where they are, I may say, it is all bright and beautiful.

Fear of trespassing on their time prevented me from
questioning each of them up to the full limit of the
period contracted for.

I understand that I have still to my credit at the agency
five minutes' talk with Napoleon, available at any time,
and similarly five minutes each with Franklin and
Washington, to say nothing of ten minutes' unexpired time
with Great-grandfather.

All of these opportunities I am willing to dispose of at
a reduced rate to anyone still sceptical of the reality
of the spirit world.

Stephen Leacock