[QUOTE=The Comedian;875403]This is a thread truly suited to the serious discussion forum. I can only anticipate more of the kind.
The oceans are really comprised entirely of CAT PISS! QUOTE]
That may be debatable but that all German beer made under license in the UK is similarly comprised most certainly isn't.
You can 'witness' the rotation of the Earth ? Wow !! Where ? On TV perhaps ?
Can you witness the 1,000 mph movement of the sea (west to east) in the ocean at the Equator ? Since I can provide tons of evidence that the ocean there is NOT moving at 1,000 mph.
Awaiting your evidence for both.
Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC
No amount of evidence would suit you. You would discredit any of it, just like any of us would who do not have faith in the evidence.
The creationists discredit the evidences provided by the evolutionists.
The evolutionists discredit the evidences provided by the creationists.
I have no faith in your so-called evidence, and you will without any doubt discredit anything that i could produce. So, I'm not playing your game. My response was to Mark, who I find to be more reasonable to argue with than you (yeah, really....go figure!!)...
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
Bienvenu,
Here, as promised, is some evidence. Can you match this with measurements of the speed of the ocean being close to 1,000 mph at equatorial latitudes ?
Here is a map and description of the South Equatorial Currents (SSEC) - from which you can read for yourself -
''The SSEC is a broad sluggish flow with an average westward surface speed of 11.3 cm s-1. The highest average surface velocities were found between 9° and 10°S reaching 16.4 cm s-1.''
A small problem for your dogma, you may agree ? But hey, these are only documented measurements. They should in no way challenge your dogmas, of course !!! The idea that actual measurements, and verified readings should influence you is, of course, ridiculous ! Science doesn't work like that, does it ?
LOL !!!
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=uk
Last edited by Musicology; 04-07-2010 at 05:17 PM.
1) the link doesn't work...
2) what is it supposed to prove?
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
Here it is again -
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=uk
Don't be ridiculous.
Dinosaurs are an invention of evolutionists to try to refute the creation of earth by a god.
Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."
Anon
Why would creationists have a problem with dinosaurs? Maybe evolutionists interpretation of the information...yes, but not dinosaurs...
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
Thought they were an invention of Hollywood, starting with "The Flintstones":
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"It is not that I am mad; it is only that my head is different from yours.”
~
This thread is on the subject of 'The Earth is Fixed in Space'.
So, you have agreed that the Sun has an orbit of 24 hours round the earth.
Tell me how it is then possible that the moon has not more than 3 phases every night? Or, if the moon also has an orbit of 24 hours, not more than 1 phase ever?
The Sun, in order to have an orbit of 24 hours, would have to cross the moon at least once a day if the moon has an orbit of 28 days. That would mean that the moon would not be visible for about 14 days of the month, as it would be on the other side of the earth than where one is standing. It would also mean that it would permanently stay in the sky, on the same spot, all day and all night if it was visible. Which is clearly not the case as it comes up and goes down again during the day/night (mainly).
This would also mean that at least 14 times a month there would a total or partial eclipse of the sun. That is clearly not the case. or is it every month so.
If it has an orbit of 24 hours and moves at the same pace as the sun, it would have always the same phase as the sun would always be in the same spot in relation to the moon, which is clearly also not backed up by things one can see.
This model would mean that a total or partial eclipse would equally happen at a regular frequency. This is clearly also not the case.
Conclusion:
Unless the moon has a light bulb in it, it cannot generate light but by reflecting the light of the sun. The light of the sun can only be reflected in certain patterns if that is mathemetically possible. The earth which is fixed in space does not provide such a possibility as clearly shown above.
Conclusion 2:
The geocentric theory is total nonsense as it does not even back up that one simple thing we can see in the sky every night. The earth cannot stand still for the arguments above.
One can turn it how one wants, it is impossible.
One has to laugh before being happy, because otherwise one risks to die before having laughed.
"Je crains [...] que l'âme ne se vide à ces passe-temps vains, et que le fin du fin ne soit la fin des fins." (Edmond Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac, Acte III, Scène VII)
So -
Bienvenu,
Here, as promised, is some evidence. Can you match this with measurements of the speed of the ocean being close to 1,000 mph at equatorial latitudes ?
Here is a map and description of the South Equatorial Currents (SSEC) - from which you can read for yourself -
''The SSEC is a broad sluggish flow with an average westward surface speed of 11.3 cm s-1. The highest average surface velocities were found between 9° and 10°S reaching 16.4 cm s-1.''
A small problem for your dogma, you may agree ? But hey, these are only documented oceanographic measurements. They should in no way challenge your dogmas, of course !!! The idea that real measurements, and verified readings should influence you is, of course, ridiculous ! 'Science' doesn't work like that, does it ?
LOL !!!
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=uk
Déjà-vu
Do you believe this gets any more convincing by endlessly repeating it?
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.
To keep our faces toward change and behave like free spirits
in the presence of fate is strength undefeatable.”
Helen Keller
Lulim,
It may not be for you but here is another - do yourself the compliment of considering other points of view. Because, so far, your dogmas are a complete nonsense. And it goes on page after page. A wise person considers criticism. And a dogmatist ignores it.
http://www.fixedearth.com/subject_ar...ect_area_1.htm
http://www.fixedearth.com/knowledge%20impact.htm
Thank You
Last edited by Musicology; 04-07-2010 at 05:56 PM.
Yeah, I know. Creationists tend to claim that they were just left off the Ark and only lived 6000 years ago.
To me, that's tantamount to denying their existence.
No, it's moved well into the realms of comedy.
Your "evidence" is simply a list of ever more absurd attempts to use a set of rules of physics that you make up from your own imagination.
Seriously, asking why the oceans don't have currents moving in accordance with the spinning of the earth is just lunacy, because you can prove that your hypothesis is bunkum as simply as taking a train and jumping while train is in motion.
You will not be carried backwards and slam into the back wall.
Give it a go.
But please, don't try to get anyone to take you, your attempts at evidence, or this thread, seriously.
Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."
Anon
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