Mark,
You therefore believe the clouds above our heads are rotating with the Earth at around the same speed as the Earth itself below them.
Yes or No ?
I will then answer your question.
Mark,
You therefore believe the clouds above our heads are rotating with the Earth at around the same speed as the Earth itself below them.
Yes or No ?
I will then answer your question.
The answer is simple for you: you refuse to answer the question because you cannot. Or you refuse to answer it because you are afraid that the answer is as it is and that geocentrism does not apply.
So you continuously evade answering.
Can you finally answer my question about the phases of the moon and the planets as you are so clever?
You are constantly going to be reminded of your ignorance, I am sorry.
One has to laugh before being happy, because otherwise one risks to die before having laughed.
"Je crains [...] que l'âme ne se vide à ces passe-temps vains, et que le fin du fin ne soit la fin des fins." (Edmond Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac, Acte III, Scène VII)
Yes. Now - before you get to your next point - answer my question.Originally Posted by Musicology
Not so fast Mark !
If the clouds above us are rotating at approximately the same speed as the Earth below them your colleague's answer of 2 hours is a nonsense. Isn't it ?
A 1,000 mile long cloud would, if rotating at around the same time as the Earth below, also be rotating at around 1,000 mph. Would it not ? According to your own belief. Thus, if a plane enters a 1,000 mile long cloud cloud headed in the direct opposite direction to that rotation travelling at 500 mph, it would within that same hour, emerge from the other side of that cloud, even if the plane stood still in the air. But it, the plane is travelling at 500 mph. Thus, the plane must be free of that cloud in far less than 1 hour. A fact you must surely agree to. Such is the cost of your bizzare belief about clouds and the alleged rotation of the Earth !
Since this is a clear example of the nonsense your education so obviously produces, I will leave it here as a monument to your 'education' and that of your colleague and will gladly answer your own question. But not before offering you again, even at this moment of your confusion, a final chance to rescue your education. Have you nothing more to say on the subject of the Earth's atmosphere in respect of the alleged rotation of the Earth ?
If not, then I rest my case.
You reneged on the deal.You therefore believe the clouds above our heads are rotating with the Earth at around the same speed as the Earth itself below them.
Yes or No ?
I will then answer your question.
No, I have not reneged on the 'deal'. You may, if honest, admit that you and your colleague are in total confusion in respect of this issue of the Earth and its atmosphere allegedly revolving at around 1,000 mph. But if you cannot admit to this fact, fine. I give you a final chance to admit to it. But if you cannot do this it remains the outcome of that discussion for all to see. So, which is it to be, my attempted answer to your question or your honest admission on the subject of my own ? Common sense says you deserve one last chance to be honest. After which I must keep my word and answer your own (later) question.
I answered 'yes'.You therefore believe the clouds above our heads are rotating with the Earth at around the same speed as the Earth itself below them.
Yes or No ?
I will then answer your question.
You did not then answer my question.
You reneged.
You answered 'yes', but you cannot deny you are answering yes to a nonsense of your own invention. And that of your colleague. Since a plane travelling 500 mph into a 1,000 mile long cloud cannot emerge from the other side in 2 hours if the cloud is itself travelling in the directly opposite direction at nearly 1,000 mph.
Right or wrong - I answered.You therefore believe the clouds above our heads are rotating with the Earth at around the same speed as the Earth itself below them.
Yes or No ?
I will then answer your question.
You reneged.
No, I have not reneged. I have twice, in the last 30 minutes, asked you to admit the nonsense of your answer and that of your colleague with whom you say you agree. Do so and I will gladly move on to the later subject of your own question to me.
That is a very straightforward proposition. I answered. You did not then do what you said you would do.You therefore believe the clouds above our heads are rotating with the Earth at around the same speed as the Earth itself below them.
Yes or No ?
I will then answer your question.
Mark Bastable,
Kiki seems to have abandoned you with the baby and has left the building. I will not rub your nose in to the problem but will, as a compromise, say nothing more of clouds, the alleged rotation of the Earth, of its atmosphere, nor anything of banners in trains. So that we can both withdraw with some dignity - you with your beliefs and me with mine.
Regards
No. Answer the question as you promised you would.
Since this thread is on the 'The Earth is FIXED in Space' and since you cannot admit to making a complete 'pig's ear' of the subject (and your colleague) it would be pointless to proceed to your question unless/until we fairly and honestly agree to conclude on the subject already under discussion. Unless, of course, you have more information on it to offer.
We close one subject before we start another. Or else one nonsense becomes another.
The point of conversation is to exchange views, and, having done so, agree we have learned in the process. I am not convinced you or Kiki have learned anything except, perhaps, the absurdity of your 'education'. This, however, is not admitted to by you or your colleague and you wish to fly away to another question not directly related to this thread. It is in this context I wish to summarise our discussion on this first (and relevant) question before proceeding as promised to the (irrelevant) second.
Last edited by Musicology; 04-03-2010 at 07:13 AM.
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