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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximilianus View Post
    It's an interesting theory
    Thank you.
    I'm already getting sick of the idea though. I must make a new one.

    I feel like arguing that the world is flat. I'm sure if you tilt your head and squint your eyes a little, it might be...

    Oh yea. My RE teacher told me today that before the Medieval era, people did think the world was round. In the Creation Story they said it was a dome. In about 600BC some Greek guy proved it as well, even though some did not believe him. All that brought me to think was, 'weren't the Medieval people a bunch of twits?' I mean, religion was all they had and if you didn't believe it, well, in England and a few other parts of Europe, you'd be pretty much killed. So, I am actually incredibly curious, how in this whole flat world did they mess it up?
    For I have known them all already, known them all:
    Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,
    I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;
    I know the voices dying with a dying fall
    Beneath the music from a farther room.

    So how should I presume?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathcliff View Post
    Oh yea. My RE teacher told me today that before the Medieval era, people did think the world was round. In the Creation Story they said it was a dome. In about 600BC some Greek guy proved it as well, even though some did not believe him. All that brought me to think was, 'weren't the Medieval people a bunch of twits?' I mean, religion was all they had and if you didn't believe it, well, in England and a few other parts of Europe, you'd be pretty much killed. So, I am actually incredibly curious, how in this whole flat world did they mess it up?
    There is a passage in Isaiah that mentions the "circle of the earth"...which the Hebrew word could also be translated...sphere...

    hmmm....interesting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    There is a passage in Isaiah that mentions the "circle of the earth"...which the Hebrew word could also be translated...sphere...

    hmmm....interesting...
    Yep, very interesting. Only thing I don't understand is how everyone came to be such a bunch of twits.
    They'd already found a religious and scientific explanation, what more did they want?
    Ah well, a lot of the people in history were absolulte twits anyway...
    For I have known them all already, known them all:
    Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,
    I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;
    I know the voices dying with a dying fall
    Beneath the music from a farther room.

    So how should I presume?
    Eliot

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    That is what happens when knowledge is controlled. It was called the Dark Ages for a reason. It's about like this Global Warming scare that the media is currently not exposing as the farce that it is.
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    Everyone gave up in Dark Ages. Like, God was cursing them by giving them the plague and wiping out two-thirds of Europe. Of course, nowadays, we know it was fleas and rats, but I guess it made people think that is God wan't helping them then he was wrong about the shape of the world. Hehe. Weird thing for them to suddenly change their mind about. I'm sure there was a gap in continuity somewhere, but I can't believe they just suddenly decided on something as extreme as the entire world. It is just so weird...

    You don't believe global warming? I believe it is happening, but I don't care all too much.
    For I have known them all already, known them all:
    Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,
    I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;
    I know the voices dying with a dying fall
    Beneath the music from a farther room.

    So how should I presume?
    Eliot

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    If there is any show that is corrupting our society, it is 24. The fact that our young people get so excited and say things like "Jack's a badass" when he's torturing the "bad guys", makes me worried and sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielBenoit View Post
    If there is any show that is corrupting our society, it is 24. The fact that our young people get so excited and say things like "Jack's a badass" when he's torturing the "bad guys", makes me worried and sick.
    The scary thing is that Keither Sutherland's grandfather founded Canada's largest socialist democratic party and pushed forward universal health care in Canada.

    It horrifies me that such a hack is related to one of the most important political figures in Canadian history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanPip View Post
    The scary thing is that Keither Sutherland's grandfather founded Canada's largest socialist democratic party and pushed forward universal health care in Canada.

    It horrifies me that such a hack is related to one of the most important political figures in Canadian history.
    Ugh I know. He's a good actor, but the show clearly has fascist undertones. My sister was watching the most recent episode and Jack was threatening this suicide bomber (who had locked himself in a safe and was threatening to explode) that he will kill his innocent mother unless he surrenders himself. My sister and her boyfriend were just cheering him on because he was such a "badass" even though that is completely against the policy's of the FBI and human rights in general.

    Yeah, so I suppose we can just say "to hell with human dignity and rights" when it comes to war and terrorists. What's the point of having the law anyway?

    Of course this is only a stupid TV show, but it was certainly settled into the minds of many Americans as an accurate representation of reality. I mean, if you have a show that fictionally presents a proof of the "ticking time-bomb" scenario thrown in with gruesome scenes of torture in which the "hero" remains unaffected, all this once every week, the American public is bound to begin to believe it.

    I great many people in my family sadly see Islam as nothing more than a bunch of hateful suicide bombers that want to kill all infidels. With distorting media portrayal by news organizations and television shows like 24, it's no wonder.

    All and all, Jack Bauer is either one of the fakest characters in the history of television, or one of the most psychopathic. For how can any sane human being bring themselves to do the things he does and still stay cool, calm and collected without being psychotic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielBenoit View Post
    For how can any sane human being bring themselves to do the things he does and still stay cool, calm and collected without being psychotic?
    Professionalism.
    Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better, it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Professionalism.
    Oh so I guess all it takes is good ole' "professionalism" to torture people with a clear conscience?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielBenoit View Post
    Oh so I guess all it takes is good ole' "professionalism" to torture people with a clear conscience?
    Yup! To elaborate: it's his job. It's pretty safe to assume he thinks he's doing the right thing. When you think you're doing the right thing, it's pretty easy to justify a lot of things (whether they are right or not).
    Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better, it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Yup! To elaborate: it's his job. It's pretty safe to assume he thinks he's doing the right thing. When you think you're doing the right thing, it's pretty easy to justify a lot of things (whether they are right or not).
    But that's not proffesionalism, it's tyranny. Of course he thinks he's doing the right thing, just as soldiers in war do, but that becomes irrelevant when the grotesque horrors of their field reach them. Why else is it that so many soldiers suffer from shell-shock? either that, or they become so-hardened that they must create a disregard for human life in order to fulfill their job. I don't believe any sane human being can torture someone and believe that they are doing the right thing, or even have any sense of morality at all. But don't take my word for it, take Joe Navorro's, one of the FBI's top interrogation experts "Only a psychopath can torture and be unaffected. You don’t want people like that in your organization. They are untrustworthy, and tend to have grotesque other problems."

    If I can convince myself that I am right in stealing, maybe even murdering, I can get away with it for some time, but eventually ones conscience catches up to them. Just look at Raskilnikov from Crime and Punishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielBenoit View Post
    If I can convince myself that I am right in stealing, maybe even murdering, I can get away with it for some time, but eventually ones conscience catches up to them. Just look at Raskilnikov from Crime and Punishment.
    All I'm saying is that people can justify a lot of things to themselves. Paul Tibbets went to his grave believing he did precisely the right thing in dropping the bomb on Hiroshima.
    Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better, it's not.

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