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02-20-2010, 09:02 AM
#481
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02-20-2010, 12:21 PM
#482

Originally Posted by
Musicology
Yanni,
I cannot write on tennis, brain surgery or electronics. Since I've little knowledge of any of those things.
I focus on musicology
Why let your obvious political talent be wasted along with your excellent musicology broths Robert?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnx2CpKtnDk
Last edited by yanni; 02-20-2010 at 01:01 PM.
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02-20-2010, 05:10 PM
#483
Yanni,
The only waste would be to divert our attention from the subject of this thread which is, as you know, 'The Manufacture of Mozart'. Perhaps THERE'S the politics, Yanni ? But 200 years of obfuscation, invention and fiction are not removed in a day, or even a few days, are they Yanni ?
Some music from the kind hearted, generous, open minded and free spirited people of Greece -
Opa ! Opa ! The friendly people of Greece.
Greek Dance Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxqEQOb5Azs

Originally Posted by
yanni
Last edited by Musicology; 02-20-2010 at 05:34 PM.
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02-21-2010, 02:12 AM
#484
The Black and White Mozart Show.
(Le Chevalier de Saint George, the "Black Mozart", a pupil of "Gossec" as well).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvSYa...eature=related
Last edited by yanni; 02-21-2010 at 02:20 AM.
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02-21-2010, 04:04 AM
#485
Alternatively, here is an article on Rousseau and his influence on theology by one of the most prominent 20th cent theologists, Karl Barth:
http://intellectusfidei.blogspot.com...-rousseau.html
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02-21-2010, 06:40 AM
#486
Ah, yes ! And the Caribbean islands were disputed by both France and Britain in the 18th century. (Including Guadeloupe where St. George came from). From 1759 to 1763 that island was in the hands of the British colonialists (i.e. during the time of St George's early childhood). The island finally ending up in the hands of the French. Yet another example of the East India Companies and their role in the history of music. St. George's father was in fact an estate holder on the island of Gaudeloupe.
It's surprising how people say, 'Ah, but that is Mozart's style. When, in fact, the style we know as 'Mozart' belonged to numerous composers although they and their music are virtually unknown today.
As for Gossec, well, (cough, cough !) he was involved in the careers of both St Germain and Mozart. Indeed, the 'Mozart Requiem' is built on the design of Gossec. And Gossec (like so many of the first professors of the Paris Conservatory of Music) had a role in the music of Mozart, and even of Beethoven.
Chevalier de St George. Chevalier Mozart. etc.

Originally Posted by
yanni
Last edited by Musicology; 02-21-2010 at 08:02 AM.
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02-21-2010, 06:51 AM
#487
Yes, Karl Barth is noted for his writings on Mozart. As for theology, I always think the Reformation can be compared to a great train that has passed through a now derelict station. We were either on that train or we were not. (I am glad many were). Besides, theology is what man thinks about God while the Bible is what God thinks about man. One is static while the other is dynamic. And which, to me, exposes the silliness of dogmatic conservatistism. There is a season for everything. As for the others, they are still analysing the platform and the ticket office !

Originally Posted by
yanni
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02-21-2010, 07:05 AM
#488
What would Dalai Lama have to say on this matter, I wonder!


Originally Posted by
Musicology
....the Bible is what God thinks about man. One is static while the other is dynamic....
Last edited by yanni; 02-21-2010 at 07:29 AM.
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02-21-2010, 07:49 AM
#489
'Le Nozze di Figaro'
English Baroque and Soloists
Gardiner
Cosa Sento
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43Tyq...eature=related
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02-21-2010, 08:04 AM
#490
As a philosophy Buddhism is interesting. But it is not and never has been a religion. Has it ?

Originally Posted by
yanni
What would Dalai Lama have to say on this matter, I wonder!

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02-21-2010, 11:08 AM
#491
Well, Buddha certainly was a philosophe honest and enlightened enough to avoid preaching his doctrines pretending to be God himself speaking.
And buddhists are still kind enough not to laugh openly at those who do preach such primitive notions.
(I am not a buddhist)

Originally Posted by
Musicology
As a philosophy Buddhism is interesting. But it is not and never has been a religion. Has it ?
Last edited by yanni; 02-21-2010 at 12:32 PM.
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02-21-2010, 01:41 PM
#492
Yes, that's right.
Meanwhile, back at the manufacture of Mozart.....
Rgds

Originally Posted by
yanni
Well, Buddha certainly was a philosophe honest and enlightened enough to avoid preaching his doctrines pretending to be God himself speaking.
And buddhists are still kind enough not to laugh openly at those who do preach such primitive notions.

(I am not a buddhist)
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02-22-2010, 02:34 AM
#493

Originally Posted by
Musicology
Yes, that's right.
Meanwhile, back at the manufacture of Mozart.....
Rgds
Further to your valuable continuous input, Robert, the Mozart manufacture subject has closed successfully.
For our mutual benefit therefore I suggest we concentrate hereafter on evaluating the new music of last opera hit, Gluck's Le Cinesi (revised), staged simultaneously in Peking, New York and Athens as from December last and still continuing with great success.
Maestro's Sax selection of primadona, Mme Papandreckulla from Transylvania , has truly enchanted the Peking audience in particular. At a discount of about 10%, tickets worth some 50 billion US dollars (equivalent) have already been sold there.
An amazing performance!

Cheers!
Last edited by yanni; 02-22-2010 at 07:37 AM.
Reason: spelling and origins of primadona Papandreckulla
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02-22-2010, 10:52 AM
#494
OK Yanni,
Thanks for your input. And for that of others.
Ralph Vaughan Williams
'The Lark Ascending'
(Excerpt)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-J39...eature=related
- conclusion -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5HhL...eature=related
Last edited by Musicology; 02-22-2010 at 10:57 AM.
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02-24-2010, 03:56 AM
#495
If you don't mind, I would rather "end Mozart" with oboe:
How about this little piece by youknowwho-"Cimarosa" aka "Casanova" (aka "Giuseppe Maria Diodatti" too. For his detailed biography see http://www.classicsonline.com/compos...Maria_Diodati/):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHv74dxSYSU
Last edited by yanni; 02-24-2010 at 06:34 AM.
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