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    Quote Originally Posted by Jermac View Post
    Sometimes I think there should be a one-year moratorium on all recorded songs. For one year, no songs can be recorded. There are too many being recorded as it is.
    Whatever made you think that they were songs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathcliff View Post
    Then again, if it is a poem and not a song, you can have these massive, long lines, then some short ones. Only hard part is that it has to flow somehow, so at least some of them must be to a corresponding length.
    I think there's more use of internal rhymes etc. I agree that there has to be a flow. I suppose there's more options for mimicking real speech, the conscious flow of thoughts or significant pausing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulclem View Post
    I think there's more use of internal rhymes etc. I agree that there has to be a flow. I suppose there's more options for mimicking real speech, the conscious flow of thoughts or significant pausing.
    There would have to be. I'm still stuck on my theory that lymrics are already songs. Also, I think Nursery Rhymes can be considered both. 'Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep', have you heard that one? I've never heard that without chords and pitch changes; music. I suppose it is still a Nursery 'Rhyme'.

    Quote Originally Posted by wlz View Post
    If this kind of repugnant twaddle is to be enjoyed as poetry then we're all immediately made redundant:

    "Whoa-ohh-oh
    Whoa-ohhh-oh-oh

    Ooooh
    Oh baby, I've been flyin'
    Nooo-yeah
    Oh mama there
    Ain't no denyin'

    Oh!
    Ooooh-yes
    I've been flyin'
    Ma-ma-ma
    Ain't no denyin'
    No denyin'-uh

    Oh!"

    - extract from 'Kashmir'.

    I think I hear coffin doors opening in Pere Lachaise!

    Westminster Abbey is groaning!

    The Greek Island of Ios is freezing over!

    I'm sure you may all be thinking that there's some sort of poetic famine on, but come out of the dark and back into the light before it's too late!
    I suppose I throw in the towel. Half of the words aren't words.
    For I have known them all already, known them all:
    Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,
    I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;
    I know the voices dying with a dying fall
    Beneath the music from a farther room.

    So how should I presume?
    Eliot

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    I like this poem by Tatamkula Africa. It's free verse, but the stumbling rythmn mimics the effort needed to walk over the wasteland. One of the trngths of fr ersei thatit gives you options.

    Nothing’s changed


    Small round hard stones click
    under my heels,
    seeding grasses thrust
    bearded seeds
    into trouser cuffs, cans,
    trodden on, crunch
    in tall, purple-flowering,
    amiable weeds.


    http://southafrica.poetryinternation...hp?obj_id=5497

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    All the fear has left me now
    I'm not frightened anymore
    It's my heart that pounds beneath my flesh
    It's my mouth that pushes out this breath

    And if I shed a tear I won't cage it
    I won't fear love
    And if I feel a rage a won't deny it
    I won't fear love

    Companion to our demons
    They will dance, and we will play
    With chairs, candles and cloth
    Making darkness in the day
    It will be easy to look in or out
    Upstream or down without a thought

    Peace in the struggle
    To find peace
    Comfort on the way
    To comfort

    (Fumbling Towards Ecstasy - Sarah McLachlan)
    "...You are not wrong, who deem
    That my days have been a dream;
    Yet if hope has flown away
    In a night, or in a day,
    In a vision, or in none,
    Is it therefore the less gone?..." E. A. Poe

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    the horrors - Scarlett fields, their lyrics are very underrated

    As the summer fades away
    you'll lead me to the garden
    passing the lovers
    swooning in the autumn

    see yourself, your image in the eyes of someone else
    see yourself, your fears as they appear to someone else

    when the sun sets
    on dark silhouettes
    collapse into dream

    as summer fades away
    laugh at my reflection
    passed to a lover
    seeking your affection

    though i know you won't be here for long

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    ok here are a couple.

    All Along by Tin Tree Factory ( the lyrics are nowhere to be found so heres the youtube link )

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc2Ft2990R0


    and

    saftey pin stuck in my heart - Patrik Fitzgerald ( the punk rock poet )



    I don't love you for your graveyard eyes
    I don't love you for your shaven thighs
    I just love you for that
    Beat-beat-beat-beat-beating

    I don't love you for your tattered tie
    I don't love you, and I don't know why
    I just love you for that
    Beat-beat-beat-beat-beating


    I've got a safety pin stuck in my heart
    For you, for you

    I don't love you for your professed hate
    I don't love you for your cards of fate
    I just love you for that
    Beat-beat-beat-beat-beating

    I don't love you for your painted shoes
    I don't love you for your friends you never choose
    I just love you for that
    Beat-beat-beat-beat-beating

    I've got a safety pin stuck in my heart
    For you, for you

    I don't love you for your many reasons
    Propagandas, doctrines, treasons
    All I know's that
    Beat-beat-beat-beat-beating

    I've got an ear inflamed on my dog chain
    Painted faces, painted names -
    My shirt - it's all that
    Beat-beat-beat-beat-beating

    I've got a safety pin stuck in my heart
    For you, for you

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    Empty is the sky before the sun wakes up.
    Empty is the eyes of animals in cages.
    Empty, faces of women mourning
    When everything's been taken from them.
    Me, don't ask me about empty.

    Empty is a string of dirty days
    Held together by some rain.
    And the cold winds drumming at the trees again.
    Empty is the color of the fear
    Long about September when the days
    Go marching in a line toward November.
    Empty is the hour before sleep chills you every night
    And pushes you to take me away from every kind of light.
    Empty is me.
    Empty is me.

    -Frank Sinatra, "Empty is"

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    I'm sorry to say that I think this thread simply reinforces a fairly well known truth. Song lyrics, to an overwhelming extent, make for awful poetry.
    'Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.' - Groucho Marx

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    Dunno if it's been posted before, but here are two of my faves:

    "Shadow Of The Day"

    I close both locks below the window
    I close both blinds and turn away

    Sometimes solutions aren't so simple
    Sometimes good bye's the only way

    [Chorus]
    And the sun will set for you
    The sun will set for you

    And the shadow of the day
    Will embrace the world in grey

    And the sun will set for you
    [End Chorus]

    In cards and flowers on your window
    Your friends all plead for you to stay

    Sometimes beginnings aren't so simple
    Sometimes good bye's the only way

    [Chorus]
    And the sun will set for you
    The sun will set for you

    And the shadow of the day
    Will embrace the world in grey

    And the sun will set for you

    And the shadow of the day
    Will embrace the world in grey

    And the sun will set for you

    And the shadow of the day
    Will embrace the world in grey

    And the sun will set for you
    [End Chorus]
    And:

    Every time I look in the mirror
    All these lines on my face getting clearer
    The past is gone
    It goes by, like dusk to dawn
    Isn't that the way
    Everybody's got their dues in life to pay

    Yeah, I know nobody knows
    where it comes and where it goes
    I know it's everybody's sin
    You got to lose to know how to win

    Half my life
    is in books' written pages
    Lived and learned from fools and
    from sages
    You know it's true
    All the things come back to you

    Sing with me, sing for the year
    Sing for the laughter, sing for the tears
    Sing with me, if it's just for today
    Maybe tomorrow, the good lord will take you away

    Yeah, sing with me, sing for the year
    sing for the laughter, sing for the tear
    sing with me, if it's just for today
    Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away

    Dream On Dream On Dream On
    Dream until your dreams come true
    Dream On Dream On Dream On
    Dream until your dream comes through
    Dream On Dream On Dream On
    Dream On Dream On
    Dream On Dream On

    Sing with me, sing for the year
    sing for the laughter, sing for the tear
    sing with me, if it's just for today
    Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away
    Sing with me, sing for the year
    sing for the laughter, sing for the tear
    Sing with me, if it's just for today
    Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away......
    For the clueless, the two songs are Linkin Park's Shadow of the Day and Aerosmith's Dream On.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixsmith View Post
    I'm sorry to say that I think this thread simply reinforces a fairly well known truth. Song lyrics, to an overwhelming extent, make for awful poetry.
    Agreed.

    There are one or two that aren't so bad, but it just isn't the same.
    For I have known them all already, known them all:
    Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,
    I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;
    I know the voices dying with a dying fall
    Beneath the music from a farther room.

    So how should I presume?
    Eliot

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    Lateralus by TOOL is one of the single most beautifully written things I've ever read.

    With my feet upon the ground
    I move myself between the sounds and
    Open wide to suck it in
    I feel it move across my skin
    I'm reaching up and reaching out
    I'm reaching for the random or
    Whatever will bewilder me,
    Whatever will bewilder me
    And following our will and wind
    We may just go where no one's been
    We'll ride the spiral to the end and
    May just go where no one's been...
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    En ég stend alltaf upp

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    [QUOTE=Vautrin;821511]There are countless songs we consider poetic or, at least, poetic sounding. However, most of these songs, when stripped of their instrumentals, may not hold up so well as serious poetry. /QUOTE]




    I'm sorry to say that I think this thread simply reinforces a fairly well known truth. Song lyrics, to an overwhelming extent, make for awful poetry. Sixsmith

    The thread began with that premise, but Vautrin was asking for possible exceptions.
    Last edited by Paulclem; 01-30-2010 at 05:49 PM. Reason: Bitten fingers

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    "The thread began with that premise, but Vautrin was asking for possible exceptions."

    Well in that case...

    Diamonds and Rust Lyrics

    (Words and Music by Joan Baez)

    I'll be damned
    Here comes your ghost again
    But that's not unusual
    It's just that the moon is full
    And you happened to call
    And here I sit
    Hand on the telephone
    Hearing a voice I'd known
    A couple of light years ago
    Heading straight for a fall

    As I remember your eyes
    Were bluer than robin's eggs
    My poetry was lousy you said
    Where are you calling from?
    A booth in the midwest
    Ten years ago
    I bought you some cufflinks
    You brought me something
    We both know what memories can bring
    They bring diamonds and rust

    Well you burst on the scene
    Already a legend
    The unwashed phenomenon
    The original vagabond
    You strayed into my arms
    And there you stayed
    Temporarily lost at sea
    The Madonna was yours for free
    Yes the girl on the half-shell
    Would keep you unharmed

    Now I see you standing
    With brown leaves falling around
    And snow in your hair
    Now you're smiling out the window
    Of that crummy hotel
    Over Washington Square
    Our breath comes out white clouds
    Mingles and hangs in the air
    Speaking strictly for me
    We both could have died then and there

    Now you're telling me
    You're not nostalgic
    Then give me another word for it
    You who are so good with words
    And at keeping things vague
    Because I need some of that vagueness now
    It's all come back too clearly
    Yes I loved you dearly
    And if you're offering me diamonds and rust
    I've already paid

    The above is far from being poetry but I love these lyrics, (and the song).
    "Have the strength to force the moment to its crisis".

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    Quote Originally Posted by wlz View Post
    The above is far from being poetry but I love these lyrics, (and the song).
    I like them.

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