Well, it's late and I'm sleepy. Give me a break, man. We could play the grammar game if you want to, and I could point out all of your spelling mistakes and incorrectly used words which you used to try to make yourself look smarter then you are, but I'm not a douchebag like that.Originally Posted by Red-Headed
*edit* also, if I'm debating with someone who makes a good point for which I don't have a response, I don't abandon the subject at hand to make immature personal attacks.
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I am not aware of any incorrectly used words, please enlighten me. As for spelling, if you really were an undergraduate you would know that British English has more variant spellings than US English as our language register wasn't finalised until the early 20th century. You had Noah Webster. We had to wait for the OED. We were slackers in that respect.
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And that's that. I don't play the grammar game anymore, I gave up on that technique when I started debating above an eighth grade level. I'm really sleepy now, I've carried on this stupid conversation with you way longer then I should have (it's four in the morning here). Goodnight, no hard feelings. I do think that you should try to be less of a snob, though.
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"Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal."
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You aren't very good at it anyway. I am. I make sure many of the pupils who have had difficulties with basic English that I have taught have a thorough grounding in grammar. They appreciate it after a while.
It would help if I knew what 'eighth grade level' was.
You perceive me as a snob for some idiosyncratic reason better known to yourself. I was born with learning difficulties, I have severe ADHD & I am bipolar. I fought tooth & nail for my education. Every exam I took I had to work hard for. It didn't come easy to me. I worked in low paid jobs for several years before I decided to get an education. I am now qualified to teach people with learning difficulties inter alia & I believe everyone should have a chance at an education. In my opinion, 'dropping out' is the slackers way out. If you have the ability (& most people have if they try) it just takes hard work & diligence. Unfortunately, this is too much for many who just expect things to drop into their laps. Life is rarely like that. I learned the hard way. I'm proud of every letter after my name. If that makes me a snob then I'm happy with that.
If using correct grammar is 'playing the grammar game' I really fear for the future of literature.
I haven't taken any offence anyway, it's been fun (notice how I used the UK English spelling of 'offence').
Nos da (Welsh for Good Night, I used to live in *Wales.)
*Wales: A small country to the west of England.
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Red-Headed, JuniperWoolf, I felt just like saying to you both, do not know why though, if any anybody could explain that I'd be so happy. You people are arguing about who is smart and who is stupid, but from my perspective of view the more you argue the more stupid it seems. I think neither of you is right and wrong, it is just it is what different people think.
Red-Headed!
Talks about tough life, that makes me annoyed, when people say: Hey I had it rough too. Well, as if anybody had it smooth, as if your life is the hardest, sure, nobody had ever experienced problems, that are more complicated. And yeah, I am not that book-wise like you, I had to look up what ADHD & bipolar is ( mental disorder - I laughed at it,( sorry, but most people in my country do not even consider it an illness all that much, people just love to say they are ill - meaning come on I am ill, don't be that bad to me, if so I am ill too you know, and according to how many people take antidepressant medication - most people are ill, so being healthy seems abnormal, the world is a huge mental-house)). Well I'll go on, my mind is just a bit confused and mixes up words a lot, so sorry for it.
I might be getting you wrong, but it seemed to me like that you think that anybody, who drops out or doesn't necessary choose an academic way - was weak and gave up on getting knowledge, if you do, I just cannot see the way you see the world. People have different interests, so knowledge might vary. I've saw so many people around, who study and are good at it, they might have great future, but they are pitiful, they do not even like it, I think they should drop out, I always knew my friend never wanted to go to University, but she did, and what did she get? Well, absolutely nothing, just a bunch of information she doesn't attach importance too, but the hair-cut she maid me, that was important, that was so important to her, she looked so scared, happy, excited, a lot of emotions, I've never seen her like that before. Maybe it is a smarter way to go the way according to I wish , but not I have to thing, well I cannot say for sure, never thought of it too much, it seems complicated and I despise overcomplicated stuff when you do not need it.
12 year joke is really low and stupid I think - it doesn't really matter, you know people tend to say that when you get elder you get wisdom, but sometimes you just get elder. Never underestimate kids, they are clever and not polluted by vast amount of information, they have pure mind, not blank one.
JuniperWoolf!
I think I kind of get what you say in some points, but I get your boyfriend even more. I wonder why I am not annoyed like I am with Red-Headed, though I do not agree, and feel that saying snob was wrong.
Well, I think environment does a lot; the environment can make a person read more or less and change their mind on why they read. I was never into reading, but in here (University I mean) it is absorbing you, and you suddenly find yourself in the midst of it.I don't think that age or level of education has anything to do with it.
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My, my... lots of letters, I should stop being that boring. People, hope you didn’t fall asleep reading it.
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That is the typically ignorant reaction of many people. Many adults have had learning problems due to ADHD & bipolarism & assumed that they were not intelligent & couldn't achieve anything. There were similar prejudices with dyslexia nearly a hundred years ago. You may laugh at people afflicted with learning difficulties but I have helped teach people with learning difficulties to achieve their potential. I don't think that it is a laughing matter. I think that if you derive humour from laughing at people with any kind of mental problem or learning difficulty then you must be quite sad. I can't help you.
Why doesn't this surprise me?
So what exactly is your point? Are you saying that people with clinical depression (often caused by problems with the serotonin levels in their brains) are just faking problems? If you can't see how ignorant that appears to be I can't help you.
I had to work hard for my education & got into serious debt for it. If you want to drop out that's fine with me. I am also a black-belt in karate. I got that through hard work & much pain, I could have dropped out of that but I didn't. I think people should do what they want. I also believe that if you have the ability then you should try to utilise it. I also think that you should give your place at university to someone who could appreciate it by all means if you want to drop out.
What's your point exactly?
It was a bona fide question.
Also, don't downgrade labor workers like they're not fit to lick your shoes. The men that I grew up with make more money then you do (trust me. A rig worker's salary is nothing to scoff at), and they contribute more to society. They have better personalities, too... a lot more fun, I'd say.
This was uncalled for as well. I never 'downgraded' labour workers, & the rest of this is just an immature speculation. Plus, for an alleged undergraduate of the sciences, I find it strange that she didn't recognise my spelling as being idiomatically British English. I think that you both should read some David Hume on the problems of inferring from too little information.
and I could point out all of your spelling mistakes and incorrectly used words which you used to try to make yourself look smarter then you are, but I'm not a douchebag like that.
This is bordering on the ad hominem. It appears to me that I am being attacked for something that was imagined by my opponent. I've got nothing against drop-outs. I have also got nothing against graduates. I know who I respect more.
I believe you mean 'older', elder is restricted in use to people, and is generally only used as an adjective in the context of family relationships, as in an elder brother or sister.
The arrogance of youth is fine until you learn better. I did.
Never underestimate the educated either.
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Geez!... did everybody take mean pills, or get laid off right before the holiday... or perhaps they just need to get laid...? Did I say that?
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Maybe it's because of the silly season.Geez!... did everybody take mean pills, or get laid off right before the holiday... or perhaps they just need to get laid...? Did I say that?: Ho, ho, ho.
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Very good!
I still like to read just for pleasure these days.
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Ah, no wonder why you like him.
Seriously, I don't like these threads - they are so tedious, and always drag up the same names.
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