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    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanPip View Post
    Frequent ejaculation in your 20s and 30s apparently lowers the probability of getting prostate cancer later in life, but that's the only one I can think of.
    Not only that, ejaculation relieves [somewhat] the symptoms of hyper-prostatism (benign enlarged prostate), an uncomfortable and annoying chronic complaint in men over 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
    Not only that, ejaculation relieves [somewhat] the symptoms of hyper-prostatism (benign enlarged prostate), an uncomfortable and annoying chronic complaint in men over 50.
    Thank you for your insight Atheist; I had always wondered why the gentlemen didn't just "pack up the magic kit" and retire, watch David Lettermen, when suffering from such chronic problems.
    By the way, are we dicussing ejaculation of a residual?

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    So many arguments for and against celibacy and chastity here, but the point under discussion is extremity at both ends in point of fact and all I want to however raise to the attention of all is something different than this one-sided notion of it and all I want to do herein is strike the middle path between these two extremities. For man lives a very imbalanced life compared with his fellow animal beings and sex is not the issue with animals and sex is as important as food and sleep and nothing more and it is seasonal activity for them. Whereas man is too much engrossed in sex things and he kind of gives too much attachment to it and that is why there is so much violence and rape in society.

    Nikolai is right in part and we need to attain a state of celibacy to a certain extent. As a student one has to be celibate and if one is engrossed in sex in his student life he is likely to part with education.

    Sex is a vital force and it can elevate our lives if we use it properly and the western outlook on this is rather abusive and the eastern outlook is balanced.

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    Bravo, Blazeofglory! Excellent!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blazeofglory View Post
    For man lives a very imbalanced life compared with his fellow animal beings and sex is not the issue with animals and sex is as important as food and sleep and nothing more and it is seasonal activity for them. Whereas man is too much engrossed in sex things and he kind of gives too much attachment to it and that is why there is so much violence and rape in society.

    Sex is a vital force and it can elevate our lives if we use it properly and the western outlook on this is rather abusive and the eastern outlook is balanced.
    Blaze, I always appreciate your very thoughtful and insightful responses. I would, however, like to add my thoughts to your comment.

    People talk a great deal about the nature of animals; yet seldom observe them. Like man, in a balanced environment, where there is plenty of territory for the weak and the strong, there is plenty of food, and a number of healthy females to males; animals expend very little energy with sexual activities. However, when there is limited territory and limited healthy females, the males group together and go after the few healthy females. The stronger will get to the females first, the weaker will take them while they are down.

    I don't agree that the eastern outlook is balanced. If, they give less importance to sexual activity; they only become inbalanced in other areas.
    We cannot look at the history of the East and say they are balanced; if fact, perhaps they would stop the incessant fighting if they had a few more orgasms!

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofmusic View Post
    Thank you for your insight Atheist; I had always wondered why the gentlemen didn't just "pack up the magic kit" and retire, watch David Lettermen, when suffering from such chronic problems.
    By the way, are we dicussing ejaculation of a residual?
    The funny thing is, it doesn't lessen sex drive (thank god!) and only affects urination, and stopping ejaculations will definitely make it worse. It's about the amount of semen in the prostate itself.

    There is a "cure", which is to have an operation which drills a new hole through the urethra.

    Quite unpleasant, so I hear.

    Quote Originally Posted by blazeofglory View Post
    So many arguments for and against celibacy and chastity here, but the point under discussion is extremity at both ends in point of fact and all I want to however raise to the attention of all is something different than this one-sided notion of it and all I want to do herein is strike the middle path between these two extremities. For man lives a very imbalanced life compared with his fellow animal beings and sex is not the issue with animals and sex is as important as food and sleep and nothing more and it is seasonal activity for them.
    This is completely incorrect.

    Animal studies show that most species of higher intelligence have as much, and maybe more, sex than humans. Bonobos (pygmy chimpanzees) are highly sexed and indulge in all kinds of heter- and homosexual activity. Dolphins are also highly sexed, but a little harder to study.

    The seasonal nature of most animalian sexual activity is more to do with evolutionary advantages due to prevailing seasons and weather than any benefit to the animals.

    Quote Originally Posted by blazeofglory View Post
    Whereas man is too much engrossed in sex things and he kind of gives too much attachment to it and that is why there is so much violence and rape in society.
    Unfortunately, the exact opposite is the true picture, as evinced by studies over the past decade which show sexual crimes dropping in conert with the availability of internet porn.

    Quote Originally Posted by blazeofglory View Post
    Nikolai is right in part and we need to attain a state of celibacy to a certain extent. As a student one has to be celibate and if one is engrossed in sex in his student life he is likely to part with education.
    I'd certainly dispute that, although I don't know of any proper studies on the subject. Most under-graduates act like rabbits, yet most of 'em pass.

    Quote Originally Posted by blazeofglory View Post
    Sex is a vital force and it can elevate our lives if we use it properly and the western outlook on this is rather abusive and the eastern outlook is balanced.
    I'm not even sure what you mean here, because not all eastern people treat celibacy as ideal and nowhere near all westerners are sex addicts.

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