List of Evidence Potent Enough to Convince Atheists of the Veracity of a Religion.

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The greatest evidence against atheists is their complete failure to get their story straight.

[The Atheist]

The greatest evidence against atheists is their complete failure to get their story straight.

Sorry, but I don't understand this at all.

What story is there to "get straight"?

An atheist - and I speak with some authority on the subject - is someone who does not believe in god/s.

The simple answer is that anyone not conforming to that sentence isn't an atheist, and since it's the only criterion, I really don't know which story you might mean.

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Do Atheist begin as such; or are they created?

[OrphanPip]

I would contend that most babies don't spring out of the womb reciting the Gospel of St. John.

[The Atheist]

Do Atheist begin as such; or are they created?

Saved me the trouble!

I would contend that most babies don't spring out of the womb reciting the Gospel of St. John.

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Saved me the trouble!

Sorry if I am asking a stupid question; but what creates an Atheist? Is it a strict, fundamentalist faith that lets one down (as well as the people one trusts) Is it the unfairness of life; some enjoying abundance while others suffering starvation, disease, etc. Is it that when one listens to religious conversation; it seems to be some sort of circular logic that really answers nothing...taking a person around until dizzy and leaving them back to the beginning of the conversation. Is it that while most God images are supposed to be the creator of all mankind; he is unfair: favoring one group of people while making others suffer. Is it because he takes a sadistic delight in making man suffer with his mind games: as with Abraham and Isaac or Job. Is it that, for Christian doctorines, Gods morals and ethics change over time even if God does not.
I myself am not an Atheist; neither do I buy into such belief systems; So please, give me your opinions. I am not putting anyone or any faith down; merely curious

[The Atheist]

Sorry if I am asking a stupid question; but what creates an Atheist? Is it a strict, fundamentalist faith that lets one down (as well as the people one trusts) Is it the unfairness of life; some enjoying abundance while others suffering starvation, disease, etc. Is it that when one listens to religious conversation; it seems to be some sort of circular logic that really answers nothing...taking a person around until dizzy and leaving them back to the beginning of the conversation. Is it that while most God images are supposed to be the creator of all mankind; he is unfair: favoring one group of people while making others suffer. Is it because he takes a sadistic delight in making man suffer with his mind games: as with Abraham and Isaac or Job. Is it that, for Christian doctorines, Gods morals and ethics change over time even if God does not.
I myself am not an Atheist; neither do I buy into such belief systems; So please, give me your opinions. I am not putting anyone or any faith down; merely curious

All or any of the above.

I know atheists who, like myself, decided at around the same age that Santa and god/s were both the same type of myth and never bothered with theism at all. I know others who were christian for many years before becoming atheist.

Some atheists come from strong christian families, while some christians grew up devoid of god/s.

There is no single factor which unites atheists in any way beyond that one little phrase; "I do not believe in god/s."

From there, there are no common paths. We don't have a common answer for what life, the universe and everything actually is and is up to, we don't have a common theory for the origin of life, and we certainly don't have any common ground on how to deal with theists.

The philately argument works fine for atheists. While you can classify philatelists as people who collect stamps, you can't group non-philatelists by any other typing.

[The Atheist]

I missed this one, and I hate seeing unchallenged assertions lying around.

Especially when they're wrong!

1. I'll start at the top. Do you know the Dead Sea Scrolls (found in the 1960's) verified the ancient Biblical texts, almost to the letter? Have you read Isaiah 53, which contains prophecies of Christ written hundreds of year before Christ lived?

If you want to argue biblical accuracy, you'll need to cover the several thousand parts which do not fit.

Besides which, saying Isaiah prophesied Jesus is like trying to make a Nostradamus quatrain predict the 9/11 attacks. It just isn't there.

2. The creation account in the Bible matches what science has found as the order of creation. How did the authors know the order in which animals were created?

As we've discussed here previously, this assertion is just wrong. Animalian evolution did not happen in the order of the bible.

[OrphanPip]

This presentation from Dr. Laurence Krauss on how the universe can come into existence from nothingness might be interesting for the people in this thread. He is presenting it in layman terms in a very charismatic manner, he's a great speaker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Imvl...layer_embedded