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    Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, James, Flaubert, Faulkner, even Dickens sometimes. Beyond the classics Stephen King does a wonderful job and Cormac MacCarthy is disturbingly real.

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    for some reason, not to criticise you, i can never finish a Stephen King book...don't get me wrong, he does have a knack for creating good cahracters...

    as for the rest....i don't know any of the others, except for Faulkner due to English class discussions....

    but! have you started a thread about other authors like the ones you mentioned^?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautifull View Post

    but if you don't think that Stephenie Meyer creates almost realistic characters, then who do you think creates believable characters?
    I have to say that in the 20 pages of "Twilight" that I read. The characters had about as much definition as "Edward" would when he looks in a mirror.

    I couldnt resist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinthediltz View Post
    I have to say that in the 20 pages of "Twilight" that I read. The characters had about as much definition as "Edward" would when he looks in a mirror.

    I couldnt resist.
    HAHAHA Oh Kevin. I know you tried really hard there, but the Edward's character would appear if he looked in a mirror. The book actually talks about that. Valiant effort though
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    Waiting for a winter to be done.
    Why do I still see you in every mirrored window,
    In all that I could never overcome?

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    at first Kevin was making no sense!!but you gotta admit tho, it was a good joke!

    Quote Originally Posted by kevinthediltz View Post
    I have to say that in the 20 pages of "Twilight" that I read. The characters had about as much definition as "Edward" would when he looks in a mirror.

    I couldnt resist.
    c'mon kevin, 20 pages? that's seriously not enough to get to know the characters...you diltz!
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    I'm not entirely too sure who said it but someone a bit further back in this thread said something about Twilight playing on the sexual fantasies of girls. You have to be very, very careful when making a comment like that and of which i'm about to support and add to, but I think it's bang on.

    Twilight, in my opinion, does not simply appeal to girls because of its "storyline" or the characters of which are, I must add, poorly crafted and pathetically executed, it plays on the desires of young girls. I'm gonna be treading on egg shells with this so I have to be careful but the sexual energy in that book is insane. It's almost as though Meyer is writing out her own fantasies in a book. The comments Edward makes about "breaking" Bella in half if he's not careful, the constant emphasis on his strength and how fragile she is, SCREAMS sex. The whole, "oh Edward take control of me with your dominant ways" is highlighted, page after page in that book.

    Ask most people who read that book, the thing they are most interested in is Edward and Bella's relationship. Most of them picture themselves in place of Bella and the thought of being "controlled" and in the hands of someone who could break them in half appeals to them.

    Deny it as much as they want, but Meyer knew what her selling point would be.

    Sex. sex. sex.



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    Ok guys there is no comparing Twilight or Harry Potter to classics but come on, take them for what they are: kid books. For all the people who diss Harry potter and call it trash ypu have to realize that it has always been aimed at younger children and teenagers. As for Twilight, while it is aimed for a teenage audience as oppose to preteen, it's still in all fairness a kids book. Albeit I'm in that age group and have been hooked on classics since i was about twelve but you can't completely discount a book because your out of the age group. Anouther thing about Harry Potter is that it has a good story and moral to it. I'm not at all ashamed to say I've read all seven of the books and highly enjoyed them, I also read the first one at 10, so it's all about age appropriateness.

    A note to my other post, I read Twilight because my friends wouldn't stop talking about it and didn't enjoy it. I personally found it to be bad writing with bland and rather sexist characters. But my point still remains.
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    Then falls thy shadow, Cynara! the night is thine;
    And I am desolate and sick of an old passion,
    Yea, hungry for thelips of my desire:
    I have been faithful to thee Cynara! in my fashion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynara View Post
    Ok guys there is no comparing Twilight or Harry Potter to classics but come on, take them for what they are: kid books. For all the people who diss Harry potter and call it trash ypu have to realize that it has always been aimed at younger children and teenagers. As for Twilight, while it is aimed for a teenage audience as oppose to preteen, it's still in all fairness a kids book. Albeit I'm in that age group and have been hooked on classics since i was about twelve but you can't completely discount a book because your out of the age group. Anouther thing about Harry Potter is that it has a good story and moral to it. I'm not at all ashamed to say I've read all seven of the books and highly enjoyed them, I also read the first one at 10, so it's all about age appropriateness.
    I don't understand what "age appropriateness" has to do with quality.

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    yeah yeah....i think the last book was the only one that really did that, lima.
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    Ohkay, come on kids, Harry Potter is in a whole different league than the Twilight series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Classic*Charm* View Post
    HAHAHA Oh Kevin. I know you tried really hard there, but the Edward's character would appear if he looked in a mirror. The book actually talks about that. Valiant effort though
    DAMN! I thought I was being cheeky and original! I tried.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beautifull View Post
    c'mon kevin, 20 pages? that's seriously not enough to get to know the characters...you diltz!
    It was as long as I could put up with. And I disagree. Dostoyevski can make me obsessed with the characters in less than ten pages. But thats Dostoyevski. Steinbeck can do that for me too. Enough to grip me. I read twenty pages of "Twilight" and couldnt remember a thing about it after I was finished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cynara View Post
    Ok guys there is no comparing Twilight or Harry Potter to classics but come on, take them for what they are: kid books. For all the people who diss Harry potter and call it trash ypu have to realize that it has always been aimed at younger children and teenagers. As for Twilight, while it is aimed for a teenage audience as oppose to preteen, it's still in all fairness a kids book. Albeit I'm in that age group and have been hooked on classics since i was about twelve but you can't completely discount a book because your out of the age group. Anouther thing about Harry Potter is that it has a good story and moral to it. I'm not at all ashamed to say I've read all seven of the books and highly enjoyed them, I also read the first one at 10, so it's all about age appropriateness.
    If you read all of the posts I think you will find that Twilight fans have said time and time again there is no comparing it to the classic. I am no kid and I enjoyed the books both HP and Twilight. The fact is books either appeal to you or they do not. But to say that people that read them are not serious readers is rubbish.

    Kevin I admire your effort by the way. You just cannot rely on the vampire lore being the same anymore
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    Hmm, 'Your blood tastes so good...but we musn't...' Big glaring metaphor, anyone? It's a bit creepy how much detail she goes into...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautifull View Post
    yeah yeah....i think the last book was the only one that really did that, lima.
    Do you mean you think the last book was the only one that was playing on teenage girls' sexual fantasies? Because it was the one that did it the least.

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    hello everyone
    I have a friend who is "fanatic" about Twillight series.She has birthday and I want to give her a book.Any suggestions?
    She likes vampires and stuff but what I suspect she loved the most of Twillight is that ehmm..romantic element.It's really not my cup of tea,so I can't think of any book she might enjoy.:/

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