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    Good question. Trying to respond. What I do know is this:

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    I constantly feel successful each day that I progress as a person. Grow, you know?

    But I will feel successful when I complete what I set out to do. I think that's what it means to be truly successful. When you complete your intentions. If there are no intentions then you can't be successful. For there is no need to be successful

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    How successful a person is, will be up to their own standards. So this makes it subjective because not everybody will think the same and not everybody will find the same level of anything to be something successful. However there is this social status that people may think the person is successful because they gain good money, have an 'important' job, they are married, etc. But this just would be the point of view from the society to the person. Not the point of view of the own person. And a person can be successful in X things and be a failure in Y thing.

    But for answer it better, a successful person is one that reached their goals and is happy with the results the person have got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1jt View Post

    How much cash do you have in your pocket today?
    You know? You just made me remember that I need to get the coins in the can, to buy a lock! ... (The lock is for the notebook that will be at work, during the week: I'll have no computer at home during week nights, which will allow me to read more, and photograph playmo, as well! )

    I've just left a job for a business, so I don't know whether I'll be successful, but having had the courage was inspiring to me already!

    An old man I know always said that he'd better regret for having done something than for, once having left the chance go, in some future, regret for not having taken that chance to change.

    I even earned quite a good money, and within a few years, I'd grow in the job, but, what tha hell! I'd never be happy if I hadn't done this. Even if it goes all wrong. (And it's an awful beginning, already! ... )

    (So, it's ve-e-e-ery promising! why not?!)


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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1jt View Post
    It started with the movie, Wall Street, then the dot.com happened.
    Come on Jon, people were considering themselves successful or lack of well before the movie Wall Street. Goodness I think Julius Caesar considered himself successful and Pompey didn't.

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    A person who is happy with themselves and has accomplished the things they have aspired to do in their life. Only the individual should be measuring the individual's success- we all have our own goals and trials and obstacles along the way to overcome. No goals are more or less lofty than any others.
    Very well said Becca. I think others said similar, but I think this was the most elegant of all who attempted it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    Very well said Becca. I think others said similar, but I think this was the most elegant of all who attempted it.
    Meh, elegance is mere propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyu001 View Post
    How successful a person is, will be up to their own standards. So this makes it subjective because not everybody will think the same and not everybody will find the same level of anything to be something successful. However there is this social status that people may think the person is successful because they gain good money, have an 'important' job, they are married, etc. But this just would be the point of view from the society to the person. Not the point of view of the own person. And a person can be successful in X things and be a failure in Y thing.

    But for answer it better, a successful person is one that reached their goals and is happy with the results the person have got.
    What's it you call "society"? ... (Besides being a word with Latin root, societas, -at-is, derived from socius, -i(o)-i, Latin word equivalent to "friend".)

    I don't like when people mention "society", for some reason I still cannot quite understand. Maybe I have some difficulty of being a disciple of Émille D. ...

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1jt View Post

    How much cash do you have in your pocket today?
    How much is fifty, sixty Reais in ... say ... dollar (US$)? Euro? Not much. Divide it in two (& ha'f) for US dollar, in three for Euro.

    That's all I have. What I have in the bank is to cover incoming debts, and that will be all. Alas that I have (pratically) no money! Lucky me that I have a place to live. Anyway, otherwise I wouldn't have left the job I had. I kind of took the chance as "the last time I'll may do something completely insane". I have no kids. My father's just got his proper place, we pay no rent, besides taxes (water, light, building maintainance ...). Last time I could do such a thing. I intend to get married, some day, not long from now. (However, according to my calculations, not less than about between five, eight years ... At least.)

    What can I say? ... I don't feel very successful, nor much wise. Nor happy, can I say. Not miserable either, all right, but there's a long way ahead. And lets suppose I won't die as I step outside, tomorrow ... Not cheerful, aye? Well, I'm not. I'd like to be, but I've always tended to reality rather than to dreaming. & I write.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dori View Post
    Meh, elegance is mere propaganda.


    Sorry, Virge, but I seem to agree with it!

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    Waking up because you want to live the day ahead.

    or in other words, virgil,

    I meant that a succesful person wakes up full of joy for the day ahead, because they love their life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    Come on Jon, people were considering themselves successful or lack of well before the movie Wall Street. Goodness I think Julius Caesar considered himself successful and Pompey didn't.
    Oh yeah, I'm sure you can go back to the days of Mesopotamia, maybe earlier, but I am referring to the commercialization of greed and that's still a relatively new phenomena.

    Only the Caesars of that time were privileged to wear the flowing purple robes and laurel crowns, the rest of society lacking a Citibank and 3-minute loan to be able to buy the same for themselves.
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    I have heard that not every successful man is a good father but every good father is a successful man.

    this sounds a bit like not all dogs are poodles but all poodles are dogs.

    Perhaps every successful man has a poodle.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by librarius_qui View Post
    I've just left a job for a business, so I don't know whether I'll be successful, but having had the courage was inspiring to me already!
    Hey, good for you lib. Courageous and risky but exciting yes? Makes you want to get up in the morning like Riesa said
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riesa View Post

    I meant that a succesful person wakes up full of joy for the day ahead, because they love their life.
    Some' (few) times I do wake up nicely. But I (usually) wake up in bad mood as well. If this were measure, I'd never be in the rank of success.

    Maybe I'm not . . .


    Quote Originally Posted by jon1jt View Post
    Oh yeah, I'm sure you can go back to the days of Mesopotamia, maybe earlier, but I am referring to the commercialization of greed and that's still a relatively new phenomena.
    One of my favourite books is the play of Job, who happend to live, as they say, in Mesopotamia ...


    Quote Originally Posted by Delta40 View Post

    Perhaps every successful man has a poodle.....
    Only if success has (necessarily?) something to do with having ... (Or, perhaps with taking care of a .. life-form , but I don't think you meant the second thing, which might be a sign of a man on his way to success.)


    Quote Originally Posted by TheFifthElement View Post
    Hey, good for you lib. Courageous and risky but exciting yes? Makes you want to get up in the morning like Riesa said
    I don't know. Well, maybe, yes, I think so, at least a bit. Lets say that .. it was worthed.

    About waking up, nope: nothing's changed. I still don't like to wake up. I'd like to sleep everyday up till 12, 13, then I'd be ... "happy". (Or successful? (...) ... Naaah!, definitely not successful!)

    If I could spend time, simply (and not apply it with work that gave money), I'd write, most of the time. (And roller-skating, and photographing playmobil, in the mean times ...)

    But I do have to work with something that makes money, .. and I don't intend to make of my writing the source of money. Definitely not! I'll be famous (if ever) after I die. Within about a hundred years. If this world lasts that long.

    Sorry 5th ... It possibly sounds .. not inspiring. Well, this is me.

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    If I'm famous (with good fame (...), for instance, because the things I wrote, did &c) about a hundred years after I die, I'll have been successful enough to my own standards!

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    i agree with you tim! but i would also want to wander about the earth in order to find that out! so, really, you left your job? when was the last time you told me about your new job? anyway, i wish you the best of luck for the new chapter in your life. try to write it as well as you can! and i hope you will succeed. remember what i've told you, i believe in you. you seem to be a funny and clever person and fairly strong since you decided to start a business although you don't have much money. well, some would consider you an idiot, but i admire you for taking the decision to do something you really want at all costs. good luck my friend!!!
    love is like a flower; it needs warmth and light as well as some space and care in order to grow. if you take care of it it grows and blossoms and you can taste its scent and touch its velvet surface and look at its bright colours. if you don't, it dies. and of course a flower has no meaning either if you don't give it to someone or have it growing next to another one. flowers are delicate. and so is love.

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