Suuurrrreee....Reality for me has never pailed to that of a book. there is nothing that measures up to holding the one you love - man that is not book
There are days if given the choice of a man or a book, I'd take the book.
Suuurrrreee....Reality for me has never pailed to that of a book. there is nothing that measures up to holding the one you love - man that is not book
There are days if given the choice of a man or a book, I'd take the book.
I'm weary with right-angles, abbreviated daylight,
Waiting for a winter to be done.
Why do I still see you in every mirrored window,
In all that I could never overcome?
Of course...I quite agree. But again, this is not always the case...Originally Posted by *Classic*Charm*
Suuurrrreee....
There are days if given the choice of a man or a book, I'd take the book.
ha, ha, let's dig deeper now girlies...
Imprinting. Did you find that a bit...creepy?...
Reading the series was sort of voyeuristic. I really couldn't imagine myself as bella, and that basically is key to liking the books.
At first I thought it was a very interesting idea; to know the instant you looked at each other, you were each others' "the one"...but it all got a bit weird with Quil and the little girl...and again with Jacob and Renesmee...would there really ever be any true equality between them, once the child grew up, when for their entire lives, they've been 'looked after' by their partner. When would the parenting stop and the partnering begin?
If they imprinted on a human, would that mean that the shapeshifters would remain the same age but their partners would still grow old?
so, are you saying that being unable to see yourself as the characters is what makes a book work? just want to make sure i understand.
I am with Kelby let’s start digging.
The imprinting confused me a little bit is there actually a physical act involved, it sounds like when I cat pee’s everywhere?
I didn’t mind the imprinting when it was Sam and Emily (I don’t have my books so if I get the names wrong sorry guys just correct me). I guess the fact that it was between two adults that made it OK. My stomach turned a little with it was Quil and the baby and then Jacob and the baby – and it still doesn’t actually sit right with me. SM went to great pains to explain that there was nothing sexual when it happened with a baby or a child but still there is something not quite right with it because eventually it will end up being a sexual relationship – or at least that is my understanding.
I couldn’t see myself as Bella either but that didn’t bother me much. I think people (women?) see her as weak but we need to remember that in most physical aspects in the first three books at least she is weaker than everyone around her (apart from the human’s). I get the impression that she was just as smart as Edward (remember the biology lab) and just as observant and fiercely independent to a fault. These are features to admire I think. Did anyone else get that?
What did both me was the fact that Sam had injured Emily when he was a young werewolves did that bother anyone else
Sorry just saw this - once they stop shifting they begin to age again
Yes, digging is always good.
I don't really feel anything about imprinting to be honest. I completely see how you are all creeped out by the idea of imprinting and the line between the caring relationship and the sexual one, if you know what I mean. SM describes the relationship as the werewolf being whatever the imprintee needs at the time, so when the imprintee is ready for a new kind of relationship, the werewolf steps up. Really, I think this concept is just so completely impossible that I cannot even fathom it, so I have no opinion. I find it slightly mind-boggling. And I know that there are a lot of impossible things and concepts in this novel, but this one is based on real human emotion and thus seems the most impossible for me. Difficult to explain...
I also see what you mean by needing a connection with the character to enjoy the book. I actually see a lot of similarities between myself and Bella (I don't think I'm quite so pathetic, though), in that I'm extremely clumsy and weak and stubborn to the point of absurdity. So in some ways it's a nice read because it's like writing myself into a ridiculous love story (don't worry, I'm not naive enough to think that a romance like this is healthy/ possible).
I'm weary with right-angles, abbreviated daylight,
Waiting for a winter to be done.
Why do I still see you in every mirrored window,
In all that I could never overcome?
Guys does anyone know if Imprinting is actually part of the werewolves canon or is it something that SM made up?
Charm we should compare bruises one day if there is something to run into I am bound to find it. You are far from pathetic by the way.
Kelby would you mind telling us what is it about Bella that most annoyed you ? Sorry if you have answered that somewhere else. So we can discuss
I never really thought of there being a werewolf canon...
Ha! Yes, I have a lot of scars tooWhy thank you
Yes, I'm curious too, though I think it's fairly common amongst the readers.
I'm weary with right-angles, abbreviated daylight,
Waiting for a winter to be done.
Why do I still see you in every mirrored window,
In all that I could never overcome?
there is a vampire canon so I assume there is one for the wolves for example the stand is that vampires cannot enter your house without an invitation - clearly not the case in Twilight.I never really thought of there being a werewolf canon...
Ha! Yes, I have a lot of scars too
Yes, I'm curious too, though I think it's fairly common amongst the readers.
If she did make it up it puts a whole new slant on it don't you think? I will see what I can dig up
Last edited by Joreads; 01-12-2009 at 08:19 PM.
Questions:
What do you think of Rosalie as a character?
Is her presence in the texts merely to antagonise and provide tension within the family? or is there more to her? What does she provide for the reader?
Ooh I hate Rosalie. She's a stupid selfish moron.
I don't think her presence is merely to antagonize. I think she's there to show the opposite viewpoint. All the other vampires were grateful to Carlisle for saving them and are happy with their "lives" and have matured to the point where they have accepted the fact that they will not grow and change. They have all come to terms with it except for Rosalie who is bitter and resentful, and petty in that she still only thinks of herself and how beautiful she is. It's a wonder Emmett puts up with her. I think she's there so that the reader (and Bella) gets the idea that it's not always easy to accept that fate.
Last edited by *Classic*Charm*; 01-12-2009 at 09:04 PM. Reason: I should probably make a useful point...
I'm weary with right-angles, abbreviated daylight,
Waiting for a winter to be done.
Why do I still see you in every mirrored window,
In all that I could never overcome?
I agree with Charm on that one. She was there to show the other side of the coin in that given a choice she would not have become a vampire. Her character was meant to balance out Bella’s obsession with becoming a vampire to provide her and the reader with what you miss out on when you come a vampire – kids for example ignoring what happens later of course
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I think also we needed to get a feel for just how alone Edward had been before Bella. He was really the odd man out in the family there were three sets of perfect, made for each other couples and yet he had walked along for 100 years until he found Bella. It is a really nice balance I think forever with someone verse a human life and everything that goes with it
I agree, and was thinking along the same lines also. I did not really like her, even at the end in Breaking Dawn, when she and Bella joined forces, so to speak, but I appreciated the contrast she provided, which ultimately equated to balance.
You are right, the perfect partnerings within the Cullen family, definitely emphasised just how lonely Edward was, which further explains the rest of the family being so supportive of Edward and Bella's 'impossible' relationship and their willingness to include her in their family. Certainly highlights the whole idea of family being more than just 'blood'...no pun intended.
Breaking Dawn was very different to the previous 3 books. It wasn't spectacular, that is for sure, though I wouldn't say I didn't like it. There has been quite a lot of negative attention given to this text, with some unhappy readers demanding their money back and so forth. To give specific examples as to why, would be to give away too much for those who haven't read it yet. In saying that, having read the series and being able to appreciate the various arguments out there, I must say that there were still some satisfying moments in the book that salvaged the overall story for me.
More than Blood I like it.
Feel free to add it to the spoiler thread
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Thanks to Joreads, I read the draft of Midnight Sun, and I have to say it wasnt a waste of two and a half hours of my time. But, was it necessary? It certainly improved our understandings of Edward, but I believe that keeping Edward in the shade of mystery was better off. It was bit predictable at times, and overall, Midnight Sun made my imaginations of Edward less intriguing and charismatic. I agree with you Joreads, that it was far humourous in comparison to Twilight, and with the exceptions of being abit loose again, it was quite entertaining.
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