Even the thread specifically recalls the question why people may believe in God, there is no barrer that is limiting me to express my opinions in the word believe. I no I am going indepth however I am just giving my input as a Christian and I believe that it causes no harm.
I respect you completely. I don't mean to sound abrupt.
Thank you, and please let me add that your comments did not seem abrupt, as it is natural for us to question.
In point of fact God is a term that interests most, for man seeks a pattern, a system or wants to be a comfort zone and going out of or beyond the zone he feels unsafe.
As such man seeks God to take refuge in, to feel comfort and live happily.
God attracts most as people want to know something about their existence and the beleif in God only enables him to understand the meaning of this universe and God in it as a creator.
“Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””
“If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.
Like father to his children, God also attracts his children so they will acknowledge that He is their father, and praise Him as their only Father they love and honour.
In college magazine, I once wrote an article – God Exists, wherein I wrote about how life slowly spring in earth from a Big bang as per the scientific theory and how I still felt that there is some guiding Power behind all this.
Over the years, I have pondered over the mystery, and the right and clear answers I seem to get when I started reading books about Avtar Meher Baba. It surprised me that nobody in lit net seems to have heard about Him.
On first instance, it would look utterly stupid when He says that He is Zoroaster, Rama, Krishna, Jesus, Muhammed and Buddha amd in this age Avtar Meher Baba. You will feel like stopping even before starting.
I have to listen to comments like, ‘Well, he looks like a thug. I will never believe in Him.’
Well, he too don’t look to me at all radiating like the other beautiful Gods.
In the sometimes callous world I often get my own doubts, but when I read and try to think then I feel, if a God were to be there, then He should be like Him.
I will not tell you to follow Him, but just read what He says what people close to Him tell about Him, try to think and form your own unbiased opinions. The two starting links are as given.
www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meher_Baba
www.avatarmeherbaba.org
Another book that really impressed me was “ Gaelic Manuscritpts’ by Betty White. This also look a very good book although I have only run through its pages and it looks much different from other more popular religious books.
http://www.isleofavalon.co.uk/Glasto...c/bwgaelx.html
Last edited by laidbackperson; 01-04-2009 at 06:05 AM.
If there indeed is a God ( i believe that our existance is to reach enlightenment, and that we, like everything else in life, are forms of energy that are constantly moving )
then i believe she or he, did no more than create us.
Why? because we have freewill. We choose to do what we please and the consequence is a result of that exercising of freewill.
If there indeed is a God ( i believe that our existance is to reach enlightenment, and that we, like everything else in life, are forms of energy that are constantly moving )
then i believe she or he, did no more than create us.
Why? because we have freewill. We choose to do what we please and the consequence is a result of that exercising of freewill.
May I ask, where is this energy constantly moving towards? Does energy also have a purpose to reach enlightenment? And if you do reach this, what occurs?Originally Posted by limajean
Now I want to ask you why God created us in the first place if He does not do anything else. You speak of freewill, but what about destiny, your act of freewill also has a meaning. Everything does.
How does free will negate God's continuing interaction with His creations? That I can choose evil doesn't mean that God is disconnected from me and the entire earth I inhabit. I don't follow the logic here.
"I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else." - C.S. Lewis
Who says that God has any other form of interaction with us?
Sure, there are instances in life where things happen and we'd like to believe it's a connection with God, but we have no proof, perhaps its something different.
Logic?
you're looking for logic in a religious discussion?
Who says he isn't disconnected from you? if indeed god gave you life, does he have a responsibility to you? we all seem to be talking about God as if he is a person - creating us in his image, etc etc.
Anyway, Red and Skasian, i am not christian, so my views differ greatly from yours.
See now you're talking as if you know for a fact. And you're misunderstanding me.
I'm not saying we don't have our different paths, perhaps yours will lead you to Heaven, and mine to enlightenment. Perhaps we are not all creations of one particular God, and when we die, we reach a level of spirituality we couldn't obtain on earth. But like i said, destiny can still exist, why must god hold our hand for us to fulfill it? Perhaps this is a test, right here right now. Perhaps he gave us free will to obtain our destiny on our own grounds.
Energy never remains still, you said in one of your posts you had studied science at school, if so, you would know this. Energy is never lost, it is recycled in many different forms.
I have many different beliefs, i've pulled from many different ideas. One i have always had is that we are god like creatures. We only use a small percentage of our brain, this has been proven, i belief the rest of it, is at a level that is almost god like - im not too sure what that means, but i think that we have the chance of being closer to a god by finding the divinity in ourselves - i believe that all the answers to such religious questions can be found in the existance of our being.
I'm not going to explain my beliefs here - if you're interested in buddhist views, look them up, but i've had enough of this forum.
Who's to say He doesn't? He may be speaking to you on a weekly basis - you just may not recognize it as God; recognizing God's voice requires a relationship with Him - but He doesn't just communicate with those who have chosen Him; we are all His creations, and therefore He is free to communicate with any of us in any way He feels fit.
The standard atheist bunker within which to hide: "proof" - as if your entire life is based on things you can empirically verify - you know that is not so. The majority of things human beings accept as true cannot be verified factually.
As a matter of fact I am; I assume that's OK with you? A sheerly emotional discussion wouldn't get us very far.
Do artists owe their creations anything? Am I not free to do as I wish with the thing I create? What responsibility does the artist owe His creations?
Well, yeah - I assume that's why we enter into discussions of this nature - to learn, to hear, to express, to understand.
"I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else." - C.S. Lewis
Nor am i an atheist, sometimes, quite often actually - i come off as one.
If he is saying he is God, then I would also say he's a rascal. God is not affected by illusion, and God is also Supreme and omniscient. If someone says they are God, just ask them to tell you what you had for breakfast last Tuesday. God would know but any rascal saying "I am God" is only a jiva, a living entity. To say one is God is only cheating them.In college magazine, I once wrote an article – God Exists, wherein I wrote about how life slowly spring in earth from a Big bang as per the scientific theory and how I still felt that there is some guiding Power behind all this.
Over the years, I have pondered over the mystery, and the right and clear answers I seem to get when I started reading books about Avtar Meher Baba. It surprised me that nobody in lit net seems to have heard about Him.
On first instance, it would look utterly stupid when He says that He is Zoroaster, Rama, Krishna, Jesus, Muhammed and Buddha amd in this age Avtar Meher Baba. You will feel like stopping even before starting.
I have to listen to comments like, ‘Well, he looks like a thug. I will never believe in Him.’
Well, he too don’t look to me at all radiating like the other beautiful Gods.
In the sometimes callous world I often get my own doubts, but when I read and try to think then I feel, if a God were to be there, then He should be like Him.
I will not tell you to follow Him, but just read what He says what people close to Him tell about Him, try to think and form your own unbiased opinions. The two starting links are as given.
www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meher_Baba
www.avatarmeherbaba.org
Another book that really impressed me was “ Gaelic Manuscritpts’ by Betty White. This also look a very good book although I have only run through its pages and it looks much different from other more popular religious books.
http://www.isleofavalon.co.uk/Glasto...c/bwgaelx.html
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