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    Hello everyone, as you all know, yes I am new here, but I have an honest proposal to you all. I have considered myself a Christian my whole life, I believe in the Bible and I believe in God and Jesus Christ, but I'm really beginning to have doubts. Is it wrong for me to have doubts on whether or not I believe in God? I'm beginning to think that it's just my imagination that is conveying these portrayals of a "higher being" that being, being God. I'm just really not sure what to think anymore, but I don't want to ask fellow Christian's because I know all that I'll get is, "Oh so you aren't a Christian anymore, and you don't have faith and blah blah blah". I would just like an honest answer from some people here. I know I am new and all, but I'm sure that I can get some good honest answers from some good people. I've made Christian videos on YouTube for the past 2-3 weeks or so, but all I've seen is Christian's attacking each other over certain doctrines and Bible translation's and just pointless crap like that. I would just like an honest answer, and if someone could help me, I'd be so greatly appreciative. Thanks so much, I look forward to hearing what you all think.
    I believe that a faith becomes more valuable if it belongs to someone who periodically doubts. You think about your faith instead of just blindly accepting what is fed to you. I have often doubted, but each time, God finds a way to remind me of His power.

    Also, just because God does not heal you in the manner you expect him to, or in the timely manner than you expect Him to, it doesn't mean he won't heal you, or that he hasn't already. Remember, all things work for good for those that serve the Lord. This has been a very difficult lesson for me to learn. I have struggled with chronic illness, and He hasn't healed me yet, but I have faith that He will use this pain for good later on.

    If I were to judge Christianity purely through the church, then it is highly unlikely that I would believe in Christ. The church has strayed from the teachings of Jesus, and has become caught up in petty arguments. It is so divided, and ministers have begun to focus so much on shaping their messages to please the worldly masses that they are forgetting about Christ. There are so many Christians who profess Christ with their mouths, and then deny Him with their actions.

    I know you are in a Christian correspondence course studying to become an I-don't-know-what, but try not to judge God purely by the church. We are all human, and weak because of it, and following humans inevitably leads us astray. Don't follow another blind man.

    You will be in my prayers; I know God will bring you through your doubt.
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    No one can judge whether you've actually lost your faith. That is between you and God Himself. I can tell you that many, Mother Theresa included, have questioned their faith, yet still acted on that faith, in the name of God. So no, it's not wrong to question your faith, just keep doing good works in His name, and I'm sure questions of your faith will be answered in time.

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    One thing to consider when you're on the christian-nonchristian fence is: consider the reasoning for and against the christian faith. Does proof of God and Heaven really exist? Are miracles really God saving people, or just good events people call miracles? Consider that if some people are saved in a miracle, many others die. Thousands die by storms in southeast Asia, but God is busy giving miracles to car accident victims or whatever.
    Plus, praying can get one of three answers: "Yes", "no", or "wait." If you think about it, you could pray to any object, from a mailbox to Allah, and get one of those three answers. "Mailbox, will I get a raise at work?" *no raise* "THe mailbox answered that I would not get a raise."
    Just a few examples.

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    You know what was weird? Someone sent me a PM encouraging me to be a Muslim. :|

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordanW View Post
    You know what was weird? Someone sent me a PM encouraging me to be a Muslim. :|
    Da'wa. One cannot escape from it in the cyber world, you will just have to learn to ignore it. Happened to me on the other forum; I was always pretty mad about proselytism where it is not its place, but after the experiences with repeated da'wa, I became allergic on it. Ignore it.

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    Hi Jordon!

    As a minister who has had a nervous breakdown and suffers from bi-polar, I have been filled with doubts quite often. But in those doubts when I come to the end of it all, I still find that my faith in God is what counts in life. Yes, people are judgmental and they argue over trifles, to the extent of churches breaking up or refusal to accept anyone who doesn't agree. But as Lady Amp said, Christians are not Christ. You have to serve God for you, serving God for others will never work, for others will let you down.

    I watched your video and cried. You seem to be an honest person who is fighting something you cannot understand. If people haven't been there, they may have trouble understanding as well. I have been there, little brother, and I understand. Panic and depression are two flip sides of the coin. You feel so tight inside you think you are gonna burst. Then you sink into a blackness that feels so heavy you just wish you would die. Please, try to fight this all you can. It is no sin nor is it weakness to seek help for this problem.

    Don't let people sink your boat. People will said and do what they want, regardless of what you believe. There are those who will say, do this or that and we will accept you. You end up not fitting in anywhere, because you know in your heart that you are wrong, and become miserable. Stick to your principles, believe in what you believe, serve God the way you find best for you. If others disagree, let them. God alone is the judge. Doesn't the Bible say that to your own master you stand or you fall? Why allow others to ruin life for you?

    Know that I will be praying for you. If you need a friend, my e-mail address is posted on my profile. Or drop me a private message. I am always willing to take the time for someone else. Keep fighting the good fight. I love you.

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    Sounds like you have the Hitchens Harris Dawkins disease

    Take two aspirans and call God in the morning. A cure for bombardment of rhetoric as oppose to faith in your own experience.

    Peace!
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    To doubt is a process of approaching to truth. I think the mission of a religion is not to provide a "real god" to protect people, but to supervise the behavior of individuals and even the whole society.Underneath glory from the God, you can keep yourself away from inharmony, immorality, and crime. Because you know that the God will always put an eye on you. That is the fundamental faith in one, being gregarious.
    We, and also the civilization need some embodied noble image to be the judge and hold us together. That is beyond regulations and the law.
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    Religion not to supervise society-society supervise itself with consolation that they have freedom of action even though they all being contolled by a Higher Power. Anyone can be moralist but religion for seekers of Truth-kind not found in books.

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    Sounds like you are human Jordanw

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    As I Muslim peron I will heal your problem..
    Imagin that you next to a river and in this a river a ship..CAN A SHIP COME TO YOU BY ITSELF??
    Of course the answer will be NO..
    WHY..Because it needs driver to move it.So, it can come to you by itself.Like the creatures.They not found by themself.There is a Creator creats them..

    I Hope I help you..

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    Personally I believe that God would prefer that we stop and think about what it is exactly we believe every now and then instead of blindly going through life accepting what people tell us, I believe that coming through a period of doubt and finding that you do in fact still believe in God makes your faith that much more solid because you've actually really thought about why it is you believe an what it is you believe in. At least that has been my personal experience. I also don't believe that there is only one way to believe in God, maybe you just need to look at the way you think about God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tanitan View Post
    To doubt is a process of approaching to truth. I think the mission of a religion is not to provide a "real god" to protect people, but to supervise the behavior of individuals and even the whole society.Underneath glory from the God, you can keep yourself away from inharmony, immorality, and crime. Because you know that the God will always put an eye on you. That is the fundamental faith in one, being gregarious.
    We, and also the civilization need some embodied noble image to be the judge and hold us together. That is beyond regulations and the law.
    Tanitan, you sound as if you're grounded in some sort of faith. You don't sound as if you're actively seeking a religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordanW View Post
    Hello everyone, as you all know, yes I am new here, but I have an honest proposal to you all. I have considered myself a Christian my whole life, I believe in the Bible and I believe in God and Jesus Christ, but I'm really beginning to have doubts. Is it wrong for me to have doubts on whether or not I believe in God? I'm beginning to think that it's just my imagination that is conveying these portrayals of a "higher being" that being, being God. I'm just really not sure what to think anymore, but I don't want to ask fellow Christian's because I know all that I'll get is, "Oh so you aren't a Christian anymore, and you don't have faith and blah blah blah". I would just like an honest answer from some people here. I know I am new and all, but I'm sure that I can get some good honest answers from some good people. I've made Christian videos on YouTube for the past 2-3 weeks or so, but all I've seen is Christian's attacking each other over certain doctrines and Bible translation's and just pointless crap like that. I would just like an honest answer, and if someone could help me, I'd be so greatly appreciative. Thanks so much, I look forward to hearing what you all think.
    You have to question anything you believe in if you think your faith is strong.

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    always I say : have good books about the religions , read them well , ask one of the people who know this religion very will ( don`t ask normal people , they will confuse you more ) just be careful , don`t let passion attack you .. don`t make any bad judgments on religions based on some people .. do good researches as well BY YOUR SELF .. ask many religious people from many religious believes ..
    then choose your religion , don`t push your self .. have your FULL time to THINK ..

    Good luck in this

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