D.H. Lawrence's Short Stories Thread

[Dark Muse]

Thanks Virgil and Janiniefor posting a list of the stories that have already been discussed, now I know what to look for to read on my own.

[Janine]

Really funny how you snuck another post in there when I was not looking. Then I went to answer islandclimber and finally got back to you. I am getting worn out! We sure do have a lively group and much enthusiasm this month. I am so pleased!

Thanks Janine, you are correct. I don't know how i missed them.

Early senility???....or a simple case of brain overload; I suffer from that one.

No not a Freudian slip, silly. Just poor typing.

I knew that - just kidding with you!

I'll send her a PM. As to subscribing for threads, look at the top of this page at thread tools, pull down the menu, and click subscribe to this thread, and finally acknowledge that you want to subscribe. Then under Quick Links you'll see "Subscribed Threads" and it will pull up all your subscribed threads.

Oh good, I think that Logos will respond and help us. Maybe we just need to set something differently to acquire spell-check. That is such a great tip, Virgil....you know I have been meaning to ask you about that for sometime. I seem to always forget so I am delighted it came up here today. I will try it and then when you go to pull them up (your thread list) - how do you go about it? Thanks for instructing all of us.

The word I was searching for and I couldn't come up with before was architypical. It came to me earlier. Lawrence was after a certain architypical characterization, if you know what i mean, in his later years.

Good word! What exactly does it mean - have you a definition? Is that spelled right? I thought it would be 'archetypical'.

Looking forward to Bluebirds. I think I may have read "Jimmy" but frankly many of them are a blurr to me at this point.

Tell me about it. I read those several new stories about a month ago and I could not hardly recall what they were about....let alone ones from years ago - mine a blur, too. I had to go back and review some that I just read. I did however, recall "Two Blue Birds" vividly....so that must say something about the story, right?

Dark Muse, you are welcome.

[islandclimber]

wow, this is a fun thread... you go away for a few hours and there are half a dozen posts to respond to when you get back! I love it

starting with Virgil... yep I don't know about the whole kissing thing here... maybe just a russian greeting type of kiss (masculine! pardonnez moi!!! who would have thought it... )

I found that site on wikipedia of all places... at the bottom where they have the links to external sites.. there were three to places with Lawrence's works... and the other two didn't have that many... so I tried the Australian one, and wow, there was almost everything.. the aussies must love Lawrence too!! Strangely when I was searching for Lawrence on google, I found a site with everything Thomas Hardy has ever written in Ebooks.. I guess in the 20s there was a 37 volume compendium of Hardy's work put out, and it is all on there!! I love Hardy too, so an added bonus of searching for Lawrence...

I was looking for the collection at amazon, and they appear to have many copies, but only on the US website of amazon, and sometimes the little associated dealers, don't ship to Canada, but Janine let me know if you find something for me... I don't mind reading on the computer screen, just as long as it is not too often.. it makes my sight go all hazy...

Thank you both so much for the list of what you have already read... I am looking forward to beginning on it tonight... see what kind of indent I can make!!

Janine I will send a pm of my thoughts on "Things" when I finish...
I love ballet as well... I've only been to see a few... umm... The Nutcracker several times, Swan Lake, Giselle, Carmen, Scherazade... but I do quite enjoy it.. so having some dvds would be great... Nureyev is amazing, and a film with him and Fountaine would be special.. which one do you have? I know they were in a few together... oh and if you ever scan any of those drawings... I would love to see...

Eugene Onegin is Tchaikovsky's opera masterpiece, based on Pushkin's poem... I have a cd of the music, and I absolutely love it.. it is so amazing, and quite tragic... I can't wait to see it live.. and then later in april I'm seeing the Mozart opera "Idomeneo"...

Everyone here should really try to check out the film Baraka.. It is quite amazing!!! Maybe the best film I have ever seen, the most powerful anyways... it is spectacular.. I know you can get it at amazon for not to bad a price I think... But I really really recommend it.. it is beautiful!

so we have decided on "Bluebird" ??? I am looking forward to the discussion!

Oh yeah, DarkMuse if you want to discuss any of the stories you missed as well, just say... I'd be happy to...

[islandclimber]

Good word! What exactly does it mean - have you a definition? Is that spelled right? I thought it would be 'archetypical'.
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yep that is how you spell it Janine... it is interchangable with the word "archetypal" too... which is a more common spelling now I think, I had never seen it the way spelled above before Virgil posted, so I had to look it up, and it appears "archetypical" and "archetypal" mean the same thing, and both are just adjectival forms of the noun "archetype"!!

[Janine]

yep that is how you spell it Janine... it is interchangable with the word "archetypal" too... which is a more common spelling now I think, I had never seen it the way spelled above before Virgil posted, so I had to look it up, and it appears "archetypical" and "archetypal" mean the same thing, and both are just adjectival forms of the noun "archetype"!!

Thanks for looking that up. Now it makes more sense to me.
Yes, is this the most popular site on Lit Net? I do the same and then check back and wow, more posts to answer. Unfortunately, I really do have to head for bed now. I have to get up early tomorrow. I want badly to answer more of your post but it will have to wait till probably tomorrow night or even Monday. Anyway, I wanted now to thank you for that Lawrence site. I was able to copy of the play, I watched last night, onto my hard-drive. If I reduce the type, I can get it down to about 50 pages, maybe less. I really want to print it out, but that is a lot. I still might go for it, on fast draft printing. Last night I kept thinking I wished I had read the play first. Wow, what a bonus! Now I am hunting for "The Boy in the Bush" - most others of the novels listed in that site, I have read - all I think. Australian's loves Lawrence because he wrote two books there "Boy in the Bush" and "Kangaroo" - my movie of "Kangaroo" came from Australia, via the USA on Amazon! I would like to find "The Boy in the Bush" film starring a very young Kenneth Branagh. So far it eludes me.
I have been researching for books for you. I was afraid mailing to Canada might be a problem...drat it! We will work something out for you. Some sellers must ship to Canada. We have to investigate that a little closer.

So 'Baraka' is the best one. I will put that into my wishlist.

Yes, the story will be "Two Blue Birds", but on Monday I will make up an offical announcement page, and a brief introduction and maybe add an illustration or photo to enhance it.

See you later and have fun reading those short stories!

[Dark Muse]

Oh yeah, DarkMuse if you want to discuss any of the stories you missed as well, just say... I'd be happy to...

I will be sure to keep that in mind, thank you

[Logos]

There is no built-in spell check with this forum software version. It might happen in the future if Admin waves his magic wand and adds it

The only spell checker I am familiar with and use is the one built in to the web browser Firefox
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/features.html

I don't know about Internet Exploder because I don't use it but I suppose it has one too.

Spell checkers work for *any* place web-based forms or fields where you enter text into a text field such as a forum post, a blog entry, or say a gmail message, etc.

Google Toolbar has a spell checker too
http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/.../en/index.html

ok, hope this helps

[Virgil]

Thanks Logos. I wonder if Quark's computer with spell check runs off of frefox.

As to my splling of archetype, I wasn't spelling it in a rare or fancy way; I was just misspelling it.

[Janine]

Thanks Logos. I wonder if Quark's computer with spell check runs off of frefox.

As to my splling of archetype, I wasn't spelling it in a rare or fancy way; I was just misspelling it.

We know and you have two typos in this post too, unless 'frefox' is something I don't know about

[Dark Muse]

I just finnised reading Two Bluebirds, and I just had to say, incredibly, I did not in fact hate the woman in this one.

[Quark]

Thanks Logos. I wonder if Quark's computer with spell check runs off of frefox.

You got me. Yeah, it must be Firefox correcting my mistakes. Of course, a LitNet spell check would be useful improvement.

I just finnised reading Two Bluebirds, and I just had to say, incredibly, I did not in fact hate the woman in this one.

Are we set on a story now? I'm ready to start posting whenever, but I suppose I should wait for Janine's intro.

[islandclimber]

has anyone else heard of the "open Library project"??? It is pretty darn cool... you go to the internet archive and search for an author in the text sections, and if you click on the books that aren't from project gutneberg, you can open them in a style called FLIP which allows to read the books as though you were turning the pages, they have all the stains from use and sometimes students or borrowers have circled lines... I guess they scan them page by page.. it is like you are actually reading a book... a living book... pretty neat.. doesn't have a ton of Lawrence, but has a bit...

text archive

[Dark Muse]

Are we set on a story now? I'm ready to start posting whenever, but I suppose I should wait for Janine's intro.

Yes, the story is set for Two Bluebirds, Janine said she was going do an offical annoucment on Monday

[Janine]

Quote by Quark

You got me. Yeah, it must be Firefox correcting my mistakes. Of course, a LitNet spell check would be useful improvement.

Quark, I don't have foxfire so that is probably why I don't have spell-check, either.

Are we set on a story now? I'm ready to start posting whenever, but I suppose I should wait for Janine's intro.

"Two Blue Birds" - go ahead and begin to read it; certainly. I read it a month or so back and only need to re-read it and review, hopefully tonight, if I can keep my eyes open long enough...*huge yawn, the coffee I drank seems to be doing nothing for me; why?* I will formally announce the short story tomorrow; but it won't be early in the day...sorry gang. I am dead tired out right now; I did not sleep much last night . I want to post some background on the story and a little synopsis, without giving away, too much.....be patient......Monday......

Quote by islandclimbrer

has anyone else heard of the "open Library project"??? It is pretty darn cool... you go to the internet archive and search for an author in the text sections, and if you click on the books that aren't from project gutneberg, you can open them in a style called FLIP which allows to read the books as though you were turning the pages, they have all the stains from use and sometimes students or borrowers have circled lines... I guess they scan them page by page.. it is like you are actually reading a book... a living book... pretty neat.. doesn't have a ton of Lawrence, but has a bit...

text archive

Hmmm...islandclimber, I never heard of that or of an FLIP file? What is that anyway. Do you need a program to open it, or must you download one that reads FLIP files? It sounds fascinating, but I doubt my computer would handle it. I should wait till I get a new computer with more RAM and memory to try it. I will check out the site, anyway. How funny - virtual books and some with coffee stains and all!
Quote by Dark Muse

Yes, the story is set for Two Bluebirds, Janine said she was going do an offical annoucment on Monday

Hopefully... I will announce it formally tomorrow - not too late, but not in the morning either. I am NOT a morning person!

I just finnised reading Two Bluebirds, and I just had to say, incredibly, I did not in fact hate the woman in this one.

Heheee, I can't figure you Dark Muse. I was going to suggest this one last month but thought you would hate the wife. How funny, I can't guess how you will react. Did you like the story?

[Dark Muse]

Hehe yes I did enjoy the story

and well not to go into too much deatil I think the reason my feelings were different in this story, is becasue for one I did not find the husband as symapathic in this story as the one in The Shadow in the Rose Garden

And the other thing, is that in Two Bluebirds, I felt husband and wife were more on equal footing with each other, they knew each other for what they were, I did not get so much the impression as I did in The Shadow in the Rose Garden, of some poor devoted husband beeing trampled over by his selfish wife.