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    Lool sorry for this mistake
    Thanks for coming here Jack_Aubr ey
    Okay ,
    He is Ernest Miller Hemingway the one who wrote
    For Whom the Bells Toll
    The old Man and The Sea
    A farewell To Arms
    Fiesta
    The Snows of Kilimanjaro
    To Have and Have not
    Death in the Afternoon
    Green Hills of Africa
    Men Without Women
    Moveable Feast
    The Torrenest of Spring
    Across the River and Into the Tress
    Winner Take Nothing
    The Fifth column
    by this am not guilty anymore,right ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_Aubrey
    ...and God is a good author but he's no Hemingway.

    LOL!!! Good stuff!

    I view Hemingway as the 'competition'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_Aubrey
    Wow, if i didnt know who wrote "for whome the bells toll" I would have had a hard time, because you said it was written by "him." And God is a good author but he's no Hemingway.

    hehe, that may make it to the favorite quotes thread....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitaram

    You know, Hemingway is a good choice because of the simple, straightforward language and vocabulare. e.e. cummings and Wallace Stevens are not such good choices for the beginner.
    sorry friends if that was a big mistake ,I said English is not my native languge.

    When I said him,I wanted by this to refer to Hemingway in Sitaram's post,since he suggested one writer in his post not many . As I know him in English refers to God when it is written in capital letters HIM ,or at lest when it begins with capital H, which is Him Is that correct?
    Anyway sorry again if I goofed .

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    Don't worry about it, Rana! Your English is pretty good I think we here all like to joke a bit!
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    Talking I appreciatet yor care !

    hi,
    thanks ScheherazadeI understand this.I just wanna to clear up things . I love joking

    Thaaaanks all.



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    Last edited by Ranoo; 02-24-2005 at 05:32 PM.
    "you can fool all of the people some of the time;you can fool some of the people all of the time ;but you can't fool all of the people all of the time"

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    Ranoo,

    You might enjoy the short stories of an American (1930's-1940's I'm guessing) named William Saroyan. They are spunky tales of when he was growing up and are full of vitality. He also wrote a famous play, "The Time of Your Life," taking place in an American bar; it is clean fun and has some fascinating characters.

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    Hi,
    Thanks byquist for this. wish seeing you again.
    "you can fool all of the people some of the time;you can fool some of the people all of the time ;but you can't fool all of the people all of the time"

    Abraham Lincon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranoo View Post
    Hi everbody
    I 'm a fresh member here .I am not a native speaker of English.I am a girl ,who graduated recently from English language depatment.I mad about reading English litreature esp. novels and plays. I want to ask you a favor guys Could somebody tell me what is the best way to read litreature critically or at least in a very proper way,please ?


    Thanks in Advance

    [It is really a wondrful site,I hve been looking for such one for a long time

    Yours ,
    Rana
    1- Pick a genre/time period of books you would like to study. Let's say, you're interested in 19th century English novels.

    2- Flick through a book on the subject or ask someone which are the key texts to read for that time period/genre.

    3- Read the key texts!

    4- If you don't understand it, read a summary of the book and then re-read it. The bits that confused you the first time will become more clear.

    5- Discuss! Find some people who have read the same books and talk about the themes, etc...

    6- Find a book which has criticical analysis in (most classic novels have an introduction to them which is a good starting point). See what they think about the book. Do you agree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kate2223 View Post
    ^ Never do this.

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    Just get this book - http://www.amazon.com/Responding-Lit...7037695&sr=8-2

    It will teach you how to read critically for your own enjoyment, and for good understanding - if you want to go more in depth, you need to read a lot more critical work - the best way is to just get essays on your favorite authors, and read them, and analyze their arguments and style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kate2223 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranoo View Post
    sorry friends if that was a big mistake ,I said English is not my native languge.

    When I said him,I wanted by this to refer to Hemingway in Sitaram's post,since he suggested one writer in his post not many . As I know him in English refers to God when it is written in capital letters HIM ,or at lest when it begins with capital H, which is Him Is that correct?
    Anyway sorry again if I goofed .

    Just to clear things up : 'Him' referring to God is written as mentioned (with a capital in the front) (this also applies to all words referring to God, like 'Father', 'He' etc.), 'him' (without capital) is just for normal people. Some people might want to insist on calling God 'him' (without the capital) just to upset people who are religious. If you are a moslim, it would be the same as calling Allah 'allah'. But I am not supposed to write this I think, am I? I will not do it again.

    As to the actual question:

    Start certainly with something that is easy enough vocabulary-wise. If you cannot understand what's written in the first place, then you don't have a chance at understanding what's behind the text. Typical starting authors would be Hemingway, Dickens (19th century) (I would start with something short by him like A Christmas Carol), Agatha Christie (detective, 1920s), Graham Green (20ieth century, short) and more modern ones like George Orwell (the legendary Animal Farm) and Aldous Huxley. Ocar WIlde could also be a choice, but there might be a lot of words you cannot understand, although they are not really important to the plot of his only novel The Picture of Dorian Gray.

    Descriptions are difficult in the beginning, so concentrate on something with dialogue (but I see you have started with Hemingway ). However, I think your English should be advanced enough to slowly start on bigger books.

    As to notes, some others have already mentioned the internet and the library. There are some real gems on the net about certain authors. Just look and look and look. I takes a while, but those gems do not appear on the first page on Google.

    As to improving your English, which is already pretty good (), just read read read and read some more. I have a little notebook I put in the words I do not get. I look them up in English itself as that eliminates any connotations in my own language that might not correspond to the original word in English.

    If you are not sure you can understand a book, read the first page and a page somewhere into it (preferably at the start as you don't want to know too much of the plot ). If you don't know after the first page what actually happened or you feel as if there is a big 'mist' in front of anything happening (that is what a book which is too difficult feels like to me), then it is too difficult. You at least need to know what happens to the character, no matter how strange.

    I was crap at English until I was 18. Now, 9 years later, I have married an Englishman, watch BBC and do not do anything else but read in English. Same with French, apart from the husband. Practise makes perfect (or very good ).

    Welcome. (hihi I love those new smilies)

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    Oops just saw that this thread is actually 5 years old . Oh, well it will do for someone else...
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    There are many good world-wide booksellers. For example:

    http://www.bookdepository.co.uk

    They offer bargains prices, and "Free delivery worldwide".

    Surely Saudi Arabia doesn't ban the buying of books from British booksellers? Or have things really got that bad...

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