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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    Janine, in that book you have, can you look up when lawrence actually wrote it. And if memory serves me correctly, he actually had a real person in mind that he based the story on. What background info does that book provide on this story?
    Virgil,Yes, I was intending to do that. I have to go eat something now, but will look it up, while I eat my breakfast. I thought in the same vain, that it would be interesting to know just when this story was written and even more interesting now to know he based it on someone real. I will also check my other reference books and see if I can find out more about that person, when I find out who he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janine View Post
    Virgil,Yes, I was intending to do that. I have to go eat something now, but will look it up, while I eat my breakfast. I thought in the same vain, that it would be interesting to know just when this story was written and even more interesting now to know he based it on someone real. I will also check my other reference books and see if I can find out more about that person, when I find out who he is.
    I remembered who that man was: Compton Mackenzie and I looked him up and he has a Wiki entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compton_Mackenzie.

    It sounds like it's just vaguely based on his person, so i don't think there's much to be gained by looking up the details of his life.
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    I got caught up in studying today, I couldn't finish the story. I'll finish it tonight hopefully, and join the discussion starting from tomorrow Hope that's okay with everyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nossa View Post
    I got caught up in studying today, I couldn't finish the story. I'll finish it tonight hopefully, and join the discussion starting from tomorrow Hope that's okay with everyone?
    Nossa, that is no problem at all. Take your time. We will start tomorrow to discuss the story. I read it through once and hope to read through again and make some notes, but I know I will not accomplish all by tomorrow. My own plan is to re-read through Part 1, up to Part 2; I figure we can discuss up to that point to observe the develpment of the story and certain key elements as presented, in the first part. So you will have time to finish the story this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janine View Post
    Nossa, that is no problem at all. Take your time. We will start tomorrow to discuss the story. I read it through once and hope to read through again and make some notes, but I know I will not accomplish all by tomorrow. My own plan is to re-read through Part 1, up to Part 2; I figure we can discuss up to that point to observe the develpment of the story and certain key elements as presented, in the first part. So you will have time to finish the story this week.
    Great I'm planning on finishing it tonight, I'll take a break after studying, and finish it then. Sometimes I wish I was studying these stories! I'd have had a whole lot better studying hours than those I'm spending in studying The Canterbury Tales
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nossa View Post
    Great I'm planning on finishing it tonight, I'll take a break after studying, and finish it then. Sometimes I wish I was studying these stories! I'd have had a whole lot better studying hours than those I'm spending in studying The Canterbury Tales
    Take your time, Nossa. You can just finish through Part 1; we can stay up to that point a few days, or so - to discuss. The story does move smoothly and quickly though. I read it in two nights, but easily could have done so in one night, had I not fallen asleep reading.
    So how are the Canterbury Tales?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janine View Post
    Take your time, Nossa. You can just finish through Part 1; we can stay up to that point a few days, or so - to discuss. The story does move smoothly and quickly though. I read it in two nights, but easily could have done so in one night, had I not fallen asleep reading.
    So how are the Canterbury Tales?
    I'm glad I'm not the only one who falls asleep while reading. Just last night, I was reading something I printed out about North and South and the next I know I was awake at 7 am It's always the same story, I study till late at night, and it's always my dad who comes in and switches off the light, it's kind of a routine now for him..lol
    The Canterbury Tales is boring! I mean, nothing interesting ever happens. The only tale that got my attention was the Pardoner's.Right now I'm studying the Nun's Priest's Tale and it's SO boring. Why should I care of a cok gets eaten by a fox anyways? lol Lawrence is WAY better!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nossa View Post
    I'm glad I'm not the only one who falls asleep while reading. Just last night, I was reading something I printed out about North and South and the next I know I was awake at 7 am It's always the same story, I study till late at night, and it's always my dad who comes in and switches off the light, it's kind of a routine now for him..lol
    The Canterbury Tales is boring! I mean, nothing interesting ever happens. The only tale that got my attention was the Pardoner's.Right now I'm studying the Nun's Priest's Tale and it's SO boring. Why should I care of a cok gets eaten by a fox anyways? lol Lawrence is WAY better!!
    I never had a desire to read those tales and now I know why. I thought they might bore me.

    Yes, I know well enough about falling asleep...it is awful, isn't it? One minute you are reading and then your eyes get so heavy, you close them for a short rest, or so you think; next thing you know, you wake up hours later and the lights are still on and the book has fallen off your chest. I fell asleep, last night, listening to a book on my MP3 player - now that is a sure cure for insomnia! I will now have to back-track and try to figure out where I was in the book. All I know is, I woke up about 3 hours later, battery was almost exhausted, and I think I missed hearing about 2 chapters!

    Wow, we made a real 'Lawrence' advocate out of you!
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    I picked up the Canterbury TaLels somewhere, I started reading them when I was at my sister's house, and finnished the book I brought to read and did not have anything else, but I did not get that far, and then when I got home I went back to my regular reading, but I do wish to pick them up and finnish them eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janine View Post
    I never had a desire to read those tales and now I know why. I thought they might bore me.

    Yes, I know well enough about falling asleep...it is awful, isn't it? One minute you are reading and then your eyes get so heavy, you close them for a short rest, or so you think; next thing you know, you wake up hours later and the lights are still on and the book has fallen off your chest. I fell asleep, last night, listening to a book on my MP3 player - now that is a sure cure for insomnia! I will now have to back-track and try to figure out where I was in the book. All I know is, I woke up about 3 hours later, battery was almost exhausted, and I think I missed hearing about 2 chapters!
    The problem is, I LOVE reading in bed! I mean, it's better to read while sitting on a chair or something, but it's SO much more enjoyable to read in bed, and esp. since it's winter and it's SO cold, it's great just sit it, with a cup of tea in your hand, and just read! Now this is life!!
    I don't normaly care about the lights, cuz I know that my dad is there He takes care of that every night
    And take it from someone who knows..do NOT read The Canterbury Tales, they're bad for health
    And speaking of audio books, I thought about doing this once, cuz I normaly wake up very early to go to college, and it takes at least 45 mins to get there, so I thought I might get something to listen to while on my way there, are they useful when you're out? Or is it only good when you're at home or some place where you can concentrate more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nossa View Post
    The problem is, I LOVE reading in bed! I mean, it's better to read while sitting on a chair or something, but it's SO much more enjoyable to read in bed, and esp. since it's winter and it's SO cold, it's great just sit it, with a cup of tea in your hand, and just read! Now this is life!!
    The problem is the same for me. Bed is so much more comfy as you said, especially in the cold winter months. It surely is life! I won't give it up, even if I do sometimes fall asleep.


    I don't normaly care about the lights, cuz I know that my dad is there He takes care of that every night
    And take it from someone who knows..do NOT read The Canterbury Tales, they're bad for health
    Well, I don't care about lights much either; I usually only have one on, but one night I woke up and my computer was still one and all the lights in two rooms I occuppy on the second floor and it was hard going around, with one eye open, shutting everything down.


    And speaking of audio books, I thought about doing this once, cuz I normaly wake up very early to go to college, and it takes at least 45 mins to get there, so I thought I might get something to listen to while on my way there, are they useful when you're out? Or is it only good when you're at home or some place where you can concentrate more?
    Audiobooks... I find them great,...well, if you get a good narrator, that is. Some are animated and some are soooo boring. I can especially appreciate, and pay better attention to a full cast, such as the ones available for Shakespeare plays - I love those! I find when I am out, trying to concentrate, it is harder since one is bombarded with so much eye stimulation, which to me is distracting. This is basically why I do listen when I am in bed, or sometimes, when doing mindless chores, like laundry or cooking dinner. Only trouble listening in bed is that, if you're prone to fall asleep, you might just do so...it is easy to shut your eyes and drift right off. I did manage to get through one chapter last night, I believe. I usually just take the books chapter by chapter, one a night. Also, this is the first full-length book I have attempted, and since I read the novel twice before, if I miss something, I know what I have missed and can find that part easily, when rewinding.

    Nossa, you should give it a try. It is a whole new experience, listening to it being read to you or performed (as in Shakespeare). The narrator I am currently listening to, also does various voices for each character and this helps greatly in distinquishing them and keeping your interest in the story, as well.
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    I'll give it a try Hopefully they're available here in bookstores, though I'm sure if they were, they'll be so expensive.
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    I once read, ages ago, in a magazine about D.H. Lawrence wishing to form a community of sorts on an island, he named it too, something starting with an R or something. Can't remember. Is anyone of you familiar with this idea of his?
    I'll see if I can find it on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hira View Post
    I once read, ages ago, in a magazine about D.H. Lawrence wishing to form a community of sorts on an island, he named it too, something starting with an R or something. Can't remember. Is anyone of you familiar with this idea of his?
    I'll see if I can find it on the internet.
    Yes, he wanted to call it "Rananim." There is an internet society by that name devoted to discussing Lawrence. This is an exerpt from the web stire:
    Why "Rananim"?

    I am often asked, "Why Rananim? What does it mean?" It was the name Lawrence used whenever he spoke of the Utopian society he hoped to create. The word comes from a Hebrew song which he heard sung by his Jewish friend, Samuel Koteliansky.
    http://web.ukonline.co.uk/rananim/lawrence/rananim.html

    I have recently become a member, but I haven't really participated yet. It seems interesting, but you have to be a real fan of DHL in order to find it interesting. I bet there are such societies on all authors.
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    Thanks Virgil. I just found the article. Here is the excerpt referring to the island.

    He had gathered around him people like Murry, Katherine Mansfield, Catherine Carswell, Rupert Brooke, Edward Marsh and the list goes on. He had been talking Rananim with them. His idea was that they were to get away from England to found an island community where they would establish a new pattern of life, that would spread and spread until the world was regenerated and ennobled. It was a very complete thing in Lawrence’s mind — it even had its symbol, ‘a phoenix, rising on symmetrical wings, from a circle of very beautiful flickering flames that rose upwards from the rim of the cup.’ .

    Yet this story is so anti-Utopia. That somehow it can never be achieved. Why this change in views? The ending is so perfectly chilling. I was almost shivering at the end.

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