)Not at all assuming the previous post to be personal but wishing to clarify my own sarcastic thoughts) I do believe in the God that is and would not deny or defy him. But neither do I believe that He would or could order me to kill someone, as that is against the nature of him, whom I believe in. If he did it would destroy and undermind my faith in him rendering me useless.
"I am naturally too idle and lazy to hunt after authors, to say what I can say as well without them" Miguel De Cervantes, Don Quixote (Preface)
but dont you think that by disobeying god you would be committing a major sin ??
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Well, first I would commit myself to a mental institution. But if "GOD" gives me proof that he/she or it is god it first would need to provide some cash, preferably in the form of a swiss bank account in my name.
Then said God would also need to provide weapons and a form of disappearing from the country.
If God can't get me any of this stuff, then it wasn't very much of a God to begin with and I should really begin taking my medicines, am really drunk or should never have smoked that weed
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Shall these bones live?
no, no, you cannot think of god that way. God doesnt like mercenaries,,,,,
If he orders you you have no choice but to obey Him like a soldier obeys his general,
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yes, but soldiers still get payed.Originally Posted by mazHur
Shall these bones live?
Probably yes... Only after asking him what took him so long, of course; the list has been getting too long!
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"It is not that I am mad; it is only that my head is different from yours.”
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No, if there's killing to be done then let him do it himself. Let's not forget he's god, he shouldn't be lazy.
"He was nauseous with regret when he saw her face again, and when, as of yore, he pleaded and begged at her knees for the joy of her being. She understood Neal; she stroked his hair; she knew he was mad."
---Jack Kerouac, On The Road: The Original Scroll
He pays his 'children' in the hereafter. Then men construct his (soldiers) statue
showing him seated on a horse with horse's both feet up, one up, all down, ,,, any pose the mercenary likes .God os the Granter, He gives,,,you dont have tha capacity to take !
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It would be a sin I would have to ask forgiveness for and believing as I do, I know that I would be forgiven for not obeying and my merciful God would find someone better equiped to obey him than I am if it was really something he needed done. The whole idea is really too much for me because any "absolute" sign I might be given to lend credit to the command would also be in question in my mind. Again by the simple fact that the God I know does not ask people to commit murder however justifiable it may or may not be. Which sin would be worse murder or disobediance? Well they are both disobediance therefore these questions have no answer. At least not one that is unarguable "right".
"I am naturally too idle and lazy to hunt after authors, to say what I can say as well without them" Miguel De Cervantes, Don Quixote (Preface)
is all well to get rewarded in the hereafter but his children need to eat in the here and now. If god wants somebody to actually kill another person he should think of those person's families.
I don't even believe in god anyway. (no offense intended.)
Shall these bones live?
Disobedience is sin. A soldier is field court martialed for disobedience.
One ought not feel cowardly in obeying His God's commands. He may order but
only in 'special circumstances'' . For example when a child is born, God doesnt feed him with his own hand, his (baby's) mother does !
no.no. we have to revere command of god ,,,,,,,if we trust in Him
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i think the state does take care of the families left behind..........He will take care of them, don't worry. What if someone suddenly dies, then who takes care of his family,,,,,,,,,God, ofcourse, and using state as an instrument
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I agree that disobiedance is sin but how do we determine which command to follow? Surely if you are listening to the Christian God of the Bible you have heard that you should not kill. Besides your government surely says don't kill (i hope). Does your God (whom ever it is) not require you to obey those He puts in authority over you. He did put you in the land and home he wanted you in. (I am sure you believe this.) So how can you justify not obeying so many other commands? How do you decide which is most important to listen to? Or do you believe "Special Circumstances" apply in this instance and provide impunity to those other laws? I am sure a person's government would not agree. So you have effectively killed yourself by doing this and it is your family that suffers and is dependant on that very state you insulted for their lives. I truely believe a person should seriously doubt their sanity and their God if he asks such a thing of them. So back to my original statement I could not do it and do not think it should be done.
"I am naturally too idle and lazy to hunt after authors, to say what I can say as well without them" Miguel De Cervantes, Don Quixote (Preface)
the state doesn't even care for the homeless! you even need money to go into a hospital!
if people don't work for themselves, god will not work for them.
Shall these bones live?
no, you cannot disobey God,,,,God is God , any God.
Sometimes you have to kill other person ''legally''. For example, a soldier is ordered by his commander to kill his enemies; an executioner happily executes a criminal; a soldier happily goes to war to kill his enemies. Thus, supposing God orders you to kill you have to because that's a divine command. Bible says do not kill but it doesnt say at which occasion or under what circumstances ?? It is natural for any believer to kill unless he disobeys. So, if you disobey Him you will be a big sinner. Atleast for me it is very hard to digest the idea of disobeying and disappointing God if He does come and ask me to act.
think it over !!
True , that's what God commands us to do when he asks us to kill!the state doesn't even care for the homeless! you even need money to go into a hospital!
if people don't work for themselves, god will not work for them.
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Naturally, you pay to the hospital folk and they pay to others,,,,,this is cyclic with everything,,,,so why be concerned so much about hospital fee? Dont you pay an engineer, an architect, a florist, an undertaker, a comedian, etc for their services???
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