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    Quote Originally Posted by truedatt View Post
    well wuts the question because there are plenty of way in witch i could go with that and i dont feel like righting an esay myself

    i guss that Orwell is telling us to keep aware of whats going on within our government and not to allow happy storys and fictional numbers blind us. For exampleBoxer represents the commen blue coller worker. His maxums " I will work harder" and "Nepolean is always right" demonstrat his divotion to his leaders but this divotion has blinded him and evenchualy leads to his death

    Not trying to be mean here, but I've never seen so many errors in one post. Note the corrected version -

    well what's the question because there are plenty of ways in which i could go with that and i dont feel like writing an essay myself

    i guess that Orwell is telling us to keep aware of what's going on within our government and not to allow happy stories and fictional numbers blind us. For exampleBoxer represents the common blue collar worker. His maxims " I will work harder" and "Nepolean is always right" demonstrate his devotion to his leaders but this devotion has blinded him and eventually leads to his death
    15 mistakes without counting the lack of capital letters?

    Some of your premises are ok, but to pass the message across with any kind of authority, at least a reasonable degree of accuracy is helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyyy! View Post
    Ive just been reading George Orwells 'Animal Farm' in my tenth grade english class, now we have finally finished reading the novel we have been given an essay. Which i am having some difficulty with. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
    'Explore How George Orwell challenges his society through his writing'

    Thanks.
    I've also re-posted your question in the AF Homework thread, here.

    Have a read of the whole thing, we've covered most of the possible questions, but we can expand a little on yours there as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyyy! View Post
    Ive just been reading George Orwells 'Animal Farm' in my tenth grade english class, now we have finally finished reading the novel we have been given an essay. Which i am having some difficulty with. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
    'Explore How George Orwell challenges his society through his writing'

    Thanks.
    Just shifted this from another thread.

    Hey, Heyy!

    Orwell is a writer who only wrote to get a message across. In AF, he used the unusual ploy of swapping the central characters of the Russian Revolution to animal characters to increase the impact. He knew that a simple story about the Revolution would remain unread and correctly guessed that an allegorical tale would have appeal.

    If you cruise this thread, you should find enough material to keep you going, but if you need more, ask away!
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    Ok...Another question....What are the Morals of Animal Farm? New essay - "Write an explanation of Animal Farm’s key moral or morals. Support your
    explanation with specific examples and plot elements from the novel"
    I am having a hard time thinking of morals from the story other than "Communism doesn't work". Please help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarileeRixon View Post
    Ok...Another question....What are the Morals of Animal Farm? New essay - "Write an explanation of Animal Farm’s key moral or morals. Support your
    explanation with specific examples and plot elements from the novel"
    I am having a hard time thinking of morals from the story other than "Communism doesn't work". Please help?
    There are several you can play with, the key one being Edmund Burke's famous quote:

    Power corrupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely. There could be little more absoluteness than the pigs' rule, nor any corruption so complete.

    Benjamin is a good study. What is his morality other than wanting to live a long life? He knows and understands, but will not raise a hoof in protest - accepting that submission is the only choice.

    The morality of not allowing any dissent. Even the implication of dissent is sufficient for the death penalty.

    Lying, hypocrisy and cheating. The pigs are quite happy to give up the morality of Old Major and Snowball for the regime of Napoleon. Why is it ok with their moral code to lie and cheat the very animals which keep them in luxury?

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarileeRixon View Post
    Ok...Another question....What are the Morals of Animal Farm? New essay - "Write an explanation of Animal Farm’s key moral or morals. Support your
    explanation with specific examples and plot elements from the novel"
    I am having a hard time thinking of morals from the story other than "Communism doesn't work". Please help?
    One of my teachers one told me (this is one of the things, I actually remembered from school) that George Orwell didn't not think communism didn't work, he just thought that communism didn't work well in Russia. because many people (including me) like communism, they just know it will never happen in a big community because power corrupts and other factors as well.

    For other morals, squealer's propaganda could be used, as well as napoleon's forcing of the animals confession. something like that
    I intend to live forever...
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    Symbolism in Animal Farm

    As a study guide for myself and anyone else who needs it, I am going to list the characters of Animal Farm and their symbolic references to the Russian revoulution. If I left something blank or have not elaborated on it, feel free to post and I will edit my post accordingly.

    Animal Farm – Russia

    Mr. Jones – Tsar Nicholas 2

    Old Major – Karl Marx

    Napoleon – Stalin

    Snowball – Trotsky

    Squealer – The controlled media (propaganda)

    Boxer – Patriotic citizen

    Moses – Religion

    Pigs – Nobility (political figures)

    Napoleon’s Dogs – Red Army (Red Terror)

    Seven Commandments – Laws

    Windmill - ??

    Benjamin - ??

    Animalism – Marxism (possibly)

    The Rebellion – The 1917 Russian Revolution (February)

    Battle of the Cowshed – The 1917 Russian Revolution (October)

    Battle of the Windmill - ??

    Other Animals (goat, hens, ducks, sheep, ect…) – Russian peasents

    Pinchfield Farm - ?? (possibly Germany or another country)

    Foxwood Farm - ?? (possibly Germany or another country)

    “Beasts of England” - ??
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    Welcome!
    There is a thread devoted to characters and symbols in Animal Farm. If you feel that something is missing or is wrong, please post it!

    P.S. Dogs represent NKVD, not Red Army.
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    animal farm essay need Help

    Hi I am writing an essay about Animal Farm and need some help... It's quite a general question actually, Is Animal Farm a Childrens book? .. we need to use other people's critical work (secondary sources relevant to my topic). so baisically need some arguments and biases.... anything would help to get me started !

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    You've skated right past the best resource on the entire internet!

    The AF homework help thread above, click here, will tell you pretty much everything you need to know!

    Good luck and if you have other questions, add them to the Homework thread.
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    Im having trouble finding out what these things in AF symbolize, i appriciate any type of help. Thanks in advance!

    Windmill
    Battle of the Windmill
    Beasts of England

    Also does the changing of Animal Farm to Manor Farm represent Russia forming the USSR and then reforming back into Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersfan View Post
    One of my teachers one told me (this is one of the things, I actually remembered from school) that George Orwell didn't not think communism didn't work, he just thought that communism didn't work well in Russia. because many people (including me) like communism, they just know it will never happen in a big community because power corrupts and other factors as well.
    Name one place where communism functioned well?

    Quote Originally Posted by da_zerg View Post
    Im having trouble finding out what these things in AF symbolize, i appriciate any type of help. Thanks in advance!

    Windmill
    Battle of the Windmill
    Beasts of England

    Also does the changing of Animal Farm to Manor Farm represent Russia forming the USSR and then reforming back into Russia?
    Windmill is Five Year Plan, made by Stalin and Trotsky. It's an economic program that went very very bad. After Trotsky's removal from positions and from Soviet Union also, Stalin accused Trotsky to be only creator of Five Year Plan.

    Battle of the Windmill probably shows Stalin's relegation of Trotsky, who had a great influence in Russia.

    Beasts of England is an anthem. Stalin replaced old Russian anthem ''Internationale'' with new anthem ''the Hymn of the Soviet Union''. Instead of old hymn that praised people and revolution, the new one praised only Stalin. When Hruschov became leader, hymn was almost completely changed or removed.

    Change of name symbolize change Red Army's name. Animal Farm - only animals are working, so it looks amateur and very unprofessional, which would probably result with lack of reputation. Red Army was called Workers and Peasants Army, obviously very unprofessional, which was unacceptable for one of world leaders. They changed name in Soviet Army; name that causes respect. Manor Farm suites better, someone would think real workers work there...
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    Well done! Thank you very much for the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by da_zerg View Post
    Well done! Thank you very much for the help
    You're welcome! If you need anything else, feel free to ask.
    At thunder and tempest, At the world's coldheartedness,
    During times of heavy loss And when you're sad
    The greatest art on earth Is to seem uncomplicatedly gay.

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    i am writing an essay for english 10....i read the whole thread and found it extremely helpful.....thanks alot for the help!!!
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