i love that Virgil. its how i feel after writing a sentence or phrase i really like.
i love that Virgil. its how i feel after writing a sentence or phrase i really like.
I declare after all there is no enjoyment like reading! How much sooner one tires of anything than of a book! When I have a house of my own, I shall be miserable if I have not an excellent library.
Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
I always tell Toni that punctuations put in their right places can mean the difference between right and wrong, and you certainly don't want to be misinterpreted by the others. Commas, colons, semi-colons, quotation marks are put where they're meant to to involve clear thought and phrasing.
Toni is learning. I just sometimes tell her to edit some of her posts to correct punctuational errors.
"You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life."
To go wrong in one's own way is better than to go right in someone else's" - Dostoevksy
What a good sister/teacher you are Lain
I love the "Eats,Shoots,and leaves"/ "Eats shoots and leaves" example of the importance of punctuation.
I declare after all there is no enjoyment like reading! How much sooner one tires of anything than of a book! When I have a house of my own, I shall be miserable if I have not an excellent library.
Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
Ehh - "Eats, shoots and leaves" has gotten so much repeated use that it's lost its novelty.
My apologies for being unclear - I was using "latest masterpiece" sarcastically to refer to any piece I'm working on in general.
Por una cabeza
Si ella me olvida
Qué importa perderme
Mil veces la vida
Para qué vivir
I suppose it has been overused...ah well, still a valid example. Glad to hear you're at least not lacking confidence about your writing thereOriginally Posted by RobinHood3000
Ehh - "Eats, shoots and leaves" has gotten so much repeated use that it's lost its novelty.
My apologies for being unclear - I was using "latest masterpiece" sarcastically to refer to any piece I'm working on in general.
I declare after all there is no enjoyment like reading! How much sooner one tires of anything than of a book! When I have a house of my own, I shall be miserable if I have not an excellent library.
Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
decided to pick a couple more up before heading off to bed. As much as i would like to spend another 6 hours on LitNet, cant be a vampiress forever
Major writing is to say what has been seen, so that it need never be said again.
i found this both amusing and very, very touching. I felt an incredible attraction to the last part of this quote....i dont really know why.Perhaps it will come to me in the morrow.
When something can be read without effort, great effort has gone into its writing.
Clarification of writing has always been my greatest challenge, i like to call the early stuff "brain vomit"But when you show it to someone and they GET it, its a feeling of self-worth unlike any other...
I declare after all there is no enjoyment like reading! How much sooner one tires of anything than of a book! When I have a house of my own, I shall be miserable if I have not an excellent library.
Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice
Clarification of writing has always been my greatest challenge, i like to call the early stuff "brain vomit"
Yeah, when the others respond the way you hope they would, there really is no greater joy..
Dreams! adorations! illuminations! religions!
the whole boatload of sensitive!
— Allen Ginsberg, Howl II.
Further digging into dusty, almost forgotten books...
On Writing
Writing has laws of perspective, of light and shade, just as painting or music does. If you are born knowing them, fine. If not, learn them. Then rearrange the rules to suit yourself. - Truman CapoteIt is not wise to violate the rules until you know how to observe them - T.S. EliotStyle only comes after long hard practice - William StyronWhy Do You Write?We are all apprentices, in a craft where no one ever becomes a master - Ernest Hemingway
The whole duty of a writer is to please and satisfy himself - E. B. WhiteMine is a standard that has to be met - William FaulknerI write for it. For the sheer pleasure of it.- Eudora Welty
Writing Conditions
All you need, is a room without any particular interruptions - John Dos PassosI enjoy working in the morning, as soon as the first light as possible. There is no one to disturb you and it is cool or cold and you come to your work and warm as you write - Ernest HemingwayThe ideal view for daily writing, is the blank brick wall of a cold storage warehouse. - Edna Ferber
Read
Read, read, read...Just like a carpenter who works as an apprentice and studies the master. Read! You'll absorb it. Then write. If it is good, you'll find out. If it is not, throw it out the window. - William Faulkner
Dreams! adorations! illuminations! religions!
the whole boatload of sensitive
— Allen Ginsberg, Howl II.
I'm not sure this actually belongs in this thread.
It's from "Tradition and the Individual Talent," and I like it very much.
~T.S. EliotPoetry is not a turning loose of emotion, but an escape from emotion; it is not the expression of personality, but an escape from personality. But, of course, only those who have personality and emotions know what it means to want to escape from these things.
These fragments I have shored against my ruins
James Joyce, the pirate.Why don't you write books people can read? -Nora Barnacle
Insupportable claim: Reading my stories will make you a better person. Do your best to prove me right.http://www.online-literature.com/for...ad.php?t=20367
On the subject of intuitive music:
http://www.myspace.com/lehospitalrule
This is my friend, who composed those songs and played every single intrument you hear on those recordings, despite knowing no more about musical theory than a caffeinated cat. Perhpas this subject deseves its own thread.
What is the use of a violent kind of delightfulness if there is no pleasure in not getting tired of it.
- Gertrude Stein
A washerwoman with her basket; a rook; a red-hot poker; th purples and grey-greens of flowers: some common feeling which held the whole together.
- Virginia Woolf
Well, I don't believe that music and math are intuitive. Do you think one can just intuitively pick up differential equations? If so, I wouldn't have gotten a C in college. Nor was I intuitively able to play the saxophone.
Well, first he says it's not intuitive and now he says it is?
Frankly I don't believe that any skill is intuitive. One has to learn it. Perhaps there are those who learn it faster and better (geniuses), but nothing comes from nothing, as Shakespeare says.
why hasn't the world produced more shakespeares if "nothing comes from nothing"? the ability to write is as innate a talent as the accuracy and strength of a professional quarterback. sure, cultivation is necessary, but the predisposition for greatness is already there, etched in a person's DNA. a hard pill to swallow for many---shattering the "democratic" ideal that we all start out on an equal footing and progress the same. in his Tempting of America, former supreme court us justice nominee (& genius) Robert Bork called this 'nothing comes from nothing' notion a happy dream from happy dreamers.
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"He was nauseous with regret when he saw her face again, and when, as of yore, he pleaded and begged at her knees for the joy of her being. She understood Neal; she stroked his hair; she knew he was mad."
---Jack Kerouac, On The Road: The Original Scroll
I've got a quote that seems relevant to this. It's from Giambattista Vico's Scienza Nuova
It's only an appeal to authority on my part, but I do consider Vico an authority.In every pursuit men without natural aptitude succeed by obstinate study of technique, but in poetry he who lacks native ability cannot succeed by technique.
These fragments I have shored against my ruins
James Joyce, the pirate.
Insupportable claim: Reading my stories will make you a better person. Do your best to prove me right.
"Intuitive" - not the same as "born with," is it?
Por una cabeza
Si ella me olvida
Qué importa perderme
Mil veces la vida
Para qué vivir
inuitive - using or based on what one feels to be true without concious reasoning, instinctive.
No, not quite.
What is the use of a violent kind of delightfulness if there is no pleasure in not getting tired of it.
- Gertrude Stein
A washerwoman with her basket; a rook; a red-hot poker; th purples and grey-greens of flowers: some common feeling which held the whole together.
- Virginia Woolf
Thought so. Thanks.
Por una cabeza
Si ella me olvida
Qué importa perderme
Mil veces la vida
Para qué vivir
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