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    The last gasp of cool

    Some of the songs we love are branded embarrassing and calling students 'clever' is a no-no these days:
    ELO are the band we love, but hate to admit it, according to a list this week, while Top of the Pops became a victim of its unhip-ness. But when it comes to what's in and what's out, haven't we gone beyond cool, asks Alan Connor.

    Finding music used to need a bit of savvy and a lot of elbow grease: due attention to the appropriate radio shows and magazines, and a trip to a bigger town to find a shop with more than a few tapes.

    Now you can't move without being told about how many bazillions of members have signed up to community music sites; online bookshops will have more albums than any megastore can hold and sites like Last.FM even provide computers to eavesdrop on your listening habits and tell you what to try next.

    Which, you might have thought, doesn't leave a lot of room for the munificent tastemakers, mavens and with-it-ologists to helpfully guide us in making sure that our listening is stylistically correct.

    Well, you might have thought that, but you'd be wrong. Newspapers and TV bulletins this week are falling over themselves to tell us about the list of "guilty pleasures" compiled by Q magazine: songs which we were previously told it was uncool to like, but which are now apparently acceptable.

    On the one hand, this is the archetypal silly season story: a concoction of list format, press release, water-cooler talking point and a large dose of fluff.

    But there may not even really be a talking point.

    Cheesy music

    The idea of "guilty pleasures" can be traced back to BBC local radio DJ Sean Rowley, who started a search for songs that people liked "in spite of themselves".

    It catches the ears for a moment, and then you start to wonder: who on earth listens to music "in spite of themselves"?

    TOP FIVE GUILTY PLEASURES
    1. ELO - Livin' Thing
    2. Boston - More Than A Feeling
    3. S Club 7 - Don't Stop Movin'
    4. 10cc - I'm Not In Love
    5. Gary Glitter - Rock'n'Roll Part 2

    Source: Q Magazine

    Look through the CDs of normal people. and you're unlikely to find Yes, All Saints and Hall & Oates hidden away in a corner of shame: these are multi-platinum artists, after all.

    And when the Today programme ran an article on "cheesy music" this week, you could hear four million listeners saying "...but I didn't even know that ELO were forbidden. Do you mean I've been listening to them without the proper permissions?"

    The new establishment

    Moreover, who's doing the deciding? In the case of "Guilty Pleasures", the edicts are coming from the punk generation. For the benefit of younger readers, in the 1970s, various fans and critics declared a "Year Zero", pronouncing that music had gone stale.

    If you believe the tales of these elders, punk was necessary because every previous song of the 1970s had been a 14-minute epic about hobbits, performed in a tricky 11:8 time signature.

    Now those young punks have become the establishment, the previous diktats have been revised and suddenly "it's OK to love" Dire Straits.

    One set of rules has been replaced by another, and this is supposed to be a celebration of individual taste.

    The feature in Q isn't a poll; it's a list compiled by a magazine which has never exactly been cutting edge, and it contains some frankly bewildering entries.

    The Bangles? (If we're counting, the band was rated by Prince, a paragon of cool in anyone's book.) And Cyndi Lauper? (The same goes here, double, with regard to Miles Davis.)

    Some acts appear to have made the "guilty" list solely because they had haircuts that were fashionable during their heyday. Other tracks are guilty of little more than being fun.

    Cold hard sales

    It seems likely, though, that Meat Loaf, Cliff Richard and ELO are too busy counting their Himalayan heaps of cash to keep up with whether a few London scenesters have decided that they're "cool" again.

    The last few years of Top Of The Pops saw the programme lambasted by more spokespeople for cool, decrying the show for being in grave danger of not being trendy enough: of not being "relevant".

    The core of TOTP, though, was the songs which had built up the most cold hard sales since the previous edition. If British people bought cool records, they were in.

    You'd have to be frighteningly easily entertained to have liked every song on TOTP, but it did offer a central unarguable starting point.

    With even that gone, and with cultural commentators descending into incoherence, how is the music fan to pick a direction through the acres of back catalogue and hordes of new bands?

    Well, you could always try trusting your own ears. If a song is playing and its "cool rating" even crosses your mind, you should probably be listening a little less to pundits and a little more to actual music.
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    33 Things Kids Should Do Before They're 10

    1. Roll on your side down a grassy bank

    2. Make a mud pie

    3. Make your own modelling dough mixture

    4. Collect frogspawn

    5. Make perfume from flower petals

    6. Grow cress on a windowsill

    7. Make a papier mâché mask

    8. Build a sandcastle

    9. Climb a tree

    10. Make a den in the garden

    11. Make a painting using your hands and feet

    12. Organise your own teddy bears' picnic

    13. Have your face painted

    14. Play with a friend in the sand

    15. Make some bread

    16. Make snow angels

    17. Create a clay sculpture

    18. Take part in a scavenger hunt

    19. Camp out in the garden

    20. Bake a cake

    21. Feed a farm animal

    22. Pick some strawberries

    23. Play pooh sticks

    24. Recognise five different bird species

    25. Find some worms

    26. Ride a bike through a muddy puddle

    27. Make and fly a kite

    28. Plant a tree

    29. Build a nest out of grass and twigs

    30. Find ten different leaves in the park

    31. Grow vegetables

    32. Make breakfast in bed for your parents

    33. Make a mini assault course in your garden/the park
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    Hehe, I used to do this number five thingy a lot before ten:

    5. Make perfume from flower petals

    I woudn't mind trying it even now!!! Give me some Roses and I will make you the most wonderful scent ever!!!!
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    The cult of The Sound of Music

    As Andrew Lloyd Webber tries to find his Maria for a West End revival, why does this slice of camp continue to have such a profound grip over so many people?

    It's based on a true story. It's got children. Scenery. Singing nuns. It's even got Nazis. Little wonder The Sound of Music is one of a select group of films with both mass appeal and an enthusiastic cult following.

    The Sound of Music is the epitome of chirpy optimism and innocence. Even though the central element of the plot is a middle-aged man trying to pull a young nun, it's regarded as the height of wholesomeness.

    TRUTH AND FICTION

    The real von Trapps married in 1927, not 1938
    Escaped by train to Italy, not by foot to Switzerland
    Children's names were changed
    Edelweiss was written for the musical - it's not an anthem
    Eldest child was a son, not daughter
    It's been described as "Hegel with songs" and a "fantasy rewriting of the Reformation", and to some it's a self-help film, a ballad of the outsider and a paean to tolerance.


    For those who have been living in a cave for the past 40 years, the 1965 film sees Julie Andrews play novice nun Maria, sent out of her convent to be the governess of the von Trapp children, the seven daughters and sons of a retired navy captain.

    Maria and the captain fall in love, marry and are forced to flee the Anschluss, the annexation of Austria by Nazi Germany. In the film they hike over the mountains to Switzerland. In real life, the family got a train to Italy and then went on to the United States, where they toured successfully as the Trapp Family Singers.

    Children's courage

    Forty years on, an incarnation of the von Trapp Children is still touring, comprising four of the great grandchildren of the captain: Melanie von Trapp, 16, along with sisters Sofia, 18, Amanda, 15, and 11-year-old Justin. They will be coming to the UK next summer.

    "It is something that is just really wholesome," Melanie says, from the family's Montana home.

    "It's such a wonderful story and the fact it's all true makes it even more special. We aren't ashamed at all. We love the story.

    "It is the courage that the children and the whole family had to stand up against what was so wrong and so evil. Most of Austria was letting Hitler come into the country."

    Four decades on from the film, and Salzburg in Austria welcomes 300,000 Sound of Music fans a year. According to the authorities, the appeal of the film version of the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical runs Mozart close as an attraction.

    Joerg Steinitz worked as an assistant director on Robert Wise's film.

    "It contains everything that makes a good film for Americans - it is a migration film, there are children, there's music, the landscape, and Nazis. All you need."

    Swastika controversy

    But in Austria the film is far from being an institution, and there has long been a strange ambivalence towards it.

    "To be quite honest we were really afraid it would flop. I try and explain to Americans by saying it is as if a Japanese crew went to Nebraska to film a Western. It wouldn't generate a lot of interest," Mr Steinitz says.

    "It is a strange attitude for the Salzburg people. To say the least, they don't know it. On the first run the film was shown for only three days. A lot of people were upset that it didn't look Austrian."

    And, he says, there was controversy at the time over how the Anschluss would be portrayed. The director originally wanted 500 arriving German soldiers being greeted by an equal-sized crowd of extras, but the eventual compromise with the town meant a much smaller force, indifferent townspeople, and only three Swastika flags allowed.

    In the event filming ran late on the day the scene was shot and the flags baffled arriving officials at a nearby international conference. "The Soviet delegates weren't impressed," recalls Mr Steinitz.

    "But the political and historical picture is so much in favour of Austria. They should go down on their knees and thank The Sound of Music. It shows the whole country more or less as being anti-Nazi, and being raped by the Anschluss."

    In the film one of the children utters the immortal line: "Maybe the flag with the black spider on it makes people nervous."

    Doh a deer

    But it's probably safe to say that such political nuances are not a factor for many of the film's fans.

    COSTUME CHOICES

    Goats
    Nuns
    Brown paper packages tied up with string
    The hills
    Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes
    Maria
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    For seven years Sing-a-long-a-Sound-of-Music has toured the country, as well as a permanent berth at London's Prince Charles Cinema. Every month, zealots turn up in fancy dress. Many come as nuns, or as brown paper packages tied up with string. A few even wear fake grass to as "the hills".

    Supposedly inspired by group singing sessions in an Inverness old people's home as a form of group therapy, it's been heralded as a unique bonding experience.

    Abi Finley, 23, is one of 10 finalists competing to star in Andrew Lloyd Webber's revival in BBC One's talent quest How Do You Solve a Problem Like Maria? The Mancunian singer claims to have seen the film more than 1,000 times.

    "Maybe I should get some medical help. But it is such a beautiful story. The message behind it is confidence and believing in yourself.

    "It is great to be in a room of 500 people obsessed with the show. They sigh at the same time, laugh at the same time, well up at the same time. And it's got some sort of moral fibre."

    Gay Times arts editor Joe Heaney says that Maria's transformation is key to the story's enduring popularity.

    "It's about someone who is a complete outsider, she has been living in a convent and is very afraid to live in the real world and yet she is able to conquer her fears."

    And that is something that has universal appeal.
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    Watching Sound of Music again and again, and singing "I am sixteen" are a few of my favourite things.
    I sang of leaves, of leaves of gold, and leaves of gold there grew.

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    OK, we can't remember the name of the artist, but we remember him making pieces of art with human figures also slimmed like that. We think that he was a post-war artist, showing how hungry and in how bad conditions the people were.
    If you believe even a half of this post, you are severely mistaken.

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    Surgery for museum's 'ugly' fish


    A fish at a Scottish museum has undergone surgery after visitors complained it was too ugly. A harmless but unsightly growth was removed from the goldfish, which was on show at the Royal Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh.

    The operation was paid for using coins thrown into the fish pond at the popular visitor attraction.

    A spokeswoman for the museum would not say how many complaints had been made about the fish.

    Scientists decided to remove the unsightly growth after people expressed concern.

    The lump, which did not seem to distress the fish in any way, was removed along with one of its eyes.
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    Things you didn’t know about WARS & DISPUTES

    1. The shortest war on record took place in 1896 when Zanzibar surrendered to Britain after 38 minutes.

    2. The longest war – called The 100-year War – between Britain and France lasted 116 years, ending in 1453.

    3. Since 1815 there have been 210 interstate wars. And since 1495, no 25-year period has passed without war.

    4. The NATO attack on Serbia in 1999 during the Kosovo war killed more animals than people.

    5. The very first bomb that the Allies dropped on Berlin in World War II killed the only elephant in the Berlin zoo.

    6. When killed in battle, Japanese officers are, by tradition, promoted to the next highest rank.

    7. The first reference to a handgun was made in an English order form for iron bullets in the year 1326.

    8. The Peloponnesian War in 500 BC, saw Spartans use sulphur to beat enemy – the first instance of chemical warfare.

    9. Global spending on defence totals more than $700 billion. Global spending on education is less than $100 billion.

    10. In 1997, the US exported $15.6 billion in arms to developing countries, 54% of which went to non-democratic regimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madhuri View Post
    3. Since 1815 there have been 210 interstate wars. And since 1495, no 25-year period has passed without war.
    This is the most interesting of all the facts listed. I've come to the conclusion that it is within the nature of humanity to be at war. It also tells you you better think about the defense of your country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    This is the most interesting of all the facts listed. I've come to the conclusion that it is within the nature of humanity to be at war. It also tells you you better think about the defense of your country.
    I agree!

    Another fact that was interesting to me was the amount of money spent on defence, it shows how insecure nations are, that they have to spent more on warfare than education.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madhuri View Post
    I agree!

    Another fact that was interesting to me was the amount of money spent on defence, it shows how insecure nations are, that they have to spent more on warfare than education.
    Yeah, but Madhuri. Given that there has always been wars and given the threats out there, don't you think it makes sense to spend on defense?
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