Do Not Swear

[Stanislaw]

garr, it be gold or nuthin fer me lass.

[rachel]

oh aye I fergot ye are a higher class pyrate. in that case I be keepin that black parl and makin me way over to a jewry shop. I be too tired to roam the seas as I must be back to make me scurvy family dinner. so I be stealin the best gold and bringin it to ya dastardly stan. oh and I be grateful if you kin visit me in jail afterwards. I need to keep up me rum.

[Scheherazade]

Dear All,

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[Stanislaw]

Dear All,

This thread has been posted by the Admin as a reminder about Forum Rules and related discussions. Please post in other threads such as Live Chat for daily conversations.

Thank you!

sorry m'am.

[rachel]

aye lassie will do

[Fontainhas]

Its about time. Only the weak minded need to swear to get their point across.

Hum I agree. I never swear, and anyways, it's extremely unpolite for a lady to talk with that manner. I only say s*** once in a while, but that's hardly a swear word, at least in my country...

[Xamonas Chegwe]

This thread should be called, "Don't use swear words that Americans understand". There are plenty of words that we use in England that get past the filters.

I am of course, far too polite to use any of them. I'm just not that kind of wanker.

[TodHackett]

K. Needs to be said.

A few days ago, in this forum:

http://www.online-literature.com/for...396#post164396

I posted the following:

'She's a half-hearted little *****, isn't she?
She ain't so hot. Look at her.
She ain't nothin' now but Democracy.'"

This text is from a poem by a published, award-winning poet, Bart Baxter. But the filter mangled it. So, I posted a clarification (if you're really interested in knowing how, go there). I tried to be subtle about it.

So, first thing--

Normally, I agree with the filter thing-- and I work as an information professional. I think a filter is necessary. Totally. No question. But here I was quoting a published work, with the intention of discussing said work. And yes, the poem's coarse. And yes, it's gratuitous. And yes, it's abhorrent on all kinds of levels. But that's b/c the poet wrote it that way. He had a point in doing it, and it's essential to the work. ****, I could name half a dozen poets (Nikki Giovanni, Allen Ginsburg, Ezra Pound, Charles Baudelaire, Arthur Rimbaud, Jack Kerouac... see?) who used "profane" words as devices in their poetry. So, if I'm going to discuss that poetry, sometimes it's necessary to clarify, and that (sometimes) means dodging the filter. But I won't do it often, and only when it's necessary, and I will try to do it in a way that is not blatant.

Second thing--

Its about time. Only the weak minded need to swear to get their point across.

TOTALLY disagree. See above.

Hope this doesn't get me expelled or branded in some way. But really, I'm pretty passionate about this, and I felt it needed to be said.

[RobinHood3000]

Well, it isn't as if we're dim-witted enough not to know what it says or means in a quoted work, right?

[TodHackett]

RH3K--

Didn't mean to insult anyone. Sorry if that's how I came off.

Thing is, there are at least two words I can think of that fit here (both in terms of # of letters and in terms of the rhyme scheme and feel of the poem), and there are probably far, far more than that. Take a look at my original post. My effort was to quote the text as the author wrote it, and so I wanted to be specific.

Didn't mean to offend... or if I did, I meant to do it in order to provoke intelligent, civil discussion.

[TodHackett]

I did go a bit overboard with the bolds and italics. Sorry.

[RobinHood3000]

Don't worry, I didn't mean it in an insulted tone--I know what you meant, I was just making a point. No harsh feelings whatsoever, Tod.

[Logos]

Tod, it doesn't matter, world-renowned published poetry or just foaming-at-the-mouth raving, it all gets filtered, it's part of the software. Nobody said you can't discuss a poem that happens to contain swearwords

[Stanislaw]

Roses are #$%$# red
Violets ared @#$%@#^ blue
and I think $#%@# is #$%#@% a #$!@$ pickup truck.



heh, just joking.

Poetry as such uses these expressions to shock its readers into "getting the point" but is it really needed, I mean ozymandeus is a powerfull piece of prose and yet there is no "I am Ozzyman, the baddest $%@#$ in the land @#$%@#$#$ look on my #$%@# works ye #$%@# mighty and kiss my $%@# you #$%#@ pig eating sons o #$%#$%."

I stand by my opinion: tis not needed.

[RobinHood3000]

Is that Mr. Osbourne's rendition?