View Poll Results: 'The French Lieutenant's Woman': Final Verdict

Voters
9. You may not vote on this poll
  • * Waste of time. Wouldn't recommend it.

    0 0%
  • ** Didn't like it much.

    0 0%
  • *** Average.

    2 22.22%
  • **** It is a good book.

    1 11.11%
  • ***** Liked it very much. Would strongly recommend it.

    6 66.67%
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 17

Thread: Remembering John Fowles: The French Lieutenant's Woman

  1. #1
    Pièce de Résistance Scheherazade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Tweet @ScherLitNet
    Posts
    23,903

    Remembering John Fowles: The French Lieutenant's Woman

    Please post your thoughts and questions on The French Lieutenant's Woman by John Fowles here.



    Book Club Procedures
    ~
    "It is not that I am mad; it is only that my head is different from yours.”
    ~


  2. #2
    Super papayahed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    17,056
    I've started it. My first impression is that it is a better version of Reurn of the Native.
    Do, or do not. There is no try. - Yoda


  3. #3
    Super papayahed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    17,056
    Sheesh, I need my dictionary for this book. Good Gravy!!
    Do, or do not. There is no try. - Yoda


  4. #4
    Daydream Believer Kiwi Shelf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Canada = Heavenly Bliss
    Posts
    606
    o_o
    I have to read this for university next semester... is it going to be bad?
    "Hear and you forget; see and you remember; do and you understand."

  5. #5
    Good morning, Campers! Jay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Czech Republic
    Posts
    7,251
    So far I quite like it. Still trying to figure out Sarah and Charles and if they're about to end up together or I'm just seeing things... it's kind of strange to have the author interrupt the story to tell you a thing or two, for example chapter 13... but I quite like him expmaining things with the footnotes.
    I have a plan: attack!

  6. #6
    somewhere else Helga's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    on the ice in the middle of the sea
    Posts
    2,741
    Blog Entries
    351
    I read it a year ago and love it, not my fave book by Fowles but a very good book indeed.
    I hope death is joyful, and I hope I'll never return -Frida Khalo

    If I seem insensitive to what you are going through, understand it's the way I am- Mr. Spock

    Personally, I think that the unique and supreme delight lies in the certainty of doing 'evil'–and men and women know from birth that all pleasure lies in evil. - Baudelaire

  7. #7
    Lady of Smilies Nightshade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Now that would be telling it, wouldnt it?
    Posts
    13,715
    Blog Entries
    144
    how longg have we got to read this??
    My mission in life is to make YOU smile
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "The time has come," the Walrus said,"To talk of many things:

    Forum Rules- You know you want to read 'em

    |Litnet Challange status = 5/260
    |currently reading

  8. #8
    Super papayahed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    17,056
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Shelf
    o_o
    I have to read this for university next semester... is it going to be bad?
    No, it's pretty good so far. It's pretty funny that all of chapter 13 is just the author talking about his characters..
    Do, or do not. There is no try. - Yoda


  9. #9
    Daydream Believer Kiwi Shelf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Canada = Heavenly Bliss
    Posts
    606
    I like this, have lots of discussion, I have to do a presentation for that class on one thing we have read. I am thinking I want to do this one... I will have a lot of people to aid me
    "Hear and you forget; see and you remember; do and you understand."

  10. #10
    Pièce de Résistance Scheherazade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Tweet @ScherLitNet
    Posts
    23,903
    I am onto Chapter 14 and got really hooked on this book. I love the sarcastic approach to the Victorian society and literati. Any thoughts on the following passage (end of Chapter 10):
    Charles did not know it, but in those brief poised seconds above the waiting sea, in that luminous evening silence broken only by the waves' quiet wash, the whole Victorian Age was lost. And I do not mean he had taken the wrong path.
    Also, any thoughts on the Chapter 13, when the narrator suggests that the role of novelists has changed since the Victorian Era:
    The novelist is still a god, since he creates (and not even the most aleatory avant-garde modern novel has managed to extirpate its author completely); what has changed is that we are no longer the gods of Victorian image, omniscient and decreeing; but in the new theological image, with freedom our first principle, not authority.
    Do the writers have the freedom to shape their characters or they have to follow their lead?
    ~
    "It is not that I am mad; it is only that my head is different from yours.”
    ~


  11. #11
    Lady of Smilies Nightshade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Now that would be telling it, wouldnt it?
    Posts
    13,715
    Blog Entries
    144
    Ive just started it and I have rto say I LOVE it so far
    My mission in life is to make YOU smile
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "The time has come," the Walrus said,"To talk of many things:

    Forum Rules- You know you want to read 'em

    |Litnet Challange status = 5/260
    |currently reading

  12. #12
    Good morning, Campers! Jay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Czech Republic
    Posts
    7,251
    Finished it. Liked it a lot! The live chat is sure going to be interesting.
    I have a plan: attack!

  13. #13
    The style of this book is the thing that always grabs me - it is written like a Victorian novel - reads almost like Hardy, or one of the Brontes at times - and is full of intricate, period detail - but then the author floors you by mentioning far more recent events - for instance, commenting that one of the characters would live until the day that Hitler invaded Poland. Genius! I love this book! - "Liked it very much. Would strongly recommend it." does not go nearly far enough - My life would be infinitely poorer in a world without it.

    I've only just joined the forum, so missed the mass-reading, but in tribute to John Fowles I am re-reading it at this moment anyway - and savouring each gloriously crafted line.
    Last edited by Xamonas Chegwe; 12-21-2005 at 09:24 PM.

  14. #14
    Pièce de Résistance Scheherazade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Tweet @ScherLitNet
    Posts
    23,903
    This has been one of the best reads of the Book Club. Fowles experts builds up the story, develops the characters, always leaving the reader asking for more! XC, I agree with you that the inserts are very interesting and entertaining. I especially liked the sections he discusses the role and abilities of a writer.

    And what an ending!
    ~
    "It is not that I am mad; it is only that my head is different from yours.”
    ~


  15. #15
    Someone asked for a comparison of the book and film on another thread. My humble attempt follows.


    The film is probably about as good an adaptation as could have been made but falls short - as most films do - by being about 8 hours too short to do the book justice!

    The book uses footnotes, anachronisms and blatant references to remind the reader that they are reading a book and that the events taking place are not real. This gives a surreal edge to what is basically a fairly straightforward, (albeit, beautifully crafted) tragic, love story.

    The film can't employ any of these methods (not without a more or less constant voiceover - which would have been too annoying) and so a completely different approach to the same end is employed. The story within a story gives the same sense of detatchment as the book quite cleverly. It's impossible to forget that Charles & Sarah aren't real people (and, through extension, that the "actors", Mike & Anna, aren't real either) even though everything you expect of a film cries out for suspension of disbelief.

    It was very bold of John Fowles to write his book in this way and equally bold of the films director & writer to find their own route to the same place. I would love to know whether the idea for the films style came from Pinter or Karel Reisz, the director.

    Please read the book. It is a true modern classic - a very overworked term but justified in this case.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. The Magus (John Fowles)
    By Diceman in forum General Literature
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 11-07-2006, 12:42 PM
  2. John Fowles, I had no idea...
    By Helga in forum General Literature
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 12-22-2005, 04:53 PM
  3. Remembering John Fowles
    By Scheherazade in forum Forum Book Club
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 11-20-2005, 08:33 PM
  4. Writer John Fowles dies aged 79
    By Scheherazade in forum General Literature
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 11-10-2005, 11:15 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •