The implication is that the US and Saudi Arabia were involved in the 9/11 attacks.Originally Posted by YesNo
The implication is that the US and Saudi Arabia were involved in the 9/11 attacks.
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
Yes. That's what it sounds like.
The video mentioned that Trump would release those 28 pages if he were elected. I've got my first and so far only reason to vote for Trump. I don't have any reason so far to vote for Clinton. That means it's 1 to 0, Trump vs Clinton. Interestingly I hear these are the most disliked candidates in polling history which fits my apolitical perspective of them: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-...b_9721128.html
Seriously, you'd vote for a man that plans on walling off our southern border with Mexico, deporting ten million illegals, banning all muslims from immigrating to America, putting women in prison for having an abortion, and all the other nutty promises... because you believe in a conspiracy theory you watched on YouTube?!
You sir, are part of a mob of morons following a lunatic.
YesNo is entitled to his opinion, as is yourself, but unfortunately this has strayed into the realm of present-day politics which I was hoping to avoid by keeping it within the historical context of 9/11.
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
I sometimes think that myself.
However, now that I've heard about the existence of those 28 pages, I would like to know what is in them. I don't care who releases them. I'd also like to know about the Apollo missions.
The problem with the redacted 28 pages is that Obama has said that he would be prepared to release them on condition that it didn't compromise national security.
National security is a catch-all phrase that can cover a multitude of sins. If, for example, release of the unedited documents was considered likely to lead to civil unrest, then the national security card could, and probably would, be played so that only the most innocuous passages were made public.
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
As I see it there are four possibilities:
1) There is nothing to suggest either the Saudis or the US knew about the attacks in advance. No one needs to be protected by the secrecy of the document.
2) Those pages claim the Saudis knew to some extent what was going to happen but no one else did. Keeping the documents secret is to protect the Saudis.
3) Those pages claim even Bush and company knew something was going to happen but they did not know what was going to happen.
4) Those pages claim that Bush and company knew all the details.
I suspect 2 or 3 might be the case. However, I do recall the intensity of the arguments to show that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq even when the UN inspectors could not find evidence of WMD. So maybe the truth is closer to 4. However, if it is 4, I am surprised the secret has not been leaked by now. Maybe it has, but I am too politically naive to have seen it.
Yes, the WMD excuse and the search for Bin Laden casts doubt on the blame being directed at Iraq but there can be little doubt that 9/11 gave the US government carte blanche to attack any Muslim country without worrying too much about public disapproval.
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
Bin Laden was a Saudi Arabian. That made me wonder why we were pointing the finger at Iraq.
The problem with secrets is they justify anything my imagination might come up with. I wonder what really happened now that I know there is a mystery. But I am only curious. The Saudis will be punished enough when the price of oil finally tanks.
Yes, this cold war move by Obama also hits other countries than Russia, Norway is one as well. The Saudi Dictatorship is another.
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