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    The Afternoon of a Faun

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    by Stephane Mallarme'

    Translation from French by Roger Fry

    Paintings by Rebecca A. Barrington

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    These nymphs I would perpetuate.

    So clear

    Their light carnation, that it floats in the air

    Heavy with tufted slumbers.


    Was it a dream I loved?

    My doubt, a heap of ancient night, is finishing

    In many a subtle branch, which, left the true

    Wood itself, proves, alas! that all alone I gave

    Myself for triumph the ideal sin of roses.

    Let me reflect


    . . .if the girls of which you tell

    Figure a wish of your fabulous senses!

    Faun, the illusion escapes from the blue eyes

    And cold, like a spring in tears, of the chaster one:

    But, the other, all sighs, do you say she contrasts

    Like a breeze of hot day in your fleece!

    But no! through the still, weary faintness

    Choking with heat the fresh morn if it strives,

    No water murmurs but what my flute pours

    On the chord sprinkled thicket; and the sole wind


    Prompt to exhale from my two pipes, before

    It scatters the sound in a waterless shower,

    Is, on the horizon's unwrinkled space,

    The visible serene artificial breath

    Of inspiration, which regains the sky.


    Oh you, Sicilian shores of a calm marsh

    That more than the suns my vanity havocs,

    Silent beneath the flowers of sparks, RELATE

    "That here I was cutting the hollow reeds tamed

    By talent, when on the dull gold of the distant

    Verdures dedicating their vines to the springs,


    There waves an animal whiteness at rest:

    And that to the prelude where the pipes first stir .... {excerpt}

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre Menard View Post
    It would be fantastic if we could get some more people to participate in the thread. There's a wealth of older poetry that I feel doesn't get talked about enough (guys like Traherne, Herrick, Spenser, Herbert, etc) so it'd be cool if there were more and more samples - not that it has to be only from that sort of era, I actually quite like the free-wheeling nature of the thread and how it seemed to range from Ancient times to the 19th century.
    Hear, hear!
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    Nice choice North Star. I like Herrick a lot, and I think I will go with one of his poems myself:

    Delight in Disorder:

    A sweet disorder in the dress
    Kindles in clothes a wantonness;
    A lawn about the shoulders thrown
    Into a fine distraction;
    An erring lace, which here and there
    Enthrals the crimson stomacher;
    A cuff neglectful, and thereby
    Ribands to flow confusedly;
    A winning wave, deserving note,
    In the tempestuous petticoat;
    A careless shoe-string, in whose tie
    I see a wild civility:
    Do more bewitch me, than when art
    Is too precise in every part.
    A good choice, as well.


    Katherine, Lady Dyer: [Epitaph on Sir William Dyer] (1621)

    My dearest dust could not thy hasty day
    Afford thy drowzy patience leave to stay
    One hower longer; so that we might either
    Sate up, or gone to bedd together?
    But since thy finisht labor hath possest
    Thy weary limbs with early rest,
    Enjoy it sweetly; and thy widdowe bride
    Shall soone repose her by thy slumbering side;
    Whose business, now is only to prepare
    My nightly dress, and call to prayre:
    Mine eyes wax heavy and the day growes old
    The dew falls thick, my bloud growes cold;
    Draw, draw the closed curtaynes: and make room;
    My deare, my dearest dust; I come, I come.

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    ^^^ Nice!


    I'm gonna jump forward a couple hundred years:

    In Memoriam A. H. H. OBIIT MDCCCXXXIII: 5: Alfred Lord Tennyson

    I sometimes hold it half a sin
    To put in words the grief I feel;
    For words, like Nature, half reveal
    And half conceal the Soul within.

    But, for the unquiet heart and brain,
    A use in measured language lies;
    The sad mechanic exercise,
    Like dull narcotics, numbing pain.

    In words, like weeds, I'll wrap me o'er,
    Like coarsest clothes against the cold;
    But that large grief which these enfold
    Is given in outline and no more.
    Vladimir: (sententious.) To every man his little cross. (He sighs.) Till he dies. (Afterthought.) And is forgotten.

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    ^Beautiful.

    And I'll jump back again a half a century or so.

    Oliver Goldsmith: from The Deserted Village (1770)

    Sweet was the sound, when oft at evening's close,
    Up yonder hill the village murmur rose;
    There, as I past with careless steps and slow,
    The mingling notes came soften'd from below;
    The swain responsive as the milk-maid sung,
    The sober herd that lowed to meet their young;
    The noisy geese that gabbled o'er the pool,
    The playful children just let loose from school;
    The watch-dog's voice that bayed the whispering wind,
    And the loud laugh that spoke the vacant mind,
    These all in sweet confusion sought the shade,
    And filled each pause the nightingale had made.
    But now the sounds of population fail,
    No cheerful murmurs fluctuate in the gale,
    No busy steps the grass-grown foot-way tread,
    For all the bloomy flush of life is fled.
    All but yon widowed, solitary thing
    That feebly bends beside the plashy spring;
    She, wretched matron, forced in age, for bread,
    To strip the brook with mantling cresses spread,
    To pick her wintry faggot from the thorn,
    To seek her nightly shed, and weep till morn;
    She only left of all the harmless train,
    The sad historian of the pensive plain.

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    JOHN KEATS: On First Looking into Chapman's Homer

    Much have I travell'd in the realms of gold,
    And many goodly states and kingdoms seen;
    Round many western islands have I been
    Which bards in fealty to Apollo hold.
    Oft of one wide expanse had I been told
    That deep-brow'd Homer ruled as his demesne;
    Yet did I never breathe its pure serene
    Till I heard Chapman speak out loud and bold:
    Then felt I like some watcher of the skies
    When a new planet swims into his ken;
    Or like stout Cortez when with eagle eyes
    He star'd at the Pacific - and all his men
    Look'd at each other with a wild surmise -
    Silent, upon a peak in Darien.

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    ^^^ That makes me want to re-read Keats as soon as possible. Great poem.

    I've been away for a few days, but I'm back with a poem from Thomas Traherne. A bit longer than the other ones I've posted so far, but I enjoy it a lot.


    The Salutation by Thomas Traherne



    These little limbs,
    These eyes and hands which here I find,
    These rosy cheeks wherewith my life begins,
    Where have ye been? behind
    What curtain were ye from me hid so long?
    Where was, in what abyss, my speaking tongue?

    When silent I
    So many thousand, thousand years
    Beneath the dust did in a chaos lie,
    How could I smiles or tears,
    Or lips or hands or eyes or ears perceive?
    Welcome ye treasures which I now receive.

    I that so long
    Was nothing from eternity,
    Did little think such joys as ear or tongue
    To celebrate or see:
    Such sounds to hear, such hands to feel, such feet,
    Beneath the skies on such a ground to meet.

    New burnished joys,
    Which yellow gold and pearls excel!
    Such sacred treasures are the limbs in boys,
    In which a soul doth dwell;
    Their organizèd joints and azure veins
    More wealth include than all the world contains.

    From dust I rise,
    And out of nothing now awake;
    These brighter regions which salute mine eyes,
    A gift from God I take.
    The earth, the seas, the light, the day, the skies,
    The sun and stars are mine if those I prize.

    Long time before
    I in my mother’s womb was born,
    A God, preparing, did this glorious store,
    The world, for me adorn.
    Into this Eden so divine and fair,
    So wide and bright, I come His son and heir.

    A stranger here
    Strange things doth meet, strange glories see;
    Strange treasures lodged in this fair world appear,
    Strange all and new to me;
    But that they mine should be, who nothing was,
    That strangest is of all, yet brought to pass.
    Vladimir: (sententious.) To every man his little cross. (He sighs.) Till he dies. (Afterthought.) And is forgotten.

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    Hadn't read Traherne before, but that is great.

    Another one from Traherne:

    Eden

    A learned and a happy ignorance
    Divided me
    From all the vanity,
    From all the sloth, care, pain, and sorrow that advance
    The madness and the misery
    Of men. No error, no distraction I
    Saw soil the earth, or overcloud the sky.

    I knew not that there was a serpent’s sting,
    Whose poison shed
    On men, did overspread
    The world; nor did I dream of such a thing
    As sin, in which mankind lay dead.
    They all were brisk and living wights to me,
    Yea, pure and full of immortality.

    Joy, pleasure, beauty, kindness, glory, love,
    Sleep, day, life, light,
    Peace, melody, my sight,
    My ears and heart did fill and freely move.
    All that I saw did me delight.
    The Universe was then a world of treasure,
    To me an universal world of pleasure.

    Unwelcome penitence was then unknown,
    Vain costly toys,
    Swearing and roaring boys,
    Shops, markets, taverns, coaches, were unshown;
    So all things were that drown’d my joys:
    No thorns chok’d up my path, nor hid the face
    Of bliss and beauty, nor eclips’d the place.

    Only what Adam in his first estate,
    Did I behold;
    Hard silver and dry gold
    As yet lay under ground; my blessed fate
    Was more acquainted with the old
    And innocent delights which he did see
    In his original simplicity.

    Those things which first his Eden did adorn,
    My infancy
    Did crown. Simplicity
    Was my protection when I first was born.
    Mine eyes those treasures first did see
    Which God first made. The first effects of love
    My first enjoyments upon earth did prove;

    And were so great, and so divine, so pure;
    So fair and sweet,
    So true; when I did meet
    Them here at first, they did my soul allure,
    And drew away my infant feet
    Quite from the works of men; that I might see
    The glorious wonders of the Deity.
    Last edited by North Star; 05-06-2015 at 04:29 PM.

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    That was going to be my other Traherne choice. A lovely poem! He's definitely an under appreciated Poet.



    I'm not a religious man, but I do love religious imagery in art, and there were very few better than those great religious poets of the 17th century and 18th centuries when it came to passionate and vigorous imagery.


    The Day of Judgement by Isaac Watts


    When the fierce north wind with his airy forces
    Rears up the Baltic to a foaming fury,
    And the red lightning with a storm of hail comes
    Rushing amain down,

    How the poor sailors stand amazed and tremble,
    While the hoarse thunder, like a bloody trumpet,
    Roars a loud onset to the gaping waters,
    Quick to devour them!

    Such shall the noise be and the wild disorder,
    (If things eternal may be like these earthly)
    Such the dire terror, when the great Archangel
    Shakes the creation,

    Tears the strong pillars of the vault of heaven,
    Breaks up old marble, the repose of princes;
    See the graves open, and the bones arising,
    Flames all around ’em!

    Hark, the shrill outcries of the guilty wretches!
    Lively bright horror and amazing anguish
    Stare through their eyelids, while the living worm lies
    Gnawing within them.

    Thoughts like old vultures prey upon their heart-strings,
    And the smart twinges, when the eye beholds the
    Lofty Judge frowning, and a flood of vengeance
    Rolling afore him.

    Hopeless immortals! how they scream and shiver,
    While devils push them to the pit wide-yawning
    Hideous and gloomy, to receive them headlong
    Down to the center.

    Stop here, my fancy: (all away ye horrid
    Doleful ideas); come, arise to Jesus;
    How He sits God-like! and the saints around him
    Throned, yet adoring!

    Oh may I sit there when he comes triumphant
    Dooming the nations! then ascend to glory
    While our hosannas all along the passage
    Shout the Redeemer.
    Vladimir: (sententious.) To every man his little cross. (He sighs.) Till he dies. (Afterthought.) And is forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre Menard View Post
    That was going to be my other Traherne choice. A lovely poem! He's definitely an under appreciated Poet.

    I'm not a religious man, but I do love religious imagery in art, and there were very few better than those great religious poets of the 17th century and 18th centuries when it came to passionate and vigorous imagery.
    I am an areligious man as well, and also love much religious art. Splendid choice, that Watts piece, too.

    Something seasonal:


    Henry Howard, Earl of Surrey (1517 – 19 January 1547 / Norfolk)

    The soote season, that bud and bloom forth bringes,
    With green hath clad the hill and eke the vale:
    The nightingale with fethers new she singes:
    The turtle to her make hath told her tale:
    Somer is come, for every spray nowe springes,
    The hart hath hong his olde hed on the pale:
    The buck in brake his winter cote he flinges:
    The fishes flote with newe repaired scale:
    The adder all her sloughe away she slinges:
    The swift swallow pursueth the flyes smale:
    The busy bee her honye now she minges:
    Winter is worne that was the flowers bale:
    And thus I see, among these pleasant things
    Eche care decayes, and yet my sorow springes.
    Last edited by North Star; 05-15-2015 at 02:21 PM.

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    Howard is definitely a poet I have to check out more of. Another quality choice!


    On a Drop of Dew - Andrew Marvell

    See how the orient dew,
    Shed from the bosom of the morn
    Into the blowing roses,
    Yet careless of its mansion new,
    For the clear region where ’twas born
    Round in itself incloses:
    And in its little globe’s extent,
    Frames as it can its native element.
    How it the purple flow’r does slight,
    Scarce touching where it lies,
    But gazing back upon the skies,
    Shines with a mournful light,
    Like its own tear,
    Because so long divided from the sphere.
    Restless it rolls and unsecure,
    Trembling lest it grow impure,
    Till the warm sun pity its pain,
    And to the skies exhale it back again.
    So the soul, that drop, that ray
    Of the clear fountain of eternal day,
    Could it within the human flow’r be seen,
    Remembering still its former height,
    Shuns the sweet leaves and blossoms green,
    And recollecting its own light,
    Does, in its pure and circling thoughts, express
    The greater heaven in an heaven less.
    In how coy a figure wound,
    Every way it turns away:
    So the world excluding round,
    Yet receiving in the day,
    Dark beneath, but bright above,
    Here disdaining, there in love.
    How loose and easy hence to go,
    How girt and ready to ascend,
    Moving but on a point below,
    It all about does upwards bend.
    Such did the manna’s sacred dew distill,
    White and entire, though congealed and chill,
    Congealed on earth : but does, dissolving, run
    Into the glories of th’ almighty sun.
    Vladimir: (sententious.) To every man his little cross. (He sighs.) Till he dies. (Afterthought.) And is forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre Menard View Post
    Howard is definitely a poet I have to check out more of. Another quality choice!


    On a Drop of Dew - Andrew Marvell
    I haven't read too much, or enough, Howard either yet. And a good one from you too.


    [4] from Certain Sonnets - Sir Philip Sidney


    The Nightingale as soone as Aprill bringeth
    Unto her rested sense a perfect waking,
    While late bare earth, proud of new clothing springeth,
    Sings out her woes, a thorne her song-booke making:
    And mournfully bewailing,
    Her throate in tunes expresseth
    What griefe her breast opresseth,
    For Theseus force on her chaste will prevailing.
    O Philomela faire, ô take some gladnesse,
    That here is juster cause of plaintfull sadnesse:
    Thine earth now springs, mine fadeth,
    Thy thorne without, my thorne my thorne my heart invadeth.

    Alas she hath no other cause of anguish
    But Theseus love, on her by strong hand wrokne,
    Wherein she suffring all her spirits languish,
    Full womanlike complaines her will was brokne.
    But I who dayly craving,
    Cannot have to content me,
    Have more cause to lament me,
    Since wanting is more woe then too much having.
    O Philomela faire, ô take some gladnesse,
    That here is juster cause of plaintfull sadnesse:
    Thine earth now springs, mine fadeth,
    Thy thorne without, my thorne my thorne my heart invadeth.
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    Very fine choice. I might keep with the Sidney flavour:


    Astrophil and Stella 30


    With how sad steps, O moon, thou climb’st the skies!
    How silently, and with how wan a face!
    What! may it be that even in heavenly place
    That busy archer his sharp arrows tries?
    Sure, if that long-with-love-acquainted eyes
    Can judge of love, thou feel’st a lover’s case:
    I read it in thy looks; thy languished grace
    To me, that feel the like, thy state descries.
    Then, even of fellowship, O Moon, tell me,
    Is constant love deemed there but want of wit?
    Are beauties there as proud as here they be?
    Do they above love to be loved, and yet
    Those lovers scorn whom that love doth possess?
    Do they call ‘virtue’ there—ungratefulness?



    I really love those first two lines. Simple, but effective.


    On a side note, it really bothers me that every time I go to post, it changes the structure of the poem. As in, it just immediately aligns the poem left, even when I type it out in it's proper pattern. For example, the last two lines should start just under about the 'o' of 'do'. There must be away to post the poem the way it actually looks without linnet changing it.
    Last edited by Pierre Menard; 05-29-2015 at 05:18 PM.
    Vladimir: (sententious.) To every man his little cross. (He sighs.) Till he dies. (Afterthought.) And is forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre Menard View Post
    Very fine choice. I might keep with the Sidney flavour:

    Astrophil and Stella 30


    I really love those first two lines. Simple, but effective.


    On a side note, it really bothers me that every time I go to post, it changes the structure of the poem. As in, it just immediately aligns the poem left, even when I type it out in it's proper pattern. For example, the last two lines should start just under about the 'o' of 'do'. There must be away to post the poem the way it actually looks without linnet changing it.
    A beautiful choice indeed.

    Yes, it irks me as well. Oh well, no need for any such devices in this one:


    Katherine Philips: EPITAPH. On her Son H.P. at St. Syth's Church where her body also lies Interred

    What on Earth deserves our trust?
    Youth and Beauty both are dust.
    Long we gathering are with pain,
    What one moment calls again.
    Seven years childless marriage past,
    A Son, a son is born at last:
    So exactly lim'd and fair,
    Full of good Spirits, Meen, and Air,
    As a long life promised,
    Yet, in less than six weeks dead.
    Too promising, too great a mind
    In so small room to be confin'd:
    Therfore, as fit in Heav'n to dwell,
    He quickly broke the Prison shell.
    So the subtle Alchimist,
    Can't with
    Hermes Seal resist
    The powerful spirit's subtler fight,
    But t'will bid him long good night.
    And so the Sun if it arise
    Half so glorious as his Eyes,
    Like this Infant, takes a shrowd,
    Buried in a morning Cloud.

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    And after a lengthy absence, I have returned, to once again attempt to resurrect this thread. I quite like this from Sir Walter Raleigh:



    A Vision Upon the Fairy Queen


    Methought I saw the grave where Laura lay,
    Within that temple where the vestal flame
    Was wont to burn; and, passing by that way,
    To see that buried dust of living fame,
    Whose tomb fair Love, and fairer Virtue kept:
    All suddenly I saw the Fairy Queen;
    At whose approach the soul of Petrarch wept,
    And, from thenceforth, those Graces were not seen:
    For they this queen attended; in whose stead
    Oblivion laid him down on Laura’s hearse:
    Hereat the hardest stones were seen to bleed,
    And groans of buried ghosts the heavens did pierce:
    Where Homer’s spright did tremble all for grief,
    And cursed the access of that celestial thief!
    Vladimir: (sententious.) To every man his little cross. (He sighs.) Till he dies. (Afterthought.) And is forgotten.

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    My Picture Left in Scotland

    "I now think love is rather deaf, than blind,
    For else it could not be,
    That she,
    Whom I adore so much, should so slight me,
    And cast my love behind:
    I'm sure my language was as sweet,
    And every close did meet
    In sentence of as subtle feet
    As hath the youngest he,
    That sits in shadow of Apollo's tree.

    Oh, but my conscious fears,
    That fly my thoughts between,
    Tell me that she hath seen
    My hundreds of gray hairs,
    Told seven and forty years,
    Read so much waist, as she cannot embrace
    My mountain belly and my rock face,
    As all these, through her eyes, have stopt her ears."
    "Mongo only pawn in game of life" - Mongo

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