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    Quote Originally Posted by SentimentalSlop View Post

    And why should I put down my Bible? There's no reason to do that.

    Basing your Life on a single book? That almost makes one wish it was Galaxy Quest instead.

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    The actual problem with the gay subject is in the meaning of the word marriage. There is no patri and no matri. There is no marriage. It should be called only a legal relationship and fully accepted as such. And it should have all the legal rights of any actual relationship. The word marriage is not appropriate, but the relationship is so.

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    As this thread has reached now nearly to one third of a thousand posts, it gives one pause to consider which is more "important" - a vehicle providing someone with a voice, or one which provides the voice of Reason? Please vote now in the unofficial poll!

    Balance is everything.

    Shut up; I'm trying to read Hosea 4:6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman Resu View Post
    As this thread has reached now nearly to one third of a thousand posts, it gives one pause to consider which is more "important" - a vehicle providing someone with a voice, or one which provides the voice of Reason? Please vote now in the unofficial poll!

    Balance is everything.

    Shut up; I'm trying to read Hosea 4:6.

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    I voted: bananas in pyjamas coming down the stairs only because I seen them on telly
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafolini View Post
    The actual problem with the gay subject is in the meaning of the word marriage. There is no patri and no matri. There is no marriage. It should be called only a legal relationship and fully accepted as such. And it should have all the legal rights of any actual relationship.
    Agreed in principle - any civil union between consenting adults should be recognised, and should be accorded any benefits otherwise reserved for "married" couples.





    Quote Originally Posted by cafolini View Post
    The word marriage is not appropriate, but the relationship is so.
    The words "Holy Matrimony" when viewed as being Sacramental are certainly not appropriate, but the English word "marriage" as taken from the Middle French, and beforehand, from the Latin "marito," had, by about 1375, already ceased to mean "a dowried agreement" even within the legal confines of the Quittances de Dots, and the vernacular use of "married" was widespread by the end of the Medieval period, including in English language legal documents regarding the joining of two properties (e.g. "the court hereby does marry one half hide of land with these boundaries to this adjoining parcel..."), and today the word "married" is applied to any two objects not originally together - "a marriage of a first edition book and a later dustwrapper" as a very common usage. If we can see a book and a dustwrapper as being "married" perhaps we could concede that two women or two men might likewise be seen as being "married?"

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    The word marriage is not appropriate, but the relationship is so.
    you can't have a marriage without a relationship but you can have a relationship without a marriage which means marriage is neither here or there.
    relationship comes first of course.
    holy matrimony or not it boils down to having a relationship first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cacian View Post
    you can't have a marriage without a relationship

    If you mean a physical relationship, this isn't true; many Catholic Orders consider their Nuns as being, quite literally, the "Wives of Christ."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SentimentalSlop View Post
    It's not like we're going to run out of land to live on. We have plenty of that. We're also developing new forms of farming and agriculture, making it possible to grow crops where we never thought possible on smaller pieces of land. If people would just use what they need and not live their lives in excess, there would be plenty of food and resources for everyone.

    I think those numbers are nonsense. My mom and dad raised 5 children (mostly my mom though) and they never saved 19000 dollars a week, and three of us went to private school. I know lots of parents who raised multiple kids and there is no way in hell they had jobs so extravagant that they could save that kind of money.

    And why should I put down my Bible? There's no reason to do that.
    Correct. Forget the brainless pricks. We already won this argument many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman Resu View Post
    If you mean a physical relationship, this isn't true; many Catholic Orders consider their Nuns as being, quite literally, the "Wives of Christ."
    oh my. are they? a marriage without physical contact. I feel sorry for Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman Resu View Post
    Of course you do - they're not in the Bible.

    The top prep schools in the U.S. are all over $50k per academic year; better colleges and universities higher still. Let's do just eight years times $55k as a mid-range. Use the standard formula for educational projections - 2x current inflation - and we add three percent per annum just as we'd figure the APR on a loan. As you can readily see, we're a few dollars short of a million bucks for those eight years alone. Mark 8:18.
    You're 40 years older than me, so don't be acting like a snot.

    And why does someone have to go to the "top" schools? Why can't they just settle for a local one? That's what I did, and tuition is cheap. Not only that, but my tuition is paid for with grants. If you're a good student, usually the government or private sources will help lend the money. It's also a good idea as well (if you're going to blow tons of money on tuition) to major in something that will pay a lot so you're not in debt all your life. I just don't get the people who major in creative writing or women's studies and wonder why they can't find a job.

    I don't even know why I'm talking about this. It has nothing to do with the thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SentimentalSlop View Post
    And why does someone have to go to the "top" schools? Why can't they just settle
    Hopefully, you'll learn before Life grows too old why one should never "settle."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman Resu View Post
    Agreed in principle - any civil union between consenting adults should be recognised, and should be accorded any benefits otherwise reserved for "married" couples.







    The words "Holy Matrimony" when viewed as being Sacramental are certainly not appropriate, but the English word "marriage" as taken from the Middle French, and beforehand, from the Latin "marito," had, by about 1375, already ceased to mean "a dowried agreement" even within the legal confines of the Quittances de Dots, and the vernacular use of "married" was widespread by the end of the Medieval period, including in English language legal documents regarding the joining of two properties (e.g. "the court hereby does marry one half hide of land with these boundaries to this adjoining parcel..."), and today the word "married" is applied to any two objects not originally together - "a marriage of a first edition book and a later dustwrapper" as a very common usage. If we can see a book and a dustwrapper as being "married" perhaps we could concede that two women or two men might likewise be seen as being "married?"
    Every word no matter what it is will have several synonyms. But synonyms are tied to contexts. The marriage of straw and manure, for example, in growing garlic. But the marriage of two people is Biblical and that’s its genuine context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafolini View Post
    Every word no matter what it is will have several synonyms. But synonyms are tied to contexts. The marriage of straw and manure, for example, in growing garlic. But the marriage of two people is Biblical and that’s its genuine context.

    Biblical? How is that? Exodus was revealed to Moses, as near as we can tell, some time between 1440 and 1400 BCE. The Third Tablet of Urukagina, which has long passages regarding marital laws and monogamy statutes, was written a thousand years before Exodus. Please explain to us how marriage is, "Biblical and that’s its genuine context." Please - no time machine paradoxes, although the standard answer, "I fell asleep during Mesopotamian History class" will be accepted.

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    As Christians, we believe marriage is a sacrament instituted by God, and he should be present in that relationship. It's like a love triangle. God is at the top, and man and woman at the bottom.
    Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SentimentalSlop View Post
    As Christians, we believe marriage is a sacrament instituted by God, and he should be present in that relationship. It's like a love triangle. God is at the top, and man and woman at the bottom.
    Wrong; dead wrong. Baptists are Christians, and beyond not even using the word "Sacrament" for the two ordinances which they recognise, "marriage" certainly isn't one of them. Back to Sunday school for you until you can tell the difference between a Catholic and a Christian.

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