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    Quote Originally Posted by hypatia_ View Post
    You are severely misinformed cafo.

    tabula rasa is the claim that perception is based on experience, not mind based on education. they are similar, but not equal.

    Tabula rasa and pre-existing, genetic dispositions can coexist. organisms respond to things like migration and kinds of feed for the same reason that they develop limbs without conscious attention; some things are genetic. but perception is not genetic. there have been numerous studies that what you experience affects your perception, that is pretty obvious.

    saying that "we know migration without experience" is an argument against tabula rasa is just plain wrong.

    and please do not compare experiments done on animals to the human brain. similar again, but not equal.
    Another piece of info: WE are all animals.
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    our brain is not in the same class as other animal brains, making our perception vastly different.
    “the sense of being which in calm hours arises, we know not how, in the soul, is not diverse from things, from space, from light, from time, from man, but one with them and proceeds obviously from the same source.... Here is the fountain of action and of thought....

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    This has been bugging me a lot lately. Hopefully someone from the boards can heed me advice.

    There's this relatively big problem going around in my family concerning my grandma especifically. After my uncle went to prison for shooting his wife over a serious problem they had, the state decided to leave his two kids(ages 5 and 3 at the time of the incident four years ago) to the care of the deceased woman's mother. Since, my grandma had a better financial estate though both parties came up with the resolution to share the children's expenses. My grandmother would pay for their private school and share some utilities with the other woman. Now, keep in mind that my grandma loves these children dearly since my uncle is literally her favorite son; she visits him every saturday. Now, the problem is that the woman is constantly arguing with my grandma over pure interest reasons (she wants to be the legal owner of the house where my uncle used to live in arguing for reparation causes and the children's inheritance). Much of these arguments arise in part from the deceit that is constantly placed by the youngest kid, a girl of 7, who is very observant and a compulsive liar. She often tells the other woman that so and so from my grandma's household, either my cousin or her daughter of 4, treated her badly when, in fact, the truth is the complete opposite. This results in the woman coming over to my grandma's and starting arguments over lies that the child has said. My cousin, a single mother, has called me a couple of times crying and said she was going to leave and find an apartment because she can't tolerate anymore of the kid's constant trouble.

    The kid, in my own opinion, reflects the character of her maternal grandma in some ways. The kid is very mischievous, i think there's a serious problem in her personality because i personally think she enjoys causing these arguments even after time and time again me and other relatives have told her to stop it. It's disturbing because she concedes her fault at times but still keeps on lying.

    So, the question is this... is the kid genuinely innocent and will she get worse once she's an adult, or is it just a phase that will die out in a few years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafolini View Post
    Another piece of info: WE are all animals.
    I AM not. Just to clarify it cafo. WE is very vague in this instance.
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
    good
    it fly

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