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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    Whisper it quietly, but our current Queen elect Camilla is a lovely person, but not beautiful in the classic sense.
    "Queen elect"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calidore View Post
    "Queen elect"?

    Chosen for office though not yet installed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calidore View Post
    "Queen elect"?
    I'll second Calidore's question.
    Mick you'll have to clarify for the Colonists

    edit - nevermind you beat me to it.
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    Here she is.

    http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...d=0CKABEPwdMBI


    Edit; Though she may not actually take the title "Queen".
    Last edited by prendrelemick; 03-14-2013 at 05:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    Here she is.
    ...
    Edit; Though she may not actually take the title "Queen".
    Yes; I had just finished a quick read up and it sounds like she is not...preferred shall we say?
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    She should have the title, it is her right. you can't just say "Daily Mail readers liked Diana better so you can't be Queen"

    Another lady who had similar problems was Caroline of Brunswick, but it was her husband George who didn't like her - infact he hated her. At his coronation he left strict orders she was not to be admitted. She turned up antway and was left outside on the street, hammering on the door demanding to be let in!

    Shortly after she did the one thing that assured the British public's sympathy and regard - she died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    She should have the title, it is her right. you can't just say "Daily Mail readers liked Diana better so you can't be Queen"

    Another lady who had similar problems was Caroline of Brunswick, but it was her husband George who didn't like her - infact he hated her. At his coronation he left strict orders she was not to be admitted. She turned up antway and was left outside on the street, hammering on the door demanding to be let in!

    Shortly after she did the one thing that assured the British public's sympathy and regard - she died.
    To be fair to George, he was already married to Fitzherbet when Parliament forced him to marry Caroline. Unfortunately, since Fitzherbert was a Catholic the marriage was considered invalid, though they didn't have an exactly ideal relationship either.
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    One of George IV's courtiers brought him the news of the death of Napoleon. He said, 'Sire, your greatest enemy is dead'. The king replied, 'Is she, by God!'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanPip View Post
    To be fair to George, he was already married to Fitzherbet when Parliament forced him to marry Caroline. Unfortunately, since Fitzherbert was a Catholic the marriage was considered invalid, though they didn't have an exactly ideal relationship either.

    Caroline used to refer to the King as "Mr Fitzherbet" in order to annoy him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaza View Post
    One of George IV's courtiers brought him the news of the death of Napoleon. He said, 'Sire, your greatest enemy is dead'. The king replied, 'Is she, by God!'.
    Haha!
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    The next catagory should be the most independant and capable Queen. Someone who was more than just a breeding machine, who wore the trousers and kept her wimpish king in order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    The next catagory should be the most independant and capable Queen. Someone who was more than just a breeding machine, who wore the trousers and kept her wimpish king in order.

    Wallis Simpson.
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    Interesting thread.
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    I was thinking of Isabella the "She-Wolf of France", who was Ed II's Queen. She soon got rid of him (She actually led an army against him,) and set up shop with Roger Mortimer her lover.

    If the beguiling Wallis Simpson had become Queen I wonder what her nick-name would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    I was thinking of Isabella the "She-Wolf of France", who was Ed II's Queen. She soon got rid of him (She actually led an army against him,) and set up shop with Roger Mortimer her lover.

    If the beguiling Wallis Simpson had become Queen I wonder what her nick-name would be.
    I hate to think of it but it would probably have been Wally. Anyhow, that's slightly better than Edward's friend and best man at his wedding, 'Fruity' Metcalfe. An interesting item from Fruity's past is given in Wikipedia.

    'With his wife he attended meetings of the January Club (as well as a Fascist Blackshirt dinner at London's Savoy Hotel in May 1934), of which he was a member.'
    "L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.

    "Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.

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    That was a wedding I'd've liked to've gone to (or the party afterwards). I think the wags of the day were ready to call her King Wallis the first. In fact like Richard III the suceeding dynasty did a knocking job on them, Queen Elizabeth ( later The Queen Mother) took great pleasure in "cutting" her and would not have them in the same country. They were all but banished and rumours abounded that she was really a man! Plus ca change and all that.

    What was the January Club ? Was it like that Bullingden Club that some of our glorious leaders belonged to.
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