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    Emil before I check it up and congratulations by the way
    why 'A Tangled Web' as a title?
    Web here can be both spider type or computer right? Is that a play on both meanings?
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    [QUOTE=Neely;1207289]I've started reading it this afternoon, just finished chapter two, very good and well written Emil, congratulations. I will be continuing it later on.[/QUOTE

    I hope you enjoy the rest of it. If it appears well written it may be on account of its extensive revision.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lokasenna View Post
    Congratulations on getting another publication under your belt!
    Thanks, I hope you will find time to read and comment on it even though it's rather different to your usual reading matter.



    Quote Originally Posted by Gilliatt Gurgle View Post
    Congratulations Emil.

    I have a Nook reader myself (Barnes & Noble). I made a quick search through B&N website and don't see it there.
    However, it looks like you're set up through Amazon (Kindle). My wife has a new Kindle, so I'll see about getting her to purchase it.

    Looking forward to reading it.
    Thanks Gilliatt. I don't know why Nook wasn't included by the publisher but it's also available through Kobo for some reason.
    I seem to recall your attempting Faulkner on one occasion and, despite its elements of tragedy, I think you will find that A Tangled Web is
    somewhat lighter fare than Faulkner's turgid 'corncobby chronicles'.


    Quote Originally Posted by cacian View Post
    Emil before I check it up and congratulations by the way
    why 'A Tangled Web' as a title?
    Web here can be both spider type or computer right? Is that a play on both meanings?

    Thank you. The title is taken from Sir Walter Scott's poem 'Marmion' and, although the first sentence of A Tangled Web indicates that it may have
    become a cliché, it does describe the interplay of characters and situations that that moves the story towards its untoward conclusion.
    It has nothing to do with computer web sites as the story is set during the 1970s at a time before computers came into general use.
    Last edited by Emil Miller; 03-11-2013 at 09:05 AM.
    "L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.

    "Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.

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    Yep I'm now on chapter 6, it makes for very enjoyable fluent reading, it's very good. I even continued reading this over the current book I am very much into Constable on the Hill - the series of books responsible for the brilliant Heartbeat, so to choose to read yours over that means it must be good. I also find myself chuckling at moments where perhaps the author comes through a little, for example with the generic pop music inclusion on the Desert Island Disks or the criticism of cheap Hollywood adaptations etc, etc. I will be reading a few chapters each day.

    Have you any plans for another book?

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    I was going to get it, but I have a Nook.
    "The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its' own reason for existing." ~ Albert Einstein
    "Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Bonzai
    "Some people say I done alright for a girl." Melanie Safka

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neely View Post
    Yep I'm now on chapter 6, it makes for very enjoyable fluent reading, it's very good. I even continued reading this over the current book I am very much into Constable on the Hill - the series of books responsible for the brilliant Heartbeat, so to choose to read yours over that means it must be good. I also find myself chuckling at moments where perhaps the author comes through a little, for example with the generic pop music inclusion on the Desert Island Disks or the criticism of cheap Hollywood adaptations etc, etc. I will be reading a few chapters each day.

    Have you any plans for another book?
    Actually, A Tangled Web is my third book; the second having been written for a lady who didn't like my first on account of its narrative form.
    It is yet to be published but is very different to A Tangled Web and heavily based on my own experiences in Germany and the time
    I spent working for the Foreign Office and Ministry of Defence. I hate the phrase 'psychological thriller' but that's what it is. Although one agent
    I sent it to said it was well written he nevertheless refused to take it. C'est la vie.


    Quote Originally Posted by qimissung View Post
    I was going to get it, but I have a Nook.
    I'm really sorry that you can't access the book, because I would have been interested in your opinion. I don't know why Shieldcrest didn't include
    Barnes and Noble's e-reader in its publishing links. I will enquire why they chose to ignore a major component of the e-reader market.
    "L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.

    "Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.

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    Actually, A Tangled Web is my third book; the second having been written for a lady who didn't like my first on account of its narrative form.
    It is yet to be published but is very different to A Tangled Web and heavily based on my own experiences in Germany and the time
    I spent working for the Foreign Office and Ministry of Defence. I hate the phrase 'psychological thriller' but that's what it is. Although one agent
    I sent it to said it was well written he nevertheless refused to take it. C'est la vie.
    'Psychological thriller.' Yes I thought to myself that there is something of the Mr Ripley in this Wakefield character earlier in this book too - I am fond of Ripley. I'm on chapter 11, my bath went cold reading it earlier, very enjoyable, love the Italian setting and finding myself wanting a decent coffee or red wine/cold beer after reading it (went for the cold beer).

    Yes I thought it was your third book as I remembered something of another book besides Pro Bono but I thought that was before it. Yes Pro Bono was 'harder' to read in terms of narrative style but that suited the message and voice of that particular book. You felt frustrated by the narrative form at times in Pro Bono which suited the message again. This book flows more easily than Pro Bono and is suited to a wider audience, especially with the fast twisting plot - it reads as a very good popular novel. This is not to criticise Pro Bono, just the two are clearly very different. The way dialogue is handled in A Tangled Web is excellent and pushes the book along rapidly.

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    Good news, I think. I did a little investigating on the web. I thought I might get a Kobo if I could find one for cheap. Unfortunately, no, but in the course of my investigation, I remembered I could get either a kindle or kobo app for my Android phone. So I looked at my phone, and lo and behold, there was the kindle app. So I logged in and I am now the proud owner of a kindle.

    Hmm, what should my first purchase be?
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    "Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Bonzai
    "Some people say I done alright for a girl." Melanie Safka

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    Actually, A Tangled Web is my third book; the second having been written for a lady who didn't like my first on account of its narrative form.
    It is yet to be published but is very different to A Tangled Web and heavily based on my own experiences in Germany and the time
    I spent working for the Foreign Office and Ministry of Defence. I hate the phrase 'psychological thriller' but that's what it is. Although one agent
    I sent it to said it was well written he nevertheless refused to take it. C'est la vie.
    What a lucky lady that was.
    I thought you were 17. How old when you worked for the foreign office? Sorry I hope you do no mind me asking.
    Oh I thank you for the explanation. I will check Marmion as it goes. I have not read it yet.
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
    good
    it fly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neely View Post
    'Psychological thriller.' Yes I thought to myself that there is something of the Mr Ripley in this Wakefield character earlier in this book too - I am fond of Ripley. I'm on chapter 11, my bath went cold reading it earlier, very enjoyable, love the Italian setting and finding myself wanting a decent coffee or red wine/cold beer after reading it (went for the cold beer).

    Yes I thought it was your third book as I remembered something of another book besides Pro Bono but I thought that was before it. Yes Pro Bono was 'harder' to read in terms of narrative style but that suited the message and voice of that particular book. You felt frustrated by the narrative form at times in Pro Bono which suited the message again. This book flows more easily than Pro Bono and is suited to a wider audience, especially with the fast twisting plot - it reads as a very good popular novel. This is not to criticise Pro Bono, just the two are clearly very different. The way dialogue is handled in A Tangled Web is excellent and pushes the book along rapidly.
    Yes, Pro Bono Publico is a very different book both in style and content and took a long time to write due to the research required, Kobo actually market it under History, Social & Cultural Studies, and Political Science, whereas ATW is, as you point out, more like a popular novel and is aimed at a wider readership. I remember going for long walks and wrestling with the problem of reconciling the fictional elements with the actual political personalities and events that formed the basis of Pro Bono but with ATW I simply sat at the computer and typed it out before making the many revisions it needed.
    I haven't read the Ripley book so any similarity is just coincidence but I imagine the ending would be quite different.
    I don't know whether to publish the second book and I'm currently thinking about writing one with a merchant banking background but I'm not entirely au fait with the mechanics of institutional financing and it would require a some research into what is a rather arcane business .Anyhow, I would be interested in your final verdict on ATW.


    Quote Originally Posted by qimissung View Post
    Good news, I think. I did a little investigating on the web. I thought I might get a Kobo if I could find one for cheap. Unfortunately, no, but in the course of my investigation, I remembered I could get either a kindle or kobo app for my Android phone. So I looked at my phone, and lo and behold, there was the kindle app. So I logged in and I am now the proud owner of a kindle.

    Hmm, what should my first purchase be?

    That's interesting. I'm not into the various gadgets and attachments that go with mobile phones but if you are able to download a Kindle based book
    via a Kindle application, there's a little book by Emil Miller that has just been published that is, I'm told, quite good.
    It's possible that such an application may be the reason why the publisher didn't find it necessary to include Nook for direct downloading.
    "L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.

    "Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.

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    I got it, and I'm on chapter 4. It's very easily readable, Emil, so you might be onto a nice little moneymaker there. I remember reading about this one girl who loved to write fantasy, but kept trying to write more conventional novels. Her boyfriend finally convinced her to do what she loved and she's apparently now kind of a bestselling author in the world of ebooks.

    Well, I'd forgotten my phone had the kindle app because I'd decided at the time not to use it, being firmly against ebooks. Nook needs to push their way into the market, where there are phones that come with their app. All of them have apps you can download. Anyway, all I had to do was sign into Amazon, and click on a few buttons, and voila, I was reading your book.
    "The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its' own reason for existing." ~ Albert Einstein
    "Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Bonzai
    "Some people say I done alright for a girl." Melanie Safka

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    Quote Originally Posted by qimissung View Post
    I got it, and I'm on chapter 4. It's very easily readable, Emil, so you might be onto a nice little moneymaker there. I remember reading about this one girl who loved to write fantasy, but kept trying to write more conventional novels. Her boyfriend finally convinced her to do what she loved and she's apparently now kind of a bestselling author in the world of ebooks.

    Well, I'd forgotten my phone had the kindle app because I'd decided at the time not to use it, being firmly against ebooks. Nook needs to push their way into the market, where there are phones that come with their app. All of them have apps you can download. Anyway, all I had to do was sign into Amazon, and click on a few buttons, and voila, I was reading your book.
    I'm very pleased that you managed to get hold of A Tangled Web and look forward to your comments on it. I know it sounds unlikely but I really didn't write it to make money. My main object in writing it was because I had a lot of fun in doing so and also to be read by people who read for pleasure and/or instruction rather than simply to kill time.
    Anyhow, I hope you find it as diverting to read as I did in writing it.
    "L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.

    "Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.

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    Just finished the book and very much enjoyed it throughout, well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neely View Post
    Just finished the book and very much enjoyed it throughout, well done.
    Thanks for reading it. I hope you enjoyed the comedic aspects and didn't take personally those that satirise the pop music business. After some years, I have been re-reading my second novel, with a view to getting it published by the same publisher, and find it to be much darker with a plot that is even more layered than A Tangled Web. As I have mentioned, the action takes place mainly in Germany and England but the background to the story is one of post-war psychological disorientation.
    If I decide to publish, it will be similarly submitted for comments from members of the forum.
    "L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.

    "Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil Miller View Post
    Thanks for reading it. I hope you enjoyed the comedic aspects and didn't take personally those that satirise the pop music business. After some years, I have been re-reading my second novel, with a view to getting it published by the same publisher, and find it to be much darker with a plot that is even more layered than A Tangled Web. As I have mentioned, the action takes place mainly in Germany and England but the background to the story is one of post-war psychological disorientation.
    If I decide to publish, it will be similarly submitted for comments from members of the forum.
    Excellent. No I enjoyed the humour as well. Thought the novel started out quite dark and tense (Ripleyesque - you should read The Talented Mr Ripley by Patricia Highsmith) then shifted to include satire/humour, then of course ended sharply.

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