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    Politics vs. Religion

    So we're allowed to discuss anything except politics. Why then are we allowed to discuss religion? What really separates the two? They are both just opinionated beliefs. They both have differing sets of values for differing beliefs within them. What makes them so different that we can discus religion, but not politics? If you ban one shouldn't you ban the other, or just don't ban either?

    (This probably has been asked before, but I'm not going through 500 treads to find it after a search.)
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    I guess religions hold a faith value and politics is a lot of sounds without much ado.
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
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    it fly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainyhawaii View Post
    So we're allowed to discuss anything except politics. Why then are we allowed to discuss religion? What really separates the two? They are both just opinionated beliefs. They both have differing sets of values for differing beliefs within them. What makes them so different that we can discus religion, but not politics? If you ban one shouldn't you ban the other, or just don't ban either?

    (This probably has been asked before, but I'm not going through 500 treads to find it after a search.)
    What makes them different is that religion may or may not affect an individual according to his disposition but politics affects everybody to some degree.
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    I am surprised we are even allowed to voice the word POLITICS we might get in trouble soon though haha
    It does remind of the film The Life of Brian when the old beardy guy jumping up and down screaming:
    ''Jehovah Jehovah all I said was this halibut was good enough for Jehovah''
    In the film he was not allowed to say JEHOVAH.

    Anyway if I did have to chose between politics or religion for discussion I would chose religion anytime.
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
    good
    it fly

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    The prohibition is on modern politics, rather than just politics. I always assumed that religion was allowed because it's a literature forum and there's tons of religious literature out there, as well as old political literature, but nothing on modern politics can (yet) be considered literature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calidore View Post
    The prohibition is on modern politics, rather than just politics. I always assumed that religion was allowed because it's a literature forum and there's tons of religious literature out there, as well as old political literature, but nothing on modern politics can (yet) be considered literature.
    Politics is not literature I guess. Modern politics is a show. It can't be serious. There are too many conflicts for any politic to run a country and set an example of it for others to follow. Politics fails where religion gains and that is the danger.
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
    good
    it fly

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    Quote Originally Posted by cacian View Post
    politics is not literature i guess. Modern politics is a show. It can't be serious. There are too many conflicts for any politic to run a country and set an example of it for others to follow. Politics fails where religion gains and that is the danger.
    You said politics! Lock the thread!

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    Politics and religion run everything in the human realm. Foolishness runs the rest and the rest is nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafolini View Post
    Politics and religion run everything in the human realm. Foolishness runs the rest and the rest is nothing.
    The combination of the two can be lethal.
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
    good
    it fly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calidore View Post
    nothing on modern politics can (yet) be considered literature.
    So what are the thousands of books that discuss political issues that affect us today? What are the novels, poetry and short stories that engage with current political concerns?

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    I guess the question of whether or not the state endorsed Church of England should be made to perform gay marriages and accept female bishops unites the two subjects. I half expected this thread to be about something like that.

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    This should help answer everyone's questions:

    http://www.online-literature.com/for...Politics/page6
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