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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulclem View Post
    I dislike Jane Austen, it does not delight me, but I recognise it as literature because it is interesting, worthy of study and contributes to our stock of writing that inspires others and also delights some. Mine

    The novels of Jane Austen delight me, that's why they are literature. Ulysses doesn't delight me, but it does delight some people, so it is literature. If it delights some person it is literature. Yours

    I fail to see what the difference between these two are Mal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal4mac View Post
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    Try the first part of Terry Eagleton's Literary Theory: An Introduction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralfyman View Post
    Try the first part of Terry Eagleton's Literary Theory: An Introduction.
    So how does he define literature? Is he a resenter?

    "Longinus would have said that pleasure is what the resenters have forgotten. Nietzsche would have called it pain; but he would have been thinking of the same experience upon the heights." - Harold Bloom, "The Western Canon", p.18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mal4mac View Post
    So how does he define literature? Is he a resenter?

    "Longinus would have said that pleasure is what the resenters have forgotten. Nietzsche would have called it pain; but he would have been thinking of the same experience upon the heights." - Harold Bloom, "The Western Canon", p.18.
    He explains the different definitions of literature. You have to read the chapter to find out, although there are some summaries available online.

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