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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandis View Post
    Why and how is it disrespectful to the nation? I get that taking the picture and breaching her privacy is disrespectful, but you, among others, seem to think her being "caught" is somehow disrespectful. That's what I don't get.

    What I am trying to get it at is why it's such a big deal if you see a nude body. It's just a body. These pictures of Kate Middleton are not degrading, nor should they be embarrassing. There's nothing wrong with sunbathing topless, or even bottomless if a person wants to. It's not undignified. Having "nudie pictures" just shouldn't be that embarrassing--it's only our backwards society, which has made the human body into such a sinful object, that has made it embarrassing. The only legitimate criticism I can think of is her disregarding the danger of skin cancer.
    It could just be personal opinion.

    I as an Italian, if someone published a nude picture of the prime-minister wife which was taken by a gross breach of privacy, I would feel disrespected and offended.

    Clearly if someone were to take nude pictures of Michelle Obama and publish them in a magazine you seem to express that you would be fine with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander III View Post
    It could just be personal opinion.

    I as an Italian, if someone published a nude picture of the prime-minister wife which was taken by a gross breach of privacy, I would feel disrespected and offended.

    Clearly if someone were to take nude pictures of Michelle Obama and publish them in a magazine you seem to express that you would be fine with that.
    If you were a paparazzo you would presumably have a different opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil Miller View Post
    If you were a paparazzo you would presumably have a different opinion.
    Were I a rapists I would most likely have a different opinion on rape too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volya View Post
    I don't think the problem is that she was naked, the problem is that somebody took a photo of her, when she clearly did not want them to.
    Some people will see it that way, but I think a lot will also see it as the duchess not acting proper, which is stupid.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander III View Post
    It could just be personal opinion.

    I as an Italian, if someone published a nude picture of the prime-minister wife which was taken by a gross breach of privacy, I would feel disrespected and offended.

    Clearly if someone were to take nude pictures of Michelle Obama and publish them in a magazine you seem to express that you would be fine with that.
    Dear lord, Alex, has your reading comprehension just flown out a window or something? Of course it would be disrespectful for someone to take a picture of ANYONE in privacy and publish photos of them. That's not the point I've been TRYING (in vain, it seems) to make. Some people are going to see these pictures of the Duchess and judge her, not the photographer, and that's what I find stupid--you know, because I don't thnk nudity should be that big of a deal, LIKE I'VE BEEN ****ING SAYING!

    Seriously, if anyone should be using that dumb ****ing Jackie Chan meme, it's me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandis View Post

    Dear lord, Alex, has your reading comprehension just flown out a window or something? Of course it would be disrespectful for someone to take a picture of ANYONE in privacy and publish photos of them. That's not the point I've been TRYING (in vain, it seems) to make. Some people are going to see these pictures of the Duchess and judge her, not the photographer, and that's what I find stupid--you know, because I don't thnk nudity should be that big of a deal, LIKE I'VE BEEN ****ING SAYING!

    Seriously, if anyone should be using that dumb ****ing Jackie Chan meme, it's me.

    But you are imposing your worldview on others here. You think nudity is not a big deal. Plenty of people don't. Personally I have been naked with plenty of friends and girls and that never bothered me. But if one time when I got naked someone took a picture of it and posted it online, I would be pissed off like Lucifer. If you don't think that there is anything wrong with strangers seeing you nude that is fine, but don't impose your morality upon others. Not everyone is ok with having nude pictures of them taken and showed to the world.

    P.S In your first post you sounded totally fine with the fact that the magazine published these pictures, hence why I am having trouble understanding your position. To be frank you are really pulling a Romney in this thread.

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    I think you are misunderstanding what Mutatis is trying to say, Alex.......

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    Can someone please explain to me what Mutatis is trying to say. I feel like a Roman in Gaul here.

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    He is asking why some people think the Duchess should not have been nude sunbathing.
    His question is nothing to do with the morality of taking a photo and publishing it.
    (Do correct me if I'm wrong mutatis)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volya View Post
    He is asking why some people think the Duchess should not have been nude sunbathing.
    The Duchess was sunbathing in a private resort with only her and her husband as guests. Nothing wrong with that.

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    This discussion reminds me Mutatis' "Professionalism" thread.

    Certain people, by virtue of their positions/professions/status are not able to do (or expected to do) what anyone else might get away with in their society.

    I can very easily imagine a 20-something man going in nude in their friends during night of partying (a la Harry) or a woman sunbathing topless (a la Kate); however, because of their place in the eyes of society (ironically, consisted of those who would be doing exactly those things they gasp at during their next holiday abroad), they will be talked about ceaselessly.

    "Live and let live" is what I would like to say.*

    *Disclaimer: This does not include any activities that are considered criminal or hurtful to other first/second/third parties.
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    To be totally honest both should have known better.
    There is always going to be Papparazzi and one way or another there were going to photos especially where nudity is concerned.
    What is most astonishing is that it happened just after the news about Prince Harry.
    Now just because of this one would have thought more care would have been taken regarding anyone sunbathiung naked or topless especially if it is going to be done on foreign lands. Topless subathing was literally asking for trouble as far the couple were concerned. No such a thing as privacy laws as far as Royalty abroad is concerned.
    Someone somewhere will always tip the press about the whereabouts of Royalty.
    I thought that was the most obvious there was.
    Wether it the uncle chateau or whatever it is still foreign soil. One need to up the games if anyone wants to be taken seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volya View Post
    He is asking why some people think the Duchess should not have been nude sunbathing.
    His question is nothing to do with the morality of taking a photo and publishing it.
    (Do correct me if I'm wrong mutatis)
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    The Duchess was sunbathing in a private resort with only her and her husband as guests. Nothing wrong with that.
    Then we are in agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandis View Post


    Then we are in agreement.
    No we are not, before you said there was nothing wrong with the pictures. I clearly believe there is something wrong withe them and I elucidated on the point. You have not yet said why you see nothing wrong with the fact that these pictures were published.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander III View Post
    No we are not, before you said there was nothing wrong with the pictures. I clearly believe there is something wrong withe them and I elucidated on the point. You have not yet said why you see nothing wrong with the fact that these pictures were published.
    Actually, Mutatis has been saying pretty clearly that he thinks there's nothing wrong with the content of the pictures (i.e. boobies), but that they shouldn't have been published (which he agreed in post #19 was "disrespectful").
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil Miller View Post
    If you were a paparazzo you would presumably have a different opinion.
    Holy logic batman. Good God is it so hard for some people to think before they hit the submit button? What exactly are you trying to say here?

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