what is an idea worth?

[cacian]

How does one value an idea any idea?

My first thoughts are :

''an idea is worth its decision making''?

Here is one idea I came up with:

I call it:
The Yes and No Aphorism

Meaning:

If someone asks a question and the answer is Yes then the question must have been repeting itself ie what is the point of confirming an already stated answer.

Then

If the anwer is No then the question must have been wrong.

The aphorist idea is this:
Is there such thing a Yes and a No answer ?

Please feel free to comment.

[Charles Darnay]

Do you like chocolate?

If I answer no, is the question wrong? If I answer yes, is the question pointless? What if I want to get someone some chocolate but I don't want to rely on the fact that most people in this world like chocolate. I want to be sure.

how about....


Is it cold outside?

My friend just came in and I haven't been out all day and want to know what I need to wear in order to be comfortable outside. The question is not pointless, and neither answer is wrong.

In short...............what?

[cacian]

Do you like chocolate?

If I answer no, is the question wrong? If I answer yes, is the question pointless? What if I want to get someone some chocolate but I don't want to rely on the fact that most people in this world like chocolate. I want to be sure.

Theoratically the question is wrong if the answer is a no.

A bit like saying

1+2= 4

The answer is wrong because the processing of it is wrong.

If then the answer is a yes then it is stating the obvious because
1+2= 3

Mentally the answer is 3 we already know writing it all up is going over it again again a bit like asking it.

how about....


Is it cold outside?

My friend just came in and I haven't been out all day and want to know what I need to wear in order to be comfortable outside. The question is not pointless, and neither answer is wrong.

Is it cold outside? is a bit like asking is it sunny outside?

This is not a question because you shoud know what the weather is like.
You are aware of it by looking outside your window feeling on your skin and knowing which season it is.

In short...............what?

In other words.....what?!

[Scheherazade]

What if you ask someone, "Do you want tea?" The answer might be a "yes" or "no", depending on their mood or preference, which we cannot determine.

Not every question inquires a right or wrong value.

[Charles Darnay]

Theoratically the question is wrong if the answer is a no.

A bit like saying

1+2= 4

The answer is wrong because the processing of it is wrong.

How is it wrong. I am asking some for a personal opinion (which by definition cannot be objectively wrong) that I am unaware of.

If then the answer is a yes then it is stating the obvious because
1+2= 3

Again, not stating the obvious. The purpose of the question was to gain information I did not previously have. A yes gives me that information. So doe a no. Neither are wrong or obvious.

Is it cold outside? is a bit like asking is it sunny outside?

This is not a question because you shoud know what the weather is like because you are aware of it by looking outside yoru window and knowing the house temperature and the season.

Not sure where you are living, but wind is a major factor that sometimes cannot be seen from inside and can make a difference. Also, I'm lazy. Asking the question saves me from having to do unnecessary investigation.


My first example demonstrates that you cannot objectively evaluate an opinion, and the second illustrates that a yes or no question can have a practical purpose.

[cacian]

What if you ask someone, "Do you want tea?" The answer might be a "yes" or "no", depending on their mood or preference, which we cannot determine.

Not every question inquires a right or wrong value.

Good point.
What would happen if I just offered a cup of tea and a cup of coffee at the same time without asking?
It is the convention/tradition to offer a drink anyway to be welcoming or nice.
It is just another view on things which means I can talk about something else instead of asking the question. haha.

[cacian]

How is it wrong. I am asking some for a personal opinion (which by definition cannot be objectively wrong) that I am unaware of.

A personal opinion does not necessarily means a yes or a no.
It could mean telling it a different way

Again, not stating the obvious. The purpose of the question was to gain information I did not previously have. A yes gives me that information. So doe a no. Neither are wrong or obvious.

The purpose of the question was to get access to how you want things done in reference to the person you are talking to.
Do you like chocolate by asking this you mut have had something else in mind.
Like offering a chocolate drink or getting a chocolate present.
In effect you want to know whether you can offer/buy or give the chocolate to this person. That is the ultimate goal.
The question is to guide your actions towards other people you do not know very well.

Not sure where you are living, but wind is a major factor that sometimes cannot be seen from inside and can make a difference. Also, I'm lazy. Asking the question saves me from having to do unnecessary investigation.

I live in London and I know when it is cold and when it is sunny.
I dress up accordingly without having to ask anyone.

My first example demonstrates that you cannot objectively evaluate an opinion, and the second illustrates that a yes or no question can have a practical purpose.

I think you can evaluate an opinion by offering an alternative opinion and asking for other possibilities to see if you matches or changes.
There is no right or wrong there only opinions and circumstances of opinions changing accordingly.
A yes or no gives you no clue on how to reverse press or change an opinion that is.

[stlukesguild]

How is it wrong.

It's wrong in Cacian's world where bizarre leaps of logic are an everyday occurrence and Jesus and Julius Caesar were put to death for dressing like RuPaul.

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

There can be answers to questions that are neither right nor wrong. End of discussion.

[cacian]

How is it wrong.

It's wrong in Cacian's world where bizarre leaps of logic are an everyday occurrence and Jesus and Julius Caesar were put to death for dressing like RuPaul.

Haha. You are forgiven to think of me any otherwise.

There can be answers to questions that are neither right nor wrong. End of discussion.

How about this one Mutatis

quis semita veritas - truth has no path

Do you agree with this?

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

As usual, cacian, I don't even understand what you're asking. I'm sure it's inane, in any case.