who is 'they'?Originally Posted by Paulclem
are you saying racism/fascims is not bad?Hitler certainly did a very good job of giving racist/ fascist ideas a bad press.
who is 'they'?
are you saying racism/fascims is not bad?Hitler certainly did a very good job of giving racist/ fascist ideas a bad press.
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
How do you mean?
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
Hitler was the Messiah to the Nazis.
No, in the sense that serial killers give serial killing a bad name. It can't be denied that racist/ fascist tendencies were growing in Europe. Far right/ racist/ facist parties have not gained much ground in Europe since.
LOL
OK...so nazis are/were fascist worshippers?
Last edited by cacian; 03-17-2012 at 06:07 AM.
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
it is interesting you use 'growing' because the way I see is this
fascism was already established it just needed a voice to circulate and as it happens nazis gave fascism a voice via media.
without the media no one woud have heard of nazis outside germany.
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
Correct.
OK...so nazis are/were fascist worshippers?
Dreary...to worship a concept says a lot about the human condition.
Some are just not ready.
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
Fascism is a radical authoritarian nationalist political ideology, while Fundamentalism is the demand for a strict adherence to specific theological doctrines usually understood as a reaction against Modernist theology, combined with a vigorous attack on outside threats to their religious culture.
who is 'their'?
and isn't fascism a strict adherence to race?
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
Agree with Darcy88, that it is the totalitarian ambition. Read Mark Levin's recent "Ameritopia" for a historical, psychological, political, power-based through-line when it comes to fascism. Levin traces it back to a weird, not-sweet, utopianism -- starting with Plato, then he takes up More's Utopia and Hobbes Leviathan. Then, on to the ogre Marx. Always, about power -- the accumulation and practice of power (naturally over others).
Thankfully, Levin gives the antidote and opposite to this thematic patern of thinking via Locke, de Montesquieu and de Tocqueville. And, how the Founding Fathers knew, and set up the country to avoid, the totalitarian tendency by instituting checks on mad ambition. Still, some people are power-hungry, and it only takes a few bad apples. Ayn Rand certainly saw it first hand and fought against it.
You're confusing fascism with Nazism. Mussolini became the fascist leader in Italy. Oswald Moseley led the blackshirt Bitish fascists. Other countries had their own brands.
fascism was already established
From when? It grew through the thirties in Germany, but Hitler never had a majority. He took power.
No. There's nothing inherent to the precepts of fascism that requires racism. Though the practical application of fascism will usually require a scapegoat, so racism can be very useful.
"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious."
Oscar Wilde
"Patriotism is a pernicious, psychopathic form of idiocy."
George Bernard Shaw
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