I agree. If I knew that by breaking a law I would be thrown into a stark windowless cell, I would avoid doing something that was illegal and totally unnecessary.Originally Posted by Darcy88
I agree. If I knew that by breaking a law I would be thrown into a stark windowless cell, I would avoid doing something that was illegal and totally unnecessary.
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
Is it unnecessary to drink? Is it unnecessary to act in accordance with logic and sense? If they banned alcohol are you telling me that you would actually cease to partake?
I wouldn't. I am a man, not a sheep, and it is rightness over law, conscience over compulsion, as its weighed in my scheme of things.
Don't bother Darcy. See, with people like Emil, if it's a law he agrees with, than it's just fine--those who break should've known better. If it is a law he doesn't agree with, though, than he'd be all for the "fight the power" attitude. It's how they justify what is clearly illogical.
The government and the advertisers say alcohol is okay but weed is bad. Oh my god! Alcohol is okay, weed is bad!
Uh oh.....
I don't drink....
I don't smoke....
...but currently I don't know where I stand on the legalization or criminalization of either.
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
I go by the harm principle. If something doesn't cause significant harm to oneself or to society then it out to be permitted. And even if it does harm oneself and society we often turn a blind eye. People who eat themselves into morbid obesity and risk their own lives and strain the health-care system are free to do so.
Its really about freedom. People shouldn't be telling other people what to do when it does not affect them.
Yep. And certain state governments also tell us that it's illegal to take a bath with a squirrel. I will if I want to, though, laws be damned.
Ever notice how fat preachers often preach against how smoking destroys the body, which is the temple of God? However, the lessons against gluttony are rarely taught.
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
Yes I have always wondered about that too, Gluttony as a sin seems largley obscured by all the other one's.
I mean if drinking, smoking, sleeping around, vanity, greed - all sins frequently discussed.
yet no one would ever tell an obese man that he is a sinner - yet being obesse shows just as much lack of controll as a man who drinks or cheats on his wife.
Have you seen the size of most Christian Evangelicals. If they actually determined what was sinful based on health, they would lay off all that potato salad and fried chicken.
The sin is not the unhealthy aspect of the thing in question but the "bad" association.
Gluttony is a sin because they need the render to keep the fires going.....sorry.....
On Marijuana: Bumping the thread here, but thought that the general consensus 3 years ago reflecting a small plurality opposed to the recreational use of marijuana. Wonder if that has changed?
All sound scientific studies and documentation of the comparable effects of alcohol and marijuana on their users and users' loved ones show marijuana to be the less harmful of the two. Of course, as a connoisseur of both, they are both more than fine with me. Anyone who opposes legalized marijuana, however, but supports legalized alcohol--which damages both user and user's loved ones--is taking a hypocritical stance unsupported by facts.
Thanks for bumping this thread, it was a bit like shooting fish in a barrel but still good fun.
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
I agree. Marijuana has great momentum at this moment behind it, however I am concerned for people who use it for anxiety/depression. Questions must be asked about this particular medicinal use: how much? When? What happens when you are having anxiety at work(it's a long damn day) - what then? Do you just use it when you finish the day to kind of 'cool the engines'
The issue can easily become this: In the absence of marijuana your body may crave marijuana as it contains cannaboids blocking the emotional receptors in the brain. At this point usage may go up. This writer knows that usage and effects vary wildy from person to person.
As for my knowlege of this topic: it is extensive.
I will put aside the argument for physical illness - hell, if you're sick at home/bed: do what you have to do to make it. I just wanted to initially focus on anxiety and depression for functioning people, both conditions are extremely common in creative types such as writers and artists i.e. many many people on this board.
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