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    That was really good, and a pretty progressive sound for 1964. I really liked the horns, and it reminded me of The Beatles, and that's always good. 9/10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi View Post
    That was really good, and a pretty progressive sound for 1964. I really liked the horns, and it reminded me of The Beatles, and that's always good.

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    2/10. I used to love this kind of stuff when I was in high school, but the gravely screaming that sounds like the singer is gargling rocks and sharp metal objects to show how angry he is with the world got old after I hit a certain age. They sound like a ton of other similar bands from my youth and don't distinguish themselves in the guitar work, which might've bumped them a few points because I'm sucker for stand-out guitar riffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkshadow03 View Post
    2/10. I used to love this kind of stuff when I was in high school, but the gravely screaming that sounds like the singer is gargling rocks and sharp metal objects to show how angry he is with the world got old after I hit a certain age. They sound like a ton of other similar bands from my youth and don't distinguish themselves in the guitar work, which might've bumped them a few points because I'm sucker for stand-out guitar riffs.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW8Ul...eature=related
    Never been into the whole punk thing, but the name of the band is cool. 4/10.

    Some awesome riffage here. I love this band's intricacy, and the drums are amazing.

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    I think it would be good background music for an action scene on a TV show, and I can imagine people in a gym or locker room getting their adrenaline going to this track--if the vocals were removed, that is. Listening to the musicianship, these guys are cetainly quite athletic individually, and they kick *** as a band. But I don't buy the singer's singing at all. Of course some people love these sorts of vocals, and I'm thinking that many of these people probably understand what I'm saying here, they've probably heard or sensed the objection before: it sounds to me like a child trying to be awesome by making a monster voice.

    What I'd like to hear is a defense of this singing style. I haven't had too many discussions about it, but the couple of times that I have, no one has been able to really articulate to me the attraction. It's usually just fans talking about how different groups are awesome, and how they love this or that singer's intensity, how one guy's voice sounds destroyed, or whatever--and it's sometimes leavened with humor, like they know that such a singer sounds just like a bad cartoon hero show looks. But when the music is on, these adult fans do seem to enjoy the vocals without the ironic detachment that they would presumably have while watching He-Man. Again, I'm not asking rhetorically here: How can such singing be taken seriously?

    5/10

    This one (the original album's opening track) was a wonderful relief to me back in the days when one often had to simply pay $15 for the CD to see if you liked a singer you had heard good things about. Good for driving.
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    6/10. This reader likes your music alright but what's going on with those lyrics?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack of Hearts View Post
    One of my favourite singles. Quite unlike anything else I'd ever heard. 10/10


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    The vagaries of human experience have led me, for perhaps unworthy reasons, to stand determined not to give that man a 10 for anything, not even if he puts something that beautiful together.

    9/10

    How about this, then:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blqxQV3ak2Y


    No, no, no, that's an interesting one, but here's my submission for this phase:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDbMi...jHuxLIKs0qY1lG
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    It wasn't bad, billl, but it's just too safe for my taste, and I've never been a fan of solo performances unless they're doing something really interesting. 3.5/10.
    Quote Originally Posted by billl View Post
    I think it would be good background music for an action scene on a TV show, and I can imagine people in a gym or locker room getting their adrenaline going to this track--if the vocals were removed, that is. Listening to the musicianship, these guys are cetainly quite athletic individually, and they kick *** as a band. But I don't buy the singer's singing at all. Of course some people love these sorts of vocals, and I'm thinking that many of these people probably understand what I'm saying here, they've probably heard or sensed the objection before: it sounds to me like a child trying to be awesome by making a monster voice.

    What I'd like to hear is a defense of this singing style. I haven't had too many discussions about it, but the couple of times that I have, no one has been able to really articulate to me the attraction. It's usually just fans talking about how different groups are awesome, and how they love this or that singer's intensity, how one guy's voice sounds destroyed, or whatever--and it's sometimes leavened with humor, like they know that such a singer sounds just like a bad cartoon hero show looks. But when the music is on, these adult fans do seem to enjoy the vocals without the ironic detachment that they would presumably have while watching He-Man. Again, I'm not asking rhetorically here: How can such singing be taken seriously?
    It is just a matter of taste. And, in the case of heavy metal vocals (in a case such as this, they're always referred to as vocals, because it definitely is not singing), it is almost an acquired taste. Justin Beiber sounds absolutely horrible when I hear him--I wonder how anyone can tolerate such a din. I like vocals like that because I like them. I didn't like them the first time I heard them . . . one has to work their way up to gutturals (vocals such as what I linked there and before are made using the gut more than the actual vocal chords) like these. I started with Metallica, which is tolerable to most, then went on to early Pantera, then Slipknot, and worked my way up to vocals like those. It's really just a way to convey the aggressive sound the band wants, and to be able to do vocals like that good (and, trust me, there is a difference between good guttural vocals and bad, if only for the discerning ear), and also go on tour and do them 4 to 5 times a week for 45 minutes each of those times and not blow out your voice box is very, very hard to do, and takes just as much practice and training as any traditional singer.

    Still, I still don't like all heavy metal vocals, such as the screeching vocals found in most black metal, like this. I love the instrumentation, but can't get past the shrieking.

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    Aww, Ok, but I don't know--I think Natasha is being a little dangerous on a certain level in her own, confessional way.


    Anyhow, thanks for your defense of those vocals, Mutatis. I was thinking today in the car that maybe more tuneful vocals would just be a bad match in the ears of some fans. And so (you seem to be pointing out) some sort of art of yelling with, I guess, realms of nuance is built up. Pointing out the evolution of the style (across groups in time) is probably the best part of your post--it directly addresses the "acquired taste" angle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi View Post
    Still, I still don't like all heavy metal vocals, such as the screeching vocals found in most black metal, like this. I love the instrumentation, but can't get past the shrieking.
    Yes, I detect a hint of "excited Beavis" in his upper register. The playing was pretty good, but the changes/chords seemed a bit arbitrary now and then. But what do I know?

    3.4/10

    Let's slow it down, and well, it's another female--but let's see where a Danzig song might fit in all of this (if you don't want to listen to her interview, skip to 1:25 for the song, and by all means turn it up):

    http://www.avclub.com/articles/wye-o...-danzig,53066/
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    Don't like Dylan, he's dull. 3.34/10

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    The lyrics are below the video (just click "show more"), ten points if you can identify which classic horror writer wrote the last two lines in a short story. The rest of the lyrics are a letter that this author wrote to a friend. Literature trivia!
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    Not bad. 5/10. I had to look up the horror writer.


    A terrific song with a very clever and completely convincing lyric, of which Alan Sillitoe would have been proud.

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    Good song. I've not heard much - if any of the Arctic Monkeys. 7.5/10

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    Uh... that vid is all crotch shots of dudes, Paul...

    Soooo, 6/10 for the music at least. Didn't really like the words, though.





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    EDIT: Song starts at 1:15.
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    Nah. I get **** from my friends for disliking Cash but I still can't stand that folksy crap. 1/10

    This one's got a sweet bass solo at the end. You don't hear enough bass solos.
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