I often wonder what meat-providing creatures would say if they had the power of speech... maybe something like
Although I doubt it. If they could actually speak, I think they'd be able to go further as well.
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This thing is adorable!!I will second that
vegans don't eat hunny? I did not know that. Learn something new everyday. I wonder if that makes Vegans have worse allergies? I know I take bee caps, and eat local honey to help my allergies. I have not heard the arguments for not eating honey- I shall go google that
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Last year I had relatives who freaked out because I didn't make a turkey for the Thanksgiving dinner they all asked me to host. Everyone was well informed ahead of time, but they still sulked and whined until they tasted the marinated Tempeh I made. They said it went perfectly with the mashed potatoes and stuffing and cranberry sauce (the stuffing was vegan). I made three desserts and everything else (sans meat) that goes along with such a feast.
This year several of my friends and family members had a choice between a meat or veggie holiday, and they opted to join me at my place. Their minds changed. I know sometimes people get grumpy over things that are new and different for them, but give 'em a chance to adjust and be nice (whether they choose to go meatless or not). Some people will always be jerks, but most people are cool.
what is marinated Tempeh?
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Tempeh is a fantastic meat substitute and an excellent source of protein. I prefer it to tofu in taste and in texture. It's outstanding sliced thin and grilled. Like most meats and meat-like things, it tastes best when it's well seasoned. I marinate mine in red wine and balsalmic vinegar with some brown sugar and other spices; garlic, onion, chili powder, etc. It's excellent for replacing steak or chicken breast. I like it with teriyaki or barbecue sauces as well. Recently I used it for Philly cheese"steak" sandwiches. Big hit with my meat eating pals. Some vegetarians and vegans I know are disturbed by how much it tastes like the real thing.
I have never heard of this tempeh but it sounds good, I wonder if it can be found on the ice...
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To me, holidays are all about the sweets and desserts anyway, which means that I wouldn't even notice if someone was a vegetarian. There aren't a lot of desserts that feature meat. I like the drinks too, which means again no meat concerns.
I think it's because eating birds (turkeys, roast geese, ect.) just grosses me out. Birds are weird and I don't eat them, the meat is the wrong color and has a strange texture. I like things with four legs, cows/moose/deer ect, and no one ever prepares roast beef or moose for Christmas. When I'm established enough to host my own Christmas dinner, I think I'll serve something that had hoofs.
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here on the ice the most common Christmas dinner is pig and lamb, it is only recently that people here change things and have some bird probably 65-70% still eat animals on four here...
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I heard hunny is the healthiest sweetener, especially for people undergoing a dietary plan, like an obesity treatment for example. Some doctors say it should be privileged over artificial sweeteners, and much more over sugar. Besides, if bears risk their noses for it, then it must be healthy, I thinkvegans don't eat hunny? I did not know that. Learn something new everyday. I wonder if that makes Vegans have worse allergies? I know I take bee caps, and eat local honey to help my allergies. I have not heard the arguments for not eating honey- I shall go google that
Sounds like
All of this is very true.(...) sometimes people get grumpy over things that are new and different for them, but give 'em a chance to adjust and be nice (whether they choose to go meatless or not). Some people will always be jerks, but most people are cool.
Thank you, Max.
Helga, the tempeh I get is by Lightlife. There are other brands too. I get the plain and season it how I want, but it comes in other flavor varieties as well. I hope you will get a chance to try it one day. How interesting to live on ice in the sea!
I really like this discussion with Peter Singer and Richard Dawkins about eating animals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYYNY2oKVWU
There is hope, but not for us.
That is fantastic, Gregory. I've never heard Peter Singer in discussion before. He's like a smarter man version of me. Thank you for sharing this video!
I think Wikipedia calls those who reject the use of all animal products (including leather, silk and wool for clothing) ethical vegans. And, yes, technically even for a dietary vegan, honey is an animal product.
I actually like the idea of ethical veganism, at least about things like fur and leather, but I don't adhere to it strictly.
And, Max, I've always understood honey to be the best sweetener and have used it a lot for baking. But recently a friend was telling me about a long study she'd read apparently proving that honey is really not superior to other sugars - just more expensive.
At least you can always put honey in your eyes to cure cataracts.
Honey and brown sugar make the best lip exfoliator too! Mix the two, rub it on your lips, rinse it off. Nice, soft, full, sweet lips.
It really is expensive, every year a little more. Are you sure about the cataracts? You know, scientists are forever finding that other scientists' findings were wrongAnd, Max, I've always understood honey to be the best sweetener and have used it a lot for baking. But recently a friend was telling me about a long study she'd read apparently proving that honey is really not superior to other sugars - just more expensive.
At least you can always put honey in your eyes to cure cataracts.
Like yours, I suppose
Has anyone thought about the footwear and clothing industries? For example, do you think there is an alternative to leather that might be as resistant as it is for shoemaking?
Then I was thinking about the jet set whores wearing the furs and skins of murdered beavers, crocodiles, seals and so on. I'm aware that many would claim that this has been drastically changing over the years because of the high fear of Greenpeace boycotts and social reproval, but is it really the case?
Would this be off-topic?
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