God said, "It is not good for man to be alone."Originally Posted by Theunderground
God said, "It is not good for man to be alone."
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
More than that, please. I wouldn't want to make you static in any respect.
hehe!! Excuse me Bien but which God, whose God is the question!!
Could you please define Values??? Values seem to differ from place to place, culture to culture, society to society???
You do seem quite reasonable to me!!
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When asked how World War III would be fought, Einstein replied that he didn't know. But he knew how World War IV would be fought: With sticks and stones.
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Agree with that. So obviously you don't need me to define them if you know what you are saying.
Well, I thought you were perhaps referring to some values not known to me yet??
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When asked how World War III would be fought, Einstein replied that he didn't know. But he knew how World War IV would be fought: With sticks and stones.
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Well, yeah - but at the time he was talking not about the species - Man - but about the gender - guys. And his solution was to make woman 'as a helper'. Which, from a post-feminist point of view, was a bit suspect. And from a chauvinist point of view was totally counterproductive.
So either way, like many of God's homilistic one-liners, that one's not quite as definitive as it might at first appear.
Last edited by MarkBastable; 10-10-2011 at 03:56 PM.
I like God's reaction to Einstein. When the latter forbade God to play die, gambling increased 100% in Atlantic City.
Since I was quoting the Bible, that would apply to Jehovah. However, I'm uncertain how the Muslim's view the Old Testament passages in reference to the Creator and/or the creation account. Can you enlighten me concerning your perspective?hehe!! Excuse me Bien but which God, whose God is the question!!
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
Thanks, Bien. Most of the things listed in the Old Testament coincide with Islamic teachings.....especially Muslim belief is much closer to the Jews than Christians. Moral values etc contained in the OT form a considerable part of
Muslim teachings.....and are infact incorporated in the Quran. FYI to be a Muslim it is only necessary to believe in the Unity of God and Muhammad His last Messenger, other imperatives are belief in the angels, the day of judgement, all the holy Scriptures and all the Prophets earlier to the advent of Islam.
As for moral values those are precisely mentioned in the Quran. I would not like to refer to Traditions (said to be sayings of Prophet Muhammad) as the same are disputed among the Muslims themselves and tend to confuse.
Not restricted to religion, the nature of values differs from place to place, people to people due to socio-cultural factors. Even in the USA you will note this variation from state to state...and infact some ''values' have been incorporated in the Law.
Islam, as far as I know, came to change the then ''values' prevailing among the Arabian land (and their culture) . Of such 'values' you can
find good mention in many authentic history books by the western writers themselves. History of the Saracens by Amir Ali or works of Pickhall and Prof Arberry etc (perhaps Gibbon too) should be enough to elucidate further on the state of affairs (ie practices and values) prevailing among the ''pagan'' Arabs and elsewhere (the Huns and the Mongols etc).
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When asked how World War III would be fought, Einstein replied that he didn't know. But he knew how World War IV would be fought: With sticks and stones.
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Yeah, that was how it seemed when she was talking about it in class one time but she wasn't allowed to go into detail.
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"Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal."
-Pi
so my dear friend u r rejecting everything like religion n sceinces as well.. you are concluding infact conlcluded about above and asking me not to conclude anything? strange suggestion lolzz
AOA mahzr! i couldnt understand how jews's teachings close with islam ? and not christianity ?
Last edited by usman.khawar; 10-25-2011 at 05:47 AM.
In fact I never conclude. God's idea we have is derived from books religions or mythologies or as we have heard from elders. suppose you were never told about God or if you were growing in an isolated area wherein you never hear about God or do not read books on God I do not think you would have any idea about God. The idea of God is invented and with that said however I am not denying the existence of God nor supporting and in fact I want to be indifferent.
I read books on God and I have read plenty of books on it. Buddhism is somewhat close to Nihilism and it is somewhat scientific too and therefore even Bertrand Russel and Einstein too were somewhat supportive of Buddhism.
I'm sold.
Was my post deleted in which I called the OP an idiot, or some such insult? If so, it's pretty funny . . . since I'm the OP.
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Reference to Jews was in context of Old Testament. Yes, Islam also contains
several good points of Christianity as well as other holy Scriptures, such as Talmud and Torah, etc. But since the holy Quran only lives on with its ORIGINAL context for more than 1400 years therefore reliance on the authenticity of other edited or rewritten Scriptures by human hands becomes suspicious and unauthentic.
good joke! like a clown getting bashed in circus!!
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When asked how World War III would be fought, Einstein replied that he didn't know. But he knew how World War IV would be fought: With sticks and stones.
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